From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #106 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 21 1999 Volume 08 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Connecticut Storefront ["Russ Reynolds" ] OTC vs. the Lonesome Organist [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] Re: Covers [Aaron Mandel ] Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands [Zloduska ] Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands [Aaron Mandel ] Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands [Eb ] bones for bowser ["Capitalism Blows" ] big favor request (even more off topic than usual) [dmw ] Re: bones for bowser [Danielle ] Re: bones for bowser [Eb ] Re: bones for bowser ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: bones for bowser [Joel Mullins ] [none] [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:10:45 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Connecticut Storefront >Take British cult folk-rocker Robyn Hitchcock and let him sing 15 of his >best songs, accompanied simply by two guitars and a violin. Set the >performance in an East Village storefront that has floor-to-ceiling >windows, letting all of New York City pass by (and look in). You might have >to wait a few thousand light years to find such a brilliant musical concept I guess to your standard dumbass a light year seems like a long time...but how do these dumbasses get jobs in the print media? - -rUss PS: Tom--thanks for lunch. PPS: Carrie...what happened to you? Tom was buying and everything! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: OTC vs. the Lonesome Organist (I tried to post this last night... apologies if it turns up twice.) I bought the new OTC yesterday, a few days ahead of schedule - a local record shop manager has an "arrangement" with Flydaddy. I like it so far, though I can't really compare it with "Dusk at Cubist Castle" because both albums are so huge and sprawling that I can't absorb them in their totality - I can only process them in small chunks. But as far as I can tell, "Black Foliage" is a bit noisier and less shimmery and poppy, which is fine by me, though the instrumental bits aren't as interesting. I like the element of play that pervades both albums: they're having a heck of a lot of fun messing around in the studio, no matter what the results. I think that's cool. I got my ticket to see OTC on March 30 yesterday, too... wheee!! Re. the Lonesome Organist, my friend Kim wrote to me a long time ago telling me to go see him, but I didn't know who he was, so I didn't go. Now it looks like I was missing out. I wish Kim had been more informative. n. np: "Black Foliage" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:14:00 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Covers On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Terrence M Marks wrote: > And, in my experience, bands that use anime art neither have an anime sort > of sound nor are very good. Was I just unlucky in checking out Racecar > and Tulips, or is this a general trend? Bunnygrunt's first album, Transportation Pants, is a lot of fun. who else? Bis and Urusei Yatsura (the latter named after an anime series) both use anime caricatures of themselves, and both were good, at least for a while. i think i lost the data from the paper i did on album cover art, but at the time (in the records i looked at) there was no significant number of bands with non-photographic images of themselves on the cover, outside of New Zealand, where grotesque caricatures were pretty commonplace. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:53:27 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands Eb wrote: >Just discovered a new one...like with the Ladybug Transistor Ladybug Transistor are playing here (my campus) this Spring! Anyway... >I'm a little >late because this is the second album. Anyway, check out The Lonesome >Organist! I *LOVE* The Lonesome Organist. I always thought he sounded like a cross between Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (the singing style and energy) and the Residents (the music experimentation). And a little bit of carnival-music type freakishness on the side. Indeed Eb, Jeremy Jacobsen's one-man-band ROCKS. I heard that his last band, 5ive Style (great name, not) from Milwaukee were not very good. I have Collector of Cactus Echo Bags, however I had absolutely no idea that he recently came out with a new album, that's wonderful. I'll make sure I pick it up a.s.a.p, and then I'll let you know what I think. I would recommend that you get the first album, you can't go wrong. >Two albums, both on Thrill Jockey (but they don't really sound >like anything you would associate with that label). I haven't heard the >first one (obviously), but I just got the second album, Cavalcade. Nothing >spectacular, but a helluva lotta fun. I thought it was spectacularly zany myself. Sure, you can't understand half the words the guy sings, but the song titles themselves are great, and best of all I like The Lonesome Organist Theme Song. It's nice to have an artist with a sense of humor, dammit. Sometimes you have to put down the mopey-rock albums, and crazy with some