From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #127 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 6 1999 Volume 08 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Robyn tour ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney [Joel Mullins ] Gnat mounts her hobby horse and gallops away (99% XTC content) [Natalie J] Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Saturday's Largo show ["Jason R. Thornton" ] then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. [DDerosa5@aol.com] Cd Length [Michael Wolfe ] Re: then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. ["Chadbury the butler" ] re: Saturday Largo Show [Griffith Davies ] Re: sundry and various [Eb ] Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney [Ross Overbury ] Re: Car Length [Bayard ] RE: then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. [Chris Franz Subject: Re: Robyn tour >there are working on plans for Storefront Hitchcock to do a tour of >one-night-stands with Robyn singing some songs to open the film. He said >they'll definitely show in LA, and are working out the rest of the details >as I write this Hmmmm...you don't suppose there'll be a date scheduled for Fremont, Nebraska, do you? Oh. Right. Didn't think so. *sigh* Paul Christian Glenn | "Besides being complicated, trance@radiks.net | reality, in my experience, is http://x-real.firinn.org | usually odd." - C.S. Lewis Now Reading: "Paul: The Mind of the Apostle" by A.N. Wilson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:23:13 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney Natalie Jacobs wrote: > > >now playing: Sleater-Kinney, very good. > > Et tu, Eb? > > I must be the only person on the face of the planet who doesn't think that > Sleater-Kinney are the saviors of guitar pop. All I can think of when I > listen to "The Hot Rock" is that they sound almost exactly like the > Throwing Muses, only not nearly as good. I haven't the foggiest idea what > all the hype is about. Don't worry Natalie? You're not the only one. I saw them in Austin near the beginning of March just to see exactly what all the hype was about. I left in the middle of their set though. It didn't grab me and it was too loud and I'm getting too old and I was way too tired to be standing up in a bar listening to loud music. They were okay, but the "saviors of guitar pop"??? I don't think so. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:35:58 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: issues... Dolphings in the mist: I somewhat agree with Dolph on the FZ stuff. I listen to all of _Apostrophe_ and just "Montana" on that disc usually. _Apostrophe_ is one of the greatest Albums ever recorded, _Overnight Sensation_ isn't. That said, it is nice to have for free. I do know some Zappaphiles who think that OS is his best, tho. Furthermore, I'm going to send away for Dolph's double secret other CD that he's afraid to tell you all about on this list. I think I can brave his "issues." Gong on Remote: this somehow reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons in which Garrison Keillor is on PBS and Homer is whacking the TV and yelling "Be more funny!" I'm sorry, I'm sure none of you could handle my constant barrage of random associations that crash around in my head. I try to keep them from coming out into my keyboard. I imagine a lot of people spend a lot of money on drugs just to feel kind of like I do "normally." For those of you who are curious, it's a little like combining hallucinations with Tourette Syndrome- only I can drive a car and don't have sudden muscular movements, for the most part. Eddie: I'm with FegX. Eddie can say whatever the fuck he wants about whatever the fuck he wants. He's earned the right to spew the richness of his seeds here on this list. Fegmaniax is about us, it isn't necessarily about Robyn Hitchcock all the time. There is fegmaniax-announce for people who can't deal with Eddie, Gnat, Dolph, rUss, Tom, Bayard, Ross, Michael, woj, Quail, eLJay, Dlang, Bayard, Jeme, Uberglen, ChrisF, Eb, James, Sharkboy, etc... although there are special understandings for those who can't deal with Sharkboy- he's kind of odd. Apologies to those I left out. It is also okay to play nicely with the other children here. You don't want to piss off Bayard and Michael Wolfe here- you won't know what hit you. Baseball: the Oakland "Athletics" won their season opener yesterday and begin the season in first place- but since the first day of spring training they've been saying "wait 'til next year." Randi: where are you? We miss you. Happies all, - -Sharkboy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:18:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: keanu &c. On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Eb wrote: > Out of curiosity, who here saw "The Matrix"? Opinions? The buzz on > newsgroups about this film is absolutely unbelievable. But I'm > wondering if that's just because of the sci-fi geek/computer geek > overlap. i liked it a lot, but i suspect this was because it exceeded my expectations by so much. great special effects, tolerable acting, good application of video-game and comic-book visual styles to the screen. and it's just thoughtful enough that it would be very cool if it were the action hit of the pre-Star Wars part of the year. it's also the second Keanu Reeves action movie with crypto-Buddhism in it. