From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #81 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 5 1999 Volume 08 : Number 081 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: various disembodied answers and replies ["Thomas, Ferris" ] RE: various disembodied answers and replies [Ken Ostrander ] RE: various disembodied answers and replies [Eric Loehr ] RE: Walrus/Elliott [Eb ] Re: more mentions ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Dusty ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] RE: various disembodied answers and replies [Ross Overbury ] referencing a publishing company ["Russ Reynolds" ] RE: Walrus/Elliott [Eric Loehr ] H20 readings [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Am I evil? Yes I am! [Jon Fetter ] Up from the depths [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Bands who... [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] AV1/XTC/Bijou Phillips [Eb ] Re: more mentions [Insomnboy@aol.com] Re: referencing a publishing company [Insomnboy@aol.com] The People's Republic Of Santa Monica ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re:ketchup on recent things ( aussie bleeding rules - barf!) [dlang Subject: RE: various disembodied answers and replies Quoth Eb and others: >I can't remember the name of his band, but the film shows a video by them, and, boy, do they *suck*. The Mentors. The Mentors! Egad! Haven't heard that name in ages. I'm almost sure that's a good thing, too. Lennon's solo hit "Jealous Guy." I listened to the Lennon box set last week....I'm no officianato on the Walrus (he was the Walrus, wasn't he?) but that disc set is excellent. I hadn't seriously listened to his stuff in years. Anyway, boys and girls, I'm back. Not that I'd really gone anywhere, but I'm monitoring things a bit closer now. ___________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer (860) 409-2612 EPG New Media McGraw-Hill Technology Division Farmington, CT mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow/ n.p. Ray Davies 'Storyteller' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:53:24 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: "... on such a winter's day" >"Punk Rock Girl" > mentions Mojo Nixon. And the Beach Boys, to whom they erroneously attribute "California Dreaming." >> And didn't CSN have a song about Woodstock? Yeah, and it mentions one of my relatives! Max Yasgur, who owned the Woodstock farm, is/was a cousin or something of my uncle Sid Yasgur (who was also related to the guy who played Boss Hogg on "The Dukes of Hazzard," but that's another story). I can tell you're impressed... > Both are great artciles, and the Nick Drake would be >very interesting for all you songwriters out there. Not only that, but the picture accompanying the Drake article is *very* easy on the eyes. :) >Shakespear's Sister - named from the b-side of a certain Smiths single. Or else they were named for a bit from one of Virginia Woolf's essays ("A Room of One's Own," I believe) in which she speculates about the fate of Shakespeare's fictional sister. Or maybe the Smiths song was named for that - Morrissey's a well-read guy. n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:28:07 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: RE: various disembodied answers and replies > Lennon's solo hit "Jealous Guy." > >I listened to the Lennon box set last week....I'm no officianato on the >Walrus (he was the Walrus, wasn't he?) but that disc set is excellent. I >hadn't seriously listened to his stuff in years. funny thing, john wrote and sang 'i am the walrus'; so one would figure that john was the walrus. then the white album comes out and john sings on 'glass onion': "well here's another clue for you all: the walrus was paul". now, i think he was being tongue in cheek and was playing off the whole 'paul is dead' mystique for all it was worth; 'cause later, on the 20 rated album PLASTIC ONO BAND, john sang "i was the walrus, but now i'm john" in a moment of clarity on the superkeen vitriol of 'god'. wacky, weird, wild stuff. ken "goo goo ga joob" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:02:46 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "... on such a winter's day" On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > And the Beach Boys, to whom they erroneously attribute "California Dreaming." You know what's funny? I never noticed this before. > my uncle Sid Yasgur (who was also related to the guy who played Boss > Hogg on "The Dukes of Hazzard," but that's another story). I can tell > you're impressed... Oh, man. Who cares about Boss Hogg (besides luther the redneck)?!? Didn't you see Fail Safe? It's like a very serious Dr. Strangelove. He played this military fellow at Strategic Air Command. Damn, that's a fine film. > >Shakespear's Sister - named from the b-side of a certain Smiths single. > Or else they were named for a bit from one of Virginia Woolf's essays ("A > Room of One's Own," I believe) in which she speculates about the fate of > Shakespeare's fictional sister. Or maybe the Smiths song was named for > that - Morrissey's a well-read guy. I can see it going either way. Perhaps somebody admitted something? J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:09:51 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: RE: various disembodied answers and replies On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Ken Ostrander wrote: > funny thing, john wrote and sang 'i am the walrus'; so one would figure >that john was the walrus. then the white album comes out and john sings >on 'glass onion': "well here's another clue for you all: the walrus was >paul". now, i think he was being tongue in cheek and was playing off the >whole 'paul is dead' mystique for all it was worth; 'cause later, on the >20 rated album PLASTIC ONO BAND, john sang "i was the walrus, but now i'm >john" in a moment of clarity on the superkeen vitriol of 'god'. wacky, >weird, wild stuff. > > ken "goo goo ga joob" the kenster A minor quibble, and you may not have even meant it this way, so sorry if I'm putting words into your mouth, but John definitely didn't write Glass Onion with the "Paul is Dead" thingy in mind, because the hoax didn't get started until 1969, after Abbey Road came out (one of the major clues supposedly being Paul being the only one of the Beatles walking barefoot across Abbey Road), well after the white album came out (and the songs on it presumably written.) Phew -- that was a long sentence. Eric, O.P.D.