From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #168 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 5 1999 Volume 08 : Number 168 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [The Great Quail ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #167 [David Witzany ] Ellis Paul, etc. [Jean Katherine Rossner ] Re: are you a hopschlop fan? ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Fwd: Six Degrees of Robyn Hitchcock [Tom Clark ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Vivien Lyon ] "i am familiar with the works of pablo neruda." -- bart simpson ["Capita] Re: are you a hopschlop fan? [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Jeanie, that dishwater blonde chick [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Eb ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Vivien Lyon ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Tom Clark ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Ben ] Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis [Glen Uber ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 99 12:19:13 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis Joel writes, >I'm just wondering. Am I the only person on the list who doesn't have >any use for the Simpsons? Yes, probably. Heh. Anyway . . . if I may be permitted to make three observations on the Simpsons. . . . But I warn you, this may be the most serious crap you will read this morning. I started off writing about why I liked the Simpsons, and ended with a small doctoral dissertation. 1. It is, in my opinion, the best American show, ever. I don't think anything has so successfully captured modern America like the Simpsons -- it is one of the only shows I know that can skewer one sacred cow after another and yet still shed light on the virtues and positive values of American society without resorting to "Touched by an Angel" sentimentality. We all know the satirical aspect of the show, wherein lies its true genius. But I also want to make a point for the genuine emotional richness of the Simpsons, especially in its middle years. As a matter of fact, the Simpsons is the only TV show which can actually make me cry wistfully -- sometimes it really does touch me that deeply, hitting a level of true feeling without resorting to the usual arsenal of tear-jerking effects which just leave me stone cold or even cynically amused. For instance, when Bart and Lisa are pitted against each other in hockey and then finally throw off everything else and cooperate; when Lisa dreams about her future and she gets married to an Englishman and then realizes that she still loves her family; and especially -- this one *always* gets me -- when Maggie is born and Homer has to return to work in the Nuke plant, covering up Burns admonition with her pictures and forming the words DO IT FOR HER. I seriously choke up. The Simpson are indeed the most dysfunctional family around, but in their examples of spontaneous unity, familial love, and forgiveness, I see reflected a lot of those *true* family values that Republican idiots like Dan and Newt toss around as the bash shows like the Simpsons. Hell, it used to drive me crazy when I was a teacher . . . so many of the older teachers mouthed inane shit like "I hate the Simpsons. A show about an under-achiever -- what crap." These fuckwits never saw more than one episode, and refused to give it a chance -- and this was well into the third or fourth season! (Cue: "Old People . . . they make young people scream. . . ") Of course, "Life in Hell" had the same blend of compassion and wicked satire. Matt Groening -- the man should win a Nobel Prize for something or other. 2. The Simpsons is of the only real postmodern masterpieces accepted by popular culture -- indeed, it is the widespread acceptance of the Simpsons that affirms my belief in the school of thought that (forgive me for dipping into CritSpeak) states the postmodern paradigm is our late society's operational norm rather than a mutant strain of thought that affects only academia and science. (As much as I dislike its annoying characters and its vacuous ethical universe, "Seinfeld" is another such show.) At its best, the Simpsons can dip into Surrealism, Dadaism, Expressionism, wicked social satire and parody, social constructive "moralizing," simple but hilarious physical comedy, PoMo self-reflectivity and irony -- and yet (at its best) still has a genuine originality, freshness, and powerfully emotive core. As a Thomas Pynchon fan, I am in awe of the Simpsons, and even more impressed by the fact that it is so bloody *popular!