From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #144 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 20 1999 Volume 08 : Number 144 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Blithe Spirit [Terrence M Marks ] Re: etiquette [Aaron Mandel ] Re: 45% Robyn [fred is ted ] Re: ?% Robyn [Bayard ] 45% polly holiday content [Eb ] Re: boring people and Hitchcock [David Librik ] Re: boring people and Hitchcock [Ben ] jane says [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: Fucking Top X Lists ["matt sewell" ] re: 500 [Eb ] Re: Fucking Top X Lists [Eb ] Re: 500 ["Chris!" ] what's the top 10? Oh, and Luna [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dign] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #143 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] re: boring people and Hitchcock [Michael Wolfe ] fake debt... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: rpm [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: ?% Robyn [lj lindhurst ] catching up ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: catching up [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Fucking Top X Lists [VIV LYON ] Re: catching up [lj lindhurst ] Re: boring people and Hitchcock [MARKEEFE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:15:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Blithe Spirit On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Bayard wrote: > Yes, it was inspired by the play. Are there any other songs based on > plays? > np-Shakespeare's Greatest Hits. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: etiquette On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > how does your thing work, aaron? 'cause a database would be > ultracool, if you're set up for that. click on an album, and see all > the fegs that had voted for it, and where they had ranked it. it's not quite that cool right now, though the presentation of results is separate from the voting form (read: "not done") and could thus be adjusted. the real issue is that i haven't put in the ability to rank your list when you send it in, since i've always hated the "first place = ten points, tenth place = one point" polling scheme. could be done, though. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: 45% Robyn Hey fegs, good to be back. De-listed fer spring break. Colonial Williamsburg turned out to be cool! Really well done, not the tourist trap I expected. But what's with all the pancake joints in the area? Strange, weird, eerie. Fuckin' 'ell, I missed a Half- Man Half-Biscuit thread! Sadness. - --- Joel Mullins wrote: Sometimes, I might even go a couple of > months without ever> putting in a RH CD. But then, after awhile, I'll> get into some sort of > FegObsession where I listen to Robyn and only Robyn > for an entire month.> The same thing happens with the Beatles and VU, but> it's not quite as> intense or long-lasting as it is with RH. I'm> wondering if I'm the only> one who listens to RH in this cyclical fashion. > As far as RH listening habits, yeah, there is an eb (tm) and flow. Never "do without" for more than a month, though. Hmmm. Eb and Flow...good name for a tampon, no? "It's the time of the season, for Eb and Flow." The main thing I notice is that I gravitate to certain discs at certain times of the year. This habit is reinforced by my Byronesque ;) penchant for listening to music during long walks. Like yesterday, a painfully nice spring day, I popped Fegmania! into the MD player and headed out. For me,Egy. Cream is nothing if not a spring song, what with all the refs to things growing helter-skelter. Just a bright, sunny album on the whole. OTOH, I love IODOT and much of EOL for fall and winter perambulations. I tend to dwell upon the "dark" albums in heavier jags than the light ones. But then, that's the kind of guy I am (eyes rolling...). Re Matrix: Fun to watch, got slow in the middle. OK acting. The script was hogwash. The green filter look is *such* a cliche, but I did like the hi-res look-- kinda like an IMAX flick. Re: Anthony Newley--goodbye, candyman. Tears of Falstaff... So many posts, so little time, so what... Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:31:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: ?% Robyn On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, fred is ted wrote: > "It's the time of the season, for Eb and Flow." if Eb doesn't marry a gal named Flo, I'll be disappointed. (Terrence, I think we're entering some fertile comic strip territory here.) The site has been updated again with some elf power/Eddie power ephemera. http://travel.to/glasshotel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:34:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: 45% polly holiday content Ted: >As far as RH listening habits, yeah, there is an eb >(tm) and flow. Never "do without" for more than a >month, though. Hmmm. Eb and Flow...good name for a >tampon, no? >"It's the time of the season, for Eb and Flow." Meanwhile, I still can't find any eligible babes in L.A. named Flo. Drat. I've been wading through the bewildering flurry of posts today, and am confused. What are we debating again? Whether to compile either our Top 33 or our Top 45 favorite feminine hygiene products? If so, I plead the Fifth. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:35:29 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: boring people and Hitchcock (I'm tempted to make some remark about the descriptiveness of the Subject line, but since it was my idea to begin with, I'd better not) Michael K. wrote: > I can imagine some hip college kid 10 years from now saying, "Man, > I like that Robyn Hitchcock guy, but someone should've let him know that the > last 3-6 songs on each of his albums just don't quite live up to the 10 > tracks before that." Actually, before we brought this up here on the list, I > could've imagined some hip college kid saying that *today*! Joel? The reason I originally got thinking about this subject was that, in fact, I read exactly such a thing about UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT. It was in 1992, on rec.music.misc (back when r.m.m was the only place to talk about music). Someone wrote that he'd been hearing for years about the brilliance of the Soft Boys, and now that Glass Flesh had released UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT on CD, he picked it up and gave it a listen. His conclusion: it sure has a lot of fluff on it. Sure, "Insanely Jealous" and "Underwater Moonlight" and a lot of the first half of the album was great, but they really lose their way after the title track. "Strange," "Where Are The Prawns," "Vegetable Man," are all interesting, but second-rate, he thought. What was all the fuss about? >But this assumes that most people ignore the writing on the back of the >case!!! I mean, on "UM" it clearly states BONUS TRACKS. Maybe most record >buyers *are* complete morons and don't notice this, but I'll be an optimist >and hope it isn't true! Not on the Glass Flesh versions of the Soft Boys CDs. Nowhere on UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT do they indicate that the "real" album stops at track 10. It's all listed as part of one great whole. Same for CAN OF BEES. I never bought the Ryko versions -- are they sonically better than the Glass Flesh ones? - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:35:05 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: boring people and Hitchcock David Librik wrote: > >But this assumes that most people ignore the writing on the back of the > >case!!! I mean, on "UM" it clearly states BONUS TRACKS. Maybe most record > >buyers *are* complete morons and don't notice this, but I'll be an optimist > >and hope it isn't true! > > Not on the Glass Flesh versions of the Soft Boys CDs. Nowhere on UNDERWATER > MOONLIGHT do they indicate that the "real" album stops at track 10. It's > all listed as part of one great whole. Same for CAN OF BEES. I never bought > the Ryko versions -- are they sonically better than the Glass Flesh ones? > Glass Fish you mean? Come on, join the 20th century, nobody buys those antiques anymore! ;) Oh, the Ryko versions are better, but only because they come in those nifty green jewel boxes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:01:07 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: jane says On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:09:03 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >Jane's always reminded me of Led Zeppelin. Listen to "Jane Says" and see >if you don't think so. And, "the solo years"? Dave Navarro's prima donna >stint with the Chili Peppers was laughable. Porno For Pyros was flaccid. >The Jane's reunion was pure vanity. > >/hal What about "Deconstruction?" I love that album...It was as poetic and groundbreaking as Perry Farrell always wanted to be but never was. -luther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:11:29 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Fucking Top X Lists Hi everyone, As a new member of fegmaniax (fresh feg?), I's like to add my scream of NO!! to the top (10? 20? 100? 1000?)albums idea. I'm kinda completely against the idea of a comparative structure to creative output -- of course everyone's going to do it to a certain extent, in order to have likes and dislikes, but trying to compare artistic likes in a 'top 10' chart seems to me to be a.impossible and b.pointless (unless of course we could come up with a set of top trump album cards!? I wonder what the categories would be?) I'm sure this list, however, is bound to go ahead... Matt ;-] >From: VIV LYON >Reply-To: VIV LYON >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Fucking Top X Lists >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:43:44 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- lj lindhurst wrote: >> Am I the only person who is mentally screaming "OH >> MOTHER OF MARY SWEET >> BABY FUCKING JESUS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO NO >> NO!!!!!" to this notion? > >No. LJ, you're not. If I never see another top anything list in my >entire life, so help me god, it will be too soon. > >Vivien >I'm starting to think maybe I've discovered a gender-specific way of >communicating. >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:36:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: 500 Well, I just got email back from an Elektra publicist. She says that Luna is NOT dropped, only that the record's release date has been moved back. Hrm. Has anyone seen the "Luna dropped" story anywhere except on that Galaxie/Luna fansite? Eb PS Got the new Apples in Stereo disc today (doh, didn't even know its release was imminent)...I'll let you know. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:39:59 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fucking Top X Lists >>From: VIV LYON >> >>No. LJ, you're not. If I never see another top anything list in my >>entire life, so help me god, it will be too soon. >> >>Vivien Wasn't someone going to compile a list of "Top Vivien Posts, Complaining About Listmaking"? Did that project get abandoned? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:08:11 -0700 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: 500 Eb wrote: > > Well, I just got email back from an Elektra publicist. She says that Luna > is NOT dropped, only that the record's release date has been moved back. > Hrm. Has anyone seen the "Luna dropped" story anywhere except on that > Galaxie/Luna fansite? Interesting. I checked www.fuzzywuzzy.com, a Justin Harwood-run site, and it mentions that the cd is done and that the release date is pending. And nothing else, yea or nea. Although, getting an album pushed back with no reason given is a bit odd. It is not a busy time of the year but far too long until the holiday buying spree. I doubt a tour is holding the thing up. Perhaps we should have a drop-watch rather than the lists usual death-watch... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:12:16 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: what's the top 10? Oh, and Luna >> And Luna's Penthouse >> (a fine album on its own) over Galaxie 500's "This is Our Music"??? I >> might add that "This is Our Music" may be the single most blissful >> musical recording in the known universe. then again, it may not. Sorry, but I'm with evenEb on this one. Perhaps Luna sould get in touch with XTC - they know all about fake debt in lousy recording contracts... I would have picked Rubber Soul as his Beatles album, rating it in the top five with Before and After Science, Notorious Byrd Brothers (!), Paris 1919, and Highway 61 Revisited. Element of Light would make the top 10. I'm gonna have to come up with a few more and submit it to whoever's gonna keep track of them. I take it that sending them all to the list would be a VERY BAD idea! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:12:19 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #143 you are young, Joel.Too young > Hey, I just got the 7" for Elliott Smith's Needle in the Hay and I put > it on my record player to find that it sounded like a girl was singing. > It turns out that the record is 33rpm. I was under the impression that > all 7" records played at 45rpm. I guess I was wrong. Or is this a > mistake? It actually sounded a little slow at 33rpm. And why would > Kill Rock Stars record all their other ES 7" records at 45 rpm and only > this one at 33? At one time, all EPs were 7"s, and they were almost always recorded to be played at 33RPM. I'm sure any Bootleophiles out there will back me up that EPs such as the "Twist and Shout"EP were 33s. As to this particular release, I can only assume that the track would have been too long to fit on a 7"at 45RPM. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:53:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: re: boring people and Hitchcock Is it just me, or have Dave's and my posts taken on an uncanny resemblance to each other? :) I'm not trying to insinuate anything untoward; I just wanted to say that I like your style Mr. Librik. - -Michael Wolfe np: Michael Penn - March ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:49:21 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: fake debt... more on the happy business of music... Let's say you are a band with great people who get college airplay and get a big record deal, Rolling Stone magazine says you are the greatest thing since the Clash. You have minor success, in reality, you actually make money for the record company. You will eventually get reamed or dropped as did the band to which I am referring (not the Egyptians, though this might have been the case for them.) A friend of mine was in American Music Club. The deal was that Mark Eitzel received the advance and all obvious money. The record company would fund the tours and occasionally blow dough for, like, food and logings. They went through years of that. My friend left the band when it became apparent that there was no sound financial structure to allow him to ever make a cent. The band owed a great deal of funny money, even though they probably didn't lose money. The record company charged them for every possible expense. Whether Mark Eitzel re-signed and the record company forgave old debts, or he found a new record company, his new singer/songwriter deal allows him to pay his musicians hourly money and at least they get _something_ out of the deal. At the big record companies, one successful act (platinum +) has to pay for 10 unsuccessful ones (at Sony it's probably 1:30) but they won't hold onto somebody that's just breaking even. They also have created a machine to where those 10 bands are penalized for their lack of success, no matter who was at fault. (If A&M had gotten off of their asses when Rolling Stone called Perspex Island the replacement for Rumors, Robyn Hitchcock would be less of a cult figure today.) Well, otherwise you can buy all of your equipment and do the whole thing yourself and only spend less than a hundred thousand and put your first one out all by yourself. You'll be ahead of the ballgame and you won't be ten million in debt when the first one doesn't go platinum. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:45:45 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: rpm >>>>> "Capuchin" == Capuchin writes: Capuchin> Or is someone out there making turntables with only one Capuchin> speed these days and they're trying to make that market? Capuchin> I don't know. Linn LP-12 'Sondek's (costing much $$$) are only 33-1/3rpm. You can get an adaptor to make them do 45, but it's hardly swift to change. They will make you a 45rpm one to special order, tho'. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:17:01 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: all time - Feg All Time! >>>>> "lj" == lj lindhurst writes: lj> Am I the only person who is mentally screaming "OH MOTHER OF lj> MARY SWEET BABY FUCKING JESUS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO NO lj> NO!!!!!" to this notion? You're not alone. I'm thinking "Och" about lists, which translates as much the same. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:35:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Batch o' Unimportant Stuff WARNING. Tedious pedanticism follows. Delete immediately. >cord (cd) >a traditional unit of volume used to measure stacked firewood. >Like most traditional units of trade, the cord has varied >somewhat according to local custom. In the United States, the >cord is defined legally as the volume of a stack of firewood 4 >feet wide, 8 feet long, and 4 feet high. That's a volume of 128 >cubic feet, about 3.6247 cubic meters, or 3.6247 steres. The >name apparently comes from an old method of measuring a stack of >firewood using a cord or string. I don't think this is in the "book" definition, but I always heard the 4 x 8 x 4 number, with the wood stacked with "enough space in between so that a squirrel could run through the pile, but not the cat that was chasing it." Awful compassionate towards the rodentia, weren't those early standards writers? >It's true that no matter what groove pitch you get a longer >track at 33rpm than 45rpm. I think by the 70s, most record >lathes could do variable groove pitch to make maximum use of the >real estate. Loud signal = wide groove space, quiet signal = >closer grooves. That's the technology that made possible the >release of McArthur Park as a single. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the most compelling argument for fighting the inexorable advance of scientific knowledge that I have ever heard. Truly this, if nothing else, will give even the most rapid technologist pause. >>Sad. That was one miserable life he had. :( >> >>Eb > >Made even worse by the fact that he lived only five miles from >Mark Gloster... Wha..? Hey! If you guys don't stop picking on Mark, Bayard an' me are gonna have to open up a can of whup ass on y'all, with the secret Kung-Fu grip. Ain't that right Bayard? >...El Proximo Ultimo Cone is at the height of fashion. About 6' 5", to be precise. (rimshot) Thank you, thank you! You're beautiful, Tulsa, I'll be here all week! Drive safely, and don't forget to tip your waitstaff on your way out. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:58:09 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: ?% Robyn Bayard wrote: >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, fred is ted wrote: > >> "It's the time of the season, for Eb and Flow." > >if Eb doesn't marry a gal named Flo, I'll be disappointed. If Doug doesn't name his band that, *I'll* be disappointed! l ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:34:14 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: catching up CYBER-DWEEB'S TOP 50 >> His choice of Byrds albums is *way off*. Sweetheart on any day in my >> mind, but not Notorious. >> >> .chris > >Still, he is sensible enough to place "American Beauty" above both "The Notorious >Byrd Brothers" and "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea". ;) you folks obviously didn't read the small print: >INTRODUCTORY NOTE: Rather than compiling the usual list of the most >"important" albums of the rock era (i.e. Sgt. Pepper's, Nevermind, etc.), >I've listed the records that have spent the most time in my cd player (tape >deck, turntable, etc.) over the years. I think it's a pretty good list myself, though nowhere near representative of anyone else's idea of an actual top 50 of all time. FEG ALL TIME > we > could make an All Time Feg Top 40 or something, though! Whaddya say? I > would be willing to keep track of the whole thing and tally up the votes > [yes, by the way, I *will* openly accept payola :-)]. Great idea. It's been WAY to long since the last fegPoll. >Top 40 sounds more reasonable. How 'bout we just vote and see how long the list gets? >You should let people put down as many as they want, based on how many albums >they have. For example, someone who has a collection of 500-1000 albums may only >want to do a top 10 or 20, while someone with many more would want to do a longer >list. And yes we should include Robyn, because it would be interesting to see >where those place in people's overall lists. as if 500-1000 albums is a smaller collection?? I realize there are lots of folks with more, but up until I read this I was feeling pretty proud of my nearly 600 CD's. Tough room. I think 20 is a good number, but here's a suggestion if some people want to list more...Weight each position, starting at 50 points for number one. Number 20 would be worth 31 points and anything beyond that would be weighted accordingly, on down to one point for number 50. Hitchcock should be listed, and of course he'll fare much better here than he would on any other list. Should be a nice ego boost for RH when we get to inform him that a surevey of his fans placed 19 of his albums in the top 20 of all time. A NEW LOW >eljay, the rabbit goddess Imacs: >>You don't understand-- wearing a Tampax makes you wanna DANCE!!!! >>(Ain't I right, girls?) sharkster >...and go swimming, and camping, and bicycling, and tree-climbing, >and skydiving, and pouring blue liquids on absorbent materials or >dropping them in water glasses-- or so we menfolk