From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #126 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 6 1999 Volume 08 : Number 126 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: CD(R) [steve ] Re: Saturday's Largo show [Plpalmer@ix.netcom.com] oh, i forgot to ask ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: totally self-indulgent question ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Saturday's Largo show [Eb ] Re: very , very strange days. [dlang ] Oh, all-knowledgable Fegs... [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Cd's/too long ["Chadbury the butler" ] Re: CD(R) ["Chadbury the butler" ] Re: The Matrix [steve ] the matrix ["chad leahy" ] Re: CDs/too long ["Russ Reynolds" ] RE: Shut up little man/FZ ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Re: The Matrix [Ethyl Ketone ] RE: CDs/too long ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Re: CDs/too long ["JH3" ] Re: the boy who talked to homing beacons [Michael R Godwin ] Robyn tour ["Angel Jones" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:40:25 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: CD(R) Bayard: >if you think cd's are too long, i wince, shudder and shrug to think how >you will feel about audio DVD's (or whatever takes the place of CD's) as >no doubt they will hold many hours or even days of music.. Don't forget that they will have a higher sampling rate and word length, which will eat up a lot of the storage, even for two channel stereo. The big selling point for DVD audio seems to be multi-channel (up to six). Sony and Phillips are still fighting with all the rest of the hardware companies over format. Their DVD will be compatible with current CD players, the other format will not. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:58:56 -0700 From: Plpalmer@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Saturday's Largo show I taped this show. It fit nicely onto a three hour DAT. I was lucky to get it. I bought new batteries, but for some reason they were running out after Robyn's first set. I had to run out and by new batteries in between. Neil Finn's set as near as I can figure was: Coming Into Los Angeles Private Universe The Buglar Song Lester Into Temptation Fall At Your Feet Four Seasons In One Day Then Grant Lee Phillips did: Honey Don't Think Shallow End and Neil ended with: Sinner I have to order some more three hours DATs, so be a little patient with the trade requests. Peter Eric Loehr wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris Franz wrote: > > (lots of stuff about the show deleted...) > > Wow, Chris -- thanks for the description. If anyone has, or somehow comes > across a tape of this show, PLEASE let me know. A bunch of > seldom-performed RH and Neil Finn? I'd really like to hear the whole > night. > > Eric > > > I'll Get You (Beatles) > > It's Obvious (Barrett) > > Sleeping With Your Devil Mask (!) > > > > Trams of Old London > > Crystal Ship (Doors) > > All Tomorrow's Parties (Velvets) > > Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus (!!) > > > > I Feel Beautiful > > Antwoman > > We Are The Underneath > > > > At this point Robyn and co. retired, claiming they would go backstage to > > drink, but saying a REALY special guest would be showing up shortly > > (causing a mock indignant expression from Grant). Speculation ran > > rampant, as you'd imagine, until Flanagan appeared and introduced Neil > > Finn. > > > > Neil played a short (but lovely) set, mostly of fairly obscure songs. > > One of them he said his 3-year-old son collaborated with him on; one > > other he'd never before done on stage. A wonderful little interlude. > > > > Robyn, Grant, and Jon came back out, and Neil announced that he was > > going to do something he'd always wanted to do... play the drums. Which > > he did for the rest of the night. > > > > Visions of Johanna > > I Got A Feeling > > 909 > > Don't Let Me Down > > Wipeout > > Country Rose (?) > > She Said > > Arnold Layne > > Sound & Vision > > All You Need Is Love > > Soul Kitchen > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:40:40 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: oh, i forgot to ask is the bar hosted or no? From: Eb Reply-To: Eb To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: totally self-indulgent question Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:43:36 -0800 What's a dependably good wedding gift for an unregistered couple, where you've never even met the bride? I suddenly have a wedding dumped in my lap...it happens over the weekend. (Just email me with ideas.) Eb, still sick with Robyngerms Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:41:24 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: totally self-indulgent question how much are you wanting to spend? start with wesley willis fiasco, SPOOKYDISHARMONIOUSCONFLICTHELLRIDE, methinks. From: Eb Reply-To: Eb To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: totally self-indulgent question Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:43:36 -0800 What's a dependably good wedding gift for an unregistered couple, where you've never even met the bride? I suddenly have a wedding dumped in my lap...it happens over the weekend. (Just email me with ideas.) Eb, still sick with Robyngerms Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:46:50 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Saturday's Largo show thanks for the info., chris! see eb, don't you feel like a nut now, robyn having played so many songs by your favorite artist, and you home "sick"? < Balloon Man> new story? < Trams of Old London> wow! how was this? if i had to choose two lines to listen to on repeat for the rest of my life, they might just be, "in the blitz they never closed/though they blew up half the roads < Sound & Vision> cool! by the way, didja all hear that bowie is going to be a dj on Rolling Stone's online radio station? homer have a song called Shallow End. same one? http://leb.net/iac/ "...the people who in most places in the world provide opposition leadership are, here in America, holed up in academic sinecures arguing about the ethics of lunch and whether or not to hire an immigrant maid. The two-party dictatorship is literally destroying the country and Clinton is the worst president we've ever had -- much worse than Nixon and Reagan combined on everything from the environment to social and economic policy, and where's the left? Sitting by the phone hoping to get on one of those Dead White Man TV talk panels....frankly, these days every time I even see a copy of The Nation, In These Times, or, worst of all, Mother Jones, I feel like punching the first pony tailed, nasal whinnying, Virtual Asseted, public-radioed, candy-assed, so-called leftist who comes through my door. Unfortunately, they come through my door all the time and I'm too old and physically decrepit to carry out a decent physical assault. It's all very frustrating." --Bruce Anderson, Anderson Valley Advertiser Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:14:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Saturday's Largo show Eddie: >thanks for the info., chris! see eb, don't you feel like a nut now, >robyn having played so many songs by your favorite artist, and you home >"sick"? Who do you mean, Dylan or Beatles? (And I've said before that I'm not particularly fond of Hitchcock as a covers artist, and specifically when it comes to Dylan. Anyway, he played a few of those covers the LAST time I saw him at Largo.) However, I was kinda intrigued that RH played "I'll Get You," just because that would be on my short list of the Beatles' worst songs, and I wonder why he chose it. >Trams of Old London > >wow! how was this? if i had to choose two lines to listen to on repeat >for the rest of my life, they might just be, "in the blitz they never >closed/though they blew up half the roads Off the top of my head, I can't even recall which album this is from. I'll go look it up. And I'm feeling a bit better now. Thanks for all the cards and flowers. Out of curiosity, who here saw "The Matrix"? Opinions? The buzz on newsgroups about this film is absolutely unbelievable. But I'm wondering if that's just because of the sci-fi geek/computer geek overlap. I'd also be curious if anyone saw that would-be Spinal Tap-esque film a few months ago...I believe it was called "Still Crazy"? This was probably brought up already, but a L.A. concert website which I often check lists Robyn also playing Largo on the 30th. Eb, "c###" at large ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:09:12 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re: very , very strange days. larry the lamb had the nerve to speak thus , > Don't you have any friends that you can spew your >mindless dribble upon? Larry. __________ Listen buster,thats fighting talk.I just don't think you realise who you are dissing here. This is EDDIE TEWS, buddy, he is a list INSTITUTION, he can say ANYTHING on this list for as long as he goddamed wants and you should be getting down on your goddam virtual knees and thanking the good feglord that you have been amongst the privileged few who have access to his thoughts !.People have been known to rip their heads off to hear Eddies words of wisdom and you get it for free, don't you know when you are onto a good thing ?. Obviously not. INGRATE! I've a good mind to sic Friends of Feg onto you, we're getting pretty bored now that the Quail has stopped trying to dominate the world, so watch it ! FEG X ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:21:59 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Oh, all-knowledgable Fegs... ... I need your help. Since I'll be leaving the University of Michigan, I'll also be losing access to their computer facilities. I found a new