* 3. Yes, I hate to say it, the show has been steadily declining over the last few seasons. Conan and Groening are no longer at the helm, and after a decade, ideas are wearing thin. There are still some great episodes -- I really liked the one a week ago, where Bart takes over the Springfield Retirement Castle. And even in the worse episodes there are classic moments. (Even the Navy episode had the Soviet Union suddenly returning to form with rotating name plates and hidden missiles and such, which cracks me up totally; and I *liked* the fact that Nessie was "cute.") But sadly, the Simpsons is being victimized by the very forces that once kept it so vital. Set into a form where the characters are not allowed to age and must remain in one location, the show has reached its limits, I fear, and is now subject to postmodern exhaustion. Once granted self-awareness; it could no longer reinvent itself and expand . . . hell, it reached a limit of maximum expansion after it recognized the very fact that it *had* reached a limit of maximum expansion, generating faux spin-offs of itself. (A GREAT episode; but like "23(?) Short Films about Springfield," a one-shot stroke of brilliance reached at an apex that leaves little room for regeneration.) Like a beast that has devoured its entire environment, the Simpsons must now devour itself. Deconstructing itself was just the first, and wittiest, phase; but now we're in the doldrums, as the final stages of entropy are felt: The same stable of characters get run through slightly different paces; Homer finds one zany job after another; celebrity appearances are now the norm -- and are even commented upon, of course -- and even the oldest jokes are now just commentaries about a time long past. Indeed, we have reached a "third generation" model, wherein old jokes are more like meta-commentaries on previous, fresher self-aware commentaries on the original thing. For example -- can Bart really say "Eat my Shorts" anymore without triggering a feeling of weariness devoid of anything but the smallest ghost of irony? Already four or five seasons ago, that phrase and others became the subject of clever self-paraody. (Marge: "I never thought I'd see a Simpson on a T-shirt;" and the "I didn't do it Boy" as media creation.) Now, it's just tired and totally spent. My only hope is that soon the Simpsons will retire -- before they become totally ossified, a museum piece used only to sell products based on the repetition of long-devalued images. And I hope that the current makers of the show will take it out with a bang -- having reached this point, I want to see the show end in the only way it should end -- It should brilliantly self-destruct; like a super-nova come after the long collapse of a bright star. Let the show fall apart . . . let the characters break through their restrictions and even their medium -- let them suddenly wake up to find themselves 9 or 10 years older; or let them go under in a cartoon Armageddon wherein they realize they've been canceled and all make their preparations to meet the afterlife of Eternal Syndication. Maybe, in true PoMo tradition, they can be allowed to enter our "real" world and meet their creators; then all involved can take a bow and say good night, the Simpsons walking off the set with Matt Groening, Julie Kavner, Hank Azaria, Gracie, and even that Unit Choomung fellow. . . . 4. And from the ashes will rise . . . FUTURAMA!!!!! - --Apu Nahasaquailapetalon PS: I was going to name this post "I Can't Believe it's Not Slug," and it was going to be maybe two short paragraphs. Heh. TOO MUCH COFFEE. . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:42:04 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #167 lj lindhurst queried: >p.s., does anyone know the rest of the lyrics to "I Dream of Genie With the >Light Brown Hair"? Does anyone know who originally sang this song, or is >this some wierdo crap my mom made up? (likely answer) It was written by Stephen Foster. He probably performed it first himself; I have no idea who first recorded it, but it's been covered by the likes of Mitch Miller and Myron Floren. I won't bore everyone with the lyrics, but you can find them here: http://www.interlog.com/~speirs/songs/qsong121.htm Lots of other camping song lyrics here, too--it's a Canadian Scouting website. Dave. David Witzany witzany@uiuc.edu ....one of Nature's bounds checkers - ------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 09:56:04 -0700 From: Jean Katherine Rossner Subject: Ellis Paul, etc. >From: Ross Overbury >Ellis Paul. Folk singer-songwriter with a rather idiosyncratic >voice and strong material. Check him out if you get the chance. >I'll make sure at least one of you do. (Two if you count the >live cut that J-Kat hasn't heard yet, but since she got me >started on Ellis I guess it doesn't.) Which live cut? I saw Ellis last month and he played a bunch of new stuff. (Not his best performance, and so far the new stuff isn't really to my taste.) I'd rather not be called "J-Kat", since learning that that's prison slang for somebody who's seriously insane. >I've got Ellis Paul's "Stories". Katherine also played another >one for me with a song about how he's spent his whole life on a >plane, which struck me as more the type of writing Robyn would >enjoy than some facsimile of Robyn's writing. Yes, but that wasn't Ellis; you're thinking of John Wesley Harding's "Window Seat". As David Librik mentioned once, JWH appears to be a feg--at least, he sat next to David at a Robyn concert some time ago. The Ellis Paul show at the Freight was, btw, a double-header with JWH. Worked better than I'd have expected. And their duet of the Holy Modal Rounders' "Euphoria" was the only time I've seen Ellis be really goofy. >I think Robyn and Ellis would have made a more natural >double bill than oh, Robyn and Billy Bragg, for instance. Not >that that was a particluarly awkward match. Again, I think you mean Robyn and JWH. I can't see Ellis there. Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:11:40 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: are you a hopschlop fan? At 10:36 PM 5/4/99 PDT, Capitalism Blows wrote: >Control were leaping about on stage, their audience stood there virtually >motionless....> >they were dancin' up a storm here in seattle. When I saw The OTC in Claremont, the audience sat on the floor, or on couches. Normally, I'd rather stand at gigs - not necessarily dancing, but I do seem to end up at least tapping my foot, and maybe nodding my head to the beat. If I know I'm going to be blocking someone else's view, however, I will sit. I'm rarely motionless, though, even if I'm sitting. >lord knows i wanted to, but i >was taping, so tried to keep the motion down to a minimum. One reason I personally never bother to tape gigs is because I simply refuse to engage in an activity that will seriously impair my normal enjoyment of the performance. If I wanna dance, I don't wanna worry about my MD recorder. Not that I ever really dance... Of course, I don't mind listening to other people's bootlegged recordings. :) >to encourage an encore, unfortunately.> > >they did this thing here, which i've been wondering if they do everywhere. >at the end of one particular song toward the end of the show, everybody >grabbed something to bang on, and started banging on it.... They did the same thing when I saw them, only a bit less atonal. A couple of people banged on things. A few others ran around with horns. The bass player was playing a saxophone, and blew a note right into my ear. *ouch* The Strat playing guitarist was banging a drum, and the keyboardist was playing a clarinet (maybe, I can't recall specifically...); the pair ended up standing right over my head. - --- On "The Simpsons": I'm gonna go with --> The writers of the show have always violated "rules" of setting and consistency in an attempt to satirize conventional "TV reality." They are not only aware of these violations, they have, as has been mentioned, on numerous occasions made the audience aware of the fact that they know they're breaking the rules, or making them up as they go along. As in many other TV shows, the characters constantly forget what has happened before, but unlike other shows, this is used as part of the larger joke, and part of the greater commentary. Unlike say the various "Star Trek" series, where the consistent inconsistency and constant disregard for what has happened in previous episodes just make for bad writing, in "The Simpsons" illogic and inconsistency are used as comic tools. And despite it all, the Simpsons are the still the most realistic, most believable, family ever to appear in television fiction. But heck, what I would REALLY like to see is a sudden breaking of all the previously established "Simpsons" ways of doing things next season...like all of a sudden the kids age...or Homer gets a new job, permanently. Maybe they should kill Bart every episode, and have him inexplicably return at the beginning of each following show unscathed. ;) I don't see this season as all that different from other seasons in terms of internal consistency. Still, I didn't think Sunday's episode was all that hot. A lot of the humor seemed rather forced and lackluster. Mr. Burns' King Kong rampage cracked me up though, as did the Vegas twist at the end (when they showed the outside of a casino, my first thought was that the Loch Ness Monster would wind up on display - not on staff - it was the name tag that sold that gag to me). But my favorite scene was where Homer looked up at the monster, then down at the cute lil' beanie-baby monster, and screamed something like "It's him!" On the rest of the night-time Fox cartoon programming: "Futurama" and "Family Guy" are both rawking my world, and solar systems beyond. And neither show has made me kill anyone yet. I've always despised "King of the Hill," and could never stomach more than two or three minutes of an episode. - --Jason My vote for Most Dangerous Twit of the Week: Senator Joseph Lieberman. Dumbass. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:47:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Fwd: Six Degrees of Robyn Hitchcock My brother just sent me this: I'm listening to Neo Geo by Ryuichi Sakamoto at work today. It's got a song with Iggy Pop singing, so now we've got a Sakamoto/Hitchcock link. Iggy-->Kate Pierson-->Peter Buck-->RH Once you open the Sakamoto vault, you've got Robyn hooked up with a lot of people, including Miles Davis, who is basically a musical virus. Here are some notables on Neo Geo: Bill Laswell Bootsy Collins Tony Williams (played with Miles Davis) Sly Dunbar David Van Tieghem - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:01:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis - --- The Great Quail wrote: > Hell, it used to drive me crazy when I was a teacher >. . . so many of the older teachers mouthed inane >shit like "I hate the Simpsons. A show about an > under-achiever -- what crap." These fuckwits never > saw more than one episode, and refused to give it a >chance -- and this was well into the third or fourth >season! My whole family was brainwashed by their church into believing the Simpsons an unmitigated repository of blasphemy, until gradually I broke up their ranks and indoctrinated them, one by one. My dad was the first to succumb (the shawm-playing Bill Lyon), followed by my sister Lori and her husband, and then my brother-in-law Darrell. Last time I was home, I carefully orchestrated a situation in which my mom couldn't help but watch a few minutes, and she laughed right out loud, three times! I put my arms around her and welcomed her to the fold. Now, the last remaining hold-out is my sister Lisa, who maintains that the Simpsons is vulgar and pagan. Vivien this is of course the sister that likes Celine Dion. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:20:35 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "i am familiar with the works of pablo neruda." -- bart simpson aw, i bet eb'd blow your trumpet if you were to ask riiiilly, riiiiilly nicely. "and her audrey hepburn feelers..."? not only that, but i think it's better than Flying Circus, which would make it the best teevee show i've been exposed to. my all-time favorite episode!! "oh, there are pictures! i keep them where i need the most cheering up." i'm with you 100% on this issue, quail. two things i noticed pretty early on. first, it's the only show i know of where they didn't have to set up jokes. no five minutes between punch lines, y'know? i have no idea how they were able to do it (and they're definitely no longer able to), but they had me laughing my ass off for the *entire* length of the show, *every week*. second, it occurred to me one night that i *always* had a huge, happy grin on my face during the last scene. not so much because the last scene was always so funny, but because it was always so touching. yes, commander lang, sentimental. needless to say, i really miss those days. apart from that great last shot, the other thing that most impresses me about this episode is the absolute horror evoked when homer realises he has to get a higher-paying job, and the only place in town it can be is...the nuclear plant. the show has always been very cinematic, but this was perhaps its most cinematic moment. (by the way, it would be kind of fun to go back and note all the Dr. Strangelove references in Simpsons history. there have been lots of them.) well, i think my other fave fave episodes are the one where homer has the heart attack, the one where homer goes to college, and the one where bart and lisa ghostwrite Itchy & Scratchy episodes for abraham simpson. yes, this has always bugged me, even when the show was in its prime. it's always bugged me about Peanuts, too. how old would the Peanuts gang be now, if they'd been allowed to age? the hell of it is, during the few flash-forward episodes they had, it was made awfully clear that they were *capable* of aging the characters and keeping the show vital. <4. And from the ashes will rise . . . FUTURAMA!!!!!> i actually did sorta enjoy last night's episode. but i still can't help comparing the first several episdoes of Futurama with the first several episodes of The Simpsons. and there's absolutely no comparison. you know what i think is a large part of the problem? the core characters are not only not nearly as compelling as The Simpsons (save bender, of course), but they're more less the *only* characters. right from the start, The Simpsons was populated with an entire universe of wonderful characters. i often scored baseball games listening to them on the radio, and one time i decided i should do the same when attending the games. but i soon realised that scoring games prevented me from having any *fun* at games, so i quickly scrapped the practise. however... this is the crux of the matter. there are just so many *crappy* bootlegs floating around. not that mine are so much better, but they're at least a little better. and while i enjoy having tapes of shows i've been to, the *real* reason i tape them all is 'cause i want to practice as much as i possibly can, so i can get the *robyn and dan* shows done right. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: are you a hopschlop fan? > But heck, what I would REALLY like to see is a sudden breaking of all the > previously established "Simpsons" ways of doing things next season...like > all of a sudden the kids age...or Homer gets a new job, permanently. Maybe > they should kill Bart every episode, and have him inexplicably return at > the beginning of each following show unscathed. ;) Burns should be a destitute French count. He and Smithers should try to cheat Lisa out of her fortune in every episode. Bart should refer to Lisa as "My Capitan". Groundskeeper Willie should refer to everyone as "Mate". THAT would make a good show. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:46:21 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Jeanie, that dishwater blonde chick In a message dated 99-05-05 12:43:15 EDT, you write: << >p.s., does anyone know the rest of the lyrics to "I Dream of Genie With the >Light Brown Hair"? Does anyone know who originally sang this song, or is >this some wierdo crap my mom made up? (likely answer) It was written by Stephen Foster. He probably performed it first himself; I have no idea who first recorded it, but it's been covered by the likes of Mitch Miller and Myron Floren. I won't bore everyone with the lyrics, but you can find them here: http://www.interlog.com/~speirs/songs/qsong121.htm Lots of other camping song lyrics here, too--it's a Canadian Scouting website. >> Good golly. 