From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #185 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, May 20 1999 Volume 08 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ??? [Bayard ] *my* open letter to eb ["Capitalism Blows" ] Unpublished Shel Silverstein Books [Tom Clark ] Anyone got any Radiohead shows to trade? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] pavement-related follow-up [Ken Sabatini ] Ebbish follie [Natalie Jacobs ] womadelaide and other website additions [dlang ] tickets, not for Star Wars (but still 0%RH) [HSatterfld@aol.com] SPOCK! [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] new Robyn tour dates. [dlang ] Homer Lounge review [Richard Plumb at NTAC ] Re: Incidentally [Richard Plumb at NTAC ] film [Eleanore Adams ] Re: film ["chad leahy" ] Terrastock ["Ghost Surfer" ] Re: tickets, not for Star Wars (now 100% S-K) [MARKEEFE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: ??? On Tue, 18 May 1999, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > Tickets to what???? > > Ride. I thought they broke up? I am seeing the film today. A bargain at 1/10 the cost of Tom Waits tix! hee hee... np: man or astroman, _made from technitium_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:50:06 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: *my* open letter to eb commander lang, you have your assignment!! sounds like, then, that there will be live shows in the u.s. come fall. cool enough. can we assume this is the one we've (at least, i've) been calling Nobody Loves You (But Jesus And Me)? hey, anybody wanna tape this for me? got some cool robyn vids to trade... ha! this was great! i'll tell you, whoever wrote this has listened to a *lot* of chomsky. a very competent forgery, i must say. http://leb.net/iac/ http://www.beograd.com Who gets the benefit of this war? The bondseekers, the capitalists, the railroads will profit by this war. The new bonds give the basis for new banks and their power is prolonged. The privileged classes all benefit by this war. It takes the attention off economic issues and perpetuates the unjust system they have put upon us. Politicians profit by the war. It buries the issues they dare not meet. What do the people get out of this war? The fighting and the taxes. What is the United States doing in this war in the first place? True, Spain is oppressing Cuba. But so is England oppressing Egypt, Ireland and India. France is oppressing Siam and Madagascar. Turkey is oppressing Armenia. Should we then take up arms against all the oppressors of the world? We would most likely end by becoming oppressors ourselves. The Spaniards and Cubans were bushwhacking one another and killing from three to five men at a battle. We have gone down there and killed more in three months than they have killed in 13 years. If they were starving before the war, who will feed them after the war? What are we going to get out of this war as a nation? Endless troubles, complications, expense. Republics can not go into the conquering business and remain republics. Militarism leads to military domination, to military despotism. Imperialism smoothes the way for the emperor. --Tom Watson, Governor of Georgia, 1898 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:12:51 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Unpublished Shel Silverstein Books Thiis week's Onion touches on a subject we've been discussing lately: http://www.theonion.com/ Personal fave: 4. Maurice Sendak Is A Goddamned Show-Off Prick. i just report 'em, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:18:36 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Anyone got any Radiohead shows to trade? If anyone out there has any good recordings of an "OK Computer"-era Radiohead shows that they'd like to trade for a CD-R of a Robyn show or two (or maybe something else . . . although I don't have a *whole* lot else), let me know. My preference would be for CD-R, but DAT would be great, and tape would be okay, too, as long as the sound was good -- soundboard preferred; I don't have any Radiohead shows, so I'd like to get a real good one. Thanks! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Sabatini Subject: pavement-related follow-up Regarding the forthcoming Pavement disc, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >> Surprise: the album doesn't suck. and: >> At least they've mostly given up their stupid faux-slacker shtick. Added Aaron: >i keep reading about how Pavement and Beck are "slacker" performers. i >don't know if this is really how you're using the term, but the >implication usually seems to be that they could play music 'right' if >only they'd apply themselves, and that they are from California. it's >certainly not that the music's laconic (it is sometimes, but so is >most of what's on the radio) or that the lyrics praise ennui. I won't comment on the Beck portion of this, but with Pavement I agree that it's curious to me how often "slacker" is