From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #181 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 16 1999 Volume 08 : Number 181 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: random movies [Joel Mullins ] the waves website [four episode lesbian ] a bit off topic [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: more movies [David Librik ] Re: more movies [dmw ] Re: more movies [Miles Goosens ] Re: music filing (was: random movies) [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Pi & Live At The Cambridge Folk Festival [Tracy Aileen Copeland ] Re: random movies [Chris ] More entertainment from the loony bin [Eb ] Autoharp - file it under A [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: More entertainment from the loony bin [amadain Subject: Re: random movies Ross Overbury wrote: > You've all heard me gripe before about the micro-catagorisation of pop > music sub-genres in record shops. I guess the difference between me > and the record shop is that I know where I'm likely to file a particular > artist. The system I use at home only has to be good enough for me. This is the point. Someone's personal collection should be catagorized the way that makes most sense for them. But in a record store, catagorization can get tricky. Back when the new Wilco album came out, I went to a local CD shop to buy it and couldn't find it anywhere. I finally asked someone and they pointed me to the Americana section. I didn't even know they had an Americana section. And I couldn't figure out why they'd put Wilco there and not the Eagles, who are probably the most "country" rock band ever. I hate the classifications in stores. And it's even worse in movies. As far as my personal collection goes, a simple abc system works fine, because I don't have hundreds of CDs like others on the list. But I'm thinking I might have to amend my book filing system. - --Joel, who's wondering if this is gonna lead to another discussion of High Fidelity. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:58:16 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: the waves website fegs, the katrina and the waves website appears to have been redesigned sometime recently (not sure when -- last time i tried to reach it, i got nowhere). not much there now, but you will find an article from record collector by peter doggett which touchs on kimberley rew's days in the soft boys and provides the history of the _bible of bop_ album. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:33:25 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: a bit off topic A little request- I know there are many avid tapers on this list, (especially since Robyn himself approves of tapes). If ANYBODY has the tape of the November 18th show of Patti Smith from DC last fall at the 9:30 club---PLEASE~~ PLEASE;;PLEASE Contact me! I have a bit of Patti, Television, and that Robyn guy I am more than willing to trade for this show... Those of us who are actually doing the P-shirts for that list want a copy of this show VERY badly. Also, If I could get a copy of the Ram;s Head show last year (Mine got destroyed before I could do dubs), it would be appreciated. thank you. -luther Robyn content: Has anyone heard him (w/ the E's) doing "Lysander" live? How did it sound? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:08:33 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: more movies Pathetic Doug say: >...just back from seeing _election_. liked it. friend said critic said >it was thinly veiled parody of u.s. presidential elections; methink >alleged said critic him have rock in head or see maybe different movie. not see movie yet, but book very obviously allegory of '92, except ross perot probably not closeted lesbian. book very clever. ha! ha! - - Daev ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: more movies On Sat, 15 May 1999, David Librik wrote: > Pathetic Doug say: > >...just back from seeing _election_. liked it. friend said critic said > >it was thinly veiled parody of u.s. presidential elections; methink > >alleged said critic him have rock in head or see maybe different movie. > > not see movie yet, but book very obviously allegory of '92, except > ross perot probably not closeted lesbian. book very clever. ha! ha! well, off the top of my head, _the player_, _the shining_, and hell, _witches of eastwick_ had substantially different thematic concerns in their novelistic and filmic incarnations, while retaining similar plot and characters. and i haven't read the book. and i think in any work in which an electoral campaign plays a significant plot role will have spurious similarities to actual elections, and it will be possible to argue that some ficitional candidate "represents" some real candidate. (of course, they're *supposed* to represent their constituencies, but you know whutimean...) but i don't think the film was about u.s. presidential politics *at all.* (trying to step around spoilers...) i thought it was about one man's moral decline, and the old question of the degree to which the end does (or doesn't) justify the means. he starts out the film lecturing on the difference between morals and ethics; he winds up acting as if he has neither. and the more i think about it, the less well the candidates and their platforms, such as they were, seem to correspond to the '92 election, apart from the simple fact that there were (sort of) three of them. i mean, why not just as well pick on the year that we kicked poor john anderson around? what was that, anyway, 1984? there were three candidates then, too. so now i'm curious. anyone else see it? agree/disagree? - -- d. - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:36:17 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: more movies At 09:14 AM 5/15/99 -0400, dmw wrote: >and the more i think about it, the less well the candidates and their >platforms, such as they were, seem to correspond to the '92 election, >apart from the simple fact that there were (sort of) three of them. i >mean, why not just as well pick on the year that we kicked poor john >anderson around? what was that, anyway, 1984? there were three candidates >then, too. 1980 -- Carter, Reagan, and John Anderson (not Jon from Yes or the "Swingin'" country singer). 1984 was Reagan vs. Mondale. I haven't seen the movie yet or read the book, so nothing to add there. later, Miles np: Lou Reed, SET THE TWILIGHT REELING ====================================================== Miles Goosens R. Stevie Moore website http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal website http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles "JAWS was never my scene, and I don't like STAR WARS." - Queen, "Bicycle Race" ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:08:12 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: music filing (was: random movies) In a message dated 5/14/99 5:57:56 PM, overbury@mustang.cn.ca writes: << Hey, where do I file Roni Size/Reprazent? >> Looks to me like the beginning of a section for electronica/trip-hop/abstrakt hip-hop/chill-out/techno/ambient/drum'n'bass music! . . . where's your DJ Shadow filed at the moment? Massive Attack?! At the very least: Portishead?!?! - -----Michael K., who just realized he's in dangerous "over-categorizing" waters due to his Kiwi-Pop section. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:13:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Pi & Live At The Cambridge Folk Festival The entire meaning of _Pi_ is revealed when the old mathematician tells the young one the story about Archimedes. The moral of that story, he makes clear, is not that you should keep working; it's that you should take a bath. The film is nothing more than an artful plea for geeks to pay more attention to hygiene. Finally picked up _Live at the Cambridge Folk Festival_ (at amazon.com, no less) and was pleasantly surprised. I'm no huge fan of Hitchcock's _Respect_-era songs and never thought they improved all that much in concert, but this bounces along energetically (maybe he was in a hurry to get out, if first-hand reports of a hostile audience whose heckling had to be edited out of the finished proeuct are to be believed) and there's a terrific version of _Satellite_. - -- #! /usr/local/bin/perl $o=8889100880689;$s='1f6f544f';$o*=5;for(27,o(split//,$o),54){print t($_)}sub o{for(@_){$_||(push@a,0)&&next;/3/?push@a,$_.=4:/5/?push@a ,$_.=3:push@a,$_.=chop$s}@a}sub t{chr(hex($_)+32)} ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:45:54 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: menacing i mean, why else would lucas be such a hardass about making sure theaters keep the movie in the largest auditorium, unless he knows how badly it sucks? if the movie had legs, it'd be kept in the largest auditoria anyhow. that said, i'm probably going to go to some 3:00 am showing at the cinerama (they're already booked into mid-june for "normal" showtimes). i figure, if i'm going to see a shitty movie, i at least ought to do it in *style*, right? <(not Jon from Yes or the "Swingin'" country singer).> saw casey neill perform Seminole Wind (one of the very few country and/or western songs i have ever liked) the other night, and it knocked me for a loop. the entire show did, actually. this is shaping up to be as bitchin' a concert-going year as last. now, if i can only figure a way to get up to the vancouver folk festival to see dan bern & chris chandler! (by the way, dan's playing in eugene a week from tonight! you going, lobstie?) yeah! take *that*, eb! http://leb.net/iac/ http://www.beograd.com Who gets the benefit of this war? The bondseekers, the capitalists, the railroads will profit by this war. The new bonds give the basis for new banks and their power is prolonged. The privileged classes all benefit by this war. It takes the attention off economic issues and perpetuates the unjust system they have put upon us. Politicians profit by the war. It buries the issues they dare not meet. What do the people get out of this war? The fighting and the taxes. What is the United States doing in this war in the first place? True, Spain is oppressing Cuba. But so is England oppressing Egypt, Ireland and India. France is oppressing Siam and Madagascar. Turkey is oppressing Armenia. Should we then take up arms against all the oppressors of the world? We would most likely end by becoming oppressors ourselves. The Spaniards and Cubans were bushwhacking one another and killing from three to five men at a battle. We have gone down there and killed more in three months than they have killed in 13 years. If they were starving before the war, who will feed them after the war? What are we going to get out of this war as a nation? Endless troubles, complications, expense. Republics can not go into the conquering business and remain republics. Militarism leads to military domination, to military despotism. Imperialism smoothes the way for the emperor. --Tom Watson, Governor of Georgia, 1898 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re: random movies Joel Mullins campily sang- >What about Brian de Palma'a Phantom of the Paradise? It's a >comedy/horror/musical. And it's great. Very campy. And the music is >fucking great! Paul Williams stars and wrote all the music. It's >probably my favorite of this particular genre. NOOOOO!!!! Not the Phantom of the Paradise?!!!? I would put that in the same category as Grease 2, which although not a "horror movie" is in fact horrible. (Hey, you know, if they HAD put a monster in Grease 2, it would have been better.) Though I do watch it every time it's on, it is in a "wow, this is pretty bad" sort of fascination. Then again, I like watching bad movies. I often rent movies that I've never heard of trying to find something enjoyably bad. then Ken Ostrander quoted- > "if Plato is a fine red wine, then Aristotle is a dry martini" Let's leave Dana Plato out of it! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:35:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: More entertainment from the loony bin > From: crary@my-dejanews.com > Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles > Subject: Re: www.inergy.com/crary > Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:59:38 GMT > > That's actually quite interesting, NA, as far as the LAPD wendetta > goes if you're collecting cryptonyms and hidden puns concerning the > Lennon assassination caper. RZ right Crary is Crazy. Interesting > because Ronald ZZZsinSki was possibly the first assailant to jump out of > the hedges at me as a small boy. He forced me to swallow nitro-glycerin > and prevented me from going to school with a long hollow tube, > reinforced by Michael "Puma" Martino. (They botha later stomped me > good). RZ was DD's first boyfriend, it seemed, and commited several > crimes for which I was blamed due to our resemblance. Right. Now kiss > up, I hear the Croak Regroanov calling. Eb PS I got some email from Randi last night...nothing really which we don't already know, but it's good to know she's out there. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:41:20 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Autoharp - file it under A >> MG: >> >PS The characteristic twanging sound on 'You didn't have to be so nice' is >> >John Sebastian playing the autoharp. Does anyone still use autoharps? one person who hasd been known to play autoharp occasionally (other than me, but that's another story) is Billy Connolly. Although best known as a comedian, he started off his stage career as half of folk-rock band the Humblebums, with Gerry Rafferty, and still occasionally drags out the banjo or autoharp. >Hey, where do I file Roni Size/Reprazent? put it with the Laraaji/Audio Active CD >> Does this mean you like some women's bodies in their entirety, or some >> parts of every woman's body? Please clarify. what is it... something about yopu can like all of the woman some of the time, some of the women all of the time...? James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:32:38 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: More entertainment from the loony bin >> the hedges at me as a small boy. He forced me to swallow nitro-glycerin >> and prevented me from going to school with a long hollow tube, >> reinforced by Michael "Puma" Martino. ROTFLMAO! My former landlord is named Michael Martino. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #181 *******************************