From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #115 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 30 1999 Volume 08 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A feg-numeration [lj lindhurst ] Re: A feg-numeration [Bayard ] Tom Waits [Griffith Davies ] Re: A feg-numeration [Eb ] Re: A feg-numeration [lj lindhurst ] Robyn at Largo [Griffith Davies ] Largo (one more thing) [Griffith Davies ] Re: A feg-numeration [Terrence M Marks ] Largo [Griffith Davies ] Re: A hilariously futile quest [aaron@schubert.eecs.harvard.edu] side-yard ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: unlurking, Association Football, first love and other Mattacks [cinde] Re: lost books [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] CDDB alternative [no RH] [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] RE: The future of walkmans [Michael R Godwin ] Robyn/Feg/OTC dream [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: A feg-numeration [steve ] Sailing the seas of Feg: a nautical tale [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: The Apples in Stereo [Eb ] Re: The Apples in Stereo [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: The Apples in Stereo [Mike Runion ] Re: The Apples in Stereo (!) [Eb ] Apples In Mononucleosis ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Mini Disc Help [Griffith Davies ] Re: Mini Disc Help [Eric Loehr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:24:15 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: A feg-numeration >5. Chris Gross. Again, a misnomer as he isn't gross at all. And despite >his sigfile, he's a human and a damn fine one at that. If he would just >shut the hell up once in awhile. "grosse" in French, means "Big". And for any of us who know Chris-- I mean, REALLY know him in a hot tub kinda way-- you will know that this is not a misnomer. snicker snicker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: A feg-numeration and of course, those of us who know LJ really really well can attest to what those initials stand for... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:41:32 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Tom Waits Just found out that Tom Waits is taping an episode of "Storytellers" for VH1 this Thursday night. That is all of the information I have (do not know location or time). griffith ps - did my last message about Robyn playing at Largo this weekend make it? I didn't see it in the last digest. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:55:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: A feg-numeration Baird: >and of course, those of us who know LJ really really well can attest to >what those initials stand for... Lick Job? Loose Jowls? Lemon Juice? Likes Jam? Lear Jet? Luscious Jackson? Lionel Jefferson? I'm stumped. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:02:49 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: A feg-numeration >Baird: >>and of course, those of us who know LJ really really well can attest to >>what those initials stand for... > >Lick Job? >Loose Jowls? >Lemon Juice? >Likes Jam? >Lear Jet? >Luscious Jackson? >Lionel Jefferson? > >I'm stumped. > >Eb Quail: please commence beating. Thank you. =============================== LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com =============================== "If I find a coin on the ground I PICK UP Regardless of its later Dispositions." --Yukio Murakami ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Robyn at Largo I guess my previous message did NOT go through (I'm having a fuck of a time with my computer). Here is the deal: Per usual, Jon Brion is playing on Friday (2 April) night. Robyn will be joining him on stage for part of the night. On Saturday (3 April) Robyn will be performing a full set (and who knows what else). Largo is located at 432 North Faifax Avenue (between Melrose Avenue & Beverly Boulevard) in Los Angeles. To make reservations, call 323-852-1073 or fax 323-852-1851. griffith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:06:34 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Largo (one more thing) Check out this nice (slow) site about largo: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/1899/largo.html griffith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:11:49 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: A feg-numeration On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > Lick Job? > Loose Jowls? > Lemon Juice? > Likes Jam? > Lear Jet? > Luscious Jackson? > Lionel Jefferson? My vote says LJ was named after the blues man Lemon Jefferson. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:40:35 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Largo Fegs, I did my morning routine of calling Largo to see who is playing. Much to my pleasant surprise, some guy named Robyn Hitchcock is playing there this week. As standard on Fridays, Jon Brion is performing with special guests (this time it is Robyn). On Saturday, 3 April, Robyn perfoms. Call Largo for reservations at 323-852-1073 or fax them at 323-852-1851. Largo is located at 432 North Fairfax Avenue (between Melrose Avenue and Beverly Boulevard) Los Angeles, CA 90036. Check out a Largo related site at www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/1899/Largo.html griffith
