From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #88 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 08 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: cocafuckingcola [Eb ] Re: cocafuckingcola [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #87 [Natalie Jacobs ] I've enough shiny things... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: couple fegrelated things. [Tom Clark ] Re: couple fegrelated things. [Bayard ] Re: cocafuckingcola [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] getting violent... [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: Straight Outta Enola ["JH3" ] _jewels for sophia_ [Bayard ] Re: _jewels for sophia_ [Ben ] Lyrics - help me make sure they're right. [Bayard ] misc. catching up [Scary Mary ] greetings ["chad leahy" ] Re: Stickers. [lj lindhurst ] forward if you'd like (robyn related) [John Barrington Jones ] Nick Drake [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: dinofuckingsaurs [hal brandt ] Crimso [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Virgin press release of possible interest [Eb ] Re: forward if you'd like (robyn related) [Eric Loehr ] Re: Crimso [steve ] Re: Crimso [The Great Quail ] Re: a *spectacularly* weenie-eque XTC fan [Hedblade@aol.com] Bustos Domecq, RIP [The Great Quail ] RE: cocafuckingcola [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: if only you wouldn't clap so hard [Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: cocafuckingcola >On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: >> Don't bet your hard-earned dough on Eddie...I suspect that I have a huge >> advantage, when it comes to reach. > >Eb, eb, eb, eb. > >There is so much more to kickboxing than biometrics. > >What eddie lacks in reach, he makes up for in furvor and guile. Yeah...my obtuse, passive qualities really could bring me down, eh? ;P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:53:28 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: cocafuckingcola In a message dated 99-03-09 14:31:52 EST, you write: << i love this. anyway, how many songs can we come up with that mention the world's most powerful beverage? >> "Coke after Coke after Coke after Coca-Cola," from one of the between- song jingles on the Who's "Who Sell Out." - ------Michael K., referencing yet another concept album, just to irritate Eb ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:08:14 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #87 >Okay - I will read the digests from January and February - in my spare >time...and though it will feel like diving into a pool I haven't seen for >several months...I think I will declare myself officially back. Yay!! The Feg of the Millenium returns!! >hey, speaking of grudge matches, >who should eMpTyV put on celebrity deathmatch against robyn? >andy partridge? Ian Penman, of course. Andy Partridge can fight his ex-wife and/or Dave Gregory. >2. I'll likely be in Portland the weekend of May 1st, and in San >Francisco or Santa Cruz the weekend of May 8th. There is some chance the >Feg of the Millenium will be visiting Portland too. fegFEST, anyone? Hrm... this could be a perfect excuse for me to obey Jeme's command by visiting Portland. Depends on the job situation though... Pencil me in, anyway. n., voting for non-reflective Thoth stickers... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:14:05 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: I've enough shiny things... I'm distracted by more than enough shiny things 'round here as it is. Make mine matte. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:41:42 -0600 From: amadain Subject: RE: cocafuckingcola >Wasn't it "cherry cola, c-o-l-a cola?" As Eric said: >"I met her in a club down in old Soho where you drink champagne and it >tastes just like Coca Cola C-O-L-A cola" which got changed to cherry cola >for the single in the (I think) UK. It was changed to "cherry cola" because of the aforementioned BBC law about advertising. Versions with both lyrics exist- the live versions are usually (suprise!) Coca-Cola. Speaking of which (and since Michael K. mentioned the album), here's something odd. At the Museum of the Moving Image in London they have this display called "Youth Culture Jukebox", or something like that. Anyway, you can press the buttons for various things e.g., "mod", "Glam", "70s", or what have you, and you can see performances that were shown on TV or commercials that reflect advertising attempts to capture that particular youth culture's sensibility. Anyway, there's one from the 60s for Coke that has that "things go better with COKE!", just like on Who Sell Out, but it's not them doing it and isn't quite like the version on the album. So which came first? Was the Who's cut a pisstake of the commercial (showing happy, fashionable young people gallivating round neon urban landscapes drinking Coca-Cola) or did the commercial get the song from them? Or is this a promotional film thingie and not even an ad at all? If so, it was rather clever as it damn sure looked like an ad. Love on ya, Susan just finished helping His Dougness shovel the walks out from under another razzafraggin snow- apartment dwelling is starting to look -really- good right about now! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:00:08 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: couple fegrelated things. On 3/9/99 12:39 PM, Bayard wrote: >anyone who can cut me to ribbons and make me laugh really >hard in one remark is OK in my book! Isn't this just about ANYONE? ;^P - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:10:20 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: couple fegrelated things. On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Tom Clark wrote: > On 3/9/99 12:39 PM, Bayard wrote: > > >anyone who can cut me to ribbons and make me laugh really > >hard in one remark is OK in my book! > > Isn't this just about ANYONE? ;^P HA HA H... wait a minute, that's not funny... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:35:53 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: cocafuckingcola [on kickboxing] >On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: >> Don't bet your hard-earned dough on Eddie...I suspect that I have a huge >> advantage, when it comes to reach. >Eb, eb, eb, eb. >There is so much more to kickboxing than biometrics. >What eddie lacks in reach, he makes up for in furvor and guile. >Oh yeah, and he cheats. Also, he knows Bart's "Touch of Death" (Waayyaah) which beats kung fu grip, anyday. You just have to hope that Eddie can't lay a finger on you. - -Not the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:23:34 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: getting violent... On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:40:32 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >>i hereby challenge you to a kickboxing match. >>that's right, paco: kickboxing. > >it's STILL the sport of the future. >this could be better than 'allie mcbeal' or GLOW. better than the Glamorous Ladies of Wrestling? I dunno...let's see what WWF's Vince McMahon come sup with next... > >hey, speaking of grudge matches, >who should eMpTyV put on celebrity deathmatch against robyn? >andy partridge? > I would say Kurt Cobain for stealing his 'college rock' airplay in 1991, but.... but seriously, does anyone have any idea what tunes Robyn has been performing will be on the new album? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:39:19 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Straight Outta Enola >Chapter 2: The Lion Sleeps Tonite I finally got a spare moment just now to read this. It's quite good, actually - though admittedly, the "McFly" thing *is* too referential, and "I could snap your neck like a fucking twig" is a bit of a cliche, even coming from an Catholic archbishop. But those are minor glitches, if you ask me... I like the opening misdirection ploy ("News of Purvis' beheading" etc.); it seems to go nowhere, but it's actually taking the place of what might have otherwise been a lame expository opening such as "It's 2045 and the world is controlled by some curly-haired guy named Alan." (Openings are always a problem when dealing with these "dark-future" stories.) And "Quailigula"! Why didn't *I* think of that? Much better than "Quailopatra" or "Quailophenia" or even "Bring Me the Head of Alquailo Garcia." But, unfortunately, as Eb says, the fact that the story never mentions him personally sort of invalidates the entire effort. On the other hand, that story I posted here recently didn't mention him either! Could this be some sort of horrible *trend*? Maybe Eddie should've posted it to the XTC list instead... John H. Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:39:55 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: _jewels for sophia_ > but seriously, does anyone have any idea what tunes Robyn has > been performing will be on the new album? the good ones? maybe "...nasa clapping", "elizabeth jade"... it looks to be a very energetic disc! Do you realize that if "Jewels for Sophia" makes it on, and the working title sticks, it'll be the first and otherwise only time an RH title track has been on the album of the same name since 1980? whew! =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:56:33 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: _jewels for sophia_ What about "Globe Of Frogs"? Have we forgotten that one already...? ;) Bayard wrote: > > but seriously, does anyone have any idea what tunes Robyn has > > been performing will be on the new album? > > the good ones? maybe "...nasa clapping", "elizabeth jade"... it looks to > be a very energetic disc! > > Do you realize that if "Jewels for Sophia" makes it on, and the working > title sticks, it'll be the first and otherwise only time an RH title > track has been on the album of the same name since 1980? > > whew! > > =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:08:00 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Lyrics - help me make sure they're right. > > Do you realize that if "Jewels for Sophia" makes it on, and the working > > title sticks, it'll be the first and otherwise only time an RH title > > track has been on the album of the same name since 1980? > What about "Globe Of Frogs"? Have we forgotten that one already...? ;) The song on that album is called *A* Globe of Frogs. I thought someone might bring that one up, though. Listen y'all, if you have the tape compilation _Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party_, have a look at http://158.72.105.122/gh/rb/songs.asp (or go to travel.to/glasshotel and click "laboratory" and "lyrics". I'll be posting the lyrics to those new songs there for verification of their accuracy. Big thanks to Eric L. for helping with the typing-in! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:16:49 -0500 From: Scary Mary Subject: misc. catching up Catching up with the past... I was extremely saddened when Eb posted the news about Stanley Kubrick. He was definitely my favourite movie director, followed closely by Burton, Lynch, Gilliam, and the Coen brothers. I can only hope that "Eyes Wide Shut" will be shown as Kubrick created it, without any Hollywood tampering. South of the border feg trip: I'm all for basking on a sultry beach down south. After the snowfall today as well as continuing through the night, bring on the heat! Recommended feg reading: Has anyone read the books by Karen Elizabeth Gordon? Titles that I own include "The Deluxe Transitive Vampire: The Ultimate Handbook of Grammar for the Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed," "The New Well-Tempered Sentence: A Punctuation Handbook for the Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed," "Torn Wings and Faux Pas: A Flashbook of Style, a Beastly Guide Through the Writer's Labyrinth," and "The Disheveled Dictionary: A Curious Caper Through Our Sumptuous Lexicon." These books are filled with wonderful images of bats, flying frogs, lamia (hi Quail), strange creatures of the night, and yes, even topless women. The books also use unorthodox examples: "Adjective: The 'dark' side of Loona is the one he already knows." "Noun: Timofey is more afraid of the 'dark' now that he is dead." "The Disheveled Dictionary" contains a plethora of wonderful words. S. Mary ps - Bayard, lunch next week? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 16:38:14 +0000 From: "chad leahy" Subject: greetings greetings, all. just thought i'd waste a few seconds of your day introducing myself. my name is chad and i've been listening to hitchcock for a couple of years. when a friend told me about this list i decided i couldn't let him have all the fun. that's all for now. please resume your daily activities. chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:52:14 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Stickers. Capuchin: >He's the only one to weigh in on the subject. > >> perfect for the auto I just acquired (sorry, I live in LA, a car is >> a necessity here). > >While it DOES upset me that you acquired a car, I'm somewhat pleased to >hear that you feel you must apologize for it. Wow, you ARE from Portland, aren't you? Times"Poke out your eyes And move to Portland Kill your wife And move to Portland Burn down your home And move to Portland Come on everybody, We're movin' to Portland!" (DM quote, since it seems to always please everyone) lj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:43:08 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: forward if you'd like (robyn related) "Storefront Hitchcock" review from 15 Jan 99 Goldmine Magazine This new offering from RH is actually the soundtrack to the film of the same title directed by Jonathan Demme (which was to premiere November 18th as of this writing.) Filmed and recorded over two days and four shows in an abandoned warehouse with a small audience in attendance, this 64-minute disc contains 12 tunes, some old, some new. In between the music is the usual Hitchcock banter, though there's no ultra-long surreal ramblings. "This is Storefront Hitchcock, CD version. Hi, is my hair alright?" opens the set as he segues into "1974", an acoutic tune with references to David Crosby, Syd Barrett, Billy Idol, and "a bloke with no hands." It's very