From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #140 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 17 1999 Volume 08 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re. re. re. [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: More Matrix bashing [Ben ] Re: More Matrix bashing ["Daniel Saunders" ] Rufus Wainwright (0% that other guy content) ["Jason R. Thornton" ] brit, Anthony Newley... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] whoa bubba [Marcy Tanter ] kosovo and othe krazy konundrums [J Branscombe ] Dreamy days ["Ghost Surfer" ] what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? [lj lind] Re: More Matrix bashing [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? [MAR] Re: what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? [Gle] Personal Question about Spanish [The Great Quail ] testing a hypothesis [dmw ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:54:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: re. re. re. Re. going to Chicago to see "Storefront" - gee, now I feel obligated to go! Just make sure it's on a weekend, OK, Dave? And thanks for (possibly) making it happen... :) Re. Robyn-listening: I probably listen to him every couple of weeks or so. After shaking the worst of my XTC addiction I don't want to become glued to any one artist again, and anyway I prefer Robyn in light doses. I do binge occasionally, though. Re. the Beulah info - thanks, Michael! I shall begin the quest to find it... just about every record shop clerk in town is an Elephant 6 fan, so I shouldn't have too much trouble. n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:09:09 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: More Matrix bashing "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > >ps: Finally saw the Matrix. Found myself liking the stylish, dark, hong > >kong influenced, sorta gilliamesque/geigeresque-ness of it. > > Personally, that's another thing I'm REAL sick of seeing in sci-fi > flicks... that whole Geiger dark green bio-cybernetic gooey tentacle look. Although the Giger look would be great for a Soft Boys video, IMO. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" Subject: Re: More Matrix bashing > Personally, that's another thing I'm REAL sick of seeing in sci-fi > flicks... that whole Geiger dark green bio-cybernetic gooey tentacle look. But nobody had actually gone so far as to portray babies with cybernetic implants before, at least not till now. I'm not sure if this is a good thing... Myself, I was very impressed with the movie overall, but I was very disappointed at the way it degenerated into a sock 'em up fest in the end, although even that was very entertaining (on a sort of adolescent Mortal Kombat level). I would have liked to have seen more development of their intriguing science fiction ideas. What really grabbed me about the film was the way the plot defied expectations. For at least the first half I had no idea what was going to happen next. Like when Neo's on the ledge outside the window, and he *doesn't* make it to the roof. Or the way the silvery stuff in the mirror behaved. - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:07:28 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Rufus Wainwright (0% that other guy content) Well after missing the chance to attend the Rufus Wainwright show while I was in Chicago (I ALSO missed the Olivia Tremor Control gig there as well), I finally got to see him performing at The Center here in San Diego last night. Rufus was, according to his own on-stage banter, the first "major artist" (ie, anyone who has pressed a CD) to hold a concert at what is basically, as far as I could gather, the dance hall for some sort of community center. "No one's ever played here before, right? Then I christen thee Rufus Wainwright Hall." Ben Lee and Martha Wainwright opened up. Martha's solo stuff was pretty airy and uninteresting, and she took FOREVER to tune up her guitar between songs. I'm rather fond of her voice, though. Ben Lee began his set with an a cappella version of a Liz Phair song, but otherwise musically he didn't live up to a lot of the hype. A few songs caught my ear, but overall, he didn't really impress me much. Rufus was MUCH better live than I expected. One thing I really noticed was how likeable his on-stage personality is, and how genuinely funny he is. This was true of Ben Lee as well - both had a very easy-going and authentic manner about them. Although, Wainwright did go a tad bit overboard on "Foolish Love," turning it into a neo-lounge-act piece by cracking jokes about two San Diego Marines he had met in Denver between the lyrics...still, it had that rebelliously unprofessional thing going for it. Musically, Rufus's backing band wasn't anything special. They played more of a supportive role. Still, the four piece arrangements (occasionally 5 if your count some of Martha Wainwright's backing vocals) of the songs worked quite well live, with the players filling out the songs very nicely, especially the rhythmic impact of drums. They added subtly to the songs, without overpowering, unlike say Tori Amos's recent live backing players. The bassist mainly played upright, which I tend to love, but didn't