e-mail account with a local freenet, but I still need a place to host my website. I don't want to pay for it if at all possible, and I refuse to resort to Geocities. Can anyone give me a hand with this? Thank you, O Fegs... n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:00:55 +0000 From: "Chadbury the butler" Subject: Re: Cd's/too long Michael said: > Russ parlefegated: > >I just don't get it. Some of you don't like the bonus tracks > >stuck in with a re-release, or don't like all of the tracks in a > >new release. Can't you just skip them, or stop the CD when it > >hits the dreaded "bonus" track section? Honestly!!! > > Well, I think that this excerpt fairly well summarizes Russ's > fine post, so I'll just work off of this. If I've suppressed any > key points, a thousand pardons. Hehehe! Russ doesn't enjoy a CD with bonus cuts. "Like a dish with the finest salmon you ever tasted and some old leftovers mixed in" says he. I said it was squid rings on the side; you can eat them or leave them easily enough. I agree with what you said about the side A/B thing. It was really clever of some of those producers to turn that physical constraint to their advantage. Hey, you could still hit pause and go for a pee after "Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite". I don't think there's any need to mourn the passing of the side break, though, because the same clever sort of people will just use the new format to their advantage. Pass the pepper squid rings, please. - -- Ross Chadbury (Bonus cuts, yes; spectator sports, no) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:16:40 +0000 From: "Chadbury the butler" Subject: Re: CD(R) Date sent: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:36:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: fiends before the shrine Subject: CD(R) Send reply to: Bayard > if you think cd's are too long, i wince, shudder and shrug to think how > you will feel about audio DVD's (or whatever takes the place of CD's) as > no doubt they will hold many hours or even days of music... surely the > players will have more advanced playlist personalization features a la > computer cd players... but bands will no doubt always be hard pressed to > get the record co's to pay them for more than 12 songs! I bet they fill them up with non-audio bonus material. That'll eat up that extra space. Anyone for shots of Robyn glowering at those cameras he hates? Midi versions of all songs so you can replace the harmonica with the balafon samples they included on the disk? Sing along lyrics with a bouncing happy face marker and hypertext links to encyclopedia entries for all the words? Can't DVD players play audio CDs? My guess is that the CD format is here until the audiophile market demands 24-bit, 90Khz sound, which is starting to hit the home computer audio market already. At that point it becomes the standard product, with DVD taking the role of premium product until the technology becomes so cheap it doesn't matter any more. But your CDs will still be playable. Look at how long record players continued to support 16RPM and 78RPM recordings. They did that because it was easy enough to do it. - -- Chadbury ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:45:27 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: The Matrix Eb: >Out of curiosity, who here saw "The Matrix"? Opinions? The buzz on >newsgroups about this film is absolutely unbelievable. But I'm wondering if >that's just because of the sci-fi geek/computer geek overlap. It's stylish, enjoyable nonsense, with the usual Rob Zombie end title music. The basic plot is exactly the same as Dark City, but with machines in place of the aliens. You're likely to see the Wild Wild West and Star Wars trailers with it. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:01:28 -0500 From: "chad leahy" Subject: the matrix >Out of curiosity, who here saw "The Matrix"? Opinions? The buzz on >newsgroups about this film is absolutely unbelievable. But I'm wondering if >that's just because of the sci-fi geek/computer geek overlap. i saw the matrix twice this past weekend. a terrific movie with a phenomenal concept. it's the best movie i've seen since elizabeth. i had no clue what the movie was about and almost didn't see it because of keanu reeves (who i'm not particularly fond of). he isn't too much of a bother in this film. despite one "cheesily romantic" scene towards the end, i highly recommend the matrix. (that, of course, means nothing to anyone on this list as you don't know my taste in movies).