From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #147 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, April 21 1999 Volume 08 : Number 147 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Dream, etc., etc. [Joel Mullins ] reap [Eb ] Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... ["Capitalism Blows"] collage is the greatest of all the arts ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Marmalade [Bayard ] Hi there Children of the Millenium ["Chris Huff / Linda Pierson " ] Re: Marmalade [Eb ] My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists [amadain ] Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists [Joel Mullins ] Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Dream, etc., etc. JH3 wrote: > > Joel M. writes: > >Anyway, I recognized you guys and said hi, and then one > >feg (who looked like he should've been on the WB) pointed to some cute > >young blonde and said to me, "Go get her man." > >"You think I should fuck her?" I asked. > >"No," he replied. "You should sue her." > > He wanted you to get her man by suing her? Would the man be part of > the legal settlement, then? Sorry, that should've been "Go get her, man." He was calling me "man." > And later: > >Basically, it's like this: Anytime I hear about a band, the first thing > >I do is mail you guys and get some feedback. > > So *that's* why Joel is outposting everyone else these days! Am I outposting everyone? The reason is probably that I am doing anything I can to help me put off all the shit I really need to be doing. > I'm sure we're all flattered, but I should probably point out > that this list is probably not the be-all-&-end-all of musical > knowledge. Well, I don't think it is either. But it is a good place to find out some quick information. RealAudio is another good place. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:26:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap So I hear that professional wrestler Ravishing Rick Rude died of a heart attack. Boy...first Jimmy Durante, now this. Washboard tummies = death. Remember that, kiddies.... Heard the new Frank Black today. Disappointing. His new "old-fashioned rock 'n' roll band, live in the studio" ethic isn't going to take him very far. Fluffy Eb, living in a cave, waiting for the good Knights to arrive ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:12:26 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... the sentiment is fine. but i find it remarkable that you, of all people, would say this, eb. any time somebody mentions some artist that they consider worthwhile, if you've not heard them yet, you go out of your way to make sure everybody knows that you're not *going* to hear them, ever. because, i suppose, you'd consider it an affront to your more-knowledgeable/more-hipper-than-thou aura. if an artist is worth hearing, eb's already heard it. if eb hasn't already heard it, it isn't worth hearing. i love ya, eb. love ya to death. and i don't even give a fuck that you have constructed this impermeable wall around yourself. doesn't affect me any. but you shouldn't profess to be something other than what you are, should you? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:17:14 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: collage is the greatest of all the arts you talk about harmonic fucking convergence! the next week or so in seattle shapes up like this: tomorrow -- huge (hopefully) march to protest the war imean, "regional conflict." friday, saturday -- Lawrence Of Arabia sunday -- man or astroman? monday -- sunny day real estate, Dr. Strangelove tuesday -- Dr. Strangelove wednesday -- Bridge On The River Kwai, olivia tremor control thursday -- WESLEY WILLIS!!!!!! friday -- evaporators (nardwuar the human serviette's band) saturday -- may day np, u. utah phillips, I'VE GOT TO KNOW (the best anti-war album i know of). _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:42:26 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... eddie: >the sentiment is fine. but i find it remarkable that you, of all >people, would say this, eb. any time somebody mentions some artist >that they consider worthwhile, if you've not heard them yet, you go >out of your way to make sure everybody knows that you're not *going* >to hear them, ever. because, i suppose, you'd consider it an affront >to your more-knowledgeable/more-hipper-than-thou aura. if an artist >is worth hearing, eb's already heard it. if eb hasn't already heard >it, it isn't worth hearing. Not true at all. It's not impossible that someone else turns me onto an artist. Hell, someone else turned me onto that Owsley disc which I recently mentioned. Such things just haven't happened much via this particular forum. Maybe if folks had posted about the Lonesome Organist *before* I introduced the subject myself.... I did somewhat "give in" to the last Elliott Smith disc, for whatever that's worth. Though I wouldn't necessarily attribute that to this list, per se. Anyway, you don't have to actually *hear* an artist to get a decent sense of what his/her music is about, if you read a few profiles, check the label, note the artist's peer group, observe who has been praising the artist, etc. I can read the tea leaves quite well, at this point. Really, I think all this boils down to is that you're still miffed that Chris Chandler didn't interest me. Eb PS Pajama party at Viv's tonight! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:43:42 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... First of all, I just want to point out that I used this same subject line myself about 8 months ago. (I'm too lazy to look up the exact date. And, like Joel, I'm also too lazy to do whatever it is I actually *should* be doing, so here we go...) >be less obstinant in their tastes, and be more open to musical tips.> >the sentiment is fine. but i find it remarkable that you, of all >people, would say this, eb. any time somebody mentions some artist >that they consider worthwhile, if you've not heard them yet, you go >out of your way to make sure everybody knows that you're not *going* >to hear them, ever... Y'know, Eddie, you shouldn't be so hard on Eb here. This could just be a question of semantics, right? I mean, there's no such word as "obstinant" in the English language, so he could have meant almost anything in that sentence! Sure, maybe he meant to use the word "obstinate," but Eb is a writer so he *must* know how to spell words like that, right? And for all we know, "open to musical tips" could actually mean that Viv should be willing to receive bits of music - say, CD singles or bootleg Dead cassettes - in lieu of actual cash gratuities, assuming she's a waitress or something along those lines, which AFAIK she isn't, but maybe Eb doesn't know that. So... be nice! Of course, I shouldn't talk about semantics and spelling issues; I misspelled the word "building" in my last post, but then again I'm not a writer, am I? I'm not sure *what* the hell I am at this point. A major annoyance, at the very least. >...i don't even give a fuck that >you have constructed this impermeable wall around yourself. Uranium bullets could get through, surely? (heh heh... just kidding.) John "Hoping to be promoted to General Annoyance soon" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:50 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Jacob Lurch from : RT) Well, we're gonna get to some more music, but here what about another question? This is a good one, because you were talking about your dysfunctional childhood. Bill and Anna who e-mail us from lord knows where want to know if Mucky the Pig and Mr. Moose are allusions to your childhood or illusions from your adulthood? RH) Ha ha ha_oh wow. You guys are too bright for my own good. Oh, well I saw another one, someone asking about if the pig was called Mucky. Mucky the pig was a plastic pig that my daughter had when she was about three, a plastic squeaky pig. RT) Daughter Maisy. RH) That's my daughter. I have no other. RT) How old is daughter Maisy now? RH) Ha ha. Daughter Maisy is almost as old as me. She's twenty. She's going to France with her boyfriend next week, who's French. RT) And you look worried. RH) I'm not worried about that. He's great, actually, he's really good. She may_I hope she's gonna learn some French over there. She hasn't learned the languages properly, anyway, she'll have to have there. Anyway, when Maisy was not twenty but three, she had this little pig called Mucky which squeaked. So, natch, wanting to make incisive biting contemporary observations on the way British society was going in the early stages of Thatcherism, I wrote "Mucky the Pig is out on a limb." And what was the other one? Mr. Moose? RT) Mr. Moose. RH) Mr. Moose was in Faulty Towers I think. It's the one where the Moose's head falls off on the_ RT) Oh, that one! RH) And the waiter smacks him and goes `naughty.' Isn't he called Mr. Moose? RT) I think so. RH) I was just had Jacob Lurch, Mr. Moose, and Ghandi. [actually, i think he says: "Jacob Lurch, Mr. Moose, and Gandy," and then quickly corrects himself, "er, Dandy." --et] Jacob Lurch is featured in a forthcoming book, story of mine. Jacob Lurch is from the future; Mr. Moose is in the past. Sometimes you get confused and they just run the other way. From: Joel Mullins Reply-To: Joel Mullins To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Jacob Lurch Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:43:29 -0700 So, I was listening to Queen Elvis earlier today (for the first time in probably a year) and I noticed that Robyn mentions Jacob Lurch in Wax Doll. I can't possibly be the only person who has noticed this. However, I haven't seen anyone mention it. Does anyone know what Robyn's novel is about or who Jacob Lurch is or what the connection between the novel and Wax Doll is? Has this already been discussed in detail on the list? Was I sick that day? Joel _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:13:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Marmalade Unabashed Ebster: > Anyway, you don't have to actually *hear* an artist to get a decent sense > of what his/her music is about, if you read a few profiles, check the > label, note the artist's peer group, observe who has been praising the > artist, etc. I can read the tea leaves quite well, at this point. Isn't this simply prejudice? Music is to be experienced, not analyzed second-hand, no? Though I don't necessarily doubt your musical radar; but how do you know it's accurate if you dismiss the band based on the above factors? You hear them years later at some L.A. scenester naked pajama party? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:19:03 -0500 From: "Chris Huff / Linda Pierson " Subject: Hi there Children of the Millenium Hello, all. This is my first time posting. I don't know anyone who is as into Robyn as I am, so I think I've earned my chair at this club. >At 08:21 AM 4/19/99 -0600, hal brandt wrote: >>Jane's always reminded me of Led Zeppelin. Listen to "Jane Says" and see >>if you don't think so. > >"Jane Says" always reminded me of the Velvet Underground -- music-wise and >title-wise. "Mountain Song," now that's yer Zep influence. > >Of course, "reminded me of Led Zeppelin" isn't always an insult in my book, >either. But let's keep that can of trout shut, shall we? I always thought Jane's Addiction was like the 80's Zeppelin - "Summertime Rolls" was really the only song I thought stood up to stuff like The Rain Song - anybody who doesn't like Zeppelin is really fooling themselves. Oops - - opened the trout can - humblest apologies. As to this whole thing with the top albums list, why not? Sounds like fun. I always liked reading that kind of stuff, new music, etc. Are we going to post our faves here or will it be a fegmania.org kind of thing? And to the EYE - IODOT controversy: It's like saying you like the sun better than the moon, or vice versa. You like snails better than calamari. You like scungilli better than scallops. You like tiny little twigs better than maple leafs rotting in a gutter somewhere on the Lower East Side of Cerebral Cortex lane halfway down a marble spinning top inside a elevator baking ceramic in a kiln underneath Vivien's parents. But I digress. Nice to be here, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:19:19 -0500 From: "Chris Huff / Linda Pierson " Subject: Re: Syd Barrett >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Griffith Davies wrote: >> Does anyone know where I can locate the Syd Barrett >> CD's (Barrett, Mad Cap Laughs, Opel)with the bonus >> tracks from someplace other than CDnow? > >If you're near a Tower Records, they should have the box set - which is >called "Crazy Diamond" I think, someone correct me..............it has all >the CD's with the bonus tracks.... > >Hi, by the way, I'm new and it's nice to be here. > >Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:38:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Marmalade >Unabashed Ebster: > >> Anyway, you don't have to actually *hear* an artist to get a decent sense >> of what his/her music is about, if you read a few profiles, check the >> label, note the artist's peer group, observe who has been praising the >> artist, etc. I can read the tea leaves quite well, at this point. > >Isn't this simply prejudice? Music is to be experienced, not analyzed >second-hand, no? Though I don't necessarily doubt your musical radar; but >how do you know it's accurate if you dismiss the band based on the above >factors? I don't entirely dismiss an artist based on the above -- I'm just much more prone to look elsewhere, at someone more inviting. >You hear them years later at some L.A. scenester naked pajama party? Man, every naked scenester pajama party I go to, there's no music talk at ALL. It's just sex, sex, sex, sex. Squirting nozzles here, quivering pouches there. Phooey. Hopefully, Viv's will be different. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:41:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists Goddamn it, why does the list have to explode right when I switch jobs and don't have a lot of time to write or read e-mail anymore? grr... OK, Top 10, 20, 40 lists. I hate these little suckers. And it's not 'cos I have ovaries or share an astrological sign with Viv. I hate 'em because they impart virtually no information. So... I see here that you rank "Bryter Layter" three slots above "Doc at the Radar Station." Um... OK. This tells me nothing about either album, only that you like one better than the other. No, what I'm looking for is *annotated* lists. I want to see explanations of why you like the album and what makes it special for you. They don't have to be ranked. I can't rank things worth a damn, myself. But some sort of annotation conveys much more meaningful information than simply ranking things. I see "Pet Sounds" at the top of tons of lists, but I don't know *why* it's so great, I just know that a lot of people like it. But if such a list contained an explanation as well as a rank, maybe.... just maybe... I might go and check it out. This is not to say that I would like to see the Feglist flooded with annotated Top Whatever lists, but an offlist compilation might be kind of cool. Um... anyway... At my new job I'm writing articles that often contain scenarios of hypothetical situations, with characters demonstrating various points being made in the article. As far as I can tell, I have the freedom to name the characters anything I want. So far, I have a character named Allen, and one named Jeff (for Mr. Mangum). A Robyn may be forthcoming, as well as other feg-related monikers. It's fun being a writer... n. p.s. I've forgotten to congratulate Viv on the greatness of her recent Robyndream. What a heck of a subconscious that girl has. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 99 18:59:25 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists Gnat sez: >At my new job I'm writing articles that often contain scenarios of >hypothetical situations, with characters demonstrating various points >being made in the article. As far as I can tell, I have the freedom to >name the characters anything I want. So far, I have a character named >Allen, and one named Jeff (for Mr. Mangum). A Robyn may be forthcoming, >as well as other feg-related monikers. It's fun being a writer... Who is this Allen person? The bird you took on your travels? Why Allen? Is he some character one of us made up? Maybe I'll have to start using him in one of my notoriously unfinished tales. . . . - --The Great Quail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:04:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Marmalaid "Quivering pouches"? do i want to know what you're talking about? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:40:27 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists >Goddamn it, why does the list have to explode right when I switch jobs and >don't have a lot of time to write or read e-mail anymore? grr... I don't know, why did it explode when I just moved? Same reason. They hate us. >they impart virtually no information. So... I see here that you rank >"Bryter Layter" three slots above "Doc at the Radar Station." Um... OK. >This tells me nothing about either album, only that you like one better >than the other. Well, actually, I have a different view. Lists as a whole are interesting to me. They tell me a lot about a person and their listening habits, aesthetic bents, etc. I also really like MAKING them. I usually don't like to make them by rank tho. My number 7 usually isn't "better" than my number 10. In a general sense, it's sort of hard to slot things that are apples and oranges- is "The Best of Taj Mahal" better or worse than The Walker Brothers' "Portrait"? I'm not sure. I'm not sure I care. When you're talking about people whose collections are so vast and whose tastes are so diverse as many of the people on this list, you're talking about having to make these sorts of distinctions, and it can get pointless fast. However....... What I think is a lot more fun and interesting than a buncha top ten lists winging their way here is a top ten POLL. Unfortunately, polls require that someone collect and tabulate them. That person will not be me. I just moved fer chrissakes. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:40:27 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists >Goddamn it, why does the list have to explode right when I switch jobs and >don't have a lot of time to write or read e-mail anymore? grr... I don't know, why did it explode when I just moved? Same reason. They hate us. >they impart virtually no information. So... I see here that you rank >"Bryter Layter" three slots above "Doc at the Radar Station." Um... OK. >This tells me nothing about either album, only that you like one better >than the other. Well, actually, I have a different view. Lists as a whole are interesting to me. They tell me a lot about a person and their listening habits, aesthetic bents, etc. I also really like MAKING them. I usually don't like to make them by rank tho. My number 7 usually isn't "better" than my number 10. In a general sense, it's sort of hard to slot things that are apples and oranges- is "The Best of Taj Mahal" better or worse than The Walker Brothers' "Portrait"? I'm not sure. I'm not sure I care. When you're talking about people whose collections are so vast and whose tastes are so diverse as many of the people on this list, you're talking about having to make these sorts of distinctions, and it can get pointless fast. However....... What I think is a lot more fun and interesting than a buncha top ten lists winging their way here is a top ten POLL. Unfortunately, polls require that someone collect and tabulate them. That person will not be me. I just moved fer chrissakes. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:42:38 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... Eb wrote: >Anyway, you don't have to actually *hear* an artist to get a decent sense >of what his/her music is about, if you read a few profiles, check the >label, note the artist's peer group, observe who has been praising the >artist, etc. I can read the tea leaves quite well, at this point. I just find this such an enlightening statement that I want to repeat it. I am sure I will remember it well in the coming months. >Really, I think all this boils down to is that you're still miffed that >Chris Chandler didn't interest me. Did you go see him perform live? I went to hear C.C. in Austin, Texas a few weeks ago. I expected to be unimpressed -- singer-songwriter folkies, no matter how politically right-on, tend to leave me cold. (A sign of increasing jadedness, I guess. So Ani DiF. says bein' gay is OK and she's righteously pissed about bigots. True, and admirable, but I guess I've lived long enough out from under the _direct_ control of narrow-minded plebes that it's not an emotionally pressing issue for me anymore.) He also was supposed to rant poetry, which could be dreadful. I could not have been more wrong. What a fantastic performer -- edgy, incisive, hilariously funny in almost a Laurie Anderson way, fond of exaggerating cliches into tremendously ridiculous mental images that leave you gasping with their audacity. Nor was it simply rants "over" a backing band -- the Convenience Store Troubadors were melodic, clever, tight, and possibly better than Chandler himself: I suspect I will remember the refrain to their song "The Moon" for a long time. Chandler's rants and the CST's unplaceably retroid songs work together seamlessly; I can only compare it to what Waters was trying to achieve on _The Final Cut_ (which, in his case, turned into mere musical theater and sound effects). But the performance was an integral part of the music. As a show, I can recommend it unconditionally, whether or not you know the material. They have two CDs: _Collaborations_ (Chandler with various folkies) is dismissable, while _Convenience Store Troubadors_ is quite good, an accurate reflection of their