really do much to grab my attention. Of course, he threw in some bowing, to give a few of the tunes a thin "string section" sound. Rufus's guitarist played a lot of piano, and Rufus spent about half the time behind an acoustic guitar. I didn't catch any of their names...sorry. Wainwright played a couple of new songs, including a "critical, but happy" piece called "California," and a cowboy-campire "song about forbidden love on the plains" titled, I beeeelieve, "Four Walls." Don't hold me to that second one. Everything else was pretty much what you'd expect, mainly most of the stronger tracks from his album. "April Fools" seemed to lack a little bounce, compared to the recorded version, but still knocked my socks off. This was one of the songs, quite obviously, that his sister sang backup on. My other favorites of the evening were probably "Imaginary Love" and "Beauty Mark." CD's and t-shirts were available for sale. The shirts were rather boring, but really affordable by concert standards - a mere $15. I still didn't buy one, but was nonetheless impressed that an artists would sell shirts at anything less than $27. ;) On another note, I just noticed in a local paper that Elvis Costello and Steve Nieve will be playing down here May 30th. This Beulah band everyone has been talking about plays here with Of Montreal and Ladybug Transitors on the 28th. Woohoo! Cheers! - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:10:19 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Joy Electric, etc. >From: Eb >Subject: re: Joy Electric, etc. > >And yes, I don't like Science Park or the Magnetic >Fields, either. I find the underground acclaim for the Magnetic Fields >highly mystifying. Well, Stephen Merritt is a musical snob and elitist, which delights other musical snobs and elitists, which I think accounts for some of their popularity, at least. I've witnessed many a Usenet war over his opinions. Me, I absolutely adore the album "The Charm of the Highway Strip" -- I think it's a gorgeous, melancholy synth-pop masterpiece. Merritt's work as The Sixths (Wasps Nest) is also quite a toe-tapper. But his other stuff is rather hit-or-miss, to my ears. I'll say this, tho: I've seen Magnetic Fields live twice, and they've never come even close to the recordings (a big peeve of mine -- like I absolutely adored His Name Is Alive's CDs, until I saw them perform live -- they were abysmal). >On the positive end, I've heard several good discs lately: three Meat >Puppets reissues (damn, Meat Puppets II and Up on the Sun really should be >a lot more widely renowned than they are), Yeah -- the Meat Puppets' early work really hasn't been given its due. An instance of good Meat Puppets press I can recall is by Simon Reynolds. In his excellent and now oop book "Blissed Out: the Raptures of Rock", he writes a surprisingly astute and brilliant revue of MPII. NP: Renaldo and the Loaf, "Music for Swinging Larvae" -- anybody manage to get that Ralph records CD reissue of the Residents/Renaldo and the Loaf album "Title in Limbo"? Seems they only pressed 1,000 copies. _________________________________________________________ Gene Hopsetter, Jr. Phone: 210.805.8607 Atension,Inc. Fax: 210.805.8517 1920 Nacogdoches, Ste. 202 San Antonio, TX 78209 - --------------------------------------------------------- empowered.internet.solutions _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:18:23 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: brit, Anthony Newley... is out of the picture. RIP. I don't think you would have wanted to hear him sing "Queen of Eyes." He was kind of creepy to watch or listen to while singing, but seemed like a really nice guy. His vibrato and hand gestures were almost comical. The older guys are poppin' off too fast. Those of us who are left had better write our names in the snow in a hurry, lest we fail to make our mark. Happies, and no, not particularly obsessed with death- just filling in for AWOLevenEb- - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:50:02 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: whoa bubba >I forgot to resubscribe after spring break so I was checking the archives >randomly to see what I [thought I] missed. Someone said something about >fegs only representing a small portion of the population. Not true-we ARE >the population! (ha ha) Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:19:14 -0400 From: J Branscombe Subject: kosovo and othe krazy konundrums I may have just sent a very small message. I'm trying to send a bigger one now. I've just cycled past the Yugoslavians in Whitehall and the Albanians 100 yards down the road. I was going to act as an intermediary but I wanted to have a few post-work pints. Eddie I'm still waiting for your barrage. Bush fucked this up. King Elvis. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:18:53 EDT From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Mercury Rev in Chicago Fegs... Had to share that Mercury Rev's show in Chicago last night was, in a word, amazing. Even if you've never really been a fan (or don't know them at all), see this tour. I honestly was not prepared to be so blown away, for though I'm mighty impressed with Deserter's Songs, opener Jason Falkner is the reason I made sure I left the house. Double bill of the year already. Not to be outdone by the West Coast rock critics among us, the evening held a surprise audience member in Sean O'Hagan of the High Llamas (in Chicago recording the follow-up to "Cold And Bouncy" at Mr. Albini's studio- no, Steve ISN'T producing... LOL!). Sounds like this one will be sort of folksy (?!). The after show shenanigans were a thing of Alt. Pop fan's dreams, with all these "thinking person's rock bands" hanging out. Oh yeah, and Sebadoh were playing across town, but nobody seemed to notice. ;) Blinking On And Off, Jay H. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:11:41 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Harumph >>ps: Finally saw the Matrix. Found myself liking the stylish, dark, hong >>kong influenced, sorta gilliamesque/geigeresque-ness of it. > >Personally, that's another thing I'm REAL sick of seeing in sci-fi >flicks... that whole Geiger dark green bio-cybernetic gooey tentacle look. hate to butt in and nitpick, but it's Giger. HansRuedi Giger. Geiger is the nuclear radiation guy. James PS - who are those two weird twins at the Glass Hotel site, anyway? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:40:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap Bill Wendell, Announcer on David Letterman Show, Dies at 75 By ANTHONY RAMIREZ Bill Wendell, a radio and television announcer whose crisp authoritative voice provided an ironic foil to entertainers from Ernie Kovacs to David Letterman, died Wednesday at a hospice in Boca Raton, Fla. He was 75. The cause of death was complications from cancer, said one of his daughters, Francette Nunziata. Until his retirement in 1995, Wenzel was most recently known for the off-stage introduction of guests at the beginning of Letterman's show at NBC and later CBS. The introductions typically began with a municipal characterization like, "From New York, mountain fortress of the ancient Incas, it's 'Late Night With David Letterman . . ."' But Wendell also worked with Bob Hope, Dave Garroway, Jack Paar, Merv Griffin, Gary Moore, Alan King, Tom Snyder, Billy Crystal and Jerry Seinfeld. But what brought him the earliest and widest attention was his work in the 1950s as the on-air sidekick for Ernie Kovacs, Mrs. Nunziata said. "They were always playing practical jokes on each other," his daughter recalled. "One time Ernie was supposed to gulp a big martini, but it was supposed to be filled with water, only it was really filled with vodka. He spit it out and started coughing like crazy on live national television. Dad and his cronies were laughing their heads off." Wendell was born William Joseph Wenzel, Jr. on March 22, 1924, in New York City to William J. Wenzel , a beverage distributor and an owner of several Manhattan fruit stands, and Mildred S. Wenzel, a housewife. After serving in the U.S. Army Air Corps in World War II, he worked in radio and early television. He had taken the professional name of Wendell "because he wanted to give his family some privacy and maybe a German name at that time wasn't that popular," Mrs. Nunziata said. Wendell then went on to work as a staff radio and television announcer for NBC, on call for network promotions, special news bulletins and network identifications. In addition to his daughter Mrs. Nunziata of Pelham Manor, N.Y., Wendell is survived by his wife, Anne Eustace Wenzel; two other daughters, Anne Wenzel Markgraf of Burbank, California, and Elizabeth Hansbury of White Plains; two sons, William J. Wenzel 3d of Southport, Conn., and Richard Eustace Wenzel of Mount Vernon, N.Y., and 14 grandchildren. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:18:35 PDT From: "Ghost Surfer" Subject: Dreamy days >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:05:12 -0400 (EDT) >From: Natalie Jacobs >Subject: further adventures in sound > >I've been working on an audition tape for the college radio station - >this >was where I scratched "Tigermilk," in an attempt to cue it. I didn't >do >too much damage tonight: I just managed to rip the hell out of an LP >liner >in an attempt to get the record out (it was already ripped part way, >and I >thought that was the way to get it out...). But I didn't feel too bad - >their copy of "Forever Changes" had a giant chip taken out of the >edge! >For shame! > >On the audition tape, you're supposed to play a lot of music you've >never >heard before. So I made some discoveries. >Ninian Hawick, "Scottish Rite Temple Stomp" (as recommended by >someone on >this list): Jeez, I was expecting this to be a huge orgasmic >psychedelic >rave-up, and instead it's just a fun pop song with cute lyrics. I liked >it, though. Glad you liked it, for more info on Dreamy redords (the UK label, it was Grimsey in the USA) they now have a web site, so go to.. www.dreamyrecords.demon.co.uk It's nice and pink as well - ----------------************************************************------------ "There are times when i can't think about the future, when all my days seem so dark and life seems cruel" - Mojave 3 & "Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:45:34 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? Just got Steve Earle's "El Corazon"-- I