From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 3 1999 Volume 08 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- CD recorders (no Robyn) [Ben ] Fwd: ZNet Update -- Stop The Killing Train... ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: more bull & gate info [dlang ] Re: Happy Birthday! ...Other things... [Marcy Tanter ] Re: Deathwatch [hal brandt ] the grinning reaper [Zloduska ] Re: the grinning reaper [Capuchin ] Name that instrument! [Ross Overbury ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:49:12 -0400 From: Ben Subject: CD recorders (no Robyn) Does anyone have reccomendations on CD recorders, brands/makes/good deals, etc.? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 15:01:08 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Fwd: ZNet Update -- Stop The Killing Train... see, if y'all would get off your lazy asses and post something, then i wouldn't be sending stuff like this in. but you won't, so i am. From: "Michael Albert" To: Subject: ZNet Update -- Stop The Killing Train... Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:59:36 +0100 Hello, This is Michael Albert conveying another free ZNet Update to those who have entered their email address to receive these at http://www.zmag.org and reminding you that at that same place, further down the page, you can also remove yourself from the list should you wish to. Of course we have been adding more links and articles to ZNet, even since the last update: - -- A major new Instructional On Economics (http://www.zmag.org/instructs.htm) - -- An SEP site update (http://www.zmag.org/sep/sep.htm) - -- A new Activism Watch update (http://www.zmag.org/bulletins/activismbull.htm) - -- And of course new Kosovo pages (http://www.zmag.org/zmag/kosovo.htm) from, among others: Edward Herman at http://www.zmag.org/Commentaries/april_25herman.htm and Saul Landau at http://www.zmag.org/landau.htm. We've also added a section of song lyrics to the Kosovo pages that I feel speak to the issue. These will be changed every few days--those now online are from Bob Dylan, John Lennon, and Phil Ochs. And finally, because it is a central part of organizing, I also want to remind you to look at the ZNet Commentary Program Page (http://www.zmag.org/donorform.htm) and the page of hugely discounted options that we are currently offering for subscribing to Z (http://www.zmag.org/offer.htm). Each of these choices will not only bring you a much more substantial source of information and analysis than our free Updates, it will also, if you participate, help finance ZNet and all our operations. But now, in light of the fact that we are at war, mostly I want to use this (extra) ZNet Update to try to convey something that will be useful in how you address the current events. - ---- When confronting a horrible war machine if one doesn't meekly obey the mass media's marching orders, one's eyes may open very wide, and not only to immediate events, but to broader matters as well. It can be overwhelming to face the full extent of one's country's crimes. We sometimes shut down to the truth before it snags us too fully, or bog down in feelings of hopelessness about the truth we’ve admitted, or lash out in an anger that leads nowhere. The Kosovo Talking Points I sent a few days ago yielded an unexpected but huge call for more material that spoke in a similar voice. I am thus sending the following piece as a tool, I hope, to help keep us in touch with horrible facts of our world, while moving us to act on them constructively. I also hope you will stay in touch with ZNet and its Kosovo pages for more analytic and in-depth historical material. BUT, please, if you can possibly avoid it, do not reply directly to me by email. I can’t keep up with the traffic using these tools. Instead, if you want to discuss the contents of this or other writings or other matters with me or with other folks concerned about the war, why not try the ZNet public forum system meant expressly for that purpose? You can read about it and become involved via http://www.zmag.org/aboutforums.htm. Now, here is today’s content, adapted from a piece written during the Gulf War – I hope it is useful and not an imposition. - ----- Stop The Killing Train Suppose a hypothetical god got tired of what we humans do to one another and decided that from January 1, 1999 onward all corpses unnaturally created anywhere in the "free world" would cease to decompose. Anyone dying for want of food or medicine, anyone hung or garroted to death, shot or beaten to death, raped or bombed to death, anyone dying unjustly and inhumanely would, as a corpse, persist without decomposing. And the permanent corpse would then automatically enter a glass-walled cattle car attached to an ethereal train traveling monotonously across the U.S., state by state, never stopping. One by one the corpses would be loaded onto the cattle cars and after every thousand corpses piled in a new car would hitch up and begin filling too. Mile after mile the killing train would roll along, each corpse viewed through its transparent walls, 200 new corpses a minute, one new car every five minutes, day and night, without pause. By the end of 1999, on its first birthday, the first day of the new millennium, the killing train would measure over 2,000 miles long. Traveling at 20 miles an hour it would take about five days to pass any intersection. By the year 2009, assuming no dramatic change in institutions and behavior, the train would stretch from coast to coast about seven times. It would take about six weeks from the time its engine passed the Statue of Liberty to when its caboose would go by. God still wondering when pitiful, aspiring humanity would get the message. Think how a young child sometimes points to a picture in a book or magazine and asks for an explanation, "Tell me about a tree?" A car? A boat? Or a train? A big train? The killing train?" Go ahead, answer that one. If the ecologists are right that this planet is a single super-organism, they are wrong that pollution, toxic waste, and other