(Officially Pronounced D'oh) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:36:29 -0800 From: Eb Subject: XTC chat live on the web at 4 pm PST http://chat01.asylum.com/studio-i/index_aol.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:53:22 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Walrus/Elliott >funny thing, john wrote and sang 'i am the walrus'; so one would figure >that john was the walrus. then the white album comes out and john sings >on 'glass onion': "well here's another clue for you all: the walrus was >paul". now, i think he was being tongue in cheek and was playing off the >whole 'paul is dead' mystique for all it was worth; 'cause later, on the >20 rated album PLASTIC ONO BAND, john sang "i was the walrus, but now i'm >john" in a moment of clarity on the superkeen vitriol of 'god'. And now, the Walrus is Craig Stadler.... - --------- I enjoyed Elliott Smith last night. The show didn't have the ephiphanous kick which his SNL appearance gave me, but that may be because: a) it was just so great seeing a "homegrown talent" as a SNL musical guest, instead of the usual megahyped MTV-image acts they almost exclusively showcase nowadays (last week's Lucinda Williams gig being another clear exception), b) Jon Brion wasn't playing keyboards with him (I wonder if there's a story behind this...there was even a piano onstage, which went untouched) c) the set was a little short (only about 50 minutes, including two encores) and d) um...BOY, that dude is a 10 on the ugly rockstar scale. ;) But otherwise, I enjoyed the show quite a bit. It didn't click with me until halfway through that the bassist was Sam from Quasi -- man, I KNEW that guy looked familiar! Heh. I don't know who the drummer was, but he also drummed with the opening act, a capable but uncompelling indie-pop trio called No. 2 (I know nothing of their catalog or history, beyond them also being from Portland). The weather outside was drizzly, which is probably the perfect climate for an Elliott Smith show, and the place was packed (he's playing two more local dates this week, as well). Despite the crowd, I didn't see ONE person all night whom I knew -- I don't know if this is because of the rain, because all the more "mature" fans were home watching Barbara suckle Monica or just because that show somehow didn't entice my usual club-going peers. Regardless, standing about 8-9 feet from the stage amidst the mob, all I could see were homely, greasy, blank-expressioned 18 and 19 year olds doubly depressed because they couldn't smoke their cigarettes inside. Anyway...the show was good. I can't give you the set list, but I was surprised that he played "Miss Misery" as an encore -- I was under the impression that he refused to play this live. He also played "Say Yes" as an encore, which is just a fantastic tune -- one of those melodies that's so effortlessly simple, you figure it MUST be stolen from somewhere else, but somehow it isn't. He also played another song I really liked, which didn't sound familiar. Maybe it was new, because right after that song, he announced that he would be playing some new material that night. I wish I had some way to find out the title -- I looked around me at the time, hoping to find a knowledgable-looking face, but all I saw were homely, greasy, blank-expressioned 18 and 19 year olds doubly depressed because they couldn't smoke their cigarettes inside (from here on, they will be known simply as HGBEEANYODDBTCSTCI). Oh, I know how Fgz love to hear about shirts...Elliott was wearing an ancient, faded *Commodores* world tour shirt. Go figger. EvenEb, currently on the web waiting for the XTC chat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:02:54 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: more mentions At 11:05 AM 3/4/99 -0500, Christopher Gross wrote: >"Where the Tarantula Lives" mentions Samantha Fox, Doris Day, and Donnie >and Marie. For some reason, the mention of Samantha Fox reminded me of that Mojo Nixon* song where he sings, "Debbie Gibson is pregnant, with my two headed love child." - --Jason, who would rather be stuffin' Martha Quinn's muffin Footnotes: * Mojo Nixon is the only rock/pop performer whom I've witnessed pissing into the sink of a public restroom. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:53:34 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: Dusty Haiku For Dusty Springfield (1939-1999) Thank you, Dusty, for making preacher's sons feel not quite so un-sexy. - --Dolph Chaney, 4 March 1999, 10:45am (c) 1999 Dolph Chaney. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:19:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: RE: various disembodied answers and replies On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Eric Loehr wrote: > Eric, O.P.D.