performance and material. Still, it's the sort of thing that I'll give a few weeks' spins and eventually put away; the shows, however, I'll be sure to catch as often as I can. What they do cannot be captured on disc. There are other musicians who fall in this category as well -- people whose performance is so captivating that I urge everyone to go watch them, but whose recorded output never captures the excitement. Ed Hamill (Hamill On Trial) is such a case. If you haven't *seen him play* you are missing out on an undeniably whee-worthy experience, but his two CDs have been flops and critically dismissed (rightfully so, I think - though once you've seen him, you start to appreciate the CDs more). And of course there's the variant of this: the musicians whose recorded work is great, but whose shows are so appealing that even the non-fan will have an exciting time ... The Egyptians, to name a group at random. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:58:03 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: Marms...they aren't just for breakfast anymore... > There are other musicians who fall in this category as well -- people whose > performance is so captivating that I urge everyone to go watch them, but whose > recorded output never captures the excitement. Ed Hamill (Hamill On Trial) > is such a case. If you haven't *seen him play* you are missing out on an > undeniably whee-worthy experience, but his two CDs have been flops and > critically dismissed (rightfully so, I think - though once you've seen him, > you start to appreciate the CDs more). Incidently, I saw him open for Robyn at the first RH showI went to. He is a good live performer, although I enjoyed his between song banter more than the songs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:22:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: "enlightening" Yes, yes, David...I'm so shallow and so quick to judge based on surfaces...blah blah blah. Here are the simple facts. In the last year and a half or so, there were exactly *five* groups whom I discovered affection for, when I had no positive expectations at all. To wit: Fluid Ounces, Kristian Hoffman, Little Red Rocket, Money Mark and the Grassy Knoll. And all but Money Mark are minor, minor discoveries and future prey for collection prunings. Also, the Grassy Knoll barely even counts, because it *did* have the pre-existing tipoff of Thurston Moore's participation. Do you have any idea of how many OTHER new, unknown-quantity groups I heard, during that period? Now, there were quite a few other new groups I discovered during that time (including Rufus W., of course), but I always had an inkling beforehand that the artist would be "compatible." You *can* learn an awful lot from reading press, listening to the "buzz" and examining album credits. I know what I like. I'm very good at guessing what I will like, as well. I read enough about Chris Chandler to guess that I would find him irritating, and there was also the consideration that he's a favorite of someone (eddie) with whom I have very few common tastes. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:20:39 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists amadain wrote: > Well, actually, I have a different view. Lists as a whole are interesting > to me. They tell me a lot about a person and their listening habits, > aesthetic bents, etc. I also really like MAKING them. I usually don't like > to make them by rank tho. My number 7 usually isn't "better" than my number > 10. I agree. And furthermore, my number 7 on one day, might *be* my number 10 the next day. That's exactly why the poll is a good idea. It wouldn't actually say that the #7 album is better than the #10. It would just say that more people on the list liked the #7 album more than the amount of people who liked the #10 album. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:33:47 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists which is *exactly* what michael and joel were proposing. interesting that, amidst all the bleats about how evil top ten lists are, there hasn't been a one posted to the fegmaniax computer network. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:05:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: by the way... ...I hope you all are rushing out to buy Mule Variations tonight. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:19:45 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists In a message dated 99-04-21 20:21:24 EDT, you write: << What I think is a lot more fun and interesting than a buncha top ten lists winging their way here is a top ten POLL. Unfortunately, polls require that someone collect and tabulate them. That person will not be me. I just moved fer chrissakes. >> Right! I think that was the whole idea at the beginning. If Aaron thinks he'll get his online polling system done fairly soon, then that'd be great. Otherwise, I'll be happy (or, on some days, willing) to tally up the votes. BUT DON'T START SENDING THEM JUST YET! So, Aaron, what do you say? - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:48:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: My top ten reasons for hating top ten lists On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > So, Aaron, what do you say? expect it by the end of tomorrow, assuming nothing at work needs much doing, which -- well anyway, expect it by the end of tomorrow. aaron ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #147 *******************************