From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #84 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 7 1999 Volume 08 : Number 084 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fegbooks; JWH [Jean Katherine Rossner ] What's On My Mind [Jon Kanis ] Re: more mentions ["she.rex" ] Re: Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets ["she.rex" ] all authors, all the time ["she.rex" ] Re: Mistakes in songs ["she.rex" ] Re: Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets ["she.rex" ] ROO-FUSS [Zloduska ] Re: Sleater-Kinney (was Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets) [steve ] Nilsson/Smith [Terrence M Marks ] Potential LA feg-gathering!! ;) [Eb ] Late bulletin? [Eb ] more [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #83 ["Angel Jones" ] Partially Thawing [Hedblade@aol.com] Re: all authors, all the time [dmw ] Re: Welcome, Paul... [Bayard ] quick question ["Capitalism Blows" ] MAJOR CALAMITY!! [Eb ] NOT an Internet hoax [Eb ] a black day [Eb ] just rambling, at this point [Eb ] SK [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 15:17:15 -0800 From: Jean Katherine Rossner Subject: Fegbooks; JWH Fegbooks: Having just finished re-reading the Fionavar Tapestry trilogy for at least the sixth time, I have to recommend it to anybody who likes high fantasy. Yes, the Tolkien homage is way too obvious; yes, it's a mishmosh of several different mythologies (which JRRT would probably have hated); yes, it's excruciatingly sad in about eight places (though I find it cathartic, mostly). I don't care. It's gorgeous. Oh, the specific titles (and author) are: The Summer Tree, The Wandering Fire, The Darkest Road. By Guy Gavriel Kay. And then The Once and Future King, by T.H. White. Has anybody mentioned The Dark is Rising, by Susan Cooper? There must be some more mundane fiction...or even nonfiction!...but I can't think of any right now. ***** >From: Michael Brage >The mention of JWH reminds me that John Wesley Harding has a new record out >(it may be a month or so old). Can anyone provide comments? I've not >really enjoyed his last few efforts. Sorry if this has already been >discussed, I've moved and just got back on the list after 6 to 7 months off. "Trad. Arr. Jones" just came out at the end of February. Since I'll be seeing JWH at the Freight & Salvage on March 26, I decided to wait and get it directly from him instead of via Amazon.com or whatever. I've enjoyed some of his recent stuff (though "Awake" didn't thrill me), but this should be very different; it's *all* traditional ballads. He gave samples--about half the album, I think--at the Freight in December. Great if you like trad. More comments in a few weeks probably... Katherine n.p. Colum Sands, THE MARCH DITCH (neotrad) - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 19:03:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Kanis Subject: What's On My Mind Dear Fegs: It has been awhile (like all of 1998) since I last posted, but like a twenty-year old soap opera, you change the channel, you come back, and the same familiar characters are still hanging out. Eb is right about all the tongue wagging on the Chalkhills list. I thought about going to LA for the signing, but I had my thrill in '89 with the Oranges And Lemons promo blitz. I'm sure it was a blast. I am still trying to get into the record (Apple Venus 1) BTW. Storefront Hitchcock has yet to play in San Diego. Has it come out on video yet anywhere? On the Zappa referencing other bands: check out Call Any Vegetable on Just Another Band From LA, Flo and Eddie rubbing CSNY and Joni Mitchell through the muck with "Elliot Roberts bankbook" to the tune of Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. I also have a offer to throw out to the general population: I have access to a CD burner at the present and if any list members need to fill in any holes in their collections email me privately and I'll be happy to talk about swapping blanks or something. Desert island discs at the moment: 1) Rubber Soul/Beatles 2) Forever Changes/Love 3) Respect/Robyn Hitchcock 4) Katy Lied/Steely Dan 5) Capt. Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy/Elton John 6) Kind Of Blue/Miles Davis 7) Skylarking/XTC 8) Odessey And Oracle/The Zombies 9) (undecided) 10) "I Only Have Eyes For You"/The Flamingos That's it for now. Where is Robyn at the moment? How close is the new album to being finished? Over and out, Jon n.p. Message From The Country, The Move _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 22:38:20 From: "she.rex" Subject: Re: more mentions Ok, before this thread is over I gotta get *one* in on two counts: World Party - formed by Karl Wallinger, formerly of the Waterboys, and presumably named for a Waterboys song (which appeared on _Fisherman's Blues_) *and* they also had their own song _World Party_, which was completely different from that of