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:20:05 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Gnat mounts her hobby horse and gallops away (99% XTC content) >and they annoy the hell out of me >on Black Sea which in original form is probably one of my ten favorite >records of all time. Oh, hell yeah! I hardly ever listen to it anymore because I can't be bothered to program the bonus tracks out. They're not bad songs, but I don't want to hear "The Somnambulist" leading into "Towers of London" - it makes my teeth grind. I also sometimes program the bonus tracks out of "Mummer," because I'm used to hearing it without them (I bought it on vinyl originally - my very first XTC record... *sigh*). "Drums & Wires" and "Big Express" sound fine with the bonus tracks, IMO, but I've never heard them without. All I know is, if they ever try sticking bonus tracks on "English Settlement," there's gonna be some serious butt-kicking! By me, no less! >I dunno... it's hard to imagine someone hearing "Go 2" today and having the >same reaction as someone hearing it back then, Uh... *did* anyone actually listen to it back then? >before millions (...uh, okay, "a handful") of bands began trying (and >failing!) to imitate it. Could you name those bands, please? ;) n., engaging in a bit of random JH3-teasing, in honor of spring p.s. A friend of mine is wild about "The Matrix." On the other hand, he likes long boring arty movies that make my butt hurt. So I can't trust his taste. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:24:17 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney >> >now playing: Sleater-Kinney, very good. >> >> All I can think of when I listen to "The Hot Rock" is that they sound >> almost exactly like the Throwing Muses, only not nearly as good. > >It didn't grab me and it was too loud and I'm getting too old and I was >way too tired to be standing up in a bar listening to loud music. They >were okay, but the "saviors of guitar pop"??? I don't think so. i don't know if they're the "saviors of guitar pop" (whatever the hell that is) but they do have a sound that's fresh and expressive. the angst and vocals are vaguely reminescent of the muses (as if it's a bad thing); but that's as far as it goes. c'mon, how many riot grrrl bands could you say sound like that? and how many of them suck? sleater-kinney keep coming up with the goods. and "i was too tired"? what's up with that? don't condemn them because you're too old and crotchedy to stand up in a bar. do what i do and find a wall to lean against or take a nap before the show. sheesh! i can't stop listening to 'the hot rock'. and i couldn't stop listening to 'dig me out' a couple of years ago. i love the riffs and the lyrics. what else do you want? oh yeah, saviors of guitar pop. could someone tell me what that is please? ken "no millenial fear" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:24:26 -0700 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Pomme de Venus I had a weird experience today... Every TV in Canada gets the french channel, usually channel 3, broadcasting out of Quebec. Today I happened to turn to it and there was an image of Apple Venus vol. 1 filling up the screen, with the song "Easter Parade" playing full blast (with that awful line, "her breasts swell and awake from sleep" - XTC seems to be able to get away with a lot more of that sort of thing than other bands). Then it switched to a studio, where a woman and two balding middle aged men were sitting behind a desk and talking in french. For a few seconds I thought they had Andy and Colin there, fluently bilingual! I soon realized it was just a couple of critics. Although my French is very rusty, I was able to understand just about every word of what they said about the album: mentions of "big orchestral sound","Blur", and "Beatles". Funny how mediocre music critics sound the same no matter what language they're jabbering in. - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:42:48 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: The Matrix are for kids At 01:14 AM 4/6/99 -0800, Eb wrote: >Out of curiosity, who here saw "The Matrix"? Opinions? The buzz on >newsgroups about this film is absolutely unbelievable. But I'm wondering if >that's just because of the sci-fi geek/computer geek