From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #91 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 11 1999 Volume 08 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Brighten my northern goddamn sky [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: 100% Pink Floyd content [Ben ] Re: 100% proggie content [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Brighten my northern goddamn sky [Ben ] Re: alt.music.fegmania, etc. [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: alt.music.fegmania, etc. [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Brighten my northern goddamn sky [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Weenie World [fred is ted ] More prog rock! Just what you wanted! [The Great Quail ] beatific cri de coeur [Gary Sedgwick ] Re: Albino dingdong penchants; more Japanese wackiness! ["Jason R. Thorn] Re: beatific cri de coeur [Danielle ] Re: beatific cri de coeur [amadain ] Re: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: 100% RH [Ken Ostrander ] SH in Chill lobbying (no coastal content) [DDerosa5@aol.com] Re: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! ["Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Brighten my northern goddamn sky >This is sorta related -- why did XTC do that version of Respectable Street >with all the words like >"abortion" changed? Was all that necessary to get BBC airtime... Yes. "Statue of Liberty" was also banned due to the line about "in my fantasy I sail beneath your skirt." >I've only just heard my first ND while watching the BBC's documentary >'A Stranger Among Us'. A beautiful talent, but the man was not well. Well, people who commit suicide usually aren't... >- --er, he utters the line, "ah, stand beck, dennis!" on STAND BACK, >DENNIS!, but i can't remember which song! yikes! Oooh... I think it's during the guitar solo in "I'm Only You," but I lent my copy to an Ann Arbor Chalkhillian in an attempt to convert him to the Dark Side of the Force, so I can't go and check. And surely you mean "Stand back, Dennis" and not "Stand beck, Dennis," although if the latter is the case, it could be added to our list of bands that mention other bands... >Why, you may ask, have I been playing lots of Jethro Tull lately? Because >I played the new XTC album at work a few times -- I LOVE it!!!!! -- and >my Japanese intern Choko, a noted jazz enthusiast, remarked that "they >sounded like Jethro Tull." > >Heh heh heh . . . oh, I only *wish* I could be watching Natalie's face as >she reads this. . . . Uhh - does "convulsive laughter" count as an expression? :) Actually, I sort of have a soft spot for Jethro Tull - it's right on the top of my head, like a fontanelle. I remember digging them when I was a kid. I don't really think Apple Venus sounds much like them, though, except for "Greenman" because it's got a flute in it. (Hey, maybe if XTC ever does the song live, they could recruit Ian Anderson... he could dye himself green!) lay your head, lay your head, lay your head, n. p.s. I'm going to see Dan Bern on Saturday. If I don't like him, I want Eddie to personally reimburse my $11 and parking money. p.p.s. The Feg of the Millenium tribute is brilliant. Viva Randi! Brava! Brava! and other foreign expressions of approbation! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:46:53 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: 100% Pink Floyd content Eb wrote: > Well, the thing is that Pink Floyd's position in "prog rock" is highly > debatable -- the jury is split right down the middle on that one. I've been > on the fence for years, but since observing more of the "prog community" > online, I'm starting to place Pink Floyd outside of prog. Nowadays, I think > of them more as a '60s psychedelic-rock band who matured into a stoner > FM-rock staple. If you look at the rec.music.progressive and > alt.fan.pink-floyd newsgroups, the difference in posts is startlingly > obvious. The rec.music.progressive folks have the typical overeducated, > pop-music-sucks, self-congratulatory arrogance of the diehard proggie, > while the a.m.p.f. folks are a bunch of immature, drunken, pot-riddled > airheads trading giggles and nerd jokes. Just the sort of dorks you see > waving lighters at arenas and showing off their neatly ironed tour shirts. > Clearly, there's a difference between the prog audience and Pink Floyd's. > Similarly, Pink Floyd is almost NEVER discussed in rec.music.progressive. > As time goes by, I think Pink Floyd becomes less and less a peer of Genesis > and Yes, and more a peer of, well, I dunno, the melodic long-hair rock you > heard on FM album radio during the genre's '70s glory days. Yes this is true. As someone who will sadly admit to shelling out a couple grand for nosebleed seats to one of the "Division Bell" concerts, this is the exact crowd that was in attendance. You can't blame Waters, he definitely saw this, and of course "The Wall" was inspired by it. I recently got an audience tape of a 1970 PF show, and it's amazing in that the