freaked-out, hyperactive tunes like this. Okay, I am *finally* going to see this live. I've read about it, and I heard it was interesting to say the least. I was very upset before because when I saw the Spinanes play here last fall, The Lonesome Organist was originally supposed to open for them, but then pulled out at the last minute. Then, at the beginning of Oct, I missed seeing TLO open for Man..Or Astro-man? in Milwaukee due to seeing a different show. And THEN I got a second chance to see them together again because we scheduled them to play here on campus- Man/Astroman with TLO- but then that also fell through. However, they are still playing in Madison on April 13, but at a different place I won't be surprised if something goes wrong once again, but for now I plan on seeing them. What a show that will be. >Eb, who really needs to find a copy of the first Organist album now Ditto for Cavalcade. Thanks for the info. I'm so glad we AGREE for once on a band. ;-) But, I also made a discovery of a great album today. Total Wheeeee!(tm) Factor here. I don't know if you would care for them at all, but there is this band is called "Rachel's" and they have a new album out, "The Sea and the Bells". They played here last year, and although I didn't see the show myself, someone else on the music committee said I would like them. Indeed I do; they are an instrumental band that is very violin and piano oriented, along with a whole bunch of other odd intruments, (including the singing saw). They have a pretty orchestrated, almost classical sound, I think. It's the antithesis of guitar-rock, and is very fluid, poetic, and artisitic. Kind of like if half of a real orchestra were dissidents and formed some rebellious, experimental classical group. Basically, "if you like The Dirty Three, you'll *love* Rachel's!" That's why I feel you would frown upon it, but truthfully, their music is gorgeous. Listening to 'The Sea and the Bells' makes my chest heavy with some kind of leaden and bittersweet sadness, but at the same time sedate and mesmerized. Yes, I really endorse this band. ;-p ~kjs np: Rachel's, of 'coz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:23:51 PST From: "D B" Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands you gotta admire eb for his strong curiosity, at least but i'm sitting here listening to lucinda williams' car wheels and it's the BEST fucking album, man... They won’t let me play the cd where I work… So, after all, charleton heston/rod serling was right… it is a city of apes… So where/who are the monkeys/beatles...? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 07:16:37 -0500 From: candl@journey.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #104 >>>there was only one song that got played at >>>EVERY single fucking wedding reception for the whole ten years. EVERY >>>SINGLE FUCKING ONE. any guesses? Is it the "Hokey Pokey", or that annoying "Chicken Dance" song? Chas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:50:11 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: two quick ones from fever lad 1) i recollect a winner was already announced, but i'm still amazed it wasn't "three times a lady" b) the dirty three strike me as more rock-oriented and somehow saltier than rachel's, but i enthusiastically second the endorsement. i saw rachel's opening for pj harvey last time around (harvey, crushingly loud, seemed to be playing all of her material over the synth bassline from "down by the water;" i still liked her best in the punky guttaral raw rock trio mode that i saw first.) but anyway i thought rachel's were wonderful, although their visuals were a tad precious. they're really good at being "pretty" without being sappy, treacly, or cliched -- not something all that easy to pull off in my jaundiced opinion. - -- d. "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:04:55 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > And boy, he must be enormously entertaining in concert...I hope > he makes it out here. when i saw The Lonesome Organist, it was actually too intense to watch for very long. he didn't sing, just grunting and wheezing rhythmically some of the time. he also stared out into the audience with his eyes open as wide as possible, which i realize is not an uncommon drummer quirk, but was particularly disquieting on this guy. he left the stage after about 15 minutes, and though i was very happy we was doing so at the time, i'd show up to see him again if he was opening a show. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:12:52 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands Zloduska wrote: > It's nice to have an > artist with a sense of humor, dammit. I may be going out on a limb here, but I think everyone on this list would agree with this statement. So, what's the deal with this band Of Montreal? I listened to some sound clips, but it's just so hard to tell if I'm gonna like them from just a 30 second sample. Some clips sounded really great, but then others annoyed me. So far, I haven't been too impressed with the Elephant 6 Recording Company. I do like the NMH album, but not near as much as a lot of people on this list. Anyway, how would you guys describe Of Montreal? What does everyone think of them? And one more thing: Does anyone else agree that the best line of 1998 is "London bridge is safe and sound, no matter what you've been repeating"? Of course, it's not that lyrical or culturally significant but everytime I hear it I get the biggest smile on my face. And it probably doesn't hurt that the melody's awesome. Well, I probably shouldn't say "best line," but it's definitely may favorite. