From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #169 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, May 6 1999 Volume 08 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis ["Jason R. Thornton" ] a big buncha things... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] more toons/ [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] more toons/ [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] woo! [Eb ] woo! [Eb ] Luna "released" ["Chris!" ] Re: woo! [Eb ] Re: Luna "released" [Eb ] Flanders Triv ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Flanders Triv [Glen Uber ] Re: Flanders Triv [Glen Uber ] UK -- Luna [Joel Mullins ] Re: Luna "released" ["Chris!" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #167 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (Jam] Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres [amadain ] Re: more toons/ [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Seven Ways from Sunday [Joel Mullins ] Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres [The Great Quail ] Re: woo! [Aaron Mandel ] Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres [overbury@cn.ca] Yet another best of '98 top ten list [Griffith Davies ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:49:41 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis At 02:50 PM 5/5/99 -0700, Vivien Lyon wrote: >I disagree. Admittedly, Lovejoy is not an inspiring >portrait of a pastor. But the Flanders! I don't think >the depiction is malicious at all. In fact, it's one >of the most flattering pictures of Christianity I've >seen on television. God LISTENS to Flanders! And >Flanders, while insipid, is actually a good person. He >is the ideal Christian- maybe not someone a sinner >like myself would want to hang out with, but certainly >someone you could go to in times of need. "The Simpsons" has done an incredible job of criticizing organized religion. Lovejoy isn't only "bored," he's downright despicable at times. But, like the majority of characters on the show, he's fairly well-rounded, and has had his touching moments. I've always thought that depicting God as being on Flanders' side has always been more a commentary, a satire, on the "true believer" perspective of the world, the arrogance of the "God is own my side and I'm one of the chosen" point of view, rather than outright support of any religious assertion. On a related note, this leads me to my all time favorite Simpsons moment: Homer: [looking up] God, if you really are God, you'll get me tickets to that game. [doorbell rings] Ned: Hidely-ho, neighbour. Wanna go to the game with me? I got two tick -- Homer: [slams the door, looking up again] Why do you mock me, O Lord? Marge: Homer, that's not God. That's just a waffle that Bart tossed up there. [Marge scrapes it off the ceiling into Homer's hands] Homer: I know I shouldn't eat thee, but -- [bites] Mmm, sacrilicious. At 02:44 PM 5/5/99 -0800, Eb quoted someone else as saying: >... "Pardon me for being young and >nieve [sic], but who is Robyn Hitchcock?"... A friend of Tim Keegan & The Homer Lounge. How apt. ;) - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Re: acid bird dreams > Mark Gloster - ostrich-sized, pale rose chest, white throat. > Call: bohica-hica-hicabo. I think the bird in my dream was probably a Gloster, as it was clinging to a guitar, and I have been informed that Glosters often cling to guitars (though what they actually do with the guitars, I'm not sure). n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:27:28 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: a big buncha things... 1. Nat, don't expect anyone to actually explain what Glosters do with guitars. It is unusual and scary, but sometimes sacrilicious. 2. Simpsons: still the best thing on my teevee. I agreed with most of what TGQ said that I could understand. 3. Instruments: farting bedpost=bassoon, just thought you'd like to know. 4. Bayard is going to be in SharkWorld in just a matter of days. It sounds like Berkeley on the 13th might be a good day to hang with da man. As soon as we can figure out when the boy will be in Sandy Kruz we should try to get together. 