audience is totally *silent* throughout even the quietest parts of the show, not like the football game atmosphere of the show I saw. To continue along the tape hoarding weenieism, check out a recording of one of the few Pink Floyd "Wall" shows from 1980/81; the portion where a dour voiced emcee comes out and starts telling the crowd stuff like, "anyone standing up from their seats WILL BE SHOT" is priceless. The spookiest thing is to see Gilmour and about 50 faceless studio musicians singing material like "Welcome To The Machine", seemingly oblivious to what's going on. Why don't they just do a PBS Red Rocks performance and throw in the towel?!?! > I mean, Pink > Floyd may have more in common with the Doors than prog-rock, really. Pink > Floyd was a lot more about creating mainstream radio hits than other prog > bands, even moreso than the aforementioned Jethro Tull (who also has sort > of an ambivalent relationship with the prog mindset, for similar reasons). But how many hit singles did PF have during their 70's glory days? The only ones I can think of are "Money" and "Another Brick In The Wall". Their 4 albums between "DSOTM" and "The Wall" were all definite album long pieces, although individual tracks from all but "Animals" could be played as radio friendly tunes. I don't think they intended to create mainstream radio hits, though their popularity forced DJ's to play certain selections. Look at how uneven and pointless the "A Collection Of Great Songs" compilation is. As William Ruhlmann says (ok I'm quoting a rock critic... kill me damn it KILL ME!!! ;] ) PF are "arguably the quintessential album band." Anyway, like the policeman in the liners to "Invisible Hits", I was always more of a Hawkwind fan. BTW has anyone seen y Orgone Accumulator??? ;] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:56:02 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: 100% proggie content On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: >> Y'kno, I think a strong case could be made for XTC posessing some >> prog influence, but real proggies must take our sad mainstream >> vindication through Styx and Kansas and ELO. Listening to Wall of >> Voodoo makes me feel better. >Some prog influence? 3 words: "River of Orchids". I maintain you >could have slipped that in a couple of Gentle Giant records and >nobody would have thought it out of place. And how about Prince >of Orange? To me, they never made the leap into full-on brain-splitting proggage. I never really considered GG that proggie, except that their fans are, almost without exception, proggies. I know I'm going to have my head drilled for saying that. >Mainstream prog? Pink Floyd. Tull. Genesis. Procol Harum. >They all got more radio play than Spiritualized (although I was >floored a few weeks back when I heard Spiritualized on a VW bug >commercial). That's probably completely true. Procol Harum was, to me, way too schizophrenic to be categorized. I don't think of PF, Tull, Genesis as so much "mainstream," as widely consumed. They did their thing. Granted, none of these are terribly progressive (except some Genesis.) "Mainstream" to me connotes the artist whoring themselves to sell records. This is why I took the whack at those I did. Maybe I'll stick PH in there too, but I'm a little too confounded by their lack of center. Looking back at my list, I'm not sure there's all that much in common, except a desire to experiment. And yet progressive rock doesn't encompass all experimental rock music, does it? >I've heard Radiohead's latest touted as "the Dark Side of the >Moon of the '90s". Is Radiohead prog rock different from Pink Floyd >prog rock because it's 25 years later? Haven't heard it. >Why does it seem other types of music are allowed to progress >except for "progressive rock"? Is it just a term for slagging >stuff one personally feels is pretentious, or does it represent a >sub-genre of rock music that can be identified in objective terms? I agree with the statement. I think I'm still a proggie, but most of the prog bands have stopped moving forward. It's just Crimso now, whose releases to which I look forward. >How about a non-facetious definition of progressive rock? It's kinda gestalt, really, and I'm sure anything that I put down here will be shot at, but I'll try when I get time. I've done this before, but it involves evolving melody, harmony, and rhythm to create something original. Unfortunately, many "prog rock" acts haven't done any of that since the thirties. I also think that progrock has become largely synonymous with complete "hooey" in lyric form. This has also chased me away. I'm not actually picking a fight here. Just sharing feelings. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:58:30 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: Brighten my northern goddamn sky Natalie Jacobs wrote: > >I've only just heard my first ND while watching the BBC's documentary > >'A Stranger Among Us'. A beautiful talent, but the man was not well. > > Well, people who commit suicide usually aren't... Actually, it's not really known if his overdose was accidental or intentional Although the man's state would lead you think it was intentional, it can't truly be said that he meant to kill himself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:32:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: alt.music.fegmania, etc. >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Christian Glenn writes: Paul> Also, I can't find a dictionary def of "feg" to save my Paul> life. Did somebody say the d-word? It awoke me from my cubicle slumber. 'The Fegs' are the notoriously violent denizens of Ferguslie Park, a less-than-choice area in Paisley, Scotland. This homonym might be unrelated to The Soft Boys playing a gig in The Bungalow Bar, Paisley. It went far better than everyone expected; Tobyn, Kimberley, et al are still alive. I believe the term 'They rocked the joint' would be what you young 'uns might say today. It might be false, but it makes a good story. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:58:08 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: creeque alley sprachen mein eb: Listened to new Blur last night. It's depressingly crummy. Their worst album since Leisure. I'm hesitant to shut them down early after a release. I _hated_ The Great Escape for about a year before finally caving into it. The self-titled album, too didn't grab me right away. I'm still waiting to be as impressed as I was by the first listen to Parklife. Though I'll probably get slammed for this I really like Leisure quite a bit; though probably for the same reasons I think that Pretty Hate Machine is about the only NIN record truly worth it's weight. Leisure's got some pretty good hooks in it. Anybody else heard/have the double "Bustin' and Dronin'?" Now that one I liked... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:06:53 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: alt.music.fegmania, etc. > >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Christian Glenn writes: > Paul> Also, I can't find a dictionary def of "feg" to save my > Paul> life. I think that the last time this was raised, there was general agreement that Robyn once had a car with a registration number which included the letters FEG. Isn't there an interview where he mentions this? And the fegMANIA album has a long explanation of fegMANIA, which presumably derives from the same hypothetical root *FEG. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:24:24 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Brighten my northern goddamn sky >p.s. I'm going to see Dan Bern on Saturday. If I don't like him, I want >Eddie to personally reimburse my $11 and parking money. I should kick in too, if you don't like him. Dan Bern is a deity, though somewhat streaky. His better performances are phenomenal, but I finally saw him at one of his lesser performances, and he was still rather good. I'm hoping Eddie and I can hold onto our dough. Happies, - -chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Weenie World Hey fegs, Weenie(ism)s and ketchup... Record label song = "EMI" by the Sex Pistols Eponymous song title = "Clash City Rockers"... Another Coke (tm) ref song by the Clash = "Strait to Hell." "Let me tell you 'bout your blood family, kid, it ain't Coca-Cola (tm), it's rice" Now that that's out of the way, may I suggest a thread about songs about bands that write songs about bands that write songs about bands? They Might Be Giant Dead Milkmen did one... Kubrick-bats: No question it was that little kid and his fucking talking finger that blighted "The Shining." My favorite haunted house movie remains "The Legend of Hell House," featuring Rowdy Roddy McDowall. For me, "Full Metal Jacket" was mainly distinguished by ooodles of quotables. Hell, even 2 Live Crew made a mint thereby. I recommend "Paths of Glory." Fabulous acting, as is the case in "Lolita," "Dr. Strangelove" and "A Clockwork Orange." Funny, Kubrick is rightly lauded for his visual flair, but he also knew how to flog good performances out of actors, at least until "The Shining." "Barry Lyndon" worked for me, but then, I'm a sucker for period pieces. Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 99 12:20:37 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! Well, ya'll know I am a pretty sizeable Prog rock fan, and I have to say that I agree with, like, 99% of Eb's Big Post on the subject -- *very* well stated, Eb. At the risk of sounding mushy or whatnot, you are one of the List's biggest assets, and though *what* you say may be up for disagreement, the *way* you word things is always very impressive. You have all the ways of a good critic -- to get to the nut of something with words, images, metaphors that sound perfect; to draw new connections, to highlight things that might have remained nebulous. . . . All right, enough praise for Eb, before he asks me out on a date. On to the letter at hand: Yes, King Crimson really is the only band from that era that escaped