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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:25:49 -0500 (EST) From: aaron@schubert.eecs.harvard.edu Subject: Re: A hilariously futile quest On Sun, 28 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > something about critics being "people who can't write, writing for > people who can't read." i believe there's a bit about "interviewing people who can't talk" or something similar in there. a nice quote from Havelock Ellis's The Dance Of Life: "The art of dancing stands at the source of all the arts that express themselves first in the human person. The art of building, or architecture, is the beginning of all the arts that lie outside the person, and in the end they unite." a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:52:09 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: side-yard here's the really freaky part, for me. i can count up to exactly four in urdu. so when they showed the taj mahal, and everyone said "char" (apparently it's the same in hindi as in urdu), i 'bout crapped in my pants. i thought the show was awfully stupid, for the most part. the animation was great, though. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:07:50 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: Re: unlurking, Association Football, first love and other Mattacks MC 900 Ft J Branscombe rapped: >Finally, it is very easy to link Dave Mattacks and Robyn. Kimberley Rew is >releasing a solo album later this year on which Mattacks plays drums and Mr >H makes a guest appearance. maybe i've been living under a rock, but this is news to me. the katrina and the waves site appears to have bit the dust, so there is no news about this to be found there. anybody know more details? woj n.p. connecticut rioting ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:16:52 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: lost books And there's also "The Third Policeman", which was rejected by many publishers. Flann O'Brien was so disheartened that he claimed to have lost the manuscript. It turned up when his family was clearing up his papers after he died. Stewart (who for some reason just thought of this: What have you got in the bottle, kid? Thoth! What, you mean the spirit of the Egyptian scribe of the gods? No, thoy thoth. I have a lithp. ) - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:29:42 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: A hilariously futile quest >>>>> "Eb" == Eb writes: Eb> see just how many different people have been credited with Eb> saying "Writing [or talking] about music is like dancing about Eb> architecture." I think we credit Elvis Costello in our Concise quotation dictionary; can't check because we don't hold it on this dictionary system. The common Anderson/Zappa references can probably be attributed to the Unix 'fortune' database, which has only had the lightest touch of editorial control. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:43:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Re: A feg-numeration >15. Also, Michael Wolfe. Michael, you know I'm right about the >geneaology of the Bagginses. I'd appreciate it if you backed me >up a little more enthusiastically. Oh good god, no! You do realize that this has to be the most geekly argument since "Picard vs. Kirk", don't you?? I mean, I have enough trouble pulling myself out of that morass of dork trivia without letting myself get sucked by my so-called friends (fiends is more like it! Viv, Jeme, you take the "r" out of friend!) Look, a couple of facts about which I am not proud: 1) I could tell you, from memory, Reliant's prefix code. 2) I could give you a list of the 5 Maia sent across the the sea into the east, as well as each of their Valar patrons. 3) I can tell you the origins and at least four uses (in two different television series, no less) of the utter nonsense phrase "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow." 4) I could completely account for every significant plot element of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by showing how Douglas Adams had ripped off his previous work on Doctor Who as a scriptwriter. 5) I can tell you whatever you need to know about "multi-modal reflection sorting." Well, okay -- maybe I am a little bit proud of number 5. But the point is, I don't need to get sucked into researching Bilbo's family tree on top of that! I'm in too deep as it is! I have enough trouble getting dates already! I...I... Oh fuck it. If anyone needs me, I'll be down at the central branch of the Multnomah county library poring through Christopher Tolkien's Book of Lost Tales, volumes 1 through whatever, in search of the definitive answer to this. *sigh* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:41:46 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: CDDB alternative [no RH] Seems that Escient have gone and claimed collection copyright on the CDDB online CD track finder. This is a bit rich, considering that the original CDDB-aware programs were free, and most of the data was given freely. Anyway, there's now a completely free database started up at: http://freecddb.freecddb.org/ It may not be flash, but the database works. It needs you CD details. This has been a public service announcement. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:52:48 -0500 From: J Branscombe Subject: teddington and twickenham, kimberley new woj, good guess with East Grinstead but I'm more appropriately located via Trams Of Old London. RE:REW NEW. Kimberley has guested over the past few years with a Cambridge band called The Lonely. They have a couple of CDs out on their own Great Eastern record label. For Soft Boys completists and Rew admirers Kim plays on most tracks, though not particularly prominently. I'll try and find out distribution details.Through this connection I got hold of a copy of a CD that Kim has had cut as a demo. It is called Alice Klaar, and as far as I can make out, features Robyn on one track. He has had no luck placing it with any bigger labels so Great Eastern are going to put it out, but in an expanded, augmented form. I haven't talked to my contact recently, but will do so soon to get an update. Loki, god of mischief is at work again. One of the studios The Lonely use is called Qualisound. You'll Have To Go Sideways and... jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:51:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: !eeeehw Listened to the new Ben Folds Five album again tonight, more intensely this time. It sounded WORSE, not better. This disc seems like a solid candidate for the year's most disappointing album, and I say that even after I've already heard major disappointments from Jason Falkner, Sebadoh and Blur. I could be wrong, but this disc strikes me like one of those "I can't deal with my commercial breakthrough, so I'm going to purposely weird out all my new fans"-type releases. Like Green Day's "Insomniac" or the Clash's "Sandinista," for instance. Hell, I even liked the Fear of Pop record better than this one. What's worse, my favorite song on the BFF disc ("Magic") is the one track that Folds didn't write. Yeeikes. I'm calling BF for a short interview in the morning, and I've having trouble thinking of anything to ask him beyond "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?" :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:05:19 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: The future of walkmans On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > Mike> Dickie Davies Eyes > > Unless I missed an earlier life (possible, 'cos cricket doesn't happen > here) wasn't he a TV sports presenter? Yes, you're right. This is a public grovel following the mass of private e-mails I have received on this issue. And yes, it is a parody of Bette Davis Eyes, not Gary Gilmore's. Mea maxima culpa - - Mike Godwin PS What happened in the Grimleys this week? I was out celebrating my birthday and missed it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:59:27 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Robyn/Feg/OTC dream There's nothing more boring than hearing about other people's dreams. Last night I dreamed I was at a party. Everyone was dancing to "A New Day" by OTC (off the new album) and agreeing that it would be a big hit for them. One girl was sorting through her singles and I caught sight of one with the title "ELIZABETH JADE" in huge block letters. I got really excited and asked to look at it. On one side it had a bunch of people's signatures, including Vivien's. "I know her!" I said, pointing to it. On the other side, it had Robyn's autograph in gold pen. The girl and I admired his baroque handwriting. The picture on the sleeve was an arty, filtered shot (kind of like Anton Corbijn) of Robyn washing the dishes. He wore a large gold ring on the middle finger of his right hand. If anyone actually locates this single, please let me know. It will mean that my subconscious is leaking again, and that can get messy. n., and no, I don't know what the B-side was ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:53:56 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: A feg-numeration Michael Wolfe: >Oh good god, no! You do realize that this has to be the most >geekly argument since "Picard vs. Kirk", don't you?? What argument? Kirk wouldn't last 10 seconds. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:12:34 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Sailing the seas of Feg: a nautical tale Day 12 Still adrift on the Mare Ad Nauseum. Food and water supplies running low, and my boat has begun to spring leaks. Last night I found myself positively soaked in old Grateful Dead flame-war posts - they burned like acid. I had to use some of my precious fresh water to take away the sting. The silence here is deafening. Only the shouts and faint cannon fire of distant battles come dimly over the choppy waves. I stand in the bows, shading my eyes against the bright sun, to determine their origin - could they be from the Brian Wilson list, or perhaps another volley from COSTELLO-L? - but my eyes are too weak. My faithful quail, Allen, however, chuckles at each puff of smoke and muffled curse, but he is not revealing his secrets. He sits in the stern and puffs his speckled feathers, and keeps his counsel. Day 14 A boat! At last! I shout and jump about as best I can, as my own craft tips dangerously, but there is no response from the miserable figures huddled in their little skiff. They are all discussing something amongst themselves in somber, deathly serious tones, and only when I catch the words "tortured genius" and hear a snatch of finger-picked guitar do I realize that these travellers, so wan and solemn, are the damned souls of the Mare Ad Nauseum, doomed to drift forever discussing the same four albums over and over again. They are Nick Drake fans. I bow my head in horror as they pass by. Day 17 Food is running perilously low, so I try some fishing. My first attempt dredges up some posts about English football - a little starchy, but I munch on them anyway. Then, to my delight, I catch that well-known delicacy, a Victorian squid. It's greasy and hot and I bolt it down immediately. It makes me nostalgic for those happy days on board the good ship Feg, when Eddie would encourage mutiny on a daily basis and Eb would rant from the crow's nest, when woj would rule over us benignly and Dolph would dolph sweetly to the accompaniment of his guitar. Oh, if it were not for that fateful night, after drinking chocolate liqueur with Vivien and LJ - - that terrible fight we got into over who would bear Jeff Mangum's love child - and the black-out, the dreadful void which followed. . . I woke in the life-boat, with no ship in sight, and only Allen, the secretive fowl, to keep me company. When will I ever find them again? Day 18 As I work at shelling a Dlang tortoise (a small, fantastically-colored creature, rare outside of Australian waters), I hum to myself absent-mindedly, inspired perhaps by the sea air and the incessant rocking of the boat. "Do something for me, boys. . . if I should die at sea, boys. . ." Immediately my song is drowned out by a clamor of voices: a large ship has materialized out of nowhere, as if conjured by my words. They all seem to be discussing. . . "Easter Theater"?? I've called up a boatload of Chalkhillians! First one, then a dozen of them lean over the side of their ship, begging me for demo tapes. They are all lean and starved from seven years of deprivation - a horrible sight. I throw tortoise entrails at them and then in desperation I launch into my Dagmar Krause imitation. That frightens them off. My god, the Mare Ad Nauseum is even more dangerous than I ever guessed! To be continued... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:24:31 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: The Apples in Stereo So how come no one ever told me that The Apples in Stereo sounded so good? I got FreeAmp recently and can now listen to MPEG clips instead of that RealAudio crap that sounds like comlete shit. So, I listened to some clips and was amazed! And I usually am not very amazed from 30 second clips. goodnoise.com has some entire songs from their first two albums but I'm not gonna pay a dollar to download them. So, what's wrong with the Apples' most recent album? I don't remember it being on very many Top 10 lists, whereas everyone seemed to love the NMH album. I, too, really like the NMH album (it keeps growing on me). But the little bit I heard of The Apples in Stereo sounded s shitload better. Does the album go horribly wrong at some point? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:22:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Apples in Stereo Joel: >So how come no one ever told me that The Apples in Stereo sounded so >good? So, what's >wrong with the Apples' most recent album? I don't remember it being on >very many Top 10 lists, whereas everyone seemed to love the NMH album. To me, individual Apples songs sound really pleasing and tuneful, but when you put them together into a full album, they all sound exactly alike and bleed into each other. And thus, my attention wanders. However, I said just a couple of weeks ago that the Apples are one of my very favorite bands which I don't actually like (talk about a backhanded compliment). ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:40:19 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: The Apples in Stereo In a message dated 99-03-30 14:25:52 EST, you write: << Joel: >So how come no one ever told me that The Apples in Stereo sounded so >good? So, what's >wrong with the Apples' most recent album? I don't remember it being on >very many Top 10 lists, whereas everyone seemed to love the NMH album. then Eb: To me, individual Apples songs sound really pleasing and tuneful, but when you put them together into a full album, they all sound exactly alike and bleed into each other. And thus, my attention wanders. However, I said just a couple of weeks ago that the Apples are one of my very favorite bands which I don't actually like (talk about a backhanded compliment). ;) >> Well it's better than: "they're one of my least favorite bands which I actually despise"! I agree with Eb's assessment of Apples in Stereo. They're a cute band, but, whereas the NMH album has this incredible momentum and scope that couldn't be appreciated from just hearing snippets of it, AiS are nothing more than "pretty darn good" no matter which song/album and/or how much you listen to (another backhanded compliment :-)). Their music is kind of like a bag of M&Ms, whereas "In the Aeroplane" is more like tiramisu. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:42:21 -0500 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: The Apples in Stereo Joel Mullins wrote: > > So how come no one ever told me that The Apples in Stereo sounded so > good? > Does the album go horribly wrong at some point? No, I don't think so. I haven't heard any of their older stuff, so I can't comment on that. My initial impression of "Tone Soul Evolution" was that it was good and competent, but it didn't really have that spark that I felt OTC's "Dusk" or the NMH albums had. Not a Top 10 album to me. I did pull it out again for a listen a few weeks back, and pretty well thoroughly enjoyed it (yes, I'm a bit noncommital...can't help it...blame my INTP personality type...wait...I'm getting way off track here). I guess I just don't find a lot of variation in the tunes and presentation though. I get about half way through the album and find my mind wandering on to other things. But then again I do that with OTC albums as well. Hell, I don't know what I'm saying. On a more Robyn note: My old roommate pal here in Cocoa Beach finally has found the woman of his dreams. He introduced her to me as someone "who likes Robyn Hitchcock!", so I instantly liked her. She also used to follow Love Tractor around during the late 80's. Yep, she's got my stamp of approval. Beats his last few Mariah Carey and BTO loving girlfriends. On NMH: I've been getting a crapload of requests for my NMH live tapes lately. I think that's a really good sign. I also saw that a 7" of NMH's "Everything Is" recently sold on ebay for upwards of $70. Damn, I guess I'll never get my hands on a copy... Mike Rrrrunion ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:56:13 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Apples in Stereo (!) MR: >I get about half way through the album and find my >mind wandering on to other things. Yes! Exactly! >I also saw that a 7" of NMH's >"Everything Is" recently sold on ebay for upwards of $70. Wow! Eb! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:38:39 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: Apples In Mononucleosis I'm going to refer Joel (and by extension the rest of Fegdom) to my former statement -- my posting titled "nmh" in http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/1998/v07.n295. It was more about NMH vs. OTC, but I mentioned the Apples In Terrio in it as well. Dolph recently bought for $1: The Magick Heads, Woody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:40:09 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: My Turn To Play Reaper Joe Williams dead at age 80. bummed, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Mini Disc Help Fegs, I am considering purchasing a portable MD system that has the ability to record. Since I know that some of the members of this lists are tapers, I'd like their input (offlist) to guide me in my purchase. Thanks! griffith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:28:53 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Mini Disc Help On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Griffith Davies wrote: > > Fegs, > > I am considering purchasing a portable MD system that > has the ability to record. > > Since I know that some of the members of this lists are > tapers, I'd like their input (offlist) to guide me in > my purchase. If y'all wouldn't mind, please include me on anything about this too - - -I've also been considering a minidisc. Thanks! Eric ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #115 *******************************