From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #98 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 08 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- typical feg? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] had to say [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] proto-feg ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: proto-feg [Ben ] Re: had to say [Eric Loehr ] Hah! Thought you'd got away with it, didn't you! [digja611@student.otago.] Camus & Elvis [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] great myths of our time no. 237 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dign] Re: Phrogck [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #93 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #94 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] another week in feg [cinders blue ] Re: Chuck vs. Joe [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #93 [Ben ] Re: great myths of our time no. 237 [amadain ] Re: Phrogck [normal@grove.ufl.edu] Coconuts [Gary Sedgwick ] Re: another week in feg [Michael R Godwin ] Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Robyn [Gary Sedgwick ] the evil empire [amadain ] Muppets, Klaatu, Dreams, la la la [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:50:41 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: typical feg? Even if some of us would NEVER admit to ever watching that show ay any time...."Saltshakers from outer space! run for your lives!" anyway, is there any word on which of the tunes of "Robyn Hitchcock's Xmas Party" are officially gonna be on "jewels for sophia"? -luther, who will admit to owning "doctorin the tardis" in more than one format (put that's cuz i'm a KLF fan...yeah, that's it! :)) On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:38:19 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >> >As for painting a picture of the stereotypical Feg? I'll leave that to Eb, >> he can >> >withstand the flames. ;) >> >> I'd think a painting of the proto-Feg would be a very colorful and surreal >> one. > >I don't know, but I bet 90% of true Fegs know what a "Tardis" is. ;) > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:56:12 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: had to say On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:38:19 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Except for me. Bah. > >~kjs > >psst..And oh, speaking of putting up with retarded fans of lame bands, >guess who is playing here in May, RIGHT NEXT DOOR? N' Sync! I shall go >hide in the cellar for a night. well, if it's right next door, it might be 'just' within sniper range, if you wanna do the world a favor...:-) Is that John Lennon set that came out recently worth buying? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:09:57 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: proto-feg >I'd think a painting of the proto-Feg would be a very colorful and surreal >one. Anyone here remember Arnie Barnes? Years ago when Letterman was still on NBC he made a random call to a number he pulled from an Omaha, Nebraska phone book. Arnie Barnes became a Late Night corespondent...they'd check in on him every now and then to see how things were going and to get his views on current affairs. One night they brought in a police sketch artist and asked Arnie to describe himself. From that point on whenever they hooked up with Arnie they showed the sketch in the corner of the screen. What WE need is to have one of the more artistically inclined among us create a composite sketch of the typical feg for the Web site based on input from each of us. If we can't get sombedy to draw it I'm sure we could coerce someone into doing a tinfoil interpretation. - -rUss PS: just read the latest Mojo--great piece on XTC, along with an interesting story on the actual guy who shouted "Judas" at Bob Dylan, AND...on page 19 a "lofty but true" tale involving Chuck Berry and KFOX morning guy Greg Kihn...he's mentioned this hilarious encounter to me before but has always steadfastly refused to tell the story on the air for some reason. Now I'm gonna have to find out how it ended up in Mojo. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:17:38 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: proto-feg Ironically, the proto-feg probably looks a lot like Larry "Bud" Melman. Russ Reynolds wrote: > >I'd think a painting of the proto-Feg would be a very colorful and surreal > >one. > > Anyone here remember Arnie Barnes? Years ago when Letterman was still on > NBC he made a random call to a number he pulled from an Omaha, Nebraska > phone book. Arnie Barnes became a Late Night corespondent...they'd check in > on him every now and then to see how things were going and to get his views > on current affairs. > > One night they brought in a police sketch artist and asked Arnie to describe > himself. From that point on whenever they hooked up with Arnie they showed > the sketch in the corner of the screen. > > What WE need is to have one of the more artistically inclined among us > create a composite sketch of the typical feg for the Web site based on input > from each of us. If we can't get sombedy to draw it I'm sure we could > coerce someone into doing a tinfoil interpretation. > > -rUss > > PS: just read the latest Mojo--great piece on XTC, along with an interesting > story on the actual guy who shouted "Judas" at Bob Dylan, AND...on page 19 a > "lofty but true" tale involving Chuck Berry and KFOX morning guy Greg > Kihn...he's mentioned this hilarious encounter to me before but has always > steadfastly refused to tell the story on the air for some reason. Now I'm > gonna have to find out how it ended up in Mojo. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:42:30 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: had to say On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, David W. Dudich wrote: > well, if it's right next door, it might be 'just' within > sniper range, if you wanna do the world a favor...:-) > > Is that John Lennon set that came out recently worth buying? > > -luther Sorry, Luther, I know you probably didn't mean it that way, but did anybody else get really spooked by the juxtaposition of those two comments? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:11:10 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Hah! Thought you'd got away with it, didn't you! I've just been leafing through recent digests and... Hey folks - we almost let one sneak in without a word!!! In all the fuss about Paul and Chad et al joining, I don't think anyone extended a big warm hand of fegness to Angel! She had the misfortune to arrive just as the Kubrick news was breaking, and well, we were all too stunned (or maybe stoned) to say hi, then forgot in the latest round of weirdness. So "Hi Angel, welcome to the good ship Fegmaniax - have some toast!" James (many of us may be Chads, but very few of us are Angels) James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:11:09 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Camus & Elvis Fegland's favourite organic chemical (Ethyl Ketone) a dit: >No One has mentioned the existentialists: H. Hesse and A.Camus I mentioned Camus about a year back - not to do with Fegbooks, but with a query... Some of Robyn's ideas around the time of the UM album sound quite a bit like some of the thoughts expressed by Camus in his essays on a return visit to Algeria - the story in the song Underwater Moonlight in particular is very like one Camus tells about a statue in the town square in (IIRC) Oran. In that singers mentioning singers thread, I don't think anyone mentioned Billy Bragg's "I dreamed I saw Phil Ochs". And, a chance to nention another Dunedin band - The DoubleHappys' song "Big Fat Elvis". James James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:11:07 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: great myths of our time no. 237 >>A minor quibble, and you may not have even meant it this way, so sorry if >>I'm putting words into your mouth, but John definitely didn't write Glass >>Onion with the "Paul is Dead" thingy in mind, because the hoax didn't get >>started until 1969, after Abbey Road came out (one of the major clues >>supposedly being Paul being the only one of the Beatles walking barefoot >>across Abbey Road), well after the white album came out (and the songs on >>it presumably written.) Phew -- that was a long sentence. >i must admit that i'm sure exactly when the 'paul is dead' craze really >got going; but i thought that he was supposed to have disappeared during >the recording of SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND. he did actually >leave for an extended vacation before the album was finished. anyway, the >clues start appearing with SGT. PEPPER. the cover art had a flower bouquet >of a left handed guitar. as the title track segues into 'with a little >help from my friends' paul introduces (his replacement?) "the one and only >billy shears" who sounds a lot like ringo (not peter frampton!). in 'a day >in the life' the "lucky man who'd made the grade" was also taken to be the >macca. then there's the "i buried paul" mumble at the end of 'strawberry >fields'. there are other references, besides the one in 'glass onion', on >the WHITE ALBUM with backward masking tracks on 'revolution 9' ("turn me >on dead man") & 'blackbirds' ("paul is dead man, miss him"). on the ABBEY >ROAD front cover paul's got! barefeet and is out of step with the others while there's a car with the license plate 28IF referring to the fact that paul would have been 28 if he hadn't died. on the back cover there's a crack in the