overlap. "Absolutely unbelievable" would be an unbelievable exaggeration. It's a fun enough flick, and I enjoyed watching it, but it didn't make me go "wow." Well, visually, in a few places, it might have, but so did "Titanic," "Armageddon," "The Pillow Book," "Lost in Space," and "Godzilla." "Entertaining fluff" would probably be my best description. But, it WAS much more entertaining than the five artless duds I just mentioned. Keanananu played the one type of role he's good at: a somewhat clueless, often confused, fairly deadpan individual. The plot's another *which-reality-is-real* PKD ripoff, like every Star Trek holodeck episode, but they gave away the answer way too early. Then, the story became your basic good-guy/bad-guy action-hero tale, with an occasional clever one-liner. It's WAY too fucking melodramatic for its own good, especially the idiotic religious and psychic bullshit, and the heavy handed know-it-all Morpheus character. Well, the little kid bending the spoon *DID* make sense, but all the precognition/savior shit was extremely silly and out-of-place. If only they could make a sci-fi film that DOESN'T resort to inane fantasy wizardry and pretentious pseudo-mythology. When at a loss at how to get any character from Point A to Point B, which seemed to be, well, every 5 minutes, the filmwriters just seemed to say "because the Fates said so." There was absolutely NO justification behind any plot twist, they just twisted the plot to keep you "on the edge of your seat." "We're doing this now, because of this out of the blue explanation." How about a sci-fi film, for once, with CHARACTERS, as opposed to Greek gods and 2D comic book super heroes? If they had spent some time actually coming up with a second draft for the script, they might have had a decent movie on their hands. As it was, it was nothing but semi-good looking people and various stereotypes running about with very little point. The reasons for the rules of Matrixland were inadequately explained and seemed tossed in to create false tension and easy ways to kill off secondary characters. That said, there are some well-crafted moments and scenes, it was just all "fit" together in a very, very forced manner - like jamming pieces of jigsaw puzzles together into some hideous montage. All in all, a very Taoistic balance of "neat-o" and "crap." Overall, I'd say "stupid, but stylish." A big videogame, basically, but the audience members weren't able to push any big red buttons. I did see the new "Star Wars" trailer (again) AND the "Wild Wild West" trailer before "The Matrix." "Wild Wild West" looks like it's going to SUCK *BIG* time, but Salma Hayek's in it, so I'll probably go watch it. There was also a trailer for "The Thirteenth Floor," which might also have doubled as a trailer for "The Matrix." Or maybe it's the prequel. I'm not sure. - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:44:24 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Saturday's Largo show At 12:46 AM 4/6/99 PDT, Capitalism Blows wrote, and he can damn well write any fucking thing he wants: >< Sound & Vision> > >cool! Wow! I would have loved to have seen that! >by the way, didja all hear that bowie is going to be a dj on >Rolling Stone's online radio station? Does anyone else besides me get this really queasy feeling whenever Bowie and the internet are mentioned in the same sentence? - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:58:58 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. So shall I assume that none of the fegs have read the Raymond Hitchcock books? I haven't leanred what it means when one query is bypassed while others (such as the impressive ability of cyberpunk movies to fund such cool cinematic technology that they can seem to animate Keanu Reeves' face) get answered--yes, I know I'm not Eb (I'm not worthy...) But, yip yip yip yip yip yip yip If I see Keanu's face when I die, it'll scare me back to life. Then I'll kill myself. dave PS I saw Robyn in a lucid dream last night--asked him if he had a message for the feglist that Eb told him about. He said, "Read my dad's books!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:33:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Cd Length Ross: >> Well, I think that this excerpt fairly well summarizes Russ's >> fine post, so I'll just work off of this. If I've suppressed >> any key points, a thousand pardons. > >Hehehe! Russ doesn't enjoy a CD with bonus cuts. "Like a dish >with the finest salmon you ever tasted and some old leftovers >mixed in" says he. I said it was squid rings on the side; you >can eat them or leave them easily enough. Russ: >??? wasn't me! We have a Russ/Ross mixup of the worst >kind--during a heated debate between Russ & Ross! Nuts. Oy, how incredibly embarassing. Russ, Ross -- my most profound apologies. I'll need a few of those thousand