From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #207 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 14 1999 Volume 08 : Number 207 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tinkling. [Capuchin ] Re: A sordid stuff [Capuchin ] Re: The glass flesh SHOULD taste! [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Recidivism [Aaron Mandel ] Re: RH tour dates/US [Debora K ] Re: Tinkling. [amadain ] Re: Storefront Orlando! [HSatterfld@aol.com] Re: blegvad + RNRNRNRN [Capitalism Blows ] Re: A sordid stuff [Capitalism Blows ] Re: The glass flesh taste test! [Bayard ] RE: He's dead, Jim! [amadain ] Waits [Joel Mullins ] Re: Waits [Ethyl Ketone ] He's ded, Jim! [Capuchin ] Re: The glass flesh taste test! [Christopher Gross ] Re: Bad Love, etc. [Ethyl Ketone ] by the way... [Eb ] r.i.p. [Capitalism Blows ] motor blegvad motor ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: by the way... [Joel Mullins ] Re: motor boys motor ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Bad Love, etc. [amadain ] Re: motor boys motor [dmw ] Re: Motor boys motor [Chris Franz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:52:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Tinkling. On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, Eb wrote: > I just saw the Tom Waits/Storytellers special...very good, but a mild > letdown for me. I wanted more musicians onstage making oogly noise, and a > range of material beyond ballads. I thought he came off a bit listless. > Meanwhile, I was once again baffled by his bizarre stiff-fingered piano > technique...jeez, the first thing you hear when you learn piano is "Keep > your fingers curled!" Heh. Ehh, he probably never had any lessons anyway.... Horowitz, Chico Marx and my old high school/college chum Ryan were all great players in the stiff-fingers school. Of the three, I'm only sure that Ryan had lessons and Chico didn't. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: A sordid stuff On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Christopher Gross wrote: > > the best character, martin silenus, reminds me of capuchin. > A cheap trick to get Capuchin to read it! So the question is this: Is the character much like Capuchin or is this just a cheap trick to get Capuchin to read it? I'm pretty sure Bayard left the middle book at my place. I'll eventually get around to cleaning up and see if it's there. > Eddie, is that the "does your mom know you're bald?" kid washing dishes > with Viv and Capuchin? Just curious. Yes, it IS! And this kid kicks ass. Vivien and I fell madly in love with him. I offered him my yo-yo and he turned it down (but he had a heck of a time playing with it). I promised him a yellow one when I next see him. Let's see... what DID he say when we were there? I can't remember much other than this exchange: eddie: You're missing some teeth. I didn't know you were missing teeth. kid-whose-name-I-always-forget: Yeah. Baby teeth. Duh! Never having children because I know I can't do the job THAT well... J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:09:14 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: The glass flesh SHOULD taste! Perhaps we should reconsider this, but I also have a really good idea. As Bayard and few others have been putting in most of the work on this to date, they have been making all the good and bad decisions. After GFII, all of this pleasure can be shared by he who is not crabby and others who want to do that. I think it's a great idea, just as I think the beauty of sharing the spotlight of the critical focus of others is a joy to be had forever. Yes, I think the world of Cappuchin, and would love for him to take over the project in the future. It's a win-win. Happies, - -Markg Please respond to Capuchin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:27:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Recidivism On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Capuchin wrote: > If you hadn't said something, I would have. > > So a Jaz disk holds ten Zips and is a hard disk rather than a floppy (but > removable media, nonetheless). wow, i'm a lunkhead. there was a period of time when everyone i know was trying to decide between Zip and Jaz, and i guess i formed my erroneous impression then. what i get for answering questions about hardware. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:20:19 -0700 From: Debora K Subject: Re: RH tour dates/US On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Capuchin writes: > >On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 duplanet@global2000.net wrote: >> ROBYN HITCHCOCK >> Dates w/ Flaming Lips / Sebadoh >> "Music Against Brain Degeneration" Tour >> 7/23/99 Seatle, WA Showbox >> 7/24/99 Seattle, WA Showbox >> 7/25/99 Portland, OR Roseland Theater > >I couldn't have asked for a better setup. > >I say we caravan to Seattle after work on Friday, see the show. Do >the >Seattle thing all day Saturday, see the show. Drive to P-town the >next >day, see the show! > >Who's with me! (Hopefully somebody with a car.) > >Supposing this monkey could take half a day off work and take the >train... >J. Once again, you're more than invited to stay with the Deboras'. We live in Ballard, and will probably have to scrub up the mice to make them look good for ya. We have pets, ya know. I'm sure we'll drive down to see the Portland show as well. I got a big "drummer" van so I'm sure you'd fit. Careful of that damn yo-yo. This is great news. I'll be cafeful not to say "whee", but