wall through the word beatles and there are holes in the wall in front of the word beatles that form a number 3. and don't forget the "you were in a car crash and you loost your hair" line in "Don't pass me by". Myth had it that it was Paul who never showed up to meet George while he was staying at Blue Jay Way (as reported in the song of the same name, recorded in 1967). The Beatles gained Billy Shears as a replacement, and left clues for all to see if they knew where to look. Others included the flowers in the shape of Paul's bass on the cover of Sgt Pepper's, and the fact that he was facing away from the camera on the back cover of that album. Not only is he out of step on the cover of Abbey Road, but 'his replacement' is holding a cigarette in his right hand (Paul is/was left-handed). The other three are apparently dressed (from front to back) as the preacher, undertaker and gravedigger. BTW - the "misshim misshim" bit is in "I'm so tired", not Blackbird (although IIRC it is immediately before that track) and the "I buried Paul" line is, of course, bad Spanish for "Have you a water buffalo?". In one of his rare moments of compassion for his co-writer, John decided to make a snide comment about the rumours by providing a wittily spurious 'clue' - "here's another clue for you all - the Walrus was Paul", although it was clearly John who was the Walrus in Magical Mystery Tour and he referred to himself as the walrus on a couple of occasions. Of course the rumours were just that. If Paul had died, surely there would have been some decline in the songwriting abilities. Yet the writer of such classics as "Yesterday" and "And I love her" has shown time and again that he has been able to pen such gems as, erm, Wild Honey Pie, Temporary Secretary, and the whole "Broad Street" album. James (Meanwhile, Billy Shears went on to become the lead singer in Klaatu) PS - the secret must be revealed... one of the best known of fegs uses only a mysterious moniker to disguise his true Identity. His work is of a delicate nature, and he must not be seen to deal too strongly in such, erm, secular matters as running a list for the music of a psychofolk troubadour such as Robyn. However, I have it on good authority that the letters this Feg uses actually form part of the surname he had before he took up his current status. Yes, our listmeister, woj, is in fact Pope John Paul II! James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:11:22 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Phrogck >1: Yes. That will be the entire text of the post. And yes, I'm just >mentioning those two listmembers because the rest of you are too nice or >too disinterested to argue with me about Klaatu. Right? FWIW, I own Klaatu'sself-titled debut, and quite enjoy it, even though I think that Rugglesby is Rowlf from the Muppets. As for it being proggish, Little Neutrino just about HAS to be prog - vocoders and all (and it'sa good track!) James James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:48:45 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #93 >PS Somewhat unconfirmed celebrity death...I hear that the mob finally >caught up with Henry Hill (the witness-protected inspiration for >GoodFellas)? Oh, and Peggy Cass, but I don't even know what she DID beyond >appear on gameshows. I don't think any of you mentioned diMaggio! James PS in reading the posts that have arrived over the weekend, I realise that she.rex did welcome Angel. She.rex, I don't know whether anyone's mentioned this, but although you ain't no witch, we all the way you twitch. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:16:20 +1300 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #94 >I'm trying to find some way of edging 'New Age' in, but it keeps getting >disqualified as a group performance. Help! Gary Numan? :) Interesting also to see you didn't have anything off Eye on that list... welcome to Sarah! But you must lear the list etiquette! >Can I say hello to everyone especially EB (who incidentally has been to [...] it's "even Eb", not "especially Eb" :) James np - Crisis? What Crisis? (Supertramp, as if you needed to ask) PS - to the 60s list, add Cream's Disraeli Gears, and best of collections of the Monkees and Spencer Davis Group, and Donovan's... hmmm... Barabajagal would probably be a good place to start. Akllso add Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. Get a 'Best of the Motown Girl Groups" compilation, too. James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:32:43 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: another week in feg fegs, now playing _the hot rock_ for the first time. finally had enough free hours to get to the store this afternoon to pick it up. also picked up beth orton's _central reservation_. i see that Eb beat me to the punch on this one. i heard all of it on the radio on wednesday night (on wpkn, for those keeping score at home) and it sounds even better on the stereo. _trailer park_ never really sunk in, so i'm a bit surprised that this one has settled in so comfortably, so quickly. the combination of her voice and music has a surprising pastoral quality to it. reminds me of heidi berry (who, alas, will never be as well known as beth orton). this week's noo yawk shows for the curious: 17 march -- chris rael (of church of betty) at the living room 19 march -- jill sobule at the knitting factory (w/o black bart! the horror!) 