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:25:36 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands D B wrote: > but i'm sitting here listening to lucinda williams' car wheels and it's > the BEST fucking album, man... The only song I've heard is the title track. We analyzed the lyrics in this poetry class I'm taking. I really liked the song. So is the rest of the album pretty much along the same lines? Other cool things we've done this semester: 1) We analyzed Blondie's Dreaming. 2) We watched a clip from the Empire Strikes Back and then did a Freudian analysis of it. We figured out that George Lucas wants to kill his father and have sex with his sister. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:22:16 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > So, what's the deal with this band Of Montreal? I listened to some > sound clips, but it's just so hard to tell if I'm gonna like them from > just a 30 second sample. Some clips sounded really great, but then > others annoyed me. Of Montreal certainly have a massive potential for annoyance. i personally find that this potential is fully realized everywhere but in one song, from the first album ("Everything Disappears When You Come Around"). that same album also contains a hideous song about how he wishes his friend was a girl so the two of them could date, a conceit that i can't imagine anyone making worthwhile; he doesn't even come close. the new album seems less annoying in that vein, but i am not too fond of the Elephant 60-Member Travelling Oom-Pah Band sound showcased thereon. on a related note, Black Foliage is REALLY pretentious... haven't gotten past that yet, but some of the non-"song" parts are interesting. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:11:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands Kristy: >I heard that his last band, 5ive Style (great name, not) from >Milwaukee were not very good. I have Collector of Cactus Echo Bags, >however I had absolutely no idea that he recently came out with a new >album, that's wonderful. It's not in stores yet. I'm not sure of the exact date, but I don't think it's until April. And yes, 5ive Style wasn't much good. The Sub Pop album which I heard was just sorta boogeying guitar-dude instrumentals. Ditto for the descendent band, Heroic Doses. >But, I also made a discovery of a great album today. Total Wheeeee!(tm) >Factor here. I don't know if you would care for them at all, but there is >this band is called "Rachel's" and they have a new album out, "The Sea and >the Bells". > >Basically, "if you like The Dirty Three, you'll *love* Rachel's!" I heard one Rachel's album...just seemed like like lukewarm faux-classical music to me. No real expertise at work -- just coasting on its sophisticated instrumentation and superficial "prettiness," without writing any compositions of legitimate interest. (See? There IS music with frilly instrumentation which I don't like. ;)) And I have YET to understand why anyone should listen to the Dirty Three. The process seems to be quite simple: Scribble three or four chords down on a slip of paper. Lugubriously jam on that progression for five minutes. Repeat 10 times. Bingo, new album. Wake me when it's over. And it's not like the group's musical chops are all that impressive, anyway. Aaron: >there was no significant number of >bands with non-photographic images of themselves on the cover, outside of >New Zealand, where grotesque caricatures were pretty commonplace. Maybe the Who's nifty "Face Dances" cover is the ultimate example of this category? Eb now not playing: Bob Dylan's "Self Portrait" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:15:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: another one of those wacky Eb-type bands Even Fooking wrote: >It's not in stores yet. I'm not sure of the exact date, but I don't think >it's until April. April 20th, dude. Get your facts straight. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:34:54 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: bones for bowser that's the sequel sampler you're talking about, which was my initial guess as well. but woj demonstrated that this could not be the one. Statue With A Walkman has since been released, of course, although Surfer Ghost has not. (say, this gives me an idea. how if the various compilations could be included in robynbase disco.? NETSURFER GHOST, UNCARVED PUMKINS, UNHATCHED CRABLINGS, ROBYN SPRINGS FORTH, etc. i think they deserve to be in there.) anyway, now that we've got your attention aidan, when's the next Positive Vibrations coming out? oh, by the way, they actually *did* play White Wedding from time to time, believe it or not. on the other hand, i requested Hair Of The Dog pretty much every night, and a good 80% --probably more-- of the dj's had never even *heard* of it. talk about depressing! and in all the ten years, i only ran across *one* who had it in his collection. e "quoter of dan bern lyrics" b wrote: shouldn't that have read: "what i *had* heard previously"? i only mention it because it's eb, and eb has the most impeccable grammar and spelling skillz on the list. that's one of my fave elements of the Eb Experience. <>there was no significant number of >bands with non-photographic images of themselves on the cover, outside of >New Zealand, where grotesque caricatures were pretty commonplace. Maybe the Who's nifty "Face Dances" cover is the ultimate example of this category?