I'll give it a good "Woo-Hoo". Vince ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:43:11 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Tinkling. >Horowitz, Chico Marx and my old high school/college chum Ryan were all >great players in the stiff-fingers school. Of the three, I'm only sure >that Ryan had lessons and Chico didn't. Add Thelonious Monk and Glenn Gould. I always had trouble with it. My teacher was always bugging me about it. One day I said- "Glenn Gould plays flat-fingered". She responded that I was not Glenn Gould, and that if I got to be that good a pianist, I could do anything I pleased. What she should have 'splained to me, I think, is that there's a reason for the curved hands thing- people who have hugemongous hands can do the flat-fingered thing OK, but someone with tiny hands like mine needs all the reach and flexibility they can muster. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:45:45 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: Storefront Orlando! mrrunion@palmnet.net exclaimed: >(p.s. Geek alert!...any Topps SW card traders here on this list?) Well, I have the rare unintentionally x-rated C3PO card... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:50:46 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Re: blegvad + RNRNRNRN ( show us the picture of allen's ass! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:51:40 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Re: A sordid stuff *mama*, actually. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: The glass flesh taste test! > Why aren't we doing that anymore? Except now we can just have a website > of MP3s and the occassionally treed tape of material when enough new stuff > accumulates? Then we can make a real CD and someone can take a financial > bath on a nice pretty version at some later date. > > That's what I say we do. It's the smartest. No deadlines, no signing up > for tracks, no hassles. Keep it fun and keep it open. hiya Cap'n, I'm afraid if I didn't hassle people and give them deadlines, I'd get fewer great songs. Some of the best tracks have been the longest time coming. Rosso had a hellacious time putting his song together - cellos falling apart, etc - but I emailed him some encouragement and reminders and the finished song is sublime. In the past 3 days I have gotten an instrumental "Glass" and a funky klesmer "Somewhere apart"* - I've been corresponding with the musicians for years trying to get them on board b/c I really like their original work. I'm not sure people would be as likely to contribute if their work was just going onto a maxell cassette, or even a treed CDR. I wouldn't. I'd also feel bad asking people to then pay for something they had already, if I wanted to do a real CD later. And I'd be more likely to lose money on something everyone already had on their hard drive, I think. It was fun when it was simpler, yah. But I think the world of the talent and personality of the musicians on the list, and I think they deserve to have their work heard as professionally as possible. You're gonna love the finished project. Mark and Donne are doing the layout and artwork again, and you know they did amazing things the first time. We're going with Oasis to do the duplication, and anyone who has Dolph's "New Bird Rise" knows what a good job they do. And the songs - oh, my g-d, the songs! When you put this new disc in, you're in for a treat. I've got some recently that no-one else has heard yet. I'm muy impressed. Besides, If I don't get this done soon there's a guy in Montreal and a guy in Ohio who're gonna lynch me. After this one is done, you and/or I can just post mp3's, that's fine by me. But this one's the biggie. =b ps. It wasn't a trick, I thought of you all the time I was reading those books. Apparently Chris disagrees; I think the Quail disagreed too. This character is just so charmingly crabby...! he drinks wine, though, and is probably less healthy than you in other ways too. It wasn't a trick leaving the second book there, either. Um, hey can I get that back? It's Chris'.. I should have had you bring it to nyc... for that matter I should have had Chris bring you back _geek love_... *both great & fun, and also I received a second (full-band) "surgery"! most impressive! I hope to have mp3 clips up *sometime*, sooner as opposed to later... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:58:31 -0600 From: amadain Subject: RE: He's dead, Jim! >some sub-Saturday AM cartoon silliness. Astoundingly poor judgment. >Or is it "judgement"? Astoundingly bad spelling. No, just American spelling. Whether or not that means astoundingly bad is left as an exercise for the reader. Judgement is one of those words that got "improved" by Webster, who was into removing extraneous letters. Personally I think that in this case it was rather silly, as "judge" is the word and "ment" the suffix, hence the e is not extraneous at all. This isn't the same thing at all as removing the "u" from "colour" to my way of thinking. I used to get in debates with teachers every time that was on a spelling test, because I insisted that it was more logical to spell it with an e. This was one of those weird episodes of stubbornness that this otherwise well-behaved student displayed. Another concerned the proper cursive "Q", which I thought looked stupid and refused to write. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:18:22 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Waits Eb wrote: > I just saw the Tom Waits/Storytellers special...very good, but a mild > letdown for me. I wanted more musicians onstage making oogly noise, and a > range of material beyond ballads. I thought he came off a bit listless. > Meanwhile, I was once again baffled by his bizarre stiff-fingered piano > technique...jeez, the first thing you hear when you learn piano is "Keep > your fingers curled!" Heh. Ehh, he probably never had any lessons anyway.... I also saw the Tom Waits Storytellers. I was surprisingly impressed. I've never really liked Tom Waits. But I've never really given him a chance. His voice drove me crazy the first time I heard it and I've haven't bothered with him since. But watching Storytellers, I saw how much soul he puts into his singing. I really started to like it. And I can't believe he wrote 'Ol '55. That's always been my favorite Eagles song. I never knew Waits wrote it. Anyway, I really enjoyed the Storytellers and am now thinking that I should give Waits a chance. Maybe I'll pick up a CD sometime. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:56 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: Waits At 2.18 PM -0700 6/14/99, Joel Mullins wrote: >I also saw the Tom Waits Storytellers. I was surprisingly impressed. >I've never really liked Tom Waits. But I've never really given him a >chance. His voice drove me crazy the first time I heard it and I've >haven't bothered with him since. But watching Storytellers, I saw how >much soul he puts into his singing. I really started to like it. And I >can't believe he wrote 'Ol '55. All the folks I know who been into Waits since Swordfish Trombone or later are astounded when I dig up Heart of Saturday Night, Blue Valentine, Heartattack and Vine, Closing Time, Nighthawks... all the early stuff. I started catching him at dive bars in LA just as HOSN came out and I still love his ballad stuff best. Well, I like all of it, esp. Franks Wild Years and Bone Machine, but that old stuff from "Ol 55 to Romeo is Bleeding to Jersey Girl (yes, he wrote Jersey Girl) still catches me. His rendition of Big Joe and Phantom 309 is fabulous. Be Seeing You, - - carrie, whose house is almost ready to sell, finally "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com carrieg@blueplanetsoftware.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:20:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: He's ded, Jim! On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, amadain wrote: > Judgement is one of those words that got "improved" by Webster, who was > into removing extraneous letters. Personally I think that in this case it > was rather silly, as "judge" is the word and "ment" the suffix, hence the e > is not extraneous at all. This isn't the same thing at all as removing the > "u" from "colour" to my way of thinking. I used to get in debates with > teachers every time that was on a spelling test, because I insisted that it > was more logical to spell it with an e. See, I would disagree. Oftentimes a root word's ending will be altered to accomodate a suffix. I think judgment and silliness and business are completely logical and sensible (or should that be senseible, Susan?). It would be a little better, I suppose, if it were consistent, but that's too much to ask. If it we wanted consistent spelling, we'd eliminate the letters i and c and x altogether and make a ch and sh letter and probably do a little more tweaking. My friend Nathan worked out a great phonetic alphabet once. It was neat. He had a single accent mark that made consonant either vocalized or not and he pared down the vowels and then added enough to remove that stupid long-or-short-sound nonsense (or is that nonesense?). J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:50:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: The glass flesh taste test! On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Bayard wrote: > ps. It wasn't a trick, I thought of you all the time I was reading those > books. Apparently Chris disagrees; I think the Quail disagreed too. This > character is just so charmingly crabby...! Yeah, but Martin Silenus is crabby in person. Capuchin is (based on my brief experience) pleasantly friendly in person and only crabby on the Feg list. Silenus also dislikes computers and is never once shown even touching a yoyo. > It wasn't a trick leaving the second book there, either. Um, hey can I > get that back? It's Chris'.. Hey! Just for that, I'm going to keep your Mermaid Avenue for *another* four months. - --Chris (who combines the social skills of Het Masteen, the even temper of Brawne Lamia and the roguish good looks of the Bikura) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:23:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Bad Love, etc. >Carrie: >I started catching [Waits] at dive bars in LA just as HOSN came out Wow, you rock! LJ: >Yes, it's true-- this album is AWESOME. I, too, am ranking it right up >there with "Apple Venus" and "Mule Variations". What a wonderful world it >is when my current Top Three list matches Eb's!!! (see goddamnit, I have >bonafide good taste) Wow, you rock! >The real highlight of this album is the song "Shame" which is RN at his >swaggering best-- lampooning rich, powerful, and oversexed pathetic old men: There are two songs -- "Shame" and "I'm Dead (But I Don't Know It)" -- in which Randy employs a neat conceptual trick with choral vocals: the backing singers sort of "scold" him and provide the voice of reason. Works beautifully. My other favorites are probably "My