* ;) the real chad *exception: you now know i liked elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:18:12 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: CDs/too long dolph: >I like long CDs -- my attention span runs about an hour. I think it comes >from XTC's Oranges & Lemons, which was probably the first album I ever got >totally obsessive about. That was the first XTC album that was too long, IMO. Not their first double LP, just the first one with too many boring tracks. Most people seem to disagree with me on this. Okay, Mummer was too long, too. It would have been a good EP. Note, BTW, that XTC's early albums were all released with bonus tracks IN THE MIDDLE, or "between sides". I think they enhance "White Music". I think they make Drums & Wires too long (the weaker original tracks are now part of a larger bunch of weaker songs). and they annoy the hell out of me on Black Sea which in original form is probably one of my ten favorite records of all time. Robyn's IODOT CD had four bonus tracks placed in the middle too. Two of those blended nicely, the other two weakened the overall effort ever so slightly, IMO. > I realized that I actually *like* the 20 >minute side length. I enjoy getting up and turning over the record. I >think somehow I feel like I have to do something to earn the right to hear >side 2, and therefore it's more satisfying to do so. hmmm...maybe you'd find television more satisfying if you threw out your remote control, old timer! Eric, I think: >Doesn't it come down to what format you prefer something in? If I >don't want to hear the bonus track stuff I just stop the CD when it gets >there. If you had that mythical Apostrophe/One Size Fits All CD, wouldn't >you say that having Evelyn, A Modified Dog (by the way, one of my faves on >One Size), etc., tacked on the end takes away from the Apostrophe >experience? well, right you are. I *can* stop it at the end and I do. But because it's such a nuisance I play the CD's less. But that's not the point. I guess I equate it to that old Ted Turner colorization controversey...don't mess with the classics! Leave them in their original form so that future generations may experience them as we did! When someone tells me they think most of underwater moonlight is pretty good but they aren't too excited about "dreams" and "vegetable man" and "black snake diamond rock" I shed a tear for them, and for their generation. I also tell them that maybe they need to listen to Black Snake Diamond Rock at a higher volume. - -rUss, viewing the quivering fringe of a special doily ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:32:02 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: Shut up little man/FZ Eb, who dislikes those who toss empty diatribes into the wind, said: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Dolph >you might recall that One Size Fits All is a fave of mine. >Over-nite Sensation, I detest. I haven't heard either of these albums from start to finish, but aren't they fairly similar in sound? No? Or it just that Overnite Sensation contains anti-religion material that antagonizes your own "issues"? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Oh, how adorable! I have "issues"! 8-) That's so cute. Having been recorded with six months of each other, Over-nite Sensation sounds much more like Apostrophe than One Size Fits All. And, no, Over-nite Sensation isn't so much anti-religion. After all, "Camarillo Brillo" finds FZ having a sexual fantasy (albeit a pretty juvenile rock'n'roll one) about a practitioner of Wicca, right? I think what bugs me more about it is that it continues the rather lazy sex-boogie of the Flo-n-Eddie period, only I can't blame it on them because they're not there! And, again, I'm more annoyed by the laziness of the tactic than offended by the "naughtiness." (can you really take "Dirty Love," "Zomby Woof," or lines like "we did it till we were unconcho" seriously enough to get offended? I can't.) Musically, too, it's a little lazy, and includes some of my least favorite vocals on a Zappa record (esp. "50/50"). But there are good things sort of germinating on Over-nite Sensation -- mainly, Ruth Underwood's presence on percussion, which would come to be a key to the FZ band's sound. And I love the last song, "Montana" (though the version on You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol 2 is even more fun than this). The musical ideas are the bridge between the Flo-n-Eddie stuff and the later, better stuff like Apostrophe and One Size. In fact, I used to program the Apo / Over-nite CD so that it would play Apostrophe and "Montana," and nothing else, making what I'd call the ideal 37 minute album out of this material. OK, enough about Zappa. Next post -- XTC! Woohoo, I love this Robyn Hitchcock list! ;-) Dolph np: The Cure, Disintegration (a FABULOUS 70-minute CD) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:34:56 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: CD's/too long sez Michael: >Russ parlefegated: >>I just don't get it. Some of you don't like the bonus tracks >>stuck in with a re-release, or don't like all of the tracks in a >>new release. Can't you just skip them, or stop the CD when it >>hits the dreaded "bonus" track section? Honestly!!! > >Well, I