From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #159 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, April 28 1999 Volume 08 : Number 159 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: GSS, unhealthy threads, one last plea about the turtle, Benderama ["C] Re: GSS, unhealthy threads, one last plea about the turtle, Benderama ["C] because I know folks are interested... [Eb ] the long and winding post [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] RE: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms [Capuchin ] stupid fact of the week [Natalie Jacobs ] RE: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms [Danielle ] tom waits quoted in 4/21 ava ["Capitalism Blows" ] unhealthy ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms [Joel Mullins ] Re: ' + ' [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Oh Boy! A chance for me to relate meaningless star-fucking by proxy! [MARKEEFE@aol.co] Hope I'm not interrupting... ["Marc Holden" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:04:08 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: GSS, unhealthy threads, one last plea about the turtle, Benderama mm-hm. let me hear him denounce state intervention on behalf of the fucking owners -- which phenomenon so far outweighs intervention on behalf of a few poor people that it's...shit, i can't even find the words to describe how silly it is to discuss them in the same breath. *sigh* well, it's better than King Of The Hill has become, i'll give you that much. but i guess Futurama is destined to be one of these shows that everybody else loves, while i just don't get it. Ren And Stimpy and Mystery Science Theater 3000 are two notable others. lord knows i've *tried* to like those shows, but they just bore the fuck out of me. by the way, why do people keep writing *me* offlist asking why *capuchin* won't answer their mail? what am i, his damned mother? he doesn't answer my mail either half the time. that's just the way he is. if you've a problem with it (which i personally do not), take it up with *him*, okay? or take it up with .chris. http://leb.net/iac/ "...the people who in most places in the world provide opposition leadership are, here in America, holed up in academic sinecures arguing about the ethics of lunch and whether or not to hire an immigrant maid. The two-party dictatorship is literally destroying the country and Clinton is the worst president we've ever had -- much worse than Nixon and Reagan combined on everything from the environment to social and economic policy, and where's the left? Sitting by the phone hoping to get on one of those Dead White Man TV talk panels....frankly, these days every time I even see a copy of The Nation, In These Times, or, worst of all, Mother Jones, I feel like punching the first pony tailed, nasal whinnying, Virtual Asseted, public-radioed, candy-assed, so-called leftist who comes through my door. Unfortunately, they come through my door all the time and I'm too old and physically decrepit to carry out a decent physical assault. It's all very frustrating." --Bruce Anderson, Anderson Valley Advertiser _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:05:14 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: GSS, unhealthy threads, one last plea about the turtle, Benderama mm-hm. let me hear him denounce state intervention on behalf of the fucking owners -- which phenomenon so far outweighs intervention on behalf of a few poor people that it's...shit, i can't even find the words to describe how silly it is to discuss them in the same breath. *sigh* well, it's better than King Of The Hill has become, i'll give you that much. but i guess Futurama is destined to be one of these shows that everybody else loves, while i just don't get it. Ren And Stimpy and Mystery Science Theater 3000 are two notable others. lord knows i've *tried* to like those shows, but they just bore the fuck out of me. by the way, why do people keep writing *me* offlist asking why *capuchin* won't answer their mail? what am i, his damned mother? he doesn't answer my mail either half the time. that's just the way he is. if you've a problem with it (which i personally do not), take it up with *him*, okay? or take it up with .chris. http://leb.net/iac/ "...the people who in most places in the world provide opposition leadership are, here in America, holed up in academic sinecures arguing about the ethics of lunch and whether or not to hire an immigrant maid. The two-party dictatorship is literally destroying the country and Clinton is the worst president we've ever had -- much worse than Nixon and Reagan combined on everything from the environment to social and economic policy, and where's the left? Sitting by the phone hoping to get on one of those Dead White Man TV talk panels....frankly, these days every time I even see a copy of The Nation, In These Times, or, worst of all, Mother Jones, I