Country" and "the song about Karl Marx." Susan: >What she should have 'splained to me, I think, is that there's a reason for >the curved hands thing- people who have hugemongous hands can do the >flat-fingered thing OK, but someone with tiny hands like mine needs all the >reach and flexibility they can muster. Well, I got hugemongous hands, and I don't play that way.... Incidentally, I recently saw a film called "The Mephisto Waltz," in which (believe it or not) Alan Alda became satanically possessed by the spirit of a dead concert pianist. There was one scene in which the soon-to-be-dead pianist tested Alda's own piano abilities by asking "Can you stretch a tenth?" I was thinking, "Ha! I can stretch an eleventh!" ;) By the way, didn't Chico use "flat fingers" mostly for comic effect, rather than a natural style? Godwin: >> Speaking of "golden throats," I found out yesterday that there's a new Mrs. >> Miller compilation on Capitol! Whoa! I gotta get me one of those! > >Hey, that really is 60s bad taste! While we're in the area, you haven't >got a spare copy of 'My son, the nut' by Allan Sherman's mother, have you? Not only that, but I have spare copies of "My Son, the Celebrity" and "My Son, the Folksinger" as well. No kidding. :) >Now How Much Would You Pay? I *used* to have that disc. It was an A&M promotional sampler CD that was being given away free at record stores. Nothing really worth having. The disc packaging is totally generic.... And what the hell is St. John's Wort, anyway? And how come Kirstie Alley wears long dark coats to cover up her extra pounds, and Calista Flockhart wears long dark coats to cover up her *lack* of pounds? And when will that bastard Mike finish burning my hard-drive CD? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:21:40 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: Bad Love, etc. At 3.23 PM -0700 6/14/99, Eb wrote: >>I started catching [Waits] at dive bars in LA just as HOSN came out > >Wow, you rock! Well, more than once he was too drunk to stand so he'd sit on the steps of the stage and smoke until he sobered a little. And once I remember he was hanging on to the mic stand and took a swig off a can of beer and then put it in his pocket where it sorta dribbled it's way down to the floor after awhile. That was in SB I think. But hey, it's like seeing Shane McGowen banging the micstand with a penny whistle while guzzling from a quart of, well, whisky I'm guessing. You take these little pecadillos with the brilliance behind them and hope they grow up a little, like Waits did. Speaking of the Pogues, did anyone ever see the tour when McGowen collapsed or was arrested or something and Joe Strummer ended up touring with them instead? Awesome show. >Not only that, but I have spare copies of "My Son, the Celebrity" and "My >Son, the Folksinger" as well. No kidding. :) Wow, you rock! Be Seeing You, - - c "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com carrieg@blueplanetsoftware.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:14:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: by the way... I'll be wearing the ceremonial yellow-striped shirt to Tom Waits tonight, and none of you can stop me. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:58:40 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: r.i.p. eqbal ahmad. i just learned, quite by accident, that he died last month. don't know how i missed it, but this is just crushing news. i'd known he was ill, but didn't know with what, and had no inkling of the gravity of the situation. as a scholar and a human being, i held him in every bit as high esteem as chomsky. and he was a more eloquent speaker than chomsky (or anyone else i have ever heard speak, for that matter). as a matter of fact, i was just listening to an interview with him on the way here to the library. shocking, terrible, devastating. talk about a pisser. this is about the worst i've ever felt, ever. here's one article about his passing: , and here's another, by edward said: . additionally, if anybody would like copies of some of his extraordinary interviews and speeches, check out: . i especially recomment "the amherst interviews", easily the most amazing interview i've ever heard. in sadness. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:47:39 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: motor blegvad motor Just been to see big Pete B. with guest appearances from Syd Straw, Eddi Reader and Loudon Wainwright XXXVVVIII. Very enjoyable indeed. Will report more fully when less banjaxed. Only to say Motor Boys Motor went on to become the transcendentally brilliant Screaming Blue Messiahs. Again I'll be a little more coherent about that evolution some other time. Tomorrow for example. The Embassy Rooms, Tottenham Crt Rd are fucking weird. There's * British* wrestling there soon. Now that's a debate to be had. jmbc. np. Flock wallpaper and purple curtains. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:21:01 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: He's ded, Jim! >See, I would disagree. Oftentimes a root word's ending will be altered to >accomodate a suffix. I think judgment and silliness and business are >completely logical and sensible (or should that be senseible, Susan?). Well, I'm not so sure they are, actually. They're different situations. The "y" is not silent as the "e" of judge and sense is. And it isn't dropped, it's replaced with another vowel, and it's replaced with "i" because "y" can't go before a consonant (well, it could at one time obviously, which is why we still have the names like "Robyn" and "Rhys" but it's an archaism). And with sensible, the "e" goes missing because the suffix starts with i, and i always goes before e "except after c and when sounding like a as in neighbor and weigh". There isn't any pronounciation or spelling rule concerning a silent "e" before an "m" that I am aware of personally. In any case, all of these were standardized long before Webster decided to fiddle around with the language, which is not the case with "judgment". That is a Webster creation, as is the more justified (IMO) "color". Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:16:04 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: by the way... Eb wrote: > > I'll be wearing the ceremonial yellow-striped shirt to Tom Waits tonight, > and none of you can stop me. Is it yellow stripes on black? If so, I'm gonna start calling you Sting. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:32:56 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: motor boys motor >> track list? And who, pray, are rock music quartet Motor Boys Motor? Motor Boys Motor became somebody else...Screaming Blue Messiahs, I think I'm pretty sure whoever it was had a song on "Don't Let The Hope Close Down." - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:46:49 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Bad Love, etc. >>Carrie: >>I started catching [Waits] at dive bars in LA just as HOSN came out > >Wow, you rock! What I want to know is- who caught him opening for Zappa? Anyone? If so, I'm dying to hear about it. >Well, I got hugemongous hands, and I don't play that way.... I didn't mean that if you had big hands, you ought to. Gads no! I simply meant that it's easier to get away with if your natural reach is already pretty large. >Incidentally, I recently saw a film called "The Mephisto Waltz," in which >(believe it or not) Alan Alda became satanically possessed by the spirit of >a dead concert pianist. I believe it because I have seen it. You know, "Alan Alda" and "uncontrollable passion" are just really not things that go together well. Sort of like "Richard Dreyfuss" and "schizophrenic mob boss" (did anyone else see that mess of a film "Mad Dog Time"?). Anyhow..... "Mephisto Waltz" is a screamingly funny film. There is a chapter on it in the very entertaining "Bad Movies We Love", which an old roommate of mine had and I read cover to cover many times. I'm still always on the lookout for some of the movies listed in there. >And what the hell is St. John's Wort, anyway? It's an herb that is reputed to help with milder cases of depression. Actually, clinical trials suggest that it actually is somewhat effective. But I don't know that much about it. I just wanted to answer that because it was the only question among the four that I had any kind of good answer for. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: motor boys motor On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Russ Reynolds wrote: > > >> track list? And who, pray, are rock music quartet Motor Boys Motor? > > Motor Boys Motor became somebody else...Screaming Blue Messiahs, I think > I'm pretty sure whoever it was had a song on "Don't Let The Hope Close > Down." > > -rUss ...and that's bill carter of motor boys moter and screaming blue messiahs layin' down all the skronky guitar on "eaten by her own dinner"... - -- d. n.p. moe tucker _oh no, they're recording this show_ - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:25:50 -0700 From: Chris Franz Subject: Re: Motor boys motor Michael R Godwin wrote: > One last item from bibliographical search. Usual questions - is this the > standard version of '52 Stations'? Does anyone know anything more about > this record? Why does 'Little boy and fat man' appear twice on the > track list? And who, pray, are rock music quartet Motor Boys Motor? Motor Boys Motor were Tony Moon, Bill Carter, Chris Thompson, and John Kingham. The listing you posted apparently referred to their one self-titled album (cat # ALB-111), which came with a free 4-track square flexi-disc. Apparently the albums from which each of the four tracks came from (the albums all have consecutive catalog numbers) all were shipped with this free flexi. "Little Boy & Fat Man" was the MBM track which appeared on the flexi, and "52 Stations" (the Groovy Decay version) was Robyn's track. "Motor Boys Motor" was almost a great album; I have the German CD reissue which came out a couple of years ago and still play it pretty frequently. The Screaming Blue Messiahs were just awesome. If you ever get a chance, buy their posthumous "Live At The BBC" album on Windsong; it's incredible. Actually, I'd recommend pretty much any of their material, except their very disappointing final album "Totally Religious." BTW, I've heard a somewhat authoritative rumor that the SBM are considering getting back together. In any case, just to fill out the history here, Bill, Chris, and John backed up Robyn on "Eaten By Her Own Dinner," Tony Moon ended up producing or co-producing most of Robyn's 80's videos (including "The Man With The Lightbulb Head"... did you notice that Lightbulb Head on Fegmania! featured John Kingham and not the Egyptians?) And, of course, Bill and Chris joined up with drummer Kenny Harris to form the Screaming Blue Messiahs. Still an all-time favorite of mine. - - Chris http://www.chatnoir.demon.co.uk/sbmhistory.html ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #207 *******************************