funny with a pinch of melancholia. On "Freeze" (from Queen Elvis) he switches to a grinding electric guiatar. On all but four tunes he plays solo, like so many of his recent concerts, and he's got it down to perfection since disbanding the Egyptians (at least for now). Perhaps the most interesting undertaking here is his cover of Hendrix's "The Wind Cries Mary," with Hitchcock on acoustic guitar and harmonica (on which he plays a solo). Not to say this compares to the original, but he certainly reinvents the thing. A limited-edition double-vinyl version is also available. There's a few songs on the vinyl album not on the CD and the spoken work introductions are all different. Just call it marketing to chase down a few extra sales from the "Cult Of Hitchcock." I can't wait to see the flick. - -Brad Bradberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:56:41 -0500 From: Scary Mary Subject: two in one day...a record Thought I'd post topical shows for the DC area: Black Cat March 18th - Sleater Kinney April 7th - Olivia Tremor Control and Elf Power April 20th - Mercury Rev 9:30 Club March 14th - Rufus Wainwright March 23rd - Elliott Smith The Residents are also playing the 9:30 Club in April. Any word on this tour? Any area fegs attending these shows? S. Mary ps - Hi Randi - good to see you posting again. Quail - the Daevid Allen show in Baltimore is April 10th. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:01:37 +1300 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Nick Drake >On Nick Drake's "Mayfair," he forgets the lyrics to the last line of a >verse and then mutters "Instrumental bit" and laughs. (The notion of Nick >Drake laughing is slightly surreal, but there it is.) I want to thank all of you, and the gentle and undeliberate prodding of Roy Colbert, Dunedin music maven, for finally introducing me to the joys of Nick Drake. The other day, I walked into Roy's shop and heard the most delightful almost-but-not-quite-Donovan song, with the unmistakeable (to me, anyway) bass playing of Danny Thompson accompanying the glorious cello and bittersweet vocals. After standing transfixed for a moment or five, I went up to Roy and asked what it was. Turned out to be "Cello song", the first track on the Nick Drake best of "Way to Blue". With that, I had three bits of information. 1) Roy only plays music he likes in that shop, and his taste is excellent. 2) Fegs everywhere keep on going on about Nick Drake, and their taste is (often) impeccable. 3) Cello Song had me enmeshed in its eerie web. I never buy a CD on one hearing of only one track. Except maybe this time. It has not left my CD player since, and finally I see the missing link that connects Donovan's, the Byrds', Cat Stevens' and Al Stewart's music. Lovely. I think, in fact, whee! James PS - "6 degrees" fanatics should note that one track on this CD features John Cale and Dave Mattacks, making it a logical stepping stone to just about everywhere. James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:04:52 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: dinofuckingsaurs The Great Quail wrote: > np: Jethro Tull. Deal with it. Ha! I just picked up "Thick As A Brick" on CD after all this time and was enjoying the hell out of it (I've got every goddamn note memorized) and then I see this post. Deal me in, Quail. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:06:08 +1300 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Crimso >"When I Say Stop Continue" is a ditty from a King Crimson >(Thrakattack?) CD ISTR it's on "Vrooom", the 'official bootleg' of the sessions that went to make Thrak. James (who, after Vrooom, Thrak, B'boom and Thrakkattak, is busily waiting for King Crimson to release something called Binggggyawwwwannggyyyyyawaangggg) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:37:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Virgin press release of possible interest >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >VIRGIN RELEASES RAVENOUS SOUNDTRACK > >COLLABORATION BETWEEN BLUR'S DAMON ALBARN >AND RENOWNED SOUNDTRACK COMPOSER MICHAEL NYMAN > >New York, New York -- Virgin Soundtracks is pleased to announce the release >of the soundtrack to the film Ravenous, in stores on March 9. > >Ravenous illustrates the fruits of a true collaboration between soundtrack >composer Michael Nyman and Blur’s Damon Albarn. The two co-wrote much of >the material, and used their respective studios (Nyman’s Air Studios, and >Albarn’s 13 studio) to record the music used to transport the listener back >to 1847 Gold Rush-era California. Using original Native American music and >old-fashioned instruments such as the cymbalom (or dulcimer), the two >succeeded in creating an unusual, "archaic" sound mostly unfamiliar to >modern