feel like punching the first pony tailed, nasal whinnying, Virtual Asseted, public-radioed, candy-assed, so-called leftist who comes through my door. Unfortunately, they come through my door all the time and I'm too old and physically decrepit to carry out a decent physical assault. It's all very frustrating." --Bruce Anderson, Anderson Valley Advertiser _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:42:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: because I know folks are interested... I now hear that the Captain Beefheart boxset on Revenant has been delayed until June 22nd. Can't remember the release date for the Rhino one, but that's coming too. "Sports Night" continues to rock my world (while "Futurama" continues to make me sleeeeeepy), Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:40:41 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: the long and winding post Dear Forum, I have always laughed at the letters that you get, just discarding them as staph writers who had better imaginations than spelling and usage language skills. Then one day it happened. I had just dropped the DNA samples of two friends I'll call "Blowz" and "Cappuccy" to determine if, indeed, Cappuccy was the son or daughter of Blows, or the 1989 Denver Broncos. I then went to go hunting with my father, played by Jimmy Durante, who may have been Darth Vader, but probably not- saying, "Dag nabit Luke, use the force." He gave me my gun and told me never to hurt people with it, unless I was defending my right to bear arms from godless motherless commie bastards, but that I should kill animals with it because they were all pinkos. Eventually, after stepping over some guy who was "looking for wild mushrooms," and really should have been in Canada figuring out all the chords to Robyn Hitchcock tunes because that clown with the legendarily liliputian brain in Santa Cruz won't figure out chords on his guitars 'cause he's saving them all for "that bunny girl...," I came to a clearing. There I saw a buck or a doe or doh or do or some other note. I readied myself. Brought the gun to my eyes. The animal looked at me with his/her bedroom eyes. I tried to squeeze the trigger, but couldn't. Suddenly I threw down the gun and we both raced toward each other. I shed my "unhealthy threads," as my friends call them, making fun of my fashion crimes, in less time than you can say, "the gubmint is out ta git me." We had just completed seconds, perhaps minutes, of making wild and passionate interspecies pansexual intercourse and smoking countless cigarettes, stogies, and bananas when I accidentally kicked my backpack over and the bagels spilled out, rolling around like so many burning tires down the frozen highways of the canyons of your mind. Then out rolled my prized jar of pickled quails feet. Upon seeing them, my sweet companion lost his/her state of arousal. Quite frankly became disgusted, mopped up and ran away. I hurredly put away the jar, and called for her/ him, but I could only coax the deer into a cuddle or two before she/he raced off only to get plugged in some other way by my Dad. I'm assuming it was some other way. I cried as we hitched the buck/doe to the front of our family stretch Gremlin/Hummer/Citroen hybrid. I was so hoping that this was the lifetime companion of which I had been dreaming all my life. We could huddle in my bomb shelter, clutching our various weaponry, listening to my favorite "freedom radio" hosts yell about Clinton imposing martial law over the shortwave while we sat in front of the fluorescent light emanating from what was originally an easy bake oven, now activated by The Clapper, as seen on tv. Now I sit here alone with tears streaming down my cheeks, moistening the ink of the DNA results which decree that Blowz actually _is_ Cappuccy's mother and the 1989 Denver Broncos is his dad, while chewing on venison jerky, pickled quails feet, soiled bagels, and an occasional olive. In any case, this is all true. By the time you read this, the story will probably be on the cover of the Weekly World News. Higgory Piggory Hickory Feggory III borrowing some stupid pinko's computer (submitted via the internet) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Ross Overbury wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, GSS wrote: > > Some mentioned hearing that there is no > > age limit for a person to by a handgun, that is wrong. In Texas, the age > > for puchasing a rifle is 18 and a handgun is 21. > Harris was 18. What now? What do you know about that? A grown up fuck-up! I always thought people magically became intelligent and responsible at some particular chronological age! Personally, I'd say we drop all age requirements and put everything up for examination... like driving, but without THAT age requirement either. I've got this whole plan, but after typing it out, I realized that folks would just continue to call me a fascist, so