> , , are two fine, recent examples. http://leb.net/iac/ "As we often see in US foreign policy, other nations' attempts to defend themselves from US attacks are defined as aggression." --Jake Sexton Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:44:35 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: big favor request (even more off topic than usual) hey all -- i'm feverish and hacking and icky and it's cold and rainy and i think i dasn't venture out... ...but today is the day that one of my websites may be featured in the arts & entertainment section of the new york times (in a feature article on "hidden tracks") and i'd dearly love a copy or three, if so. could some kind soul snag me one? i'll reimburse cost, postage, mileage, etc. or drop me a note to confirm whether it is or isn't there? please e-mail me to confirm so that i don't wind up with dozens, off-list, s'il vous plait. - -- d. "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:46:25 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: bones for bowser Eddie: > shouldn't that have read: "what i *had* heard previously"? i only > mention it because it's eb, and eb has the most impeccable grammar and > spelling skillz on the list. that's one of my fave elements of the Eb > Experience. And who finds his incredibly rare mistakes and remarks upon them privately? Hrmmm? Danielle, who was once told 'OK, you win' by Eb after a punctuation argument, and cherishes the memory dearly ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:57:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: bones for bowser Eddie: >more, once I heard it polished up on disc, rather than on a crummy, >label-dubbed, generic cassette (what I heard previously).> > >shouldn't that have read: "what i *had* heard previously"? i only >mention it because it's eb, and eb has the most impeccable grammar and >spelling skillz on the list. that's one of my fave elements of the Eb >Experience. Then how come when I boast about my spelling/grammar skills to hot babes in bars, they just look at me in bewilderment? Don't they realize what an attractive part of the Eb Experience that is? Eb PS A bonus bit of grammatical wizardry for you: Thrill Jockey's website sucks big fucking elephant dicks. PPS I'm interviewing OTC's Bill Doss tomorrow...anyone have any burning questions? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:16:05 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: bones for bowser you dipshit! you forgot to take the...oh, darn, i can't remember the name of the product. but i was listening to the sports talk station last night (as i do most saturday nights. the late night weekend guy cracks me up something fierce.) and i musta heard this commercial five times, at the least. it was about, you need to buy their product, some pill or whatever, and then you'll be sending out "invisible sexual signals" that will have women fighting over you. it specifically mentioned women in bars, too. so there you have it. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:42:16 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: bones for bowser Capitalism Blows wrote: > say, this gives me an idea. how if the various > compilations could be included in robynbase disco.? NETSURFER GHOST, > UNCARVED PUMKINS, UNHATCHED CRABLINGS, ROBYN SPRINGS FORTH, etc. i > think they deserve to be in there. Yeah, I agree. I think the discography should cover everything, not just legitimate releases. Bootlegs, compilations, singles, promos, everything. That way when someone finds a chance to pick up something like that, they can check RobynBase and get the tracklisting, etc. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:25:33 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: [none] >>there was only one song that got played at EVERY single fucking wedding >>reception for the whole ten years. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE. any guesses? >white wedding by billy idol ...or as I used to sing: "It's a nice day for a rice pudding..." Personally, I'd guess "I got you babe" would be as likely, although all the weddings I've been to in the last few years have played "Uptown girl" by Billy f#$%^&g Jowell. Perhaps it's "Rid of Me" by PJ Harvey :) I wonder how the parents of the couple would react if they'd played NIN's "Closer"... James (of course, "I used to say I love you" would be THE perfect wedding song!) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #106 *******************************