used to describe the band. If you've seen them live in the past few years, you'd have to agree that they are very capable musicians as far as the pop/rock genre goes. When I saw them on their last tour they were incredibly tight and well-rehearsed, while simultaneously making it look like they were just foolin' around. S. Malkmus may come close to being too cool for his own good, but he pulls it off in my book--he really doesn't take himself that seriously. Its one of those descriptions that you're just *supposed* to use, I guess. Now what "faux-slacker" is meant to imply . . . ? That they *want* to be slackers but don't cut it? I guess its just an easy way to criticize them if you don't like their sound. Natalie: >It's more that they act as if they don't give a shit even though they do- >their music lacks passion, and they refuse to rock out even though they're >capable of it, as if it's beneath them. Must keep up that indie-rock >"ironic" stance, y'know... It sounds like their level of coolness and irony are threatening to you. And, by inference, if a band is capable of "rocking out" then they have a responsibility to do so? :) What's more, there are plenty of rockin' Pavement songs out there--it seems that the band just prefers to rock with a bit of style and restraint. The frequent equating of "indie rock" to "ironic" reflects a very narrow conception of the category. xo, SiR ("sincerity in rock") Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:52:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Ebbish follie $72.25 for a concert ticket?? Heck, now I don't feel so dumb for buying Star Wars action figures... :) n. (but could Tom Waits kick Ewan McGregor's ass in a fair fight?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:38:30 +0930 From: dlang Subject: womadelaide and other website additions Hi folks, you may be interested in viewing the Womadelaide 99 site that I've just published at http://users.senet.com.au/~tortoise/index.html this has around 90 photos of the festival concerning artists like Baaba Maal, , Trilok Gurto, Kila, Jackie Leven , Tibetan artists, Lo Jo , Phil Manzanera, Liam O'Flynn aboriginal groups , the site itself and a list of all known tapes and radio broadcasts of the festival from 1992 to date. There's a new interview with Frank Zappa on the bath web site, Waterson Carthy pages added recently as well as many new setlists for the Bath festival. I will soon publish about 20 pages about the windsor free festival from 1974 and I'm looking for recollections of that fest, so if you were there , mail me your thoughts. dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:33:09 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: tickets, not for Star Wars (but still 0%RH) If any DC feg has extry tickets for Sleater-Kinney at the Black Cat I'd like to hear about them...although I would really have preferred to see Helium as the opener... Although if someone can tell me how to pronounce Sleater-Kinney that would be an acceptable alternative. And I'm just happy that idjit who player Doctor Who on FOX didn't get the job. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 03:16:00 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: SPOCK! On Wed, 19 May 1999 12:52:54 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >PS - combining comedy and science fiction, has anyone else ever noticed >that the only time Star Trek really hit top stride was when they decided >not to take themselves seriously and do a comedy (movie 4, Tribbles, etc)? well, it was all comedy unintentionally anyway...c'mon, William Shatner???? His....acting....is.....OUT THERE!!!! (Of course, he did give the world his album "the transformed man" and Keanu "Dude!" Reeves a prototype.....:-)) The only talent in the cast was Nimoy... -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:09:54 +0930 From: dlang Subject: new Robyn tour dates. ROBYN HITCHCOCK TOUR DATES Australia June 8: Punter's Club, Melbourne June 10: The Basement, Sydney June 11 or 12: Robyn introduces Storefront Hitchcock screening at Dendy Cineman, Sydney bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. First time he comes to Oz in seven years and I live 800 ks away in Adelaide ! No way can I afford to fly that far - apart from the fact I loathe planes Are there even any fegs in Sydney and Melbourne to record the shows ? Still , we might get a radio show out of it. the extremely annoyed Feg xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Plumb at NTAC Subject: Homer Lounge review In a review of a Go-Betweens show from their mailing list, the reviewer mentioned Homer (or what used to be called Homer) - --- here's the pertinent excerpt: The support band, Tim Keegan and the Departure Lounge (formerly known as Homer Lounge), was the one to which I'd been looking forward, and a pity that they couldn't have been on every night, but they're about to join on the tour, so various of you will be able to catch them. Sort of Neil Young