human-created garbage is the most deadly virus attacking it. The killing train, which itself spews more of the same muck, is worse. Think about the pain that radiates from the Vietnam War monument with its 50,000 names in Washington, D.C. Imagine the lost opportunity and lost love and the network of negative influences that radiate from the unnecessary deaths enumerated on that monument. Now think about the killing train stretching from coast to coast and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Consider its impact, not only on those on board, but on every person that any of those corpses ever loved or would have loved, fed or would have fed, taught or would have taught. Who rides the killing train? Citizens of the "Third World," selling their organs for food, selling their babies to save their families, suffering disappearances and starvation. They live in Brazil, Colombia, and the Philippines, in Timor, Iraq, Mexico, and Angola, in Turkey and in New York City. They are headed for the killing train. Every day. Millions. Is this exaggerated? When 10 million children die yearly for lack of basic medical aid that the U.S. could provide at almost no cost in countries whose economies Exxon and the Bank of America have looted, what can you call it other than mass murder? Bloated diseased bodies are victims of murder just as surely as bullet-riddled bodies tossed into rivers by death squads or pierced by shrapnel from falling bombs. Denying medicine and stealing resources is ultimately no less criminal than supplying torture racks or carpet bombing whole countries. It is often more deadly. Evolution has given humans the capacity to perceive, think, feel, imagine. At a time of war—as now in the Balkans—if we get aroused to action by the unusually visible carnage we may begin to see the whole killing train as it persists day in and day out, with the carnage no less real but much less visible. When this happens what do we do about it? Become depressed? Cynical? Anguished? Cry? Daydream of Armageddon? Daydream of justice? Educate ourselves, hand out a leaflet, build a local organization? Once we begin to see this macabre train, how do we face it? Part of us says these crimes are so grotesque, so inhumane, that the perpetrators deserve to die. A little tiny killing train for the killers and no more big killing train for everyone else. An eye for a million eyes. What other step makes more sense? But of course, that's not the way the world works. People give the orders, hand out the bombs, withhold the food, pay the pitiful salaries -- but institutions create the pressures that mold these people. When an institutional cancer consumes the human patient, what kind of surgeon can cut it all away? Is the weight of repression so intense it can never be lifted? At first, becoming attuned to our country's responsibility for the corpses stacked behind transparent cattle-car walls makes handing out leaflets, or arguing for peace with a co-worker, or urging a relative to think twice about paying taxes, or going to a demonstration, or sitting in, or even doing civil disobedience or building the movements to do all these things collectively seem insignificant. But the fact is, these are the acts that the hypothetical God, tired of our behavior, would be calling for if she were to actually parade the "free world's" corpses down our main streets in killing trains. These are the acts that can accumulate into a firestorm of informed protest that then raises the cost of profiteering and dominating so high that the institutions breeding such behavior start to buckle. The fact is, "You lose, you lose, you lose, and then you win." Every loss is part of the process that leads to transforming institutions so that there can be no people as vile as Clinton or Milosevic. No more "Good Germans" or "Good Americans," cremated Jews or decapitated peasants. War in the Balkans is a horrendous crime against humanity because it rends life from and justice from civility to no benefit to any constituency other than the Masters of War. It is an orchestrated atrocity that mandates our militant, unswerving opposition. There should be no business as usual until this war is ended. But even after the Balkan War ends, the on-going U.S. and European corporate war against "free world" people destined to ride the killing train will, if it continues, remain a tremendous crime against humanity. The killing train transcends the Balkans and Turkey, Timor, Colombia, and Mexico and extends as well into the systemic denial of human fulfillment and development that is at the heart of corporate capitalist logic and practice. Ultimately, so must our opposition transcend the current events. The killing train—alienation, poverty, disease, starvation, death squads, and terror—stems from basic institutions. These must become our lasting target. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: okay! Here's Randi's *real* e-mail address.. After trying a few variations, I hit upon a painfully obvious answer. < twofangs@sympatico.ca> is Randi's new e-mail address. She just e-mailed me back to confirm this. Sorry about the mistake earlier. She may have lost everyone's e-mail address...even more reason to drop her a line. Her phone number is 416-440-1309, in case anyone wants to call. She's hard to get hold of, that girl! But perseverence pays. Carole ps: Bayard, you *do* like sushi, don't you?? ;) We Portland Fegs have plans, you know. Heh! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:02 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: oneirism >In the first part of the dream, I had gone to some sort of memorial >service with Nick Drake, who apparently was a friend of mine.[...] > The next day I was sitting in the >backyard playing my guitar and observing a tiny bird which clung to the >headstock, when the phone rang. if it's like the dream I had the other night, the bird in question was erithacus rubecula, yer European robin red-breast. (that's robin with an i, but I'm sure that those looking for messages here may find one). In my dream, though, I was trying to introduce a friend to the music of Van Morrison, but it kept sounding like Julian Cope. There was a robin sitting on a tree outside, and I remember thinking it was odd because they don't have them in New Zealand (not e.rubecula, anyway). James PS - since Danielle has seconded Eb's Arrrrrrrgh, can I third it? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:52:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Deathwatch Oliver Reed. Eb PS My GOD, The Simpsons sucked last night. That was one for the record books. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:12:30 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re: more bull & gate info eddie postulated. >well, could it have been march of '94, then? i mean, wouldn't you expect it >to have been colder in march than in august? also, was sean there? if he >was then we can be pretty certain that it was '94. march of '94, with sean >would really make a lot of sense. that would've been shortly after the soft >boys tour, and shortly before they were to have gone into the studio to make >SURFER GHOST. I have the answer- the taper told me the wrong year- he definitely said it was 8-3-93 in his letters to me but he confirms as of yesterday that ---- >robyn is definitely 8th march 1994 or possibly 7th march >i still write my dates date month year not the american way so that lays that one to rest. feg xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:17:03 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: Happy Birthday! ...Other things... At 12:15 AM 5/1/99 -0500, you wrote: >Eh, I'll agree that HOMICIDE has slipped from its third-season peak, but >all the actors hired since then (including Jon Seda, and especially the >now-departed Reed Diamond, whose Kellerman was a real gem) Yuck, yuck, yuck! Alex and I hated Kellerman--he offered nothing to the show, his acting was weak, he was dull, dull, dull! he's the only character I was glad to see leave. I miss Andre and I was worried what would happen after he left but this season I think they're getting back on track. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:12:11 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: this is the most horrible thing I've read in quite awhile - --- amadain wrote: > Um, I'm not trying to make light of this at all, but > I had to ask- I'm not > the only one thinking of Sid V. And Nancy Spungem > (sp?) right about now, am> I? Yep. Especially when she was calling "Chris! "Chris!" Except in the movie it was more like "Siiid! Siiiid!" sp.= Spungen, as in Spungen off other's fame and fortune. Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:52:19 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RIP 20C >April 29, 1999 > > LOVE AND ROCKETS ANNOUNCE BREAKUP; WILL PERFORM FAREWELL SHOWS IN > L.A. ON MAY 9 & 10 > > Los Angeles, CA - After fourteen years, seven albums and millions of albums sold, the critically > respected, pioneering British trio Love And Rockets, have announced their decision to disband. > Coming on the heels of their most recent album, the highly acclaimed Lift, a sold-out North > American club run and the auspicious one-off reunion tour of the original Bauhaus lineup, Daniel > Ash, David J and Kevin Haskins have determined the time to be right to explore other creative > avenues. After a string of dates on the West Coast starting on May 2, Love And Rockets will > perform their farewell show in Los Angeles on May 9 and 10 at the Roxy Theater. > > "I have thoroughly enjoyed working with both Daniel and David over the years," comments Kevin > Haskins, drummer for Love And Rockets as well as Bauhaus and Tones on Tail, an offshoot group > formed by he and Daniel. "But for right now, we all feel it's time to move on and pursue individual > projects," which for Kevin will include composing, remixing and programming in the audiovisual > field. > > Guitarist/vocalist Daniel Ash, meanwhile, plans to work on film scores and spearhead other > collaborative efforts, which to date, remain unspecified. Commenting on the amicable split, Daniel > says: "It's been great working with Kev and Dave over the last twenty years. The Love And Rockets > triangle has always been very special and we all feel we are ending on a high note." > > Bassist David J, who in addition to Love And Rockets and Bauhaus, has in the past worked with the > legendary Jazz Butcher on several projects, will pursue a solo career and further plans to team up > with other musicians on future unnamed projects. In a closing statement he said: "Thanks to > everyone who has supported us and shared our journey. The path has forked and here's to the > future, new century, new horizons, new vision, and new music." - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:49:58 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Deathwatch > Oliver Reed. Best Performance: Ken Russell's "The Devils" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:21:39 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: the grinning reaper to the members of the Celebrity Deathwatch: and you thought you were being morbid... http://www.interlog.com/~ambrozic/pool.html ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: the grinning reaper On Mon, 3 May 1999, Zloduska wrote: > to the members of the Celebrity Deathwatch: > and you thought you were being morbid... > http://www.interlog.com/~ambrozic/pool.html Well... http://www.stiffs.com/querylist99.cfm?listid=2251 Yeah, I AM going to feel bad about making money off of Joe. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:17:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Name that instrument! So it's slow on the fegmaniax list? Time to play another fun-filled round of "name that instrument"!!! I'll name a song with a Wacky Instrument (tm) and you tell me what it is! It's that thing that sounds like a small reed instrument in "When I was Dead". I'll start you all off with 50 points. Ready.... Go! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #165 *******************************