ears. Nyman, long familiar with the work of Stephen Foster, >rearranged some of his quadrilles for this soundtrack.. > >Nyman and Albarn previously worked together on the track, "London Pride," >for the Red Hot Aids Charitable Trust’s compilation 20th Century Blues, a >tribute album to Noel Coward. Albarn has also worked previously with >Ravenous director Antonia Bird on the set of the movie Face, where he had >his first big-screen debut as a gangster on the run. > >Ravenous stars Robert Carlyle, Guy Pearce, Jeffrey Jones, Jeremy Davies and >David Arquette. The film bases its story on the Donner Pass disaster of >1846-47, in which a group of immigrants were snowbound for months en route >to California, enduring harsh conditions and months of starvation. The film >is directed by Antonia Bird, who has also directed such films as Priest, >Face and Safe, all starring Robert Carlyle. She made her US directorial >debut with Mad Love. The film is set for release through Twentieth Century >Fox/Fox 2000 on March 19th. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: forward if you'd like (robyn related) On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, John Barrington Jones wrote: > "Storefront Hitchcock" review from 15 Jan 99 Goldmine Magazine > > This new offering from RH is actually the soundtrack to the film of the > same title directed by Jonathan Demme (which was to premiere November 18th > as of this writing.) Filmed and recorded over two days and four shows in an > abandoned warehouse with a small audience in attendance, this 64-minute > disc contains 12 tunes, some old, some new. In between the music is the > usual Hitchcock banter, though there's no ultra-long surreal ramblings. > "This is Storefront Hitchcock, CD version. Hi, is my hair alright?" opens > the set as he segues into "1974", an acoutic tune with references to David > Crosby, Syd Barrett, Billy Idol, and "a bloke with no hands." It's very Billy Idol? E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 22:15:04 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Crimso James Dignan: >James (who, after Vrooom, Thrak, B'boom and Thrakkattak, is busily waiting >for King Crimson to release something called >Binggggyawwwwannggyyyyyawaangggg) Maybe they should just make a deal with Magma. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 99 23:51:58 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Crimso Scary "How long did you spend on that naked woman in Photoshop, anyway, Sinfield-boy" Mary writes: >Quail - the Daevid Allen show in Baltimore is April 10th. Steve "Do not worship the Cheesy Poofs" Schiavo writes: >Maybe they should just make a deal with Magma. MAGMA?!?!?! Daevid Allen of GONG!??!?! Can this be? Can both of these bands be referenced within a three hour period on my beloved Feglist? (Well, Gong, ok, I can understand, they are a Feg-band in the same way that Oasis, the Dead, Tool and Godspeed John Glenn are.) But Magma?! Those ever delightful lads who invented an entire dialect of Volapük just to sing three-hour long songs about (undoubtedly) elves and faeries and mountains that come out of the sky, and stand there? What can possibly be next? The Pink Faries? Chrome? The Ray Cromley Experience? Damn, this is a great day on the Feg List. - --Quail PS: Hal, I assume that was the 25th anniversary "Thick as a Brick," yes? Have you read the whole paper yet? Sigh. . . . memories. . . . PPS: And Eb, yes, I know that Gong and Magma toured together once. np: The TV, which is showing an pink inflatable dolphin on some weirdass show called "Rock Shop" that LJ won't turn off. This has to be Mike Runion's fault. Oh, yeah -- Hi Chad. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:03:51 EST From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Re: a *spectacularly* weenie-eque XTC fan In a message dated 3/9/99 3:03:40 AM EST, gondola@deltanet.com writes: << http://home.earthlink.net/~emerson7/VirginSucks.htm Eb, one of those infamous "30 people" >> The real story here are the two MASSIVE moments of irony that occurred... 1) XTC appearing at a VIRGIN store after such a bitter "divorce" from the company. 