20 march -- sleater-kinney at irving plaza (sold out!) 21 march -- sleater-kinney at irving plaza (an afternoon performance) i'll probably be at chris rael, might be at jill sobule and definitely will be at the sleater-kinney matinee. will any nyfegs be likewise? also sprach mike godwin: >Nice to see mentions of Prince Buster and Christine Collister in this >week's posts. I used to go and see Clive Gregson and Christine Collister >quite frequently, but I don't know what she's been doing since they split. dunno either, but clive gregson is apparently going to be touring the states with boo hewerdine and eddi reader towards the end of april. some sort of compass records showcase, i hear. they're at the mercury lounge in nyc on april 30th. also sprach gnatalie: >np in my head: Peter Blegvad, "Northern Lights" oops -- forgot to mention last week that syd straw informed us all that blegvad is danish for "stream of bleach". whodda thunk? also sprach quail: >Why, you may ask, have I been playing lots of Jethro Tull lately? Because >I played the new XTC album at work a few times -- I LOVE it!!!!! -- and >my Japanese intern Choko, a noted jazz enthusiast, remarked that "they >sounded like Jethro Tull." and all along i thought it was because you loved the glazed look on lj's face when you play tull... also sprach james: >Yes, our listmeister, woj, is in fact Pope John Paul II! was it the mitre that tipped you off? woj, mystified by joe henry s.p. the hot rock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:44:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Chuck vs. Joe Woj: >reminds me of heidi berry (who, alas, will never be as well known as beth >orton). Ehhh...I think Berry has a stuffy, straightlaced traditionalism about her that Orton thankfully lacks. Eb, who still has two Berry discs among his "discard" boxes ;) np: http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/np.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:46:38 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #93 James Dignan wrote: > >PS Somewhat unconfirmed celebrity death...I hear that the mob finally > >caught up with Henry Hill (the witness-protected inspiration for > >GoodFellas)? Oh, and Peggy Cass, but I don't even know what she DID beyond > >appear on gameshows. > > I don't think any of you mentioned diMaggio! > BTW Henry Hill is still alive. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:52:21 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: great myths of our time no. 237 >of the same name, recorded in 1967). The Beatles gained Billy Shears as a >replacement, and left clues for all to see if they knew where to look. Ah no, it wasn't Billy Shears! It was some guy.....I can't remember his name (how's that for a classic line?). But the story supposedly goes that there was a radio station that had a McCartney lookalike contest, and the winner was never announced! OOH! Supposedly this winner was then taken to a hospital where surgery was done so that he would resemble McCartney even more, and HE was the replacement. Incidentally, I was listening to the first disk of my brand new and already much-loved Nat King Cole box set today. There's a song called "Save The Bones for Henry Jones" which contains the line: "Save the bones for Henry Jones/Cause Henry don't eat no meat (He's an eggman!)". Obviously this ties into the conspiracy. Love on ya, chad plaster-caster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 02:56:58 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Phrogck On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, James Dignan wrote: > FWIW, I own Klaatu'sself-titled debut, and quite enjoy it, even though I > think that Rugglesby is Rowlf from the Muppets. As for it being proggish, > Little Neutrino just about HAS to be prog - vocoders and all (and it'sa > good track!) Yep. If there were any justice in this world, "Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III" would have been included in "Muppet Treasure Island". Now that I'm home and have access to my record collection: Britpop: If you want psychedelic pop, check out the compilations (Great British Psychedelic Trip, Rubble, others). They tend to contain 20 or so songs by bands that never made it, and there's usually