the Waterboys. Whew! And thanks for reminding me how much I liked Mojo Nixon, esp the loving effort of one Capitalism Blows for the lyric. (Someone stole my _Elvis Is Everywhere_ comment long ago. Oh, well...) She.Rex (off to find an old Mojo & Skid recording) - -------------------------- Mister mister mister I'm just looking for a change in my luck Mister mister mister I'm just looking for a change in my luck Looking for a change in my luck Baby baby baby I'm just looking with my eye to the sky Baby baby baby I'm just looking with my eye to the sky With my eye to the sky Looking, I'm gonna keep on looking babe Keep on looking, I'm gonna keep on looking babe, for a change Sister sister sister I'm just looking for a change in my love Sister sister sister I'm just looking for a change in my love Looking for a change Looking, I'm gonna keep on looking babe... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:05:44 From: "she.rex" Subject: Re: Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets At 06:11 PM 3/6/99 -0600, GSS wrote: >she.rex wrote: >> > >> (p.s. I'm unclear on the didacts and narpets... are they protein, too?) > >"Didacts and Narpets" is a Rush song from 'Caress of Steel'. Oh - duh! Thanks. Cool name. >didactic means - to inform or teach entertainingly; like a good >instructor or professor, I think..... This I got from the dictionary but Narpet was not to be found. Even though I participate in several literary lists, this is the only one that sends me for the dictionary! I like that. >I am not exactly sure what a 'narpet' is, but it os often used as a >character name in role playing games. Someone once said that 'narpets' >is a variation of a greek word meaning - parents or people who raise or >guide someone morally. Interesting! I learn something here every day, in fact often several things a day. >> >> Buick, Buick >> Buick Mackane will ya >> Buick Mackane will ya be my girl? >> Be my girl? >> >> Rainy lady >> Queen of the rock will ya >> Help me roll? >> Help me roll to my soul? >> >> Slider, slider >> You're just a sexual glider >> You're just a sexual glider >> Be my plane in the rain > >Interesting poem. I assume you wrote this since you did not list an >author. Is it a song? I should clarify. This is a T.Rex song, _Buick Mackane_ from the LP _Slider_ (1972) and it's got a great groove, esp against the backdrop of the fairly easy feel of those early LP's (this was the second one they released after shortening their name from Tyrannosaurus Rex, simultaneously going from a trippy hippy sound to more of a rock band). Almost all my ending lyrics are from T.Rex, and that is also where I got my net identity She.Rex. I suppose I should not have assumed everyone here would recognize Bolan's writing. The only exception IIRC has been _Brontosaurus_, which was a very odd song Tim Curry sang on his first LP _Read My Lips_ - don't know who wrote it because a very kind soul has all my TC LP's this moment and is burning them to cd - YAY!!! (or should I say *whee*?) - ----------------------- Your mama said, "Clean out your head boy, Don't lay nothing on my child." Your friends they said, "Your head's in a noose boy, Lay some boogie on our minds." And we stood like the rapids And I was like a new born child Your father said, "Clean out your head boy, go and kick cans along the street." Your father said, "Clean out your toes rose, And go and lick some uncooked meat." And we stood like the rapids And I was like a new born child Your mama said, "My babe is not free son, But I'm loose about midnight" Your father said, "Your sister's a groove boy, What I said it just ain't right." But then I stood like the rapids And I was like a new born child Won't you tell me why? - -- Marc Bolan, T.Rex, _The Rapids_, from _Tanx_ 1973 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:43:44 From: "she.rex" Subject: all authors, all the time Doug wrote: >i spent much of last evening watching two snakes crawling under the >clothes of three young women. tentacles would appear and disappear in >startling ways; strange bulges would ripple across a torso or a sleeve. >the effect was so forcibly lovecraftian as to make me wonder if ol' howard >had friends who inadequately tried to conceal their reptilian pets from >him, and that the gentleman's prose might be far more naturalistic than i >had hitherto imagined. Um, was this a dream? A movie? This time I just *had* to ask. She.Rex - --------------- surely you've had enough for one night? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:34:40 From: "she.rex" Subject: Re: Mistakes in songs How about Billy Joel getting messed up and laughing at himself during _You're Only Human (Second Wind)_ and they left it in? Or was this on purpose? And on _Athens, GA - Inside/Out_ the Stipe-Meister sort of flubs a line _(All I Have to Do Is)Dream_. But he often changes lyrics live and this was basically a live recording, so maybe it doesn't count? She.Rex (trying to get a jump on the game this time) (p.s. Re: people using someone else's style, anyone who has _Neil's Heavy Concept LP_ notice that he imitates Steve Hillage's version of Hurdy Gurdy Man (on _L_) rather than Donovan's? On the epi when he gets a job as a cop and has to bust his pal Warlock's party, he smashes a record, looks at it and says _Aw! Steve Hillage!_ The LP must've been _L_ because _Electrick Gypsies_ was playing till he broke it. Just a weenie observation.) - --------------------------- On the street people call you a foxy girl Me I'm loose, like a golden goose, You can have my juice Steady on soldier, Watch what you're doing to my girl Steady on soldier, Watch what you're doing to my girl Electric Slim and the Factory Hen, Man, they ain't my kind At dead of night, like a fiery kite, You've been on my mind Frozen feet on a winter street, Man that ain't your fate Greased in the Sun, California fun Man that's more my style - -- Marc Bolan, T.Rex, _Electric Slim and the Factory Hen_, _Tanx_ 1973 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:44:59 From: "she.rex" Subject: Re: Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets Eb wrote: > don't know who wrote it because a very kind soul has >>all my TC LP's this moment and is burning them to cd - YAY!!! (or should >>I say *whee*?) > >Not unless you add "(tm)" to the "whee." ;) > >Copyrighted Eb ;) > Yes, Sir! She.Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:17:32 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: ROO-FUSS Hello. I have finally procured a ticket to see Rufus Wainwright in Chicago. I've emailed the other fellow who posted on the list about it, but I would be very much appreciative if any other fegs who are going to this show on 3/27 in Chicago would email me and give me the scoop about a feg-gathering, and travel arrangements. Many thanks in advance. ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:34:50 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Sleater-Kinney (was Rat Tails, Didacts and Narpets) Eb: >Yep, Sleater-Kinney whipped the horse's ass. So are they, as often stated, the saviors of guitar rock? I've been tempted to buy their new album, but I'm wondering if there's anything there for this unreconstructed Pepperite. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:34:44 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Urgent Request! Michael R. Runion: >Anyone that could help me out with the Sessions tape will be forever in my >debt. A quick check of the schedule shows that it's pledge time again here in D/FW, which means large blocks of Roy Orbison, Red Green, and Styx! At least I won't be forever in debt to Mike. ;) - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:47:31 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Nilsson/Smith I heard recently of Elliot Smith covering Nilsson songs live. Has anyone any information to confirm or deny these rumours? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:07:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Potential LA feg-gathering!! ;) > From: squonkhead@aol.com (Squonkhead) > Newsgroups: rec.music.progressive > Subject: L.A. area Genesis tribute 3/28/99 > Date: 7 Mar 1999 06:27:54 GMT > > Los Angeles based Genesis cover band " The Supernatural Anaethetists" will > perform live with "Trilogy", an ELP tribute, at the Sunset in Sierra Madre on > Sunday March 28th. > > Come hear old favorites performed live! One complete set will be devoted >to the > best of The Lamb, recreated musically (not visually) as on the recently > released "Archives" box set. > > Other performances will include Watcher of the Skies, Firth of Fifth, Cinema > Show, One for the Vine, Dance on a Volcano/Los Endos and more. > > There will be a $5.00 charge at the door to cover expenses. For directions or > more information, contact Squonkhead@aol.com. > > See you there! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:27:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Late bulletin? A newsgroup post: "Wire services are reporting that country-western legend George Jones is currently on life support in a Nashville hospital following a single car accident near Franklin, TN. Jones is suffering from considerable internal bleeding, a punctured lung and a ruptured liver. Authorities say that Jones was talking on a cell-phone to his daughter at the time of the accident--his daughter apparently heard the crash over the cell-phone." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:44:50 -0800 From: Eb Subject: more FRANKLIN, Tenn. (AP) — Country singer George Jones was in critical condition Saturday after he smashed his sport-utility vehicle into a bridge near his home. Jones, 67, lost control of his vehicle while rounding a curve on Highway 96 and hit the bridge abutment, Tennessee Highway Patrol spokeswoman Dana Keeton said. It took rescuers about two hours to free him following the 1:30 p.m. accident, and he was taken by helicopter to Vanderbilt University Medical Center in nearby Nashville. Hospital spokesman Wayne Wood said Jones was being evaluated by doctors. He said he did not know if the injuries were life-threatening. Jones, famous for hits like ``He Stopped Loving Her Today'' and ``The Race is On,'' is generally considered one of the finest country singers ever. He was married for six years to the late singer Tammy Wynette. The pair were known as ``The King and Queen of Country Music'' in the 1970s. Since 1983, Jones has been married to Nancy Jones, his manager. Jones has battled alcoholism and drug abuse during much of his life. He was given the nickname ``No Show Jones'' for failing to appear at so many concerts and later recorded a song by that name. Jones was elected to the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1992. That same year, country fans and the media voted ``He Stopped Loving Her Today'' the most popular country song of all time. The 1980 weeper was about a man whose love for a woman died only when he did. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 17:11:44 -0000 From: "Angel Jones" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #83 Hello, Allow me to introduce myself. I'm a Hitchcock fan since 1988. Ah, I can remember clearly the first time I heard him. I was living in Seattle, working as an environmental activist. I was carpooling to our head office with my coworkers who were arguing over what to play on the cassette deck. Well.. to make a long story short, yes, it was the MAN. And the song was "Man w/ the Lightbulb Head." I have been slobberingly devoted ever since. Happy to make you alls acquaintance. Angel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 19:02:54 EST From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Partially Thawing My joints still aching from the chill, I can just about muster the dexterity to clawhammer out a few words to my warm-blooded fellow Fegs. Hello. There's a question at hand here, which may have been covered in my prolonged sabbatical. I hope you don't mind filling me in: Having secured my rather elusive copy of Storefront on vinyl yesterday, I'm curious if the LP version is completely or only partially different from the CD. Given that the movie is made up of a couple of days worth of shooting, I'm curious if the "added value" of the vinyl version is that we got the outtakes as well as the bonus tunes. These old rawk n' roll ears aren't hearing too good. The banter is different, are the tunes? Thank you for the warm hearth. It's nice to be back. Blinking On And Off, Jay Hedblade p.s. A long distance request found me playing "Glass Hotel" over fiber optics yesterday morning. Sometimes you just need to hear something... I was happy to oblige. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: all authors, all the time On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, she.rex wrote: > Doug wrote: [about snakes] > > Um, was this a dream? A movie? This time I just *had* to ask. no, just drab old reality. perhaps not quite as decadent as it sounded at first blush; he-who-is-known-by-the-three-G's lives in the basement with a corn snake and a something snake (they are both varieties of rat snake). he came up, with snakes, and we were all just sitting around the dining room table chatting; the snakes are quite friendly, but it's chilly, and they're drawn to warmth, which tends to make them burrow into shirts. - -- d. "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:04:56 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Welcome, Paul... On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Paul Christian Glenn wrote: > I like the simple stuff best. "Globe of Frogs" seems much less slick than > "Perspex Island", and I like that. On GOF, there really isn't a song that I > dislike. On PI, my faves are probably "She Doesn't Exist" and "If You Go Away". > > I've heard snippets of "Eye" (my buddy has a very sad "Eye" story, but I'll let > him tell it someday), and I *really* like that. Simpler, more accoustic > sounding - very cool. I think "Glass Hotel" is an terrific song. > > >From "Uncorrected Personality Traits" my favorite cuts would be "Linctus House" > (by far), "Raymond Chandler Evening", "Man With A Lightbulb Head", and "Queen > Elvis II". > > So, given all that data, what should I shoot for next? sounds like _Eye_ to me! perhaps followed by _element of light_. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 13:42:00 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: quick question anybody know exactly when roger got the sack? i don't see it in bayard's chronology. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 13:48:27 -0800 From: Eb Subject: MAJOR CALAMITY!! I'm hearing that Stanley Kubrick died??????????????? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 13:58:12 -0800 From: Eb Subject: NOT an Internet hoax alt.movies.kubrick has dozens and dozens of new posts about SK's death. Wow. I haven't found any detailed news stories about it yet. Eb, wincing to anticipate all the sick "Eyes Wide Shut" puns to come ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:09:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: a black day Film director Stanley Kubrick dies in Britain LONDON, March 7 (Reuters) - Stanley Kubrick, the acclaimed film director of ``2001: A Space Odyssey'' and ``A Clockwork Orange,'' died on Sunday at the age of 70. Police at St Albans, north of London, said they were notified of the death by a doctor who had been called to Kubrick's home. The police said they did not know the cause of death but there were no suspicious circumstances. ``He died today, unfortunately,'' a spokesman for Hertfordshire police said. ``The family has asked us to release the news of his death, to let people know.'' He said police had been contacted about the death ``as a matter of routine.'' He did not know whether there would be any post-mortem examination, and had no further details. Kubrick, a director, writer, and producer, was born in New York City in July 1928. He developed his camera eye working for the U.S. magazine Look, then a major outlet for creative photography. Switching to the cinema he made his first big mark in 1957 with ``Paths of Glory'' about a French army mutiny during World War One. The film was banned in France for many years. His fame grew with ``Spartacus,'' about a slave revolt against ancient Rome, ``Lolita,'' based on Vladimir Nabokov's scandalous novel, and 1964's ``Dr. Strangelove,'' which drew black comedy from the Cold War risk of accidental nuclear conflict. Many of his films showed an anti-establishment point of view. His most famous were ``2001: A Space Odyssey'' featuring the idea, novel in 1968, of a talking computer with twisted emotions, and his 1971 adaptation of Anthony Burgess's ``A Clockwork Orange,'' which Kubrick withdrew from distribution in Britain after it was said to have inspired copycat gang violence. In 1980 Kubrick made ``The Shining,'' a horror story, followed in 1987 by ``Full Metal Jacket'' about the Vietnam War. At the time of his death, his new film ``Eyes Wide Shut,'' starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, was being prepared for release in July. Kubrick was a recluse, and had not given an interview for over two decades. His death took film-makers and their critics by surprise. ``It's all so totally unexpected,'' Derek Malcolm, film critic for the Guardian newspaper, told Sky television. ``I think the whole film-making world will be very, very upset by this, because he was one of the great directors.'' Malcolm said Kubrick, a notorious perfectionist, still had not completed ``Eyes Wide Shut.'' ``It has taken ages to make, and he kept on changing it, and having more time for shooting it.'' ``Obviously Stanley was a great and talented film-maker. There are too few people like him,'' producer and director Bryan Forbes told Sky. ``I always thought his early films were his best,'' Forbes said. He said he had once been a close friend of Kubrick's but, partly because Kubrick had been so reclusive, ``I don't suppose I have even spoken or written to him for the past 15 years, which is sad.'' Last month it was reported that Kubrick was bringing a libel action against Punch magazine, claiming that an article about him last August was ``grossly defamatory'' as it questioned his sanity. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:15:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: just rambling, at this point Man, it was sad enough already that Gene Siskel didn't live to see Eyes Wide Shut released.... Wow. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:56:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: SK A good set of stories and information is at http://headlines.yahoo.com/FC/Entertainment/Stanley_Kubrick , including this nugget. :) - ---- Kubrick was known to control every aspect of his films down even to the pen color that could be used to circle advertisements. ``He was truly consumed with every aspect of production,'' Klady said. He was also known to be hard on his actors and one story that circulated from the set of his Vietnam War drama, ``Full Metal Jacket'' was that when he asked his actors who wanted to volunteer to die early in the movie, almost the entire cast raised their hands. One man who did volunteer and was selected to die early in the film found that he then had to lie around playing a corpse in the mud for three months. - ---- Also, try http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9903/07/kubrick.obit/ Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #84 ******************************