I dropped it. Wanna here? Let me know. I'll post it publicly if you want. > > Most kids growing up in > > the area were I grew up, had full access to all kinds of firearms. > I honestly don't know the answer to this, but we ought to wonder > if there's a correlation between gun culture and the misuse of > firearms. Most of the kids growing up in my area had no access > to firearms. Well, there's certainly a correlation between car culture and the misuse of automobiles. Same goes with drunk culture and the misuse of alcohol. In fact, everything that can be used is misused more often in places where it is readily available. Huh. Whodathunkit. Does that mean we should get rid of things that are misused? Nope. Dig this: On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, JH3 wrote: > isn't it just because the concerns of American reactionaries (or libertarians, > or whatever) are different from those of British reactionaries? What the FUCK?!? AAAAAAAARRRRGGHHH!!! Oh... wait. I just realized I could be misconstruing this. But let me make something superabundantly clear: Libertarians are the least reactionary bunch imaginable. Watching a one in a million chance random high school shooting spree and calling for the ban of fire arms or video games or whatever is reactionary. Embracing freedom in all of its ugly possibility is the most liberal point of view one can take. I'm sick of people who want less personal freedom being called "liberals". Makes my skin crawl. And yes, eddie, I'd LOVE to see the government stop bailing out big business. Back to my dear friend Ross: > For years I've foraged for wild edibles in the woods. More than once > I've heard the crack of a rifle and wondered if I wasn't going to > be mistaken for a deer. You know what? When I was a kid, I was playing in a stream in a forest with my brother. He was skipping rocks in the opposite direction. I thought I heard one bounce off of a boulder when I felt it ricochet against my head. I blacked out and fell into the water. Turns out it wasn't a rock from my brother's hand at all. My brother heard a gun shot and turned around in time to see me spin and fall. I like to believe it was an accident. I have a small scar, hard lump of scar tissue on the left side of my forehead. A little to the left and I'd've had a sort of sidehatch lobotomy. Maybe it was some drunk huntsman deciding to pick off a little kid from his truck before he pulled away, never to be seen again. I have no idea. I'm just sharing a story. I totally understand your fear, Ross. But you know what? It almost never happens. Don't worry too much. You're in much more danger driving back to your suburb. > You can't legislate responsibility, can you? You can limit the > availability of appliances whose principal purpose is to kill. > Please explain the necessity of semi automatic weapons to the average > citizen. How about those ones that convert easily to automatic? > > The Redcoats aren't at the door anymore, and the average > person gets meat from the grocery store. As eddie is so fond of pointing out, the US government perpetrates atrocities just about weekly. It's absolutely vital that people protect themselves from what may come. I am totally with Greg when he says: > > When the pigs and national guard etc.. give up their guns, then and > > only then should the rest of America give up theirs. Also Ross: > You use firearms to address a problem with the national guard or > the pigs (by whom I assume you mean law-enforcement types), and > you think you'll solve that problem? If you didn't mean that, > just exactly what did you mean? I think that's exactly what he means. Look at what happened in Waco. Fucking overarmed police came in and tore up a bunch of folks that were just hangin' out being weird. Now, it just so happens that a whole lot of folks were opposed to their brand of weirdness, so the ATF and FBI waltzed in and blew the shit out of them. And if you fight back, they bring in more tanks and bigger guns than are legal for citizens to own. And you're fucked. I don't believe in violence and I don't want to ever see it happen, but rarely the People's Army always fires the first shot. Ruby fucking Ridge. You may disagree with those folks' politics (just like Waco or wherever else), but they certainly don't deserve to be shot down in their homes because of it. On reactionaries again: Technology moves forward. New things are made and some of them are dangerous and some of them are helpful and most of them are both. There's the old line about holding a tool the right way... or Larry Niven's notion that any propulsion system is a weapon held backward. New technology is a responsibility and a burden. We cannot unlearn. We will not be able to eliminate the weapons that have been invented. We can only learn to understand and integrate them. If the kids in Colorado hadn't had access to guns, they'd've built more pipe bombs. So