a few really good ones. Not recommended for a first purchase of that style, though. San Francisco: Lothar & the Hand People: "Presenting...", Spirit: "Spirit", "The Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus". I'd suggest checking out Moby Grape and the Electric Prunes (technically from Washington, but West Coast is West Coast), but I don't have their albums myself and can't get specifics. Upon further observation, it seems that there's more 60's-influenced material fro the 70s and 80s in the collection than therei sactual 60s material. Observations of the day: The intros of the Del Vikings' "Whispering bells" and Stevie Wonder's "Sir Duke" are remarkably similar. The song that I'd most like to hear Neutral Milk Hotel cover is Buddy Holly's "Everyday". Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:41:28 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Coconuts Emshoff, Eve" wrote: > And you sure do get your fill of sea life in this Pratchett book. Being > killed by prawns, indeed. And all sorts of other lovely creatures - > including coconuts. :) I once wrote a story at primary school (age 8 or so I think) which my mum recently found and gave to me. It's really surreal - it's called "The Magic Coconut", and it's all about a boy who wins a coconut at a fairground - the coconut, being magic, can talk and change size, and is carried around by an army of ants. It nearly gets eaten in a restaurant, but the boy saves it, and they all live "magically ever after"! Just though of sharing that while coconuts in books are being discussed. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:16:04 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: another week in feg [moi:] > >I used to go and see Clive Gregson and Christine Collister > >quite frequently, but I don't know what she's been doing since they split. On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, cinders blue wrote: > dunno either, but clive gregson is apparently going to be touring the > states with boo hewerdine and eddi reader towards the end of april. some > sort of compass records showcase, i hear. they're at the mercury lounge in > nyc on april 30th. Clive is well worth catching, especially if you like depressing songs. At one gig he said that while he was in the Richard Thompson band, he and Richard used to compete to write the most depressing song (I reckon 'Drowned dog dark night'[?] wins). Talking of RT, the last time I saw him he was supported by Boo Hewerdine, who was termianlly boring. Richard T was excellent, though - he sang that one about the Vincent. The only time I saw Eddi Reader she was still with quirky-but-talented Fairground Attraction - no idea what her solo performances are like. "I got your number - written on the back of my hand" - - Mike Godwin 60s PS: The key Small Faces songs are 'Tin Soldier', 'Afterglow' and 'The Universal' - I don't think that Ogden's works as a whole. I like the early funny ones too! 70s PS: Isn't it 'Germ-free adolesceNCE'? I could be wrong... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:10:56 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Robyn Re laser songs: Element of Light? Gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:57:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Does Terry Pratchett know Robyn Hitchcock? >>>>> "Eve" == Emshoff, Eve writes: Eve> I really recommend this book to any Hitchcock fan (if not his Eve> whole series - I can't speak for the rest, but anyone is free Eve> to back me on this one if they wish). I'd say they get a bit lame after the first five or so you read; the formulaic style got to me. 'Good Omens' is the best I've read, probably because the co-author, Neil Gaiman, managed to keep it different. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: another week in feg On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Michael R Godwin wrote: > 70s PS: Isn't it 'Germ-free adolesceNCE'? I could be wrong... Well, the album and song are both Germ-free Adolescents. "He's a germ-free adolescent Cleanliness is his obsession Cleans his teeth ten times a day Run away, run away, run away the SR way" What the hell does that last line mean? I was three or five or somethingwhen it was released. At least it makes me feel young for once. J. n.p. X-Ray Spex again. "So early in the morning?" you ask. "Well, I don't drink coffee." I reply. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:09:18 -0600 From: amadain Subject: the evil empire >i know you mean it in a different sense, susan. but it must be noted >that the fcc *is* in the business of restricting speech --to those that >can purchase it. and its goons are in the business of (often quite >violently) shutting down those that cannot purchase it, yet attempt to >aexercise it all the same. Again, I see them as being in a bit of a bind here. Sure, big outfits can more easily afford fines than small ones. But I'm not sure what else they could do. Jail time is too extreme to be an option, really. Taking the station off the air for a proscribed amount of time? THAT would have everyone hollering, and rightly so! I believe more stations probably incur fines from things like people not signing operating logs (a useful thing IMO) or not consigning enough time to public service programming (a bit of a silly thing, IMO, especially since commercial stations usually cram it all into one program that's on on Sunday morning from 4-7 am), a few highly publicized obscenity cases notwithstanding. And in any event, practically speaking, the system does actually often work in favor of smaller outlets in one respect- they don't get nearly the attention that outlets that carry Howard Stern do, the thinking being I guess that it's damn hard to get blood from a stone. I guess where I'm differing with people is that I don't view the FCC as being on a crusade to stamp out speech. Especially since they could fuck with most college stations bigtime if they so desired, but I haven't heard of it happening. Now if you're talking about pirate stations, that's a whole nother kettle of bananas. Personally, while I'm sympathetic to the cause itself, and many people who set them up are Good People (tm), I'm not real hep on the idea of any goof who wants to setting up their own broadcasting facility. Can you imagine the mess that would be? The airwaves are -limited-, so you'd still have to determine who got to use them by -some- means, otherwise everyone would be trampling over each other and no one would get heard beyond a few blocks from their house. Right now, if you can afford to get the proper equipment and licensing, you can make a go of it. And sure, that does leave out people who can't afford it, it's difficult to purchase a frequency as well, especially in markets like Chicago, where there aren't exactly a shitload of vacancies. Money and politics do play a part in that. But I still think that we'd end up with a much worse system than we have now, whatever problems I may have with the current incarnation of the FCC (and I DO, despite the devils' advocating here :)). And I think money and politics would still play a huge part in who got to be on the air, only in a less regulated system it would be about 50,000 watts of trampling over smaller stations trying to use the same frequency you are. >when-the-government-regulates-public-affairs-it's-generally-if-not-always-in-th >e-in>terests-of-big-business tirade, except to say that it's possibly >nowhere more true >than in radio and teevee broadcasting. The V-chip was in the interests of big-business? Hoowwweeee! 'Splain that one to me, will ya? ;) Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 99 15:01:12 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Muppets, Klaatu, Dreams, la la la Agent Terry writes, >Yep. If there were any justice in this world, "Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby >III" would have been included in "Muppet Treasure Island". That would have been something! I would also like to see "Pigs in Space" do a performance of "Little Neutrino," or possibly the whole Politzania epic-thingie from their second album, the masterpiece that is . . . er, whatever it is called. "Hope?" "Billy Shears in Space?" God, I *love* that album, though. . . . ah, Klaatu and the muppets . . . I can see all the little neutrino muppets, bopping around . . . and the lonely lighthouse keeper. . . . sigh. Missed opportunities. I would also love to see what Bjork would do on the Muppet show. Or Umberto Eco. Which brings to mind a dream I had long ago, a dream where Robyn was on the Muppet show. But the catch was that he was the muppet, and all the other muppets were, well, real. But the *real* catch was that it was *still* the Muppet show, so it was really just Robyn pretending to be a muppet and the muppets pretending to be real, all for effect. But of course, on a deeper level, in order for the muppets to pretnd they are real they have to "know" they are actually muppets, so the muppets had to be muppets pretending to be real in order to actually *portray* muppets pretending to be real. In the dream, however, Robyn was unaware the muppets were not real, and interacted with them on a completely normal basis, before, during, and after the show. I am not sure what role I had in the dream, but I am pretty sure I was not a muppet, which is more than I can say now. - --The Chad Quail, climbing into his "Time And Relative Dimensions In Space" machine, zooming off for another fun round of stone bonking with my muppet buddies. PS: Muppets is an odd word to type out this many times. +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #98 ******************************