5. Cappucin: Severe Tire Damage etc., you scare me. 6. Chris Franz: vee needz direkshuns and address. Happies, as usual, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:42:50 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: more toons/ Like Hanna-Barbara ever had any ideas to begin with??? Uh, I'm gonna ge tflamed, But---THE CARTOONS I grew UP ON SUCK!!! Space Ghost, Scooby-Doo, they are all predictable and lame. to say nothing of the smurfs.... -luther On Wed, 5 May 1999 11:23:31 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:58:00 +0100 (BST) >From: Michael R Godwin >Subject: Re: are you a hophop fan? > >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Eb wrote: >> This season, there has been a disastrous pattern of plunging Homer into an >> entirely different life for a half-hour, despite its complete unlikelihood. > >I am reminded of how cheesed off I became when Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera >ran out of ideas and started to put nursery rhyme characters in each >episode, sort of 'Hokey and Ding-a-ling meet Goldilocks' etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:42:53 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: more toons/ Like Hanna-Barbara ever had any ideas to begin with??? Uh, I'm gonna ge tflamed, But---THE CARTOONS I grew UP ON SUCK!!! Space Ghost, Scooby-Doo, they are all predictable and lame. to say nothing of the smurfs.... -luther On Wed, 5 May 1999 11:23:31 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:58:00 +0100 (BST) >From: Michael R Godwin >Subject: Re: are you a hophop fan? > >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Eb wrote: >> This season, there has been a disastrous pattern of plunging Homer into an >> entirely different life for a half-hour, despite its complete unlikelihood. > >I am reminded of how cheesed off I became when Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera >ran out of ideas and started to put nursery rhyme characters in each >episode, sort of 'Hokey and Ding-a-ling meet Goldilocks' etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:49:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: woo! Mule Variations entered the Billboard album charts at #30! Smoookin'! Eb, coming off a fresh discovery of betrayal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:50:27 -0800 From: Eb Subject: woo! Mule Variations entered the Billboard album charts at #30! Smoookin'! And meanwhile, platinum-selling Ben Folds Five entered at only #35. Eb, coming off a fresh discovery of betrayal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:58:01 -0700 From: "Chris!" Subject: Luna "released" Here is more on the whole Luna gig-thing-whatever... http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990505/story1.html .chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:20:46 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: woo! Oops...I didn't think that first message went through. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:23:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Luna "released" >Here is more on the whole Luna gig-thing-whatever... > >http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990505/story1.html Huh. So much for the credibility of the publicist who told me Luna was still signed.... I have a bad headache...I'm going to go away now. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 19:23:29 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Flanders Triv >On Wed, 5 May 1999, Tom Clark wrote: > >>A quick Flander's question for my Glosterian brain: what was the name of >>the store for lefties he once opened? > >Wasn't it the Leftorium? so that's two votes for "Leftorium", but ISTR it was the "Leftatorium" (sp?). I also remember one of his mall neighbors was "The Ladder Emporium". That was a brilliant episode. Hens love roosters Geese love ganders everybody else loves...Ned Flanders - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Flanders Triv On Wed, 5 May 1999, Russ Reynolds wrote: >Hens love roosters >Geese love ganders >everybody else loves...Ned Flanders While we're on the subject: The other day at a flea market, I ran across a book by Honore Balzac (sp?) that was entitled something along the lines of "Christ Favors Flanders". I had a nice little chuckle and no one around me was quite sure why I was laughing. I didn't buy the book, by the way. Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Flanders Triv On Wed, 5 May 1999, Glen Uber wrote: >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:31:22 -0700 (PDT) >that was entitled something along the lines of "Christ Favors Flanders". I just looked it up at Amazon.com. The exact title is "Jesus Christ in Flanders". Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:34:27 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: UK -- Luna Hey, do any of you UK fegs want to do me a huge favor? I would really appreciate it. Basically, I don't want to wait for god knows how long to get the new Luna album. And it doesn't sound like it's gonna be released here in the states anytime soon. And I can't get imports in this shitty town that I live in. So, would someone like to price a copy for me and possibly help me get one? I guess even some US fegs could help. Michael, can you order imports at your store? If someone, anyone, could help me get this album, then I'd really appreciate it. Just let me know. - --Joel, who has one more day of finals before he gets rip-roaring drunk. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:15:34 -0700 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: Luna "released" Eb wrote: > > >Here is more on the whole Luna gig-thing-whatever... > > > >http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990505/story1.html > > Huh. So much for the credibility of the publicist who told me Luna was > still signed.... > I would not say that. They were doing their job. Of course, everything that say is projected through the Elektra lens. But, I am surprised that it did not "break" sooner in a more official way, i.e. beyond that fansite report. I would have figured that such a story would be NME fodder day one. There is rumor floating around that Stereolab may have signed to Sony. The Groop where a long time candidate for being dropped. It is, after all, Spring. Time to clean house... .chris (who cleaned house a found mouse...shrilllll!!!!!) Private to Joel... Worry not my son, nothing is rare in the music commodity circus these days. These shores will see the album sooner than you think, both imported and another label's release. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:22:05 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #167 >p.s., does anyone know the rest of the lyrics to "I Dream of Genie With the >Light Brown Hair"? Does anyone know who originally sang this song, or is >this some wierdo crap my mom made up? (likely answer) it's got the sound of a trad Scottish song (and it's "Jeannie"). But I wouldna be surprised if it was actually written in tin pan alley. In fact I think it was someone like Foster. Whichbrings to mind my favourite Scottish joke: Q:What's the difference between Frank Sinatra and Walt Disney? A:Frank sings, and Walt disnae. James (donning Stewart-proof flak jacket) PS - lj - those invisible birds you dreamt of - did they have invisible red breasts? PPS - why are we all dreaming of weird birds? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:41:40 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres >My only hope is that soon the Simpsons will retire -- before they become >totally ossified, a museum piece used only to sell products based on the >repetition of long-devalued images. And I hope that the current makers of >the show will take it out with a bang -- having reached this point, I >want to see the show end in the only way it should end -- It should >brilliantly self-destruct; like a super-nova come after the long collapse >of a bright star. Let the show fall apart . . . let the characters break >through their restrictions and even their medium -- let them suddenly >wake up to find themselves 9 or 10 years older; or let them go under in a >cartoon Armageddon wherein they realize they've been canceled and all >make their preparations to meet the afterlife of Eternal Syndication. I think one of the best examples of this sort of thing I've seen was probably the last couple of Bloom County cartoons - Steve Dallas trying out for roles in other cartoons, Opus watching as beits of the backdrop are rolled away and a new highway is put through the meadow, etc. >I'm listening to Neo Geo by Ryuichi Sakamoto at work today. It's got a >song with Iggy Pop singing, so now we've got a Sakamoto/Hitchcock link. >Iggy-->Kate Pierson-->Peter Buck-->RH Sakamoto - David Byrne - Brian Eno - Elvis Costello... I know this was on Chalkhills not Fegmaniax, but I can't resist: >> j'ecris l'anglais en le burinant a la >> serpe ce qui me laisse peu de moyens de reparties. Cela dit, n'entravant >> que pouic quand ca se corse, ca me fait le dos large en matiere >> d'amour-propre ecorche > >I read French (un peu), but I didn't get that, so I sent it to the Babelfish >and I'm even more confused: > >> I write English by engraving it with the bill hook what leaves me few >> means of set out again. That said, blocking only pouic when that >> Corsican, that makes me the broad back as regards love-clean >> sectional view I feel another song coming on... :) James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:06:39 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres >>> j'ecris l'anglais en le burinant a la >>> serpe ce qui me laisse peu de moyens de reparties. Cela dit, n'entravant >>> que pouic quand ca se corse, ca me fait le dos large en matiere >>> d'amour-propre ecorche Oh hell, I can't resist. I still don't think I've quite gotten it. You want to have a go, Ross? "I write English in engraving of a pruning knife, which leaves me few methods of repartee. That is to say, not entangled but for (pouic?) when it thickens, that makes my back large in the matter of scraped self-esteem." "Self-esteem" doesn't -exactly- equate to "amour-propre" I guess, but it's the closest English equivalent I could come up with off the top of my head. Or hell, "amour-propre" is used in English too, isn't it? Scrap "self-esteem" then. I suspect "se faire le dos" is idiomatic, "makes my back large" is literally what it means. Puts my back up, maybe? I have no earthly idea what "pouic" is. Um, who said this, anyway? What was the context? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:58:44 -0400 (EDT) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Seven Ways from Sunday The Matrix had neat effects, but as a former MUD programmer, I've got to wonder why the computer wasn't more vicious. As soon as you suspect that some guy is going to destroy you, the cruelly efficient thing to do is summarily destroy him. Were I an evil computer, I wouldn't muck about with things like "agents" with virtual guns. I'd use lightning bolts, spontaneous combustion, and other instant death sort of methods. (You know, the sort of stuff you run into when you get a DM _really_ mad.) Since we're talking about best TV shows, etc. I've got to say a few words about the Batman and Superman animated series (the current ones). Firstly, they're the best looking American animation I've seen apart from early Disney and the 50s Supermans. They manage to translate the villains well, and don't just use the famous ones, like the older superhero cartoons did. Well, like I usually say, I'm bad at describing things I like, but I really dig this cartoon. (No, I'm nto saying it's the best show ever, but it has a good chance at best cartoon ever. The only competition it really has is The Simpsons.) Relatedly, I was watching "O Canada" (the Cartoon Network's Canadian cartoon program) the other night and I came across this _really_ odd one called "To Be" (I think). It was drawn in a sketchy style, with random objects in the background (like a swordfish or a buick), and the basic plot was this: A mad scientist invents a teleportation device (which looks curiously like two refrigerators) and tries to get a woman to use it. She refuses and demands taht he explain how it works. It creates an exact duplicate of the item at the destination, then destroys the original. He explains that it's the same to make a copy and destroy it as it is to not make a copy, and that it's the same to destroy the original as it is to destroy the perfect copy. She suggests that he make a copy but not destroy the original for five minutes. They do so, lose track of the original, and compete to find out who the real one is. Then they destroy the original (who objects enthusiastically). The lady realizes she's killed someone who would rather not have been killed, sings a sad little song. She enters the machine, destroys herself and her clone comes out singing a happy little song about how it wasn't her who did any of the bad stuff. I had the distinct feeling that my head was beign messed with. Unrelatedly, I picked up Paul McCartney's "Ram", The Pretty Things' "S.F. Sorrow" and The Moles' "Instinct". Ram was a really big disappointment. It's high points (Too Many People, Uncle Albert) were good in the classic Paul McCartney fashion. The bad songs were all gimmicky production, bad "joke" lyrics and very uninventive music. The Bonzo Dog Band might've made a decent album track out of "Smile Away", but Paul didn't. "3 Legs" and "Monkberry Moon Delight" are especially grating. At least George Harrison's filer is pleasantly ignorable. Are other McCartney albums this bad? Instinct was good, but seemed incomplete. I'm surprised to see very litle mention of Richard Davies around here. He seems like the sort of artist some of you-all would like. How good is Cardinal, and do the songs on that album flow better? I rather liked S.F. Sorrow. Doesn't make any sense, but psychedelic rock operas generally don't. (Are there any that do?) Apart from "Balloon Burning" and "I See You", I like every song on the album. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:38:05 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 >>>>> "Michael" == Michael R Godwin writes: Michael> PS 'Crumhorn' Bless you - hope the cold gets better. Call me a liar for a variant spelling? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:09:12 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Jeanie, the acid bird On Wed, 5 May 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > It was written by Stephen Foster. > I won't bore everyone with the lyrics, but you can find them here: > http://www.interlog.com/~speirs/songs/qsong121.htm Well, if you won't bore people, I will. I hadn't previously noticed any overt illegal substance references in the works of Stephen Foster, but this seems quite unambiguous: I dream of Jeanie with the light brown hair, Borne like a vapour on the summer air; I see her tripping where the bright streams play, Happy as the daisies that dance on her way. Far out, Foster! Right up there with 'WHite Rabbit' by the Airplane and 'Mary Jane' by Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera ('Her name's a dream, her dream's a name' etc). I also found a list of some Foster compositions at: http://ingeb.org/SCFoster.html They include 'Beautiful dreamer', 'Camptown races', 'My old Kentucky home', 'Oh Susanna', 'Old folks at home'(i.e. Swannee River - MG), 'Old black Joe' (? is that the same as 'Poor old Joe?) and the memorable 'Some folks do'. What a songwriter! Certainly up in the Hoagy Carmichael class ... - - Mike Godwin PS I once saw Cliff and the Shadows in 'Aladdin', and the Shadows played an instrumental called 'Genie with the light brown lamp', so that Jean Genie pun hav been used before. I dread to think how long ago that was. PPS to Stephen: I didn't call you a liar - I only mentioned that crumhorn is the normal English spelling of the German krumhorn / krummhorn / krumphorn (all spellings from the 'Crumhorn Home Page') http://www.iinet.net.au/~nickl/crumhorn.html Don't take it personally! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:20:04 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: more toons/ On Thu, 6 May 1999, David W. Dudich wrote: > Like Hanna-Barbara ever had any ideas to begin with??? > Uh, I'm gonna ge tflamed, But---THE CARTOONS > I grew UP ON SUCK!!! > Space Ghost, Scooby-Doo, they are all predictable and lame. > to say nothing of the smurfs.... > -luther Right. I go back to the glory days of the first Huckleberry Hound series, with Yogi as second string and Pixie and Dixie as the third item. And Top Cat (click - crunch - creak - 'The Boss Cat' - clunk) is the greatest. I spent years on perfecting my Choo Choo voice and it still sounds nothing like him. Even Fred and Wilma were funny before the yukky Pebbles and Bamm Bamm episodes ... - - Mike Godwin PS The mystery line in the Top Cat theme is "provided it's with dignity" PPS There used to be a UK cat food called 'Top Cat', so the BBC in their infinite wisdom inserted a title card with the changed name 'The Boss Cat'. Fortunately they didn't insist on TC being changed to BC, or the show would have been in competition with the Flintstones (joke). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:09:45 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Seven Ways from Sunday normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > Unrelatedly, I picked up Paul McCartney's "Ram", The Pretty Things' "S.F. > Sorrow" and The Moles' "Instinct". > Ram was a really big disappointment. It's high points (Too Many People, > Uncle Albert) were good in the classic Paul McCartney fashion. The bad > songs were all gimmicky production, bad "joke" lyrics and very uninventive > music. The Bonzo Dog Band might've made a decent album track out of > "Smile Away", but Paul didn't. "3 Legs" and "Monkberry Moon Delight" are > especially grating. At least George Harrison's filer is pleasantly > ignorable. Are other McCartney albums this bad? Actually, Ram is one of my favorite McCartney albums. I love Monkberry Moon Delight. And what about the Back Seat of My Car or Long-Haired Lady or Dear Boy? Those are all great songs! I really like his first solo album too. It's called McCartney. Maybe you'd like that one better. It's got some songs I'm sure you've heard, like Junk and Maybe I'm Amazed. I never can decide which of these albums I like better. They're both great. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 99 11:15:20 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres James writes, >I think one of the best examples of this sort of thing I've seen was >probably the last couple of Bloom County cartoons - Steve Dallas trying out >for roles in other cartoons, Opus watching as beits of the backdrop are >rolled away and a new highway is put through the meadow, etc. Yes! Completely. As a matter of fact, I sort of had that in the back of my mind, along with the final issues of Grant Morrison's "Animal Man" comic, where Buddy realizes he is a comic book character and demands to know why Grant has visited all this horror upon his life. . . . Of course, the first real PoMo cartoon was the Warner Bros. Episode "Duck Amuck." Ah, the classics. - --Quail A-flail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: woo! On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eb wrote: > Eb, coming off a fresh discovery of betrayal Was it me this time? I'm always betraying SOMEBODY. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: woo! On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eb wrote: > Mule Variations entered the Billboard album charts at #30! Smoookin'! And > meanwhile, platinum-selling Ben Folds Five entered at only #35. well, you're right about how much the Ben Folds album sucks and the single is unexciting. is this Owsley guy friends with Benson and Falkner and the rest? sure sounds like it. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:46:05 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres Date sent: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:06:39 -0600 To: fegmaniax@smoe.org From: amadain Subject: Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres Send reply to: amadain > > >>> j'ecris l'anglais en le burinant a la > >>> serpe ce qui me laisse peu de moyens de reparties. Cela dit, > >>> n'entravant que pouic quand ca se corse, ca me fait le dos large en > >>> matiere d'amour-propre ecorche > > Oh hell, I can't resist. > > I still don't think I've quite gotten it. You want to have a go, Ross? Here's my best guess, paraphrased: "Normally, when I write English it's graffiti scratched with a knife, so I can't get too clever. When all you can do is 'scritch', it's a bit dangerous to take on too much to build up your ego." - - fait le dos large: too take too much on one's shoulders - - quand ca se corse: when it becomes dangerous - - pouic: I'm guessing it's automon^H^H^H^H^H^Hottoman^H^H^H^H^Hone of those words that make the sound of the thing they're trying to describe, like scritch. > > "I write English in engraving of a pruning knife, which leaves me few > methods of repartee. That is to say, not entangled but for (pouic?) when > it thickens, that makes my back large in the matter of scraped > self-esteem." > > "Self-esteem" doesn't -exactly- equate to "amour-propre" I guess, but it's > the closest English equivalent I could come up with off the top of my > head. Or hell, "amour-propre" is used in English too, isn't it? Scrap > "self-esteem" then. I suspect "se faire le dos" is idiomatic, "makes my > back large" is literally what it means. Puts my back up, maybe? I have no > earthly idea what "pouic" is. > > Um, who said this, anyway? What was the context? > > Love on ya, > Susan > - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Yet another best of '98 top ten list My audiophile friend has been giving me his old copies of Stereo Review's "Sound & Vision" magazine (www.soundandvisionmag.com). The first issue he gave me is dated February/March 1999. Here is their top ten picks for 1998: 1. Liz Phair - Whitechocolatespaceegg 2. Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road 3. P.J. Harvey - Is This Desire? 4. Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue 5. Paul Kelly - Words & Music 6. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill 7. Bruce Hornsby - Spirit Trail 8. Robyn Hitchcock - Storefront Hitchcock 9. Kristen Hersh - Strange Angels 10. Jimmy Page & Robert Plant - Walking Into Clarksdale. Honorable Mention: Bob Dylan - Live 1966, The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert. griffith ps - just picked up "Trout Mask Replica" I'll have to let that one digest for a while. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:41:11 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: La Famille Simpson, etc les six degres >- pouic: I'm guessing it's automon^H^H^H^H^H^Hottoman^H^H^H^H^H >one of those words that make the sound of the thing they're trying to >describe, like scritch. onomatopoeia? That reminds me: I've been reading a couple of books about the Ottoman Empire lately. Apparently the Turks call it the "Osmanlis" Empire, because it was founded by a guy named Osman. So why don't western types call it that? Are we so glib that we can't spell or pronounce the word properly? Or did *they* deliberately spell it that way when it was translated into western languages, just to throw us all off? And is *this* the the inspiration for the names "Oz" and "Ozma" in L. Frank Baum's books? Or "Ozymandias", even, which IIRC was written by Edgar Allan Poe? And is this, then, the source of the word "OnomatoPOEia"? And why am I asking these questions on the Robyn Hitchcock list, and not the Ottoman Empire list, or the Edgar Allan Poe list? *Is* there an Ottoman Empire list, by the way? And who would subscribe to such a thing? Anyway, I missed the Simpsons on Sunday, so I have no pertinent comments, not that THAT's anything unusual. John H. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #169 *******************************