100 years from now, "Like a Rolling Stone" will be remembered as nothing more than a camping song. - -----Michael K., who really wants to get together a Stephen Foster cover band someday . . . maybe pepper it up with some other good tunes form that era, like "The Daring Young Man on the Flying Trapeze" (the title to that is actually probably shorter than that). Then again, there are a lot of music projects I'd like to get together; how many do I currently have going? 0. :-( . . . anyway . . . just wanted to say that Stephen Collins Foster fuckin' rules! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:44:18 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis Vivuchin: >My whole family was brainwashed by their church into >believing the Simpsons an unmitigated repository of >blasphemy. It IS! I'm always amazed that with all the films/music/television shows which get targeted by right-wing fundamentalists and the like, no one has *ever* mounted a protest against the Simpsons' violently malicious depiction of the idiotic Flanders family and the bored-out-of-his-skull Reverend Lovejoy. I mean, not that *I* am complaining, but whew! Nasty! Nice analysis, Quail. I don't know if I'd go quite that far, but you made some compelling points. I did kinda wrinkle my nose at the Bart/Lisa hockey embrace, myself. Yeah, it was "throat-lumping," but at the same time.... Yesterday's trauma: I was exchanging email with Beulah's publicist, who's a vivacious young critter in New York. I mentioned that some of the folks on the Robyn Hitchcock mailing list had seen the Beulah/Of Montreal/Ladybug shows, and she apologetically responded, "Pardon me for being young and nieve [sic], but who is Robyn Hitchcock?" Doh! Save me a websearch: Who wrote Tom Jones' "It's Not Unusual"? Eb, who has admittedly never heard of Ellis Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:50:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis - --- Eb wrote: > Vivuchin: Why, you cheeky monkey. > I'm always amazed that with all the > films/music/television shows which get > targeted by right-wing fundamentalists and the like, > no one has *ever* > mounted a protest against the Simpsons' violently > malicious depiction of > the idiotic Flanders family and the > bored-out-of-his-skull Reverend > Lovejoy. I mean, not that *I* am complaining, but > whew! Nasty! I disagree. Admittedly, Lovejoy is not an inspiring portrait of a pastor. But the Flanders! I don't think the depiction is malicious at all. In fact, it's one of the most flattering pictures of Christianity I've seen on television. God LISTENS to Flanders! And Flanders, while insipid, is actually a good person. He is the ideal Christian- maybe not someone a sinner like myself would want to hang out with, but certainly someone you could go to in times of need. Vivien Even my bible-thumping dad says so. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:01:09 -0500 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis >I'm always amazed that with all the films/music/television shows which get >targeted by right-wing fundamentalists and the like, no one has *ever* >mounted a protest against the Simpsons' violently malicious depiction of >the idiotic Flanders family and the bored-out-of-his-skull Reverend >Lovejoy. Well, speaking as a fairly "religious" person (though not a fundamentalist, by any stretch of the imagination), I can offer an opinion. I know a lot of people in my church who feel that the Simpson's is evil and blasphemous (apparently they're too apathetic to "mount a protest"), but there are also a good number of us who feel exactly the opposite. See the thing about the Simpson's is that they make dead, empty religion look as boring as it really is, and they make corny, flakey, religious goofballs look as ridiculous as they really are. But the show doesn't really mock *God*, and it really glorifies the values that are truly important (e.g., family togetherness, honesty, humility, etc.). So, there's that... :P Paul Christian Glenn | "Besides being complicated, trance@radiks.net | reality, in my experience, is http://x-real.firinn.org | usually odd." - C.S. Lewis Now Reading: "The Two Towers" by J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eb wrote: >Save me a websearch: Who wrote Tom Jones' "It's Not Unusual"? Gordon Mills and Les Reed. Mills was TJ's record producer and Reed was the musical director. Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:15:15 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis Hi-diddley-Ho neighbors! A quick Flander's question for my Glosterian brain: what was the name of the store for lefties he once opened? "Armageddon, Hooray!!!" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:25:34 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis Tom Clark wrote: > Hi-diddley-Ho neighbors! > > A quick Flander's question for my Glosterian brain: what was the name of > the store for lefties he once opened? The Leftorium, he said smugly. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:32:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: The Simpsons . . . a bloody thesis On Wed, 5 May 1999, Tom Clark wrote: >A quick Flander's question for my Glosterian brain: what was the name of >the store for lefties he once opened? Wasn't it the Leftorium? Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #168 *******************************