From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #166 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 4 1999 Volume 08 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Name that instrument! [Terrence M Marks ] My wife and my dead wife and my 3 daughters [Ross Overbury ] are you a hophop fan? [Eb ] Re: Deathwatch [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Name that instrument! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Name that instrument! [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] sucking Simpsons [JudeHayden@aol.com] Re: Name that instrument! [fred is ted ] Oliver Reed [Marcy Tanter ] My wife and my dead wife and my interpretation [Vivien Lyon ] Re: Oliver Reed [Michael R Godwin ] Re: are you a hophop fan? [Aaron Mandel ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 [shmac@ix.netcom.com] RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 [Michael R Godwin ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 [Capuchin ] Re: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: are you a hophop fan? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] clippety-clop, brain-fry ["Capitalism Blows" ] The crux of the biscuit [Glen Uber ] Re: My wife and my dead wife and my interpretation [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Name that instrument! [Glen Uber ] Re: Oliver Reed [Glen Uber ] Re: The crux of the biscuit [Capuchin ] Re: The crux of the biscuit [Glen Uber ] Re: Name that instrument! [overbury@cn.ca] Re: Name that instrument! [Glen Uber ] Re: Name that instrument! [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: are you a hophop fan? [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 23:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Name that instrument! On Mon, 3 May 1999, Ross Overbury wrote: > It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument > in "When I was Dead". It was a shawm, a small wooden oboe-like instrument. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:48:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: My wife and my dead wife and my 3 daughters Here's my revival of a zombie thread. We were talking about our kids and Robyn. My kids didn't listen to any Robyn. Neither does my wife. The last week or so I've had EOL in my car tape player, and suddenly my 10 year old stopped asking for that MOR radio station favoured by my wife and just kept rewinding MWAMDW whenever it finished. They all asked me what it meant, an we've been discussing it for the last few days. They lost their grandfather last summer, so they can relate. Last night I was called upstairs by Erin, my 4 year old, to wipe up after a trip to the bathroom. She was sitting there singing "My wiiiiiiife and my dead wife", with that glissando and everything. Bingo! Sue doesn't stand a chance on those 3-hour drives to the cottage anymore!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:14:08 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: name that instr'm'nt >From: Ross Overbury > >It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument >in "When I was Dead". crumhorn? shawm? hollowed-out petrified banana fitted with a reed? D-tuned sneezing anteater? James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:25:53 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: My wife and my dead wife and my 3 daughters Well, speaking of My Wife and My Dead Wife, I played that song for one of my English classes about two weeks ago. It's a class on British drama and we read Blithe Spirit by Noel Coward and Bayard was good enough to inform me that the song was in fact inspired by the play. So, I told my prof about it and we listened to it in class. Everyone seemed to really like the class. They all kept saying, "who is that?" Then I would answer and they'd get this really perplexed look on their face as if to say, "Robyn who?" And speaking of Robyn and professors, I gave that mix tape to that prof that I was trying to fuck and she really liked it. She called me into her office the day after I gave it to her and we had wild freaky sex on her desk. Then the dean walked in and.......actually she just told me she liked it and we talked and laughed about songs like Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl and she expressed her disbelief at never hearing of him before and that was it. The tape's been in the jambox in her office ever since then so she's either listening to it everyday or listening to the radio a lot. I would be really happy if one day I was walking down the hall and I heard Do Policemen Sing playing really loud. Joel n.p. The Stress - Let's Study for Finals Ross Overbury wrote: > > Here's my revival of a zombie thread. We were talking > about our kids and Robyn. My kids didn't listen to any > Robyn. Neither does my wife. The last week or so I've > had EOL in my car tape player, and suddenly my 10 year > old stopped asking for that MOR radio station favoured > by my wife and just kept rewinding MWAMDW whenever it > finished. They all asked me what it meant, an we've > been discussing it for the last few days. They lost > their grandfather last summer, so they can relate. > > Last night I was called upstairs by Erin, my 4 year old, > to wipe up after a trip to the bathroom. She was sitting > there singing "My wiiiiiiife and my dead wife", with > that glissando and everything. > > Bingo! Sue doesn't stand a chance on those 3-hour drives > to the cottage anymore!