are led to >believe. And I wish I could ride a horse. But without Tampax I'm afraid I wouldn't enjoy it much. BLYTHE SPIRIT >> > Yes, it was inspired by the play. Are there any other songs based on >> > plays? >> >> Yes! > >that's not a song. that's a group What's a group? (A question intended to separate the Bud Abbotts from the Leslie Nielsons on this list) SKIP SPENCE >>> his death, he was residing in a mobile home near Santa Cruz, where he lived >>> on a subsistence income. A trust fund has been established to assist >>> Spence's >>> family with the late musician's medical bills. Anyone wishing to contribute >>> may send a (non-deductible) donation to: Comerica Bank, CA, Attn: >>> Marilyn Guzman, 1960 41st Avenue, Capitola, CA 95010. Checks should be >>> made payable to: I.T.F. Alexander Lee "Skip" Spence. >> >>Sad. That was one miserable life he had. :( >> >>Eb > >Made even worse by the fact that he lived only five miles from Mark >Gloster... Does that make Mark a suspect? I may have missed this, but wasn't there talk a year or so about a Skip Spence tribute CD that was supposed to include a selection from Hitchcock? Whatever became of that project? Skip's death was a terrible blow to both rock and roll. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:52:23 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: catching up ruSs saYs: >And I wish I could ride a horse. But without Tampax I'm afraid I wouldn't >enjoy it much. I'm betting you'd enjoy it more without. Trust me, it's a guy thing. >What's a group? >(A question intended to separate the Bud Abbotts from the Leslie Nielsons on >this list) And stop calling me Shirley.... >>Made even worse by the fact that he lived only five miles from Mark >>Gloster... >Does that make Mark a suspect? I don't think I'm a suspect. I have connections who can make people's lives miserable for even the mere utterance. Michael would come in from above, Bayard from below. You wouldn't even know what hit you. EvenEb (tm) would have no defense for the ravages that these two wild animals could extract. And did I say onslaught? Okay, onslaught! Have any of you noticed the fangs on Bayard? They weren't made for just crackin' Fruit Loops! I see it now. The adventures of Mad Dog (Bayard) and Wolfe Man (Michael).... It would at least fly as a summer replacement on Fox. Y'know, I knew a guy who was a founding member of the Strawberry Alarm Clock. He was kind of a friend of Skip's. Probably not a stablizing influence- if you can imagine that. He would have likely killed himself upon hearing of Skip's death, if y'know, he hadn't already done that. And no, I'm not a suspect there either- geez, you guys! I hope both rock and roll can recover. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: Fucking Top X Lists - --- Eb wrote: > Wasn't someone going to compile a list of "Top > Vivien Posts, Complaining > About Listmaking"? Did that project get abandoned? If by that remark, sir, you are implying that I am a One-Note Nellie, I must bid you pause and consider that I do like listmaking. Lists of words, lists of things to do, lists of lists....the thing I don't like is RANKING. Especially ranking of 'favorites' or 'bests.' This activity I cannot condone as productive, as I stand to learn nothing from the fact that Jeme ranks the soundtrack to Krull at number 14 in his 'Best Albums of All Time.' I honestly can't believe that someone could rank (oh, to make it topical) IODOT either under or over Eye. One isn't better than another- they're both extremely good in different ways (or in similar ways, according to some of us). Vivien _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:07:29 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: catching up >ruSs saYs: >>And I wish I could ride a horse. But without Tampax I'm afraid I wouldn't >>enjoy it much. > >I'm betting you'd enjoy it more without. Trust me, it's a guy >thing. You also wouldn't enjoy the afore-mentioned pouring-blue-water-on-things as much either. I always wondered why they decided to use BLUE water-- is that the color that is least like any bodily fluid? Which reminds me of this important thought: I hate it when commercials show bloody wounds! (like in band-aid or Bactine commercials) That makes me sick! I also hate when they show skin diseases, warts, nail fungus, or people's feet in any way! ooh gross! la la la... lj ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "who do you what do you why do you do?" --Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:42:32 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: boring people and Hitchcock In a message dated 4/19/99 9:19:08 AM, bpnicast@bulldog.unca.edu writes: << But this assumes that most people ignore the writing on the back of the case!!! I mean, on "UM" it clearly states BONUS TRACKS. Maybe most record buyers *are* complete morons and don't notice this, but I'll be an optimist and hope it isn't true! >> Yeah, but if you're not paying a ton of attention to track numbers while listening, then it's hard to know when the "album proper" has ended and the bonus tracks have begun, which is why bonus tracks are so elusive in the first place. They just sorta sneak up on ya! It's not like a "bonus round" on a game show where they wheel out an entirely new backdrop and dim the lights -- the bonus tracks just start a-playin' right after the album has ended, generally without even so much as a ceremonial pause. It's sneaky, and it's rude. Little buggers! - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #144 *******************************