2) Eb actually being part of a line to meet a rock group. ;) Blinking On And Off, Jay H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 99 00:02:04 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Bustos Domecq, RIP In light of the recent thread of Feg Books and our sadly growing number of celebrity deaths: I was just notified that Adolfo Bioy-Casares died today at the age of 84. He was the longtime friend and collaborator of Jorge Luis Borges, and was responsible for quite a few very surreal and intriguing works of Argentine fiction. I know this may not be as striking as Joe or Stan, but I do know there are quite a few Borges fans on the List. "Then Bioy-Casares recalled that one of the heresiarchs of Uqbar had stated that mirrors and copulation are abominable, since they both multiply the numbers of man." - --Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius - --Q ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:56:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: RE: cocafuckingcola >>>>> "Tom" == Thomas, Ferris writes: (can't remember who wrote those 'cos someone's got broken quoting) Tom> isn't there some law in the uk forbidding the specific Tom> "advertising" of a product in any song that's broadcast on Tom> the bbc? nothing for free. Yes. Plus the BBC has a habit (or used to) of banning songs, which was a sure way of making them sell thousands more. But then, living in a country where saying 'fuck'* on the telephone is illegal, it hardly suprises me. Stewart *: since this goes over a PSTN. I just broke the law. Similarly, anyone in the UK that forwards this or causes it to be transmitted over a PSTN or other public network is breaking the law. Freedom's great, innit? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:40:56 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: cocafuckingcola On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, amadain wrote: > Anyway, there's one from the 60s for Coke that > has that "things go better with COKE!", just like on Who Sell Out, but it's > not them doing it and isn't quite like the version on the album. So which > came first? Was the Who's cut a pisstake of the commercial (showing happy, > fashionable young people gallivating round neon urban landscapes drinking > Coca-Cola) or did the commercial get the song from them? It was a normal advertising jingle before the Who got hold of it. AFAIK, this is true of all the jingles on 'Who Sell Out', including 'It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound of wonderful Radio London'. This isn't a piss-take, it really is Pop Art, taking ephemeral advertising material and preserving it in a work of art, just like Drella. The aim is to make the whole album sound like a typical pirate radio broadcast. I didn't realise that 'cherry cola' was originally 'Coca-Cola' in 'Lola'. Another well-known example is Dr Hook's 'The cover of the Radio Times' (a BBC publication) which they recorded specially after the BBC refused to play 'The cover of the Rolling Stone'. The BBC have also refused to play Commander Cody's 'Hot Rod Lincoln' and Paul Simon's brilliant 'Kodachrome'. Incidentally, glam-rock seems to be staging a UK media comeback. The new series 'The Grimleys', set in 1975 Dudley, features Noddy Holder as a music teacher and Alvin Stardust as a barman, and the background music is all Bay City Rollers, Sweet, Mud etc. Neil the Hippy (Nigel Planer) has been transformed into a grumpy old dad. And on last week's 'This is your life', the guest was Suzi Quatro, with appearances by Noddy Holder (again), members of the Sweet, Les Gray of Mud, Nicky Chinn etc. Well we sang shang-a-lang as we ran with the gang ... - - Mike Godwin PS IIRC, the full lyric is: Things go better with Coca-Cola Things go better with Coke Things go better with Coca-Cola Things go better with Coke Things go better with Things go better with Things go better with Coke! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:19:35 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: if only you wouldn't clap so hard On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > in the robyn, bob & albert show, robyn > comes back out after Like A Rolling Stone and says that after that, bob > "supernovaed" and never did anything else of value. that may be > exaggerating robyn's feelings. but only a bit, it seems. and it's not > the only time he's said such-like thing. he's constantly saying how > horrid dylan's career has become. but he's also, of course, quite > reverential when speaking of those early years. I just read the C P Lee book on the Free Trade Hall show, and CP makes out a case that Dylan was in ultra-creative mode until the motor-cycle crash. He also puts forward arguments for occult readings of some of the songs (notably 'She belongs to me'), and even mentions Thoth at one point! CP is not putting down the later Dylan, just saying that it required an incredible level of artistic commitment to stick with a tour where he was getting barracked at virtually every performance. "Nothing acts faster than Anadin, except maybe soluble Disprin" - - Mike Godwin PS re SK: That deeply silly Starchild sequence in 2001 finished SK for me - - you might as well watch the Antonioni film with the exploding cornflake packets, Zabriskie Point ... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #88 ******************************