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:30:18 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: name that instr'm'nt James Dignan wrote: > > >From: Ross Overbury > > > >It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument > >in "When I was Dead". > D-tuned sneezing anteater? I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. And I really needed it too. Thanks James Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:26:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: are you a hophop fan? Wow! Did you see the three-star Beulah review in the new Rolling Stone? It's quite rare you see something an album that obscure reviewed in da Stone. Nifty. Eb Usenet Robbie Robertson comment, for Eddie (written by an ESL someone from Japan): Robbie's recent album "Contact From The Underworld Of Red Boy" is a very contemporary one that should be listened to by hophop or electropop listeners of today, not The Band fans. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:14:00 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Deathwatch On Mon, 3 May 1999, Eb wrote: > Oliver Reed. Is that right? I'll never forget his performance as the werewolf in that Hammer werewolf film. I liked 'The Jokers' too, but I thought that 'The Devils' was a wee bit camp. Other recent deaths include England wicket-keeper Godfrey Evans (811 catches and 250 stumpings in first-class matches) and Ananda Shankar, who did those rock-sitar fusion records which I'm afraid I didn't like very much. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:03:58 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Name that instrument! On Mon, 3 May 1999, Ross Overbury wrote: > I'll name a song with a Wacky Instrument (tm) and you tell me what > it is! It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument > in "When I was Dead". Whatever it is, I'd've said it was the same thing that makes that noise on 'Baby you're a rich man' by the Beatles. Shawm? Anteater? Hautboys without? I always assumed that it was a speeded-up processed guitar. - - Mike Godwin PS I spotted an out-and-out 100% example of _naffness_ over the weekend. There's an advert for Virgin Atlantic which features a bloke riding a motorcycle across some savannah-like terrain - no ideal why. And the background music is, revoltingly, 'Crazy Horses' (neigh! neigh!) the long-forgotten masterpiece by Alan, Donny and Merv(?) Osmond (yes, I've forgotten their names - good!). PPS It might even be a cover version. Who in their right senses is going to cover 'Crazy Horses' (neigh! neigh!) except possibly Frau Blucher (neigh! neigh!). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:17:06 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Name that instrument! Sounds like a mijwiz to me. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:22:49 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: dream journal distressed that jason alexander (do i have that right? the guy who played george on seinfeld) starred as the mysterious neighbor in the video for tom waits' "what's he building in there." it was the inescapable ball of tangled hair floating a few feet in front of my face that made me wake up in a cold sweat, though. sweet dreams, - -- d. - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:42:32 EDT From: JudeHayden@aol.com Subject: sucking Simpsons Eb said- "...My GOD, The Simpsons sucked last night. That was one for the record books." Phew- I'm glad I'm not alone in that thought... I was worried that I must've not been paying enough attention and missed something- anything- funny. Yuck. Jude ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:55:16 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Name that instrument! - --- Ross Overbury wrote: > > > So it's slow on the fegmaniax list? Time to play > another> fun-filled round of "name that instrument"!!! I'll> name> a song with a Wacky Instrument (tm) and you tell me> what> it is! > > It's that thing that sounds like a small reed > instrument> in "When I was Dead". an oliver reed? (when he was alive)... Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:06:10 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Oliver Reed He always scared me, esp. as Sykes in _Oliver!_. Not that I'm glad he's dead or anything, no one deserves that, but something about him always seemed sinister to me. Any fegs in OK or KS? Those tornadoes were just horrendous. We're in a tornado watch here in Texas, although I'm watching the clouds go by fairly fast and bits of blue sky are coming thru. If we have any folks in OK or KS, hope you're not hurt. Tornadoes are fascinating to watch but they are surely one of Nature's top 3 most awful creations. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:14:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: My wife and my dead wife and my interpretation - -- Joel Mullins wrote: > Well, speaking of My Wife and My Dead Wife, Yay! Now we're speaking of My Wife ad My Dead Wife! I have to unburden myself of this: when I first heard it, I thought Robyn had written it about his real life dead spouse, and the song was poignant and painful and beautiful. When I found out that not only does Robyn not have a dead wife, but that the song was based on a silly old play, I lost some of my ability to enjoy it. A similar thing happened with Summer's Cauldron (XTC). I first heard it when I was fourteen, and thought it was about suicide (please don't ask me to explain this interpretation). I found it overwhelmingly sad and lovely. As I gradually figured out that it was in no wise a suicide song, it lost a lot of its magic. Vivien _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: sucking Simpsons On Tue, 4 May 1999 JudeHayden@aol.com wrote: > Eb said- > "...My GOD, The Simpsons sucked last night. That was one for the record > books." > > Phew- I'm glad I'm not alone in that thought... I was worried that I > must've not been paying enough attention and missed something- anything- > funny. Yuck. A quick