pardons that I begged for other purposes, I think. Both of your posts on this topic have been great, I've enjoyed them very much. Ross again: >I agree with what you said about the side A/B thing. It was >really clever of some of those producers to turn that physical >constraint to their advantage. Hey, you could still hit pause >and go for a pee after "Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite". Yes, you're right -- there's really nothing about the cd format that explicitly *prevents* music from being enjoyed in the same way that one enjoyed it on vinyl. But it's not really what comes naturally on cd, and I think that it's just as important (if not, in fact, moreso) to examine what people get into the habit of doing as it is to examine what it is possible for them to do. Which, come to think of it, is a maxim that can be applied very broadly indeed. Ross yet again: >I don't think there's any need to mourn the passing of the >side break, though, because the same clever sort of people >will just use the new format to their advantage. Right, well, I was trying to talk about more than just the sidebreak. I was trying to address the whole vinyl experience (of which the side break was only the most prominent part) versus the whole cd experience. My main point was that the sidebreak limited the running time for a continuous program to a length that one could comfortably wrap one's mind around, and that vinyl encourages people to listen to the program straight through, in the pre-ordained order (Random access is possible on vinyl, but for the most part it's not the habit that it encourages.) This combination of factors helps to elevate a thoughtfully arranged collection of songs into something more than the sum of the parts. Contrast that with the cd, which has the longer running time and random access. Both of these admittedly wonderful features conspire to take that ineffable something extra that you find in the best albums and leave it by the wayside. Personally, with a few exceptions, I find that in sitting down to listen to a cd half of it gets wasted due to my focus wandering. Songs 5-9 of a 12 or 14 track program would take on a little more zing if they had a sense of closing out or opening up a side, as the case may be. The exceptions to this are notable, though. As much as I like Sgt. Pepper as an LP, I think Abbey Road works best on cd. The reprise of You Never Give Me Your Money works better because the original iteration feels so much more fresh. Plus, the transition from She's So Heavy to Here Comes the Sun is just priceless. I assumed that George Martin always meant for them to be so neatly juxtaposed until I heard that was where the original side break came. Built to Spill's Perfect From Now On manages to use its long running time to achieve a dense and unified texture that I doubt comes through as well on vinyl -- it's like it's a fugue, as opposed to the traditional album's sonata. And of course, there's everybody's favorite example of reveling in the cd format, They Might Be Giants' Apollo 18. That one would be completely pointless on vinyl. It's funny to think of Fingertips as being subversive post-modernism in so many ways, but there you have it. So, risking serious bodily injury, I sit on the fence yet again: 1) The inherent idiosyncracies of vinyl combined to create one kind of listening experience which I found quite satisfying. 2) The cd format has its own set of idiosyncracies that modify the listening experience, making it less satisfying if one produces and/or listens to albums under the old rules. 3) Cd's rules can be taken advantage of, similarly to the way that vinyl's were (see Tom Petty and They Might Be Giants.) Russ: >> we have a tendency to reduce albums to simple >> collections of songs. > >which, incidentally is where the word "album" (as it pertains to >music) comes from...an album used to be a collection of single >song records packaged together in an album, much like a photo >album. So maybe we've just come full circle. Really? I didn't make the connection between those big boxes that 78's came in and photo albums -- I just took album to be more abstract, a collection of related media. - -Michael Wolfe np: The Pixies - Surfer Rosa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:09 +0000 From: "Chadbury the butler" Subject: Re: then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. Dave said: > PS I saw Robyn in a lucid dream last night--asked him if he had a message for > the feglist that Eb told him about. He said, "Read my dad's books!" When I mention lucid dreams to your average person, I get nothing but funny looks. Robyn fans seem to have a high incidence of lucid dreams. I do it myself, when my life allows me enough contemplative time. - -- Chadbury, the real butler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:00:43 