am REALLY REALLY liking this record! How come none of yous guys ever mentioned this album before? (Or was I asleep with my strawberry?) So he has 2 other records out? Are they just as good? I very much liked the stuff he did with Jill Sobule on "Happy Town" (another grossly underrated record!). speaking of dreams, I dreamed last night that I posted to the fegs list something with every dirty word I could possibly think of in the title. TGQ said he had a dream that my parents' dog was miniature. What does it all MEAN?? l ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "who do you what do you why do you do?" --Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:51:44 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: More Matrix bashing At 2.32 PM -0700 4/15/99, Jason R. Thornton wrote: And I never play computer games, so I'm nowhere >near the source. Well, I admit, I have TRIED a couple... which is how I >became familiar enough with their format to be able to be able to make the >initial comparison. ;) Only 2 more comments: Alternate realities, time stretching and heavy paranoia. The whole thing read like a PKD novel. And in the credits there is a reference to "Prisoner clip courtesy of Polygrram.". Now I'm dying here. I didn't notice a Prisoner clip. Can anyone enlighten me?????? You know my obsession with the Prisoner... Be Seeing You. ps: Oops, you know who I meant... Giger. Sheesh. I can spell Sid Mead at least. ;-) pps: Am making a kids game right now and for once it doesn't have to be dark and moody, bleeding edge, coolest weapons around kinda crap. Refreshing! "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:16:50 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? In a message dated 4/16/99 6:50:11 AM, ljl@w-rabbit.com writes: << Just got Steve Earle's "El Corazon"-- I am REALLY REALLY liking this record! How come none of yous guys ever mentioned this album before? (Or was I asleep with my strawberry?) So he has 2 other records out? Are they just as good? I very much liked the stuff he did with Jill Sobule on "Happy Town" (another grossly underrated record!). >> A good deal more than two records, I think. I'm not sure how many, but enough so that there's an "Essential Steve Earle" from a few years back. There's a really new release out by Earle and the Del McCoury Band -- I haven't heard it, but it's sold pretty well so far. I hear that it's "bluegrassy." Oh, I think "Copper Town" is supposed to be one of his better works. Someone else will probably be able to give you a lot more info than this, but it's a start :-) - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: what about Steve Earle? do you think he would have sex with me? On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, lj lindhurst wrote: > Just got Steve Earle's "El Corazon"-- I am REALLY REALLY liking this > record! How come none of yous guys ever mentioned this album before? (Or > was I asleep with my strawberry?) So he has 2 other records out? Are they > just as good? I very much liked the stuff he did with Jill Sobule on > "Happy Town" (another grossly underrated record!). I guess you weren't listening, lj! ;-) I voted El Corazon one of my top 10 of 1997. By my reckoning, he has about 10 regular albums and 2 or 3 comps. I have his first three albums, Guitar Town, Exit O, and Copperhead Road in addition to El Corazon. Guitar Town is a classic -- great alt.country in the Jason and the Scorchers meets Gram Parsons meets Dwight Yoakum vein. Exit O is more of the same, but the material is a tad weaker. Copperhead Road is much harder, much louder, and much darker. I think he was pretty "high on the horse" during the making of that album. However, it is a brilliant bit of dark, existential, white-trash sturm and drang. I recommend all three in the order of their release. BTW -- As well as recording quite a few albums, Earle has written a buttload of songs for many other artists. Frankly though, those I've heard do not sound like material appropriate for Earle himself. Maybe that's why he gave them away. Earle is one of those classic country stories. He's gone through it all: alcohol, drugs, violent episodes, prison, etc. Sort of a latter day update of Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard. Glen sez check it out! Cheers! - -Glen- )+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net )+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 16:18:48 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Personal Question about Spanish Excuse me for tapping into the amassed wisdom of Feg kind again, but I need a Spanish speaker to help me with something for one of my Web pages. If anyone knows how "The Mirror of Don Quixote" would be rendered in Spanish, please email me privately! Thanks, El Cordoniz Grande +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven." --Psalms 105:40 (Also see Exodus 16:13 and Numbers 11:31-34 for more starry wisdom) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:27:45 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: testing a hypothesis paul k & the prayers saratoga whee waiting for the "ennh..." - -- pathetic d "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #140 *******************************