think that this excerpt fairly well summarizes Russ's >fine post ??? wasn't me! We have a Russ/Ross mixup of the worst kind--during a heated debate between Russ & Ross! >For the most part, I agree with Russ. no you don't--you agree with ROSS. > we have a tendency to reduce albums to simple >collections of songs. which, incidentally is where the word "album" (as it pertains to music) comes from...an album used to be a collection of single song records packaged together in an album, much like a photo album. So maybe we've just come full circle. - -rUss (late for work again) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:10:17 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: The Matrix At 6.45 AM -0700 4/6/99, steve wrote: >You're likely to see the Wild Wild West and Star Wars trailers with it. Oh God, I should have guessed they would make a Wild Wild West movie (a show I NEVER missed as a kid I'm embaressed to say). Yikes. When does the Bonanza movie come out? Or the Car 54 Where Are You? movie? Or the Sky King movie? (I loved Sky King but I was really little when it was on so maybe I only think I loved it). Or the Hogans Heroes movie? Fury? National Velvet (a remake of course)? Mister Ed? Alias Smith and Jones? Laugh-In? Hey, I'm still waiting on the Prisoner flick which was supposed to be in production 3 years ago!! Be Seeing You. "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:18:00 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: CDs/too long I like O&L a bunch and I like Queen Elvis a bunch. In '89 I turned 16, and it was sort of The Year Of Awakening for me as music fan, where my allegiance moved from Led Zep and Rush to XTC and Robyn, where my favorite Who record switched from Who's Next to The Who Sell Out. So those will always hold special places for me. I just listened to Mummer in the car on the way here. I really really like it. But yeah, even though I adore "Don't Lose Your Temper," the breaking up of the individual sides of Black Sea is really terrible. (again, another delight of just having bought a turntable -- I own Black Sea on vinyl!) After "No Language In Our Lungs," I just NEED to get up and turn it over. No song should just start up after that one ends. I don't like the Drums & Wires CD, not only because of the ill-placed bonus tracks, but because the mix seems different than the cassette I wore out. I can't hear the guitars as well. And White Music is totally enhanced by the bonus tracks -- especially my favorite early Moulding song, "Heatwave." I don't know WHAT it would take to make me like TV better, Russ. Some sort of miracle. Or just four channels: * weather / traffic (so I make it to w*rk on time and with dry glasses). * basketball. * a version of Comedy Central that just showed very silly things -- Monty Python, Kids In The Hall, good SNL, Whose Line Is It Anyway?... * and a music channel that showed stuff about MUSIC. VH1 is closer than MTV, maybe MuchMusic is the closest thing? As I said, some sort of miracle. Although I'd like a "GONG" button on my remote -- not to dial up Daevid Allen automatically, Quail, sorry -- to just tell crappy TV that I don't approve of it, anytime I want. Dolph, draped across the piano with some surprise np: Emm Gryner, Public ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:14:04 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: CDs/too long Russ rites: >Note, BTW, that XTC's early albums were all released with bonus tracks IN >THE MIDDLE, or "between sides". I think they enhance "White Music". I >think they make Drums & Wires too long... Not "all," my friend. No bonus tracks have ever been added to "Go 2" (unless you count Are You Receiving Me which has been on every version of the album except for the very first issues of the UK vinyl release). So at least *someone* out there knows where to draw the line. >I guess I equate it to that old Ted Turner colorization controversey... >don't mess with the classics! Leave them in their original form so >that future generations may experience them as we did! I dunno... it's hard to imagine someone hearing "Go 2" today and having the same reaction as someone hearing it back then, when it was almost unique, before millions (...uh, okay, "a handful") of bands began trying (and failing!) to imitate it. You might think I'm being facetious, but trust me, no! And I also think that holds true for a lot of so-called "classic" albums. Too much time has passed. That still doesn't necessarily invalidate your point, but at the same time, Russ ol' feller, the fact that you actually feel sorry for the kids who are unwittingly (?) being fed adulterated versions of these old records is emblematic of why those same kids would rather hear music recorded by people of their own generation. Even if they did need us old fogies to "show them the way," they'd hardly want to admit that, would they? Just an observation. And