with their dignity intact; good Lord I even hate to *look* at the Moddies or ELP. Genesis is not what they were, and Yes fragmented far too much into a Jekyll/Hyde thing. (Though I do have a fondness for any Yes that does NOT have Rabin in it, including ABW&H. I think Trevor Rabin is the Antichrist. No, I really mean it. He is.) And some groups, like Van der Graaf Generator and Eloy just sort of vanished. . . . But we shouldn't overlook the many wonderful mutations and bastard sons of Prog. Perhaps in its pure form it's pretty dead -- early Marillion was the last hurrah, in my book -- but I like to think that I can enjoy certain music knowing in my heart that without Prog, it wouldn't be the same -- late Radiohead; the recent work of Peter Gabriel and Brian Eno; Tori Amos, even Primus. . . . and Phish. Yes, this whole post is really a Phish-head's attempt to sneak another bit of evangelizing on the List. I know that most folks think of Phish as the "new Grateful Dead," but that is an oversimplification. There is really a lot of the ol' prog aesthetic in their music, especially the early stuff (Junta, Pictures of Nectar, and Rift.) In fact, the person who got me into Phish was NOT a deadhead, but a Proggie, who saw Junta as more Yes-like than Deadish. (And I still think there's a lot of Zappa in there as well.) So anyway, I just wanted to chime in a good word for the Lads from Vermont while the subject was still hot. (Or at least warm. Er . . . tepid?) - --The Great "Rush still rules my world" Quail PS: Ah, Ben. Yes. I've got an orgone accumulator -- it's a social integrator. . . . PPS: You all do know that the *real* proggie on the List is Scary Mary, right? Anyone seeking a list of current bands that follow the Prog Ideal should seek her out. She must have, I am sure, a Doctorate of Proggology. I am in awe of her, and she likes only the good stuff, too. . . . +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:45:57 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: beatific cri de coeur Eb said: > Listened to new Blur last night. Thought you may be interested to hear of the typical UK "this is better than the Beatles" reviews 13 seems to be getting over here. I picked up MM & NME yesterday, which I haven't done in a *long* while, and was astounded by the quote: "Far superior to 'All You Need Is Love', 'Tender' is a mantra, a beatific cri de coeur, and the best British single since 'A Design For Life'". For Tomorrow is even better than Waterloo Sunset! Well, won't be buying MM or NME in a while again... Also, The Great Escape is apparently their masterpiece. I'd go for Parklife personally. Eb, I'd be interested in your thoughts of the new Suede and Catatonia albums when you get to hear them. And a big hello and thanks to Susan & SO for coming all the way over from Chicago just to see our band play!!! (I've been meaning to e-mail you both, which I promise I'll do soon...) Both lovely people - I hope to see the photos soon! We're playing next at the Half Moon in Putney next Tuesday, so pop along if you happen to be passing through this part of the world... Gary - -------------------------------- For latest Fly news, info and samples, go to: http://www.flyonline.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:43:03 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Albino dingdong penchants; more Japanese wackiness! At 08:21 PM 3/10/99 -0500, Scary Mary wrote: >At 07:32 PM 3/10/99 -0500, Monsieur Quail wrote: > >>np: "Sunday all over the World," Fripp's band right before the KC >>reunion, with Latoya Wilcox on vocals. This is a *great* CD. It is also a >>case of a band named after a song that appears on an album with the same >>name. >> >I thought I was the only person in this world who owned this cd. I agree >with Quail - it is a great cd. I love the "Latoya" renaming too. Nah, you're not the only one. There are a slew of paragraph-numbering "proggies" over on the Elephant Talk Mailing List that have it, and a bunchload of Chapman Stick players that bought it just to see "Stick" in the liner notes. This, coincidentally, is also the reason a lot of Stick players own Kajagoogoo records. I simply adore Trey Gunn's bass grooves on "Sunday All Over the World." I was a much bigger Gunn fan back before he decided to play more "lead" range sorts of things all the time. Of course, he's in a band with Tony Levin... If you enjoy the whole "Sunday" experience, you might be interested in checking out Trey Gunn's "1000 Years," or the two David Sylvian/Robert Fripp collaborations "The First Day" and "Damage." These all have a similar sort of vibe. Too shy, JT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:59:33 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: beatific cri de coeur Gary: > Thought you may be interested to hear of the typical UK "this is better > than the Beatles" reviews 13 seems to be getting over here. I was reading a British magazine - perhaps The Face or Q? - which said on the cover that 13 was 'the best record