type folkie rock, with an attractively enthusiastic drummer, who sings, drums, plays keyboards, grins and tries to stare down the upright bass player all at the same time. - --- rich _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Plumb at NTAC Subject: Re: Incidentally Eb wrote: > I did take the bite for a Tom Waits ticket yesterday > morning. And whatta bite: a cool $72.25, including > service charge. Gawwwwd. I don't think I'd > pay that for ANYONE, except him. Well, maybe Brian > Wilson or (fat chance) XTC. > I actually saw Brian Wilson "perform" once and it was free. Well I did have to pay towards whatever charitable organization was hosting the benefit. I think it was Heal The Bay and the Surfrider Foundation. It was back in about 1990 when I was living the high life in Venice Beach, CA. I put perform in quotes because my dim memory of the event was that Wilson was so bad that it was sad in a pathetic way. It was underrehearsed and there were technical problems, but the biggest problem was that Wilson had minus zero stage presence. Fortunately it was all over in about 30 minutes. For some reason the memory of this also brought back the memory of the last time I saw the Beach Boys. As a long-time Washington, DC resident I used to regularly go down to the Washington Monument on the 4th of July and watch them perform and they always seemed to fit the occasion wonderfully. Then of course the psycotic James Watt decided they were evil and for a year or two they were banned. One of those years we were graced with Wayne Newton and a 50-piece orchestra which was actually pretty darn great. Anyways the year the Beach Boys returned after Watt had returned to the rock from which he'd crawled, my then-girlfriend and I worked our way through the crowd until we were within a dozen or so of the stage. To our amazement playing drums for them that day was Ringo Starr. That was really cool. rich _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:10:54 +0000 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: film I am going to the 9:30 am showing this morning, thinking that it won't be the nightmare crowd of the weekend. (star wars that is , no the mummy or entrapment if there were any confusion) eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:16:24 -0500 From: "chad leahy" Subject: Re: film >I am going to the 9:30 am showing this morning, thinking that it won't >be the nightmare crowd of the weekend. (star wars that is , no the mummy >or entrapment if there were any confusion) i went to a 3:00pm showing yesterday. surprisingly, the theater was *maybe* 1/3 full. the 9:15, however, was jam packed. chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:57:26 PDT From: "Ghost Surfer" Subject: Terrastock Got this from the Dreamy Records web site (dreamyrecords.demon.co.uk) Terrastock III 27-29 August 1999 University of London Students Union (ULU), Malet Street, London WC1E the famous Terrastock finally comes to London! Well, it nearly didn't happen. And then a little angel from behind a big white fluffy cloud came down to London with a promise to fulfill our dreams! He didn't have wings, but he wore a brown suede jacket and smoked roll-ups. Anyway, just what is a TERRASTOCK? Details of line up, ticket prices on it's way.. watch this space! Guess it's on then!!! - ----------------************************************************------------ "There are times when i can't think about the future, when all my days seem so dark and life seems cruel" - Mojave 3 & "Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:30:34 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: tickets, not for Star Wars (now 100% S-K) In a message dated 5/19/99 6:41:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, HSatterfld@aol.com writes: << Although if someone can tell me how to pronounce Sleater-Kinney that would be an acceptable alternative. >> The first word sounds like "sleet" with an "ur" at the end (like if "sleet" were a verb and the weather could be described as "sleet," "sleeter" and "sleetist.") The second word sounds like "kidney," only without the "d." It's a street in Olympia, Washington -- an exit off of I-5, in fact. So, it doesn't have anything to do with the names of any of the band members (like the Dennison-Kimball Trio does). Oh, Jeme, you'll think this is funny. Janet Weiss (S-K drummer) came into the store the other day (on my day off) and Susan (my employee and pal) had Janet sign our "Dig Me Out" poster. It reads: "Thanks for the CD [heart] Janet." She bought a CD, apparently. Susan told me, but I forget which one. I kinda think *we* should've been thanking her for that (the purchase of the CD), but we didn't have any posters of ourselves to sign, so the rock star wins that contest any day of the week. So, J., did you get Janet to sign a bunch of stuff while you guys were at Widen(sp?) and Kennedy together? ;-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #185 *******************************