Dave "dlang" Lang writes: >INGRATE! >I've a good mind to sic Friends of Feg onto you, we're getting pretty bored >now that the Quail has stopped trying to dominate the world, so watch it ! Two things here. First, we shouldn't be so hard on Larry. Being married to Liz Taylor would be tough on anyone, and remember, he had that very nasty fall from the balcony recently and he hasn't been himself. He'll come around; just give him time, OK? Second, you haven't been paying attention. The end of Mr. Quail's so-called "campaign for world domination" has led to a flowering of culture throughout the world on a scale hitherto unimaginable. Why, not only is Robyn playing "Trams of Old London" at gigs again, but just yesterday I heard a track from the new XTC album in a sports bar in Galesburg, Illinois, of all places! I just about wet my pants! In fact, I would have, if I hadn't been wearing my trusty waterproof underwear. John H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:16:23 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: the boy who talked to homing beacons On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Chris Franz wrote: > At the risk of being branded a weenie, The first reference to "Direct Me > To The Cheese" that I'm aware of is an interview on 4/15/95, while I > don't believe The Cheese Alarm was unveiled until the Princess Di gig, > 8/31/97. Voyagers on the 'Robyn at Sea' outing will confirm that 'Cheese Alarm' was played as part of the Yarmouth Station set on 15th August 1997. - - Mike "weenier still" Godwin PS I agree with R*ss! Or is it R*ss? (if only he knew the difference between "it's" and "its") PPS to Ben: Syd's 'too musical' interviewer was the late Hans Keller, who once wrote a book of Haydn criticism in _dots_ (musical score, that is) instead of in words. Watch out Georges Perec! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:18:08 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney >now playing: Sleater-Kinney, very good. Et tu, Eb? I must be the only person on the face of the planet who doesn't think that Sleater-Kinney are the saviors of guitar pop. All I can think of when I listen to "The Hot Rock" is that they sound almost exactly like the Throwing Muses, only not nearly as good. I haven't the foggiest idea what all the hype is about. I guess I'm going to be barred from Portland now. n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:42:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: a bitchy cranky post about Sleater-Kinney On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > I must be the only person on the face of the planet who doesn't think > that Sleater-Kinney are the saviors of guitar pop. i thought their second and third albums were very enjoyable, if not brilliant. however, being able to sound like you think you're the first ones to ever think of doing what you're doing lends zip to angry punk music; it absolutely ruins "mature" pop-rock like they're moving toward. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:23:24 -0700 From: "Partridge, John" Subject: RE: The Matrix I'll take a shot at this: 1. I liked it. Mainly for the same reasons I like other SF dystopian action films like Terminator and Robocop. Namely, a fairy tale / morality play delivered in a visually agitated and exceptionally violent package. 2. Some people feel about Keanu Reeves the way I feel about Tony Danza. Don't see the film in that case. 3. Superb use of slow-motion. Better than the Godfather. Maybe better than Six-Million Dollar Man. (No really. SMD might have sucked for a lot of reasons but the slo-mo was outstanding!) 4. This movie is in many ways a straight line extension of other cyberpunk films (Johnny Mnemonic, Strange Days) but I think it is better. I personally find the cyberpunk style overwrought, half-baked, and silly and yet I still enjoyed The Matrix. I recommend seeing the movie. But a) see it in a theatre - it won't work as video; b) go with extremely low expectations; c) be prepared to enjoy with good humor the pretentious-sounding dialog that is the entirely natural result of a movie whose central plot tension is the fate of humankind. Minutiae: There are some nice touches and I always give big bonus points to artists who attend to details. There is very little humor here (unlike Robocop) but what there is works very well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:12:00 +0100 From: "Angel Jones" Subject: Robyn tour Hello Fegs, I talked to David Greenberg, caretaker of the Hitchcock museum and he said that there are working on plans for Storefront Hitchcock to do a tour of one-night-stands with Robyn singing some songs to open the film. He said they'll definitely show in LA, and are working out the rest of the details as I write this, no doubt. That floats my boat. - -Angel ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #126 *******************************