ever'. No, not *Blur's* best record ever. *The*, definitive, ultimate, Best Record Ever. ;) I dunno, the British music press is both irritating and endearing that way. I sorta admire and smile fondly at their chutzpah for saying such patently indefensible things - but at the same time, they make me splutter with irritation. *Way* more entertaining than Spin and Rolling Stone, though. > the best British > single since 'A Design For Life'". YURGH. How I *hate* the Manic Street Preachers. Boring wankers. > Also, The Great Escape is apparently their masterpiece. I'd go for > Parklife personally. Me too. But, as I say, I like all of them. Even baggy old Leisure. > Eb, I'd be interested in your thoughts of the new Suede and Catatonia > albums when you get to hear them. I would venture to guess that he won't like Suede for the same reasons he doesn't go overmuch for Pulp. 'Neo-Bowie posturing', I believe he calls it. ;) Danielle NP The baggy old Charlatans, Up to Our Hips _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:28:17 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: beatific cri de coeur >astounded by the quote: "Far superior to 'All You Need Is Love', >'Tender' is a mantra, a beatific cri de coeur, and the best British >single since 'A Design For Life'". For Tomorrow is even better than >Waterloo Sunset! Oh fer chrissakes. Get back to us in a years' time and see if you still think so. Especially if the album doesn't sell well. >And a big hello and thanks to Susan & SO for coming all the way over >from Chicago just to see our band play!!! Well, you could say it was a fortunate coincidence, or you could say that we just hop on planes whenever bands we want to see are playing ;). Doug put on your CD the morning after we got back. Surprised me a bit cause I had no idea what it was and didn't have any ready identifiers for it (e.g., "that sounds like x, y or z"). You know, I think you guys should think about a different first single. The one that stuck in both our heads was definitely "Wasted". >you both, which I promise I'll do soon...) Both lovely people - I hope >to see the photos soon! We have finally got them, but none of them are scanned in yet. I look forward to your reaction to them, especially since there are people in them I can't readily identify :). >We're playing next at the Half Moon in Putney next Tuesday, so pop along >if you happen to be passing through this part of the world... Do that. Fly is an excellent band, and Gary is a very nice fellow. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:19:49 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, The Great Quail wrote: > good Lord I even hate to *look* at the Moddies Spoken like a true Rocker! Smash the crash-helmet laws! Talking of Magma, did I ever tell you about when I was in a band supporting them? It was in Arnhem, 1975 or thereabouts, in a great big shed. The soundcheck just consisted of people bringing in more and more drums for Christian Vander to play. We never got to run through anything and I don't think the rest of Magma got much of a look-in either. Don't remember what the band sounded like at all, but the drums cut through OK! - - Mike Godwin PS I've said it before and I'll say it again: when Genesis started, they were completely under the influence of Family, the world's most under-rated prog/psychedelic outfit... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:31:13 -0500 From: Scary Mary Subject: Re: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! Quail so kindly opened Pandora's box (as opposed to Kate Bush, I am a pandora): > > PPS: You all do know that the *real* proggie on the List is Scary Mary, > right? Anyone seeking a list of current bands that follow the Prog Ideal > should seek her out. She must have, I am sure, a Doctorate of Proggology. > I am in awe of her, and she likes only the good stuff, too. . . . Anyone interested in Prog rock should check out the following site: http://www.progrock.net/ You can find oodles of information here. Jason Thornton mentioned: > I simply adore Trey Gunn's bass grooves on "Sunday All Over the World." I > was a much bigger Gunn fan back before he decided to play more "lead" range > sorts of things all the time. Of course, he's in a band with Tony Levin... > If you enjoy the whole "Sunday" experience, you might be interested in > checking out Trey Gunn's "1000 Years," or the two David Sylvian/Robert > Fripp collaborations "The First Day" and "Damage." These all have a > similar sort of vibe. Gunn's other release "The Third Star" is quite good too - a lot more quiet than "One Thousand Years" - dare I say bordering on ambient? Coming this month - new David Sylvian. I know of at least one feg other than me anxiously awaiting this release - hi Jeff. S.Mary - the frippoholic feg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:52:51 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: 100% RH >>>> >Do you realize that if "Jewels for Sophia" makes it on, and the working >>>> >title sticks, it'll be the first and otherwise only time an RH title >>>> >track has been on the album of the same name since 1980? >>>> >>>> i think you're forgetting 'i often dream of trains'. > >>unless my memory is going, Y&O is on Y&O. I think... ok, here's what i can figure. only four releases actually have a song with the same title as the album on that album. only two albums have the title songs from other albums. then there are three "iffy" songs that could be considered the title track; but the titles aren't the same; that is, if you don't try and find a "title song" for EYE. did i miss anything? 