dissent: In my opinion that episode didn't even approach suckiness. Sure, it was no classic, but it was good enough to make me laugh out loud several times. I especially liked the King Kong parody near the end, where the monster placidly sits in a pool while Mr. Burns goes on a crazed rampage. And as for Eb's metaphorical "record book" -- the nadir of The Simpsons was reached in the episode where Homer joins the Navy, and it's extremely unlikely that this record will ever be broken. Of course, I like Phish and Skinny Puppy, so some of you might not respect my judgement very much.... - --Chris relevant book of the day: Bruce Sterling, _Heavy Weather_ ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:35:22 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Oliver Reed On Tue, 4 May 1999, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Tornadoes are fascinating to watch but they are > surely one of Nature's top 3 most awful creations. Along with Oliver Reed and 'Crazy Horses' by the Osmonds? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:38:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: are you a hophop fan? On Tue, 4 May 1999, Eb wrote: > Wow! Did you see the three-star Beulah review in the new Rolling Stone? > It's quite rare you see something an album that obscure reviewed in da > Stone. but when it happens, the record always gets three stars. in the early years of my music addiction, i discovered several albums which i still treasure by buying whatever got a glowing review in Rolling Stone accompanied by a confusingly low number of stars. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:09:47 -0800 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 Posting in from Digestland: What is a shawm? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:17:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Name that instrument! So it's slow on the fegmaniax list? Time to play another fun-filled round of "name that instrument"!!! I'll name a song with a Wacky Instrument (tm) and you tell me what it is! It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument in "When I was Dead". I'll start you all off with 50 points. Ready.... Go! - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:43:59 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 On Tue, 4 May 1999 shmac@ix.netcom.com wrote: > What is a shawm? It's an early trumpet. A hautboys is an early oboe. A sackbut is (? forgotten). A theorbo is an oddly-shaped lute. An oudh is a middle-eastern lute. A kit is a dancing master's fiddle. A cittern is more like a bouzouki than a guitar, although they are sometimes called 'English guitars' IIRC. A serpent is a kind of snake and also a serpent-shaped instrument. They're all without, probably, just like a city wall. Exit, pursued by a bear. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:53:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 On Tue, 4 May 1999, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 1999 shmac@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > What is a shawm? > It's an early trumpet. > > A sackbut is (? forgotten). A sackbut is an early trombone. > A serpent is a kind of snake and also a serpent-shaped instrument. A serpent is a wooden instrument that takes a trombone mouthpiece, but is played like a recorder or whistle or wooden or glass flute in that holes in the body are covered with your fingers to produce different tones. An ophicleide is a serpent made of metal with keys and usually more holes over all. brass-talkin' Je. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:59:18 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 In a message dated 5/4/99 7:45:42 AM, hssmrg@bath.ac.uk writes: << A sackbut is (? forgotten). >> . . . a trombone! I forget why it used to be called that, though. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:10:07 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: are you a hophop fan? In a message dated 5/4/99 12:25:45 AM, gondola@deltanet.com writes: << Wow! Did you see the three-star Beulah review in the new Rolling Stone? It's quite rare you see something an album that obscure reviewed in da Stone. >> And a well-deserved three stars they are! I saw the show last night here in Portland -- Beulah, Of Montreal, Ladybug Transistor (playing in that order, at Satyricon, $7 cover). All the bands played quite well and enthusiastically. I liked Beulah a ton (as expected), and Ladybug Transistor almost as much (a little more than I thought I would, actually! The singer's deadpan vocals worked better for me live). Of Montreal annoyed me as much on stage as they do on disc -- I stepped out for a bit during their set. Basically, everything everybody's been saying all along is true: good bands, good performances, cute bass player in Ladybug, fun horns, band members popping into other bands' sets for support, 6 collective elephants, etc. Oh, good crowd, too! The largest concentration of people were there for Of Montreal, but I think that's just cuz they played in the middle (set-wise). By the end of the Ladybug Transistor show (2:00 am), there were only about 20-30 of us left . . . but that just meant more BBQ chips and miniature Hershey bars for us. [thanks, Ladybugs!] Yea! Fun! - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:53:44 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: clippety-clop, brain-fry um, don't look now capoochie, but you've got some serious catching up to do before you're in the money. um, don't look now rosso, but My Wife And My Dead Wife is on FEGMANIA!, not ELEMENT OF LIGHT. reminds me of another conversation i had with khaleel, the five year old son of the boss, recently. i was folding napkins (fan-fold, for those of