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney Ken Ostrander wrote: > > >> >now playing: Sleater-Kinney, very good. > >> > >> All I can think of when I listen to "The Hot Rock" is that they sound > >> almost exactly like the Throwing Muses, only not nearly as good. > > > >It didn't grab me and it was too loud and I'm getting too old and I was > >way too tired to be standing up in a bar listening to loud music. They > >were okay, but the "saviors of guitar pop"??? I don't think so. > > i don't know if they're the "saviors of guitar pop" (whatever the hell that is) but they do have a sound that's fresh and expressive. the angst and vocals are vaguely reminescent of the muses (as if it's a bad thing); but that's as far as it goes. c'mon, how many riot grrrl bands could you say sound like that? and how many of them suck? sleater-kinney keep coming up with the goods. Well, I wasn't too keen on the vocals. That girl's voice just didn't do it for me. On the other hand, I could watch Janet Weiss play drums all fucking day! She's so small and cute and her drumming is so kick ass! But they just didn't do it for me on the night I saw them. > and "i was too tired"? what's up with that? don't condemn them because you're too old and crotchedy to stand up in a bar. do what i do and find a wall to lean against or take a nap before the show. sheesh! I would have loved to have taken a nap before the show, not that it wold have done any good. I was in the middle of a long, drunken Spring Break trip. I hadn't been sleeping much, had been drinking a lot, and driving all over Texas going from one show to another. I saw Elliott Smith two nights in a row and then saw Sleater-Kinney the very next night. By that time, I was just way too tired for their music. I might have had a completely different experience if I'd have seen them at the beginning of my trip. And I'm not condemning them. For whatever reason, they just didn't turn me on. > i can't stop listening to 'the hot rock'. and i couldn't stop listening to 'dig me out' a couple of years ago. i love the riffs and the lyrics. what else do you want? oh yeah, saviors of guitar pop. could someone tell me what that is please? Well, "saviors of guitar pop" was not my phrase. I don't think it needs to be saved. It's alive and well as far as I'm concerned. I was just commenting on my experience at the show. I haven't even heard a CD of theirs, so I could be WAY wrong in my estimation of them. But the show didn't make me want to buy a CD either. Basically, my experience at seeing S-K was somewhat of a disappointment. Maybe I'll go buy a CD. If I don't like it, will you refund my money? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:15:03 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Cd Length Michael Wolfe wrote: > > So, risking serious bodily injury, I sit on the fence yet again: > 1) The inherent idiosyncracies of vinyl combined to create one > kind of listening experience which I found quite satisfying. 2) > The cd format has its own set of idiosyncracies that modify the > listening experience, making it less satisfying if one produces > and/or listens to albums under the old rules. 3) Cd's rules can > be taken advantage of, similarly to the way that vinyl's were > (see Tom Petty and They Might Be Giants.) I agree with this. CDs are a different experience, but that doesn't make it better or worse. The only disadvantage that I see to CDs is that people don't know the names of songs anymore. They just know "track 2" or "track 7". That's what gave me the idea to really fuck with people. Here's the track listing for a CD I'm gonna record someday, though I haven't written the songs yet. I just have the titles: 1. Track 3 2. Track 7 3. Track 4 4. Track 1 5. Track 2 and so on and so on.... And what about the 8-track listening experience? Now that's frustrating. Am I the only one on the list who still has a working 8-track player hooked up to his stereo? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: re: Saturday Largo Show Chris Posted: Robyn came out in exactly the same outfit, though awfully disheveled this time - Gene Hackman Queen Elvis Viva Sea-Tac Balloon Man Wild Mountain Thyme I'll Get You (Beatles) It's Obvious (Barrett) Sleeping With Your Devil Mask (!) Trams of Old London Crystal Ship (Doors) All Tomorrow's Parties (Velvets) Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus (!!) I Feel Beautiful Antwoman We Are The Underneath My notes: When Grant entered, Robyn switched to electric guitar. Jon actually entered after "Trams" because he played some stellar piano on "Cystal Ship" through "I feel Beautiful". Then Jon moved to drums for the last two songs of the set. If these last two songs are any indication of the sound of the new album, as noted by Eb, it will certainly be a rawk album. "Antwoman" was totally rawkin in hair band way. Robyn even did the phoney posturing and finished with a visually stunning guitar solo (and I mean visual because he forgot how to play and just ran his wildly moving fingers up and down the fretboard - kinda like something you would see in a Van Halen video, for example). This rawk version of "Antwoman" leaves me anxious for the new album. griffith ps - I split near the end of Neil Finn's set. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:05:21 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: sundry and various Ethyl: >Or the Car 54 Where Are You? movie? Already happened about five years ago. Gnat: >Et tu, Eb? > >I must be the only person on the face of the planet who doesn't think that >Sleater-Kinney are the saviors of guitar pop. All I can think of when I >listen to "The Hot Rock" is that they sound almost exactly like the >Throwing Muses, only not nearly as good. I haven't the foggiest idea what >all the hype is about. Well, firstly, I wouldn't really call them "guitar pop." Nor would anyone else who has seen the band live, I would think. And yeah, they do sound like Throwing Muses to a certain extent, and I do prefer Throwing Muses. But at the same time, Sleater-Kinney don't have any of the egghead-wank quality that the Muses have -- they always "rock." For that reason, I don't see Sleater-Kinney ever becoming as tedious as a certain percentage of the Muses' catalog. And Corin Tucker's voice has a startling, in-your-face edge that Kristin Hersh hasn't had for years and years, and that excites me. I'm big on vocal charisma and character. Also, I agree with someone else, who said that guitar pop doesn't need a savior. That aesthetic will never die. However, I *can* see someone claiming that Sleater-Kinney are saviors of another kind. I've been feeling rather sheepish lately, because it seems like at least half the new albums I like have a strong appeal based in carefully constructed textures and arrangements. Studio wizardry. And I don't think my tastes have really changed much -- it just seems like in the post-grunge era, there aren't too many interesting no-frills rock bands around anymore. So Sleater-Kinney is a breath of fresh air for me. The Hot Rock is the best new release of its kind I've gotten in quite awhile. Maybe I'll think differently when I get the new Frank Black. But probably not. >How about a sci-fi film, for once, with CHARACTERS, as opposed to Greek >gods and 2D comic book super heroes? As for me, I'm wondering what happened to sci-fi films that WEREN'T action films. I guess Star Wars destroyed that segment of the genre for good. It's so rare today to see a sci-fi film which isn't basically an old Western transported to outer space. Sci-fi has become almost synonymous with "lots of shoot-outs, with added special effects," and that's annoying. Happieboy: >this somehow reminds me of the episode of the >Simpsons in which Garrison Keillor is on PBS and Homer is >whacking the TV and yelling "Be more funny!" Oh, man. I *instantly* flash on that line, any time I see/hear Keillor's name mentioned. Classic. Seems like I once bought a cheap copy of Apostrophe, and traded it back. Hm. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Basically, my experience at > seeing S-K was somewhat of a disappointment. Maybe I'll go buy a CD. > If I don't like it, will you refund my money? You know what? Here in Montreal, HMV will refund your money if you don't like the CD. I've done it more than once. I wonder if that's their policy in the States, too? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Cd Length On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > And what about the 8-track listening experience? Now that's > frustrating. Am I the only one on the list who still has a working > 8-track player hooked up to his stereo? Nope! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Car Length > > And what about the 8-track listening experience? Now that's > > frustrating. Am I the only one on the list who still has a working > > 8-track player hooked up to his stereo? a friend of mine has one in his car (1966 Bonneville - older than him!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:27:59 -0700 From: Chris Franz Subject: RE: then you're dust, and unfootnoted too. "The Canaris Legacy" and "Archangel 006" are both at the San Francisco public library, and I read them a while back. Both followed the same basic formula, to wit: during WWII, and ordinary British person comes into posession of some startling bit of information that could alter the outcome of the war. So every secret service in Europe is after him as he tries to escape back to England. Both were fairly engrossing, though I found the endings unsatisfying. I can't comment on Percy or any others, though. - - Chris ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #127 *******************************