1978 Wading through a Ventilator 'wading through a ventilator' 1980 Underwater Moonlight 'underwater moonlight' 1981 Black Snake Diamond Role title track (kindof) on UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT 1984 I Often Dream of Trains 'i often dream of trains' 1986 Element of Light 'airscape' (kindof) 1988 Globe of Frogs 'globe of frogs' 1989 Queen Elvis title track on EYE 1991 Perspex Island 'birds in perspex' (kindof) 1995 You & Oblivion title track on MOSS ELIXER ken "gimme the meat" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:30:08 EST From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: SH in Chill lobbying (no coastal content) Responding to Susan's post, I agree we'd be very unlikely to get SH into Music Box for a week run, but I think it'd fit great into a midnight slot on Fridays and Saturdays--I just checked their March/APril schedule, and many of those midnight slots are listed as still open, which means to me that lobbying could work. I agree that we might help by getting booking info, but I bet they can figure out how to reach WBros--they just need to know if they will make money on it, and if it's "art" (since many of their art films seem to play to impressively empty houses.) I've just sent an e-query to MB to ask if they "take requests", and how it would work. Will post back. If MB does not come through, Facets would be a fine choice, they'll show anything out of the mainstream (which I'd argue is where WB dumped SH), though I could see them being afraid of Demme ("You mean the Silence of the Lambs guy?") Following on my plan for MB midnight shows, it also might be worthwhile figgering out how to talk to the Village Theatres about their late shows--wouldn't it be fun to get SH playing regularly? I mean, it's no RHPS, or The Wall, but with all the fans I see in Chicago, I bet it could do well quarterly... OK-- maybe that's a pipe dream, I just don't wanna watch the damn thing on a fuzzy TV. Perhaps we needn't burden the whole list with this, but I wasn't sure if the ChillFegs I've heard from was the full extent. If we're gonna act like the grassroots, let's get our friends to do it too. Once I know who to ask, I say we bombard them... dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:47:53 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: More prog rock! Just what you wanted! At 01:31 PM 3/11/99 -0500, Scary Mary (boo!) wrote: >Gunn's other release "The Third Star" is quite good too - a lot more >quiet >than "One Thousand Years" - dare I say bordering on ambient? And there's even a track on it with LaToyah on guest vocals. Sunday All Over The World, all over again, with Trey playing Fripp crafty protege all over the place. >Coming this month - new David Sylvian. I know of at least one feg other >than me anxiously awaiting this release - hi Jeff. I've had a promo copy of this album for a few months now. Overall, you're in for a treat - a very diverse collection of songs, and all very Sylvian-esque. There are even a couple of pieces that sound positively "First Day" like, even without a Fripp around. A few of the tracks kinda wander off into the R&B realm, though. Still, musically, it's some of the best stuff Sylvian's ever done. Lyrically, he tends to rely on too many gooberish New Age mumblings. More so now more than ever. Despite this, he pulls off a few lyrical gems, most notably "I Surrender" and "Thalheim." The one place where his mumbo jumbo metaphysical leanings actually works extremely well is a piece called "Praise," on which Sylvian plays some ambient guitar underneath the soft Indian female vocals performed by one of his gurus. Believe me, I know how that my description probably turns a lot of people off, but it really works here, in a "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" cross-cultural musical hybrid sort of way, as opposed to a techno-pygmy crystal-power exploitive sorta way. Likely the reason this song does work so well is because Sylvian expresses his spirituality musically, rather than by dropping words like "angel" and "god" into his songs yet again. Of course, translate his guru's lyrics, and who knows what kind of simplistic babblings you might find. All that said, "Dead Bees on a Cake" is the best 1999 release I've heard so far. Although, currently "AV1" has me in its sway. Cheers! - --JT ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #91 ******************************