you that care about these sorts of things), and he was sitting there watching me, and finally tried to do one himself. i was actually fairly impressed with his attempt, but he couldn't get it to stick. finally he gave up, and said that he'd need a lot more practice, and that if you wanted to do *anything* well, it'd require putting in a lot of practice. ME: what about wiping your ass? HIM: i already know how to do that. ME: that's great. but you don't need to practice it. HIM: yes you do! ME: what the hell are you talking about? either you can do it or you can't. HIM: oh, yeah. my dad showed me how to do it. you can watch me some time if you want. ME: i think i'll take a raincheck. at which he absolutely busted a gut. which reaction surprised me because 1. i wasn't joking, and 2. i didn't figure he'd know what "raincheck" meant, although his language-acquisition skills had surprised me before then. now, *that* is the coolest thing i've heard in a long time! ha! this reminds me of something, too. one time i'd made a mix tape called "The Best of Butt Rock, Vol. I", to listen to at the country club. (yes, eb, it had a ronnie james dio song on it!) one time i accidentally left the tape in the "jambox", and somebody else had taken it upstairs and left it in an office up there. then this girl renee (who was actually quite a fan of "butt rock") was calling up some member or something to discuss whatever it is you're supposed to discuss with them, and while waiting for the phone to be answered, popped out the tape, and upon seeing its title, laughingly blurted out, "the best of butt rock, vol. I!", just as the phone was answered, then embarrasedly hung up. ah, nostalgia. yes, there was a volume II, but it wasn't as good (although i included orbison's In Dreams, and mojo nixon's Polka Polka, just to mix things up a bit). well, how much fucking sense does that make? that's kind of like saying that I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS shouldn't be listened to by soft boys fans. <"...My GOD, The Simpsons sucked last night. That was one for the record books."> somehow missed your original post, eb. drat! while i wouldn't say it was one for the record books, i will say that this season has been largely quite underwhelming. Family Guy, now, that show is getting more hilarious every week. i really didn't like the first episode at all, because it was so stewie-centered, and that one joke got very old very fast. but i'm actually starting to like stewie, now that he's not just trying to knock off his mom in every scene. i quite like the voices, mark, especially the dog. "i'm going to go outside and chew on the back of my ass for five minutes." here's something odd. looking through the Positive Vibrations tables of contents, and i see reviews of the '92 reunion gig, the brockenhurst station gig, the '94 reunion tour, the st. james' church gig, and GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS. but nary a mention of the bull and gate. by the way, aidan. if you're listening, i'd *still* very much like to procure copies of each issue... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:14:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: The crux of the biscuit On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Capuchin wrote: >I once used four... but I can't recall the construction. My dad, the transplanted Kansan he is, uses three or for in a word quite often: _G'onov'r'he'_ (Gon-O-vur-heah): a contraction of "get on over here" _Y'alloughtn't've dunnit_ (YAWL-ot-un-uv DUN-it): The lot of you should not have engaged inthose activities. _pre't'ne'r't_ (preet-NURT): pretty near to it Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:09:58 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: My wife and my dead wife and my interpretation In a message dated 99-05-04 10:15:41 EDT, you write: << Yay! Now we're speaking of My Wife ad My Dead Wife! I have to unburden myself of this: when I first heard it, I thought Robyn had written it about his real life dead spouse, and the song was poignant and painful and beautiful. When I found out that not only does Robyn not have a dead wife, but that the song was based on a silly old play, I lost some of my ability to enjoy it. A similar thing happened with Summer's Cauldron (XTC). I first heard it when I was fourteen, and thought it was about suicide (please don't ask me to explain this interpretation). I found it overwhelmingly sad and lovely. As I gradually figured out that it was in no wise a suicide song, it lost a lot of its magic. >> But isn't it also kinda magical that these songs inspired your daydreams? I think it's sad when "the truth" obliterates what was once the "magical daydreamed interpretation." Instead, couldn't the facts about the songs just be this, like, other set of information -- an extra layer? I think Morrissey said it best when he wrote: "A sad fact widely known the most impassionate song to a lonely soul is so easily outgrown but don't forget the songs that made you smile and the songs that made you cry" - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Name that instrument! On Tue, 4 May 1999, Michael R Godwin wrote: >Shawm? Anteater? Hautboys without? I always assumed that it was a >speeded-up processed guitar. With Viv Stanshall as the emcee? Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:43:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Oliver Reed On Tue, 4 May 1999, Marcy Tanter wrote: >Tornadoes are fascinating to watch but they are surely one of Nature's >top 3 most awful creations. I always thought Nature's top 3 most awful creations were light beer, NASCAR and 40 hour work weeks. Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:51:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The crux of the biscuit On Tue, 4 May 1999, Glen Uber wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Capuchin wrote: > >I once used four... but I can't recall the construction. > My dad, the transplanted Kansan he is, uses three or for in a word quite > often: > _G'onov'r'he'_ (Gon-O-vur-heah): a contraction of "get on over here" > _Y'alloughtn't've dunnit_ (YAWL-ot-un-uv DUN-it): The lot of you should > not have engaged inthose activities. > _pre't'ne'r't_ (preet-NURT): pretty near to it Actually, these are all several contractions pushed together. G'on ov'r he' Y'all oughtn't've pre't' ne'r't I'm pretty sure. J'm - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: The crux of the biscuit On Tue, 4 May 1999, Capuchin wrote: >Actually, these are all several contractions pushed together. > >G'on ov'r he' >Y'all oughtn't've >pre't' ne'r't Not the way my dad pronounces them, they're not. They all become single words. ;-) Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:32:44 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Name that instrument! Terry (and anyone else who suggested it was a shawm), can you quote a source? I downloaded a shawm sample, and it's close, but it didn't quite sound right. Close, though. The rackett sample was pretty interesting, too. I wonder if that instrument has anything to do with that expression used to describe an unpleasant noise? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Name that instrument! On Tue, 4 May 1999 overbury@cn.ca wrote: >Terry (and anyone else who suggested it was a shawm), >can you quote a source? I downloaded a shawm sample, >and it's close, but it didn't quite sound right. Close, >though. The only source I've seen is in the Respect liner notes. Cheers! - -Glen- "There are two ways to get enough. One is to accumulate more. The other is to desire less." --G.K. Chesterton Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:10:47 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Name that instrument! >The rackett sample was pretty interesting, too. I wonder >if that instrument has anything to do with that expression >used to describe an unpleasant noise? We've been having an inordinate amount of trouble with the language of late. I hope I can straighten y'alls outs jus' a bit.... No. This is actually an historical confusion. A "Mark Gloster" was once the unit of measure for quantifying an unpleasant noise. Rackett was the threashold for one's tolerance of said volume of irritation, and would then be forced to Dolph the perperpetrator with an anvil rackett in the lobster room (tennis had not been invented yet, they used these great big racketts and whack anvils at one another from across a river. Three Jellywobs and a Fizbo and you got a penalty Gyllyllywaggiggle!- A small part of this game is actually from the Welsh game, "Llyegllfaragg," or "let's all get splattered by falling English anvils.) Does anybody remember the middle ages hit "If I Had an Anvil?" Luckily these words have been diluted in meaning until modern usage makes them almost comical. Delirious from the amount of snot in my head and I can't seem to operate a facial tissue properly today, - -Markg Oh. I owe John Fetter a bunch of stuff and it really is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:09:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: are you a hophop fan? >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Eb wrote: > >> Wow! Did you see the three-star Beulah review in the new Rolling Stone? >> It's quite rare you see something an album that obscure reviewed in da >> Stone. > >but when it happens, the record always gets three stars. in the early >years of my music addiction, i discovered several albums which i still >treasure by buying whatever got a glowing review in Rolling Stone >accompanied by a confusingly low number of stars. I didn't think the review read like a four-star review. It contained criticisms. And heck, I'd probably give it three stars myself. Maybe three and a half. Chris: >I especially liked the King Kong parody >near the end, where the monster placidly sits in a pool while Mr. Burns >goes on a crazed rampage. I thought the entire Loch Ness Monster plot was *horrendous*. That monster belonged on The Flintstones, not The Simpsons. I also thought that the earlier blood-spurting-from-the-forehead gags were totally at odds with the tone of the show. >And as for Eb's metaphorical "record book" -- >the nadir of The Simpsons was reached in the episode where Homer joins the >Navy, and it's extremely unlikely that this record will ever be broken. This season, there has been a disastrous pattern of plunging Homer into an entirely different life for a half-hour, despite its complete unlikelihood. Then at the end of the episode, he's back in Springfield again, with the sojourn forgotten forever. This week, he's a bodyguard. This week, he's in the Navy. Etc. Etc. A new job every week. I really object to the episodes which violate the established setting of the show, and just treat the characters like floating punchlines which can be transported to any environment for some quick laughs. As for the record book, I don't remember many details about the episode anymore, but I remember one in which it was revealed that Principal Skinner was an entirely different person, just posing as Principal Skinner. That one absolutely infuriated me, for reasons similar to the above. (Again, trashing the "reality" of the show.) That might get the #1 slot in my "record book." I also remember really despising the one in which Marge bought into a chain of pretzel carts. Trivially, Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #166 *******************************