what? Ban steel? Ban sulfur? Ban charcoal? How about flour and sugar and salt petre? There are millions of easy ways to kill people. People who want to destroy will always have the means and opportunity. Here I go spilling too much: I wore a stupid black trenchcoat in high school. I thought about setting traps and blowing things up and all that other shit. Hell, every time I'm in the mall, I think about leaping off of the fourth story railing into the foyer and landing on the unsuspecting shoppers below... or maybe just in the fountain. When I walk across the bridge, I think about jumping... or pushing someone else off or into traffic. People think weird shit. The point is to know what you just don't do... how to act. It's been said a million times that you can't legislate morality or responsibility. And we try, for sure we try. Put a cop on every corner and wire kids to convulse and throw up at the sight of violence or weapons. Remove all freedom in every way you know how and someone will still find a way to go postal. And we'll all be in prison for the crimes of very very few. I'd rather see crazy people go free than innocent people put away. Freedom means life to me. Why is illegal to smoke in public in California? Why must you wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle or a seatbelt in your car? Is that to protect you from being stupid? Hell no! That's to protect the people around you from your stupidity. You wear a seatbelt or a helmet so that when you fuck up or a genuine accident occurs, some poor schmuck (or your insurance company or theirs) doesn't get stuck with a massive bill that could have been avoided if you'd taken one tiny precautionary measure. It's important to distinguish between laws that protect people from themselves and laws that protect people from other people. And every law that has ever been written should carefully protect the people from the government, the biggest bully of them all. I'm done with my liberal fascist ranting. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:06:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Christopher Gross wrote: > jmbc wrote: > >Why are you a Robyn Hitchcock fan? I ask that in all seriousness. > Whoah! This is not a healthy trend. > if you think about it calmly, I'm sure you'll agree > that I'm right on this one. I'm completely with you on this one, Chris. Wholeheartedly. jbmc was way way way out of line. The whole post had an air of hostility that Fegmaniax does not need. Name calling and argument dismissal is just bait and flame material. Ignore it or write something intelligent explaining your side. Words. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Just me. On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > by the way, why do people keep writing *me* offlist asking why > *capuchin* won't answer their mail? what am i, his damned mother? > he doesn't answer my mail either half the time. that's just the way > he is. if you've a problem with it (which i personally do not), take > it up with *him*, okay? or take it up with .chris. I haven't laughed this hard in months. I love you, eddie. I've been really sick. Feeling better now. Sorry everyone. Oh...and more notes on the shitty tone of a couple of recent posts: I've said some really nasty things about some people on and off list. Some of those I meant with all of my heart and others I make me more sorry than I know how to express (I hope you know who you are). But name calling and bitterness are just plain mean and pointless. Speaking of pointless... J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: stupid fact of the week The little extra toe on the leg of a dog, cat, or quail is called a dew-claw. Thank you. n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: RE: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms Breaking my silence to say: all right then. Here we go 'round the mulberry bush, Jeme. I apologise in advance for sounding like a snotty bitch, but anyway... > Well, there's certainly a correlation between car culture > and the misuse > of automobiles. Same goes with drunk culture and the > misuse of alcohol. > In fact, everything that can be used is misused more > often in places where > it is readily available. Huh. Whodathunkit. > > Does that mean we should get rid of things that are > misused? Nope. Ah, but that's precisely the point. Those guns *weren't* misused. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't guns actually designed to kill people (and animals)? They certainly did *that* job superbly. > Oh... wait. I just realized I could be misconstruing > this. But let me > make something superabundantly clear: > Libertarians are the least reactionary bunch imaginable. Well, technically a 'reactionary' is a person who would like to return to the political/social ideals of yesteryear. Since libertarianism is based, in the most fundamental sense, on the ideals of Jeffersonian liberal democracy, it really is a reactionary movement, with some minor updates. > Embracing freedom in all of its ugly > possibility is the most > liberal point of view one can take. By the old-fashioned conception of 'liberal democracy', yes. > I'm sick of people who want less personal freedom being > called "liberals". > Makes my skin crawl. However, the word 'liberal' has changed its meaning slightly over the past 200 or so years. Hence the confusion. And Jeme's uncomfortable dermatological complaint. > As eddie is so fond of pointing out, the US government > perpetrates > atrocities just about weekly. It's absolutely vital that > people protect > themselves from what may come. My American father sleeps with a loaded handgun beside his bed. The government hasn't come for him yet. However, he nearly shot my then boyfriend my mistake. Needless to say, said boyfriend was not an agent of the US government (or New Zealand's government, or any government, for that matter). You know, after the Port Arthur massacre in Australia a few years back, the Australian government (which had rather strict gun control anyway) banned semi-automatic weapons. Oddly enough, the other liberties that Australian citizens enjoy have not been eroded. What were they supposed to be protecting themselves from again? > And if you fight back, > they bring in > more tanks and bigger guns than are legal for citizens to > own. And you're > fucked. By that particular rationale, owning a gun is pointless anyway. If you're 'fucked' even though you own one, why own it at all? And if this is true, why do you contradict yourself later by saying that those who want to kill will always find a way? (That ought to be a relief, of course. *They'll* protect us from the government!) > New technology is a responsibility and a burden. We > cannot unlearn. We > will not be able to eliminate the weapons that have been > invented. We can > only learn to understand and integrate them. I don't believe anyone was advocating 'uninventing' anything. However, one of the more fundamental ways one can 'integrate' semi-automatic weapons into a healthy society is to *regulate ownership*. > If the kids in Colorado hadn't had access to guns, > they'd've built more > pipe bombs. So what? Ban steel? Ban sulfur? Ban > charcoal? How about > flour and sugar and salt petre? There are millions of > easy ways to kill > people. People who want to destroy will always have the > means and > opportunity. I agree. However, I've said this before: Australia and New Zealand may have the highest teen suicide rates in the world, but *somehow*, *some way*, our teens have managed to avoid SLAUGHTERING EACH OTHER WITH SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS! Do you think, perhaps, that gun control laws could have just a smidge to do with that? If these pathetic little idiots have to rely on knives or fists or relatively unreliable pipe bombs instead, so be it. They're going to kill fewer people, and I think that's the primary goal. And in a pinch they can still protect us from the government, so we'll all be safe in our beds. > Put a cop on every corner and wire kids to convulse and > throw up at the > sight of violence or weapons. Remove all freedom in > every way you know > how and someone will still find a way to go postal. 'Remove all freedom'? This is a *retarded* argument. Listen, New Zealand has gun control laws. And yet we somehow manage to have a Bill of Rights and protest marches and pro-choice legislation, etcetera, and no one I know has ever been shot by a government agent for saying that Jenny Shipley sucks big ones. Moreover, hunters still hunt, and people still manage to kill each other in all kinds of ways, so gun control laws haven't stopped them from 'embracing freedom'. Bless those rebels. Fewer people die, though. Per capita. Something to think about. Danielle, thinking that a little insularity is a dangerous thing _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:27:21 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: tom waits quoted in 4/21 ava "Do you know how many teardrops it takes to fill up a teaspoon? A hundred and twenty, actually. I tested it. I was very sad and I thought, I'm going to make some use of it, so I held a spoon at my cheek and I cried. This is my science project for the year." Bridge On The River Kwai *and* olivia tremor control tonight! and i wanted to say a few words about Lawrence Of Arabia, but don't know if i'll have the time. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:40:20 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: unhealthy Ouch, I'm licking wounds. But still feeling rather self-righteous. I've got a lot of work on now, so will be responding more fully soon. But, for the nonce. Quail, GSS is not >a true libertarian<, and not only for the reason outlined by Cap Blows. I also think that you and others have overlooked the hostility in GSS's own posts, and rather overstated that in mine, and have also ignored the at least mildly rigorous way I've dealt with the points in his 'arguments'. Yes, Quail, I do think GSS is a poor thinker. Other people seem to have recently demonstrated this point fairly well , and some have done it better than I have (Ross for example) But to imply, as I think you have, that I'm just being rude without any intellectual back-up seems pretty wide of the mark to me. Perhaps as a newbie I have to pay a few more dues. After all my posts don't seem to contain any more rancour or vitriol than a lot of exchanges I've seen over the last year or so. Replies also still seem to miss the point rather. Do I come across as so ignorant that I need lectures about the fact that people can like artists they don't agree with politically/personally? Perhaps my favourite singer ever is Elvis Presley. I don't think I would have lasted five minutes with him as a bloke. Isn't anyone interested in the whys and wherefores of this, regardless of the fact that I may have been clumsy in the way I asked the question. >Libertarians are the least reactionary bunch imaginable< Well, if you think you can have your cake and eat it, certainly. Insensitive But Basically Good-Hearted Elvis. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:40:22 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: recantation/nuck/beer/colorado/firearms Capuchin wrote: > I'd've had a sort of sidehatch lobotomy. I don't think I've ever seen someone use two apostrophes in the same word before. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:28:57 PDT From: "D B" Subject: Re: Frosty the Gunman >Personally, I think Frosted Wheaties and other sugared cereals are far >too accessible to kids. They really shouldn't be eating that much >sugar. In fact, I've heard that kids can get sugared cereals easier >than they can get guns. Now that's scary. And while I'm pretty sure they don't do so anymore, there was a few years back at least one of the more prominent cereal companies that gave away handguns in exchange for numerous boxtops of their products. Thus the bastardized term "serial" killer came about... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:30:55 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: ' + ' In a message dated 99-04-28 19:48:59 EDT, you write: << > I'd've had a sort of sidehatch lobotomy. I don't think I've ever seen someone use two apostrophes in the same word before. >> I don't know . . . I wouldn't've pointed that out if I were you! Why, you ask? . . . well, I guess it was the onyl thing I could think of to say where I'd get to use another double-apostrophed word. That's fun. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:44:51 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh Boy! A chance for me to relate meaningless star-fucking by proxy! In a message dated 99-04-28 11:18:14 EDT, you write: << He also wove his shoelaces into a checkerboard pattern. Whoa. >> Could you diagram that out in some way . . . I'm having a hard time picturing this particular shoe-tyin' methodology. Myself, I subscribe to the European lacing method, so all you see is nice, straight, horizontal shoelace lines . . . except for tennis shoes. I mean, that'd be really pretentious. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:11:29 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Hope I'm not interrupting... Hey there, I know you're all caught up in constructing a profile of at risk = youth, the music that will set them off, and how to "psycho-proof" the = world in general, so sorry to break in with a question (I'm just funnin' = you here, so don't get too bent out of shape, okay?). I got a copy of the Give It To The Soft Boys EP today that was signed = by Robyn, Andy, and Morris (unfortunately no Alan Davies on here). Robyn = wrote a fairly lengthy note that cover almost the entire front, "Reach = back the hand of history **** ("Todd" was scratched out) 'Brad' & you've = got Andy's arm --> (points to the arm on the sleeve) & Sue's nipple --> = (points to Sue's nipple)." So anyway, any idea who this SUE is? I have another copy of the EP that Robyn signed for me, where he = wrote SORRY! and then made a little sketch of what had been planned for = the cover (a couple embracing). He really seemed less than thrilled with = the issued sleeve.=20 By the way, I agree, we should avoid all that negative music, and = listen to the Beach Boys and Beatles (and smoke a lot of dope)--just ask = Charlie Manson. Good thing he wasn't listening to a disc with BONUS = TRACKS--he might have done something really crazy.=20 Catch you later, Marc n.p.--Residents--Hell!; Soft Boys--1976--81 (disc 1); Frank = Zappa--Waka/Jawaka; Oingo Boingo--Dark at the End of the Tunnel; Rolling = Stones--Out of Their Heads ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #159 *******************************