(Officially Pronounced D'oh) Y'all know that's a regulation Ontario Provincial Police crest sported by Paul, eh? The O.P.P. tactical squad are the ones Toronto calls on just before the army when they find snow on their Volvos. - -- frozen guy in Montreal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:31:13 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: Re: kill this thread it was said: >Shakespear's Sister - named from the b-side of a certain Smiths single. is this in fact true? i had always assumed that both were named for virginia woolf's hypothetical example of what would have happened to shakespeare's sister, who also wanted to be a writer. . . from a room of one's own, maybe? dunno, tom FREE music: http://www.mp3.com/tlr3 ************************************************************************ *++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------- data collection at 3/5s!* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:37:09 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: referencing a publishing company >Two that I know of make deliberate mention of the publishing company or label: >"Only a Northern Song" (Beatles) >"Island" (Gerry Rafferty) Score another half point for George Harrison for mentioning a different publishing company in the wonderfully penned "This Song." "This Song...has nothing BRIGHT about it" (A reference to the Publishers of "He's So Fine"). I think maybe John Fogerty mentions his former publisher in one of his tunes too. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:00:03 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: FZ referencing others >How about this, there's a Zappa song where he mentions how Warner Bros. >sucks. Ten fegPoints to whomever can name it. >Speaking of Frank, somewhere on 200 Motels he mentions a pair of tennis >shoes he got from Jeff Beck. "Bands referenced by FZ" could be even lengthier than "songs by women." Vanilla Fudge,Toto,Three Dog Night & Robert Planet spring to mind immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: RE: Walrus/Elliott On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > > Oh, I know how Fgz love to hear about shirts...Elliott was wearing an > ancient, faded *Commodores* world tour shirt. Go figger. > (this one's for qrys) Did he play Brick House? (Sorry for those of you who haven't visited cyberspace hitchcock) Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:11:19 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: H20 readings >You really can't go wrong with a Robyn Hitchcock album. I always have a >hard time deciding which one is my favorite, because each album has its >own unique sound that I love. And for this reason, I'm gonna recommend >Invisible Hitchcock. It's a compilation of some of the songs that Robyn >had recorded in the early 80's but were just laying around somewhere. >The result is an incredible journey through the many things Robyn can >be. Because of this, it doesn't stick together as well as other albums >like Eye or Element of Light. But it still contains some of the >grooviest songs ever recorded (that is my humble opinion, of course). I >can't think of anything that makes me feel as smooth and nice (poor >adjectives, I know) as A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of >Wine. > >Anyway, welcome to the list, Paul. Hope you enjoy yourself and get >turned on to some great music. I sure as hell have. > >Later >Joel > >P.S. Can anyone replace the aforementioned poor adjectives with >something better? I can never describe what I feel when I hear that >song, but it has something to do with smoothness. sure Joel... You really can't go floppy with a Robyn Hitchcock album. I always have a seaworthy time deciding which one is my favorite, because each album has its own juggling sound that I love. And for this reason, I'm gonna recommend Squelchy Hitchcock. It's a compilation of some of the songs that Robyn had recorded in the early 80's but were just laying around somewhere. The result is a tracheal journey through the many things Robyn can be. Because of this, it doesn't stick together as well as other albums like Eye or Element of Light. But it still contains some of the most wombat-pummeling songs ever recorded (that is my streaky opinion, of course). I can't think of anything that makes me feel as transcendent and libidinous (granitic adjectives, I know) as A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Strangled Cardboard Bottle of Wine. Anyway, welcome to the list, Paul. Hope you enjoy yourself and get turned on to some tendrilled music. I sure as hell have. Welcome,Paul. Try I Often Dream of Trains(did anyone mention Respect?) James PS - first Randi, now Beth Orton. Damn that damnedly damnable Crohn's disease! PPS - Here's a weird one... my girlfriend told me that a few years back she suffered from a high fever, and during it she had a hallucination that the wallpaper turned into daisies that spelt out the word "Toast". Need I say more??? James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:21:27 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Am I evil? Yes I am! >PPPS: Does anybody know, was PRIMUS named after the supreme ruler of the >Lawful Neutral Modrons? I thought they wre namedafter a Scandanavian camping stove company. A truly EVIL thread. Jon __________________________________________________________________ "And there went forth a wind from the Lord, and brought quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth. And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: and he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. And he called the name of that place Kibroth-hattaavah, because there they buried the people that lusted." -- Numbers 11. 31-34 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:52:29 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Up from the depths >"Air Crash Museum" mentions Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, Ricky Nelson, >Patsy Kline, and Jim Croce. "The Thing That Only Eats Hippies" consumes >the Dead and Crosby, Stills and Nash. "50 Things" mentions Black Flag. Agh! How could I forget a New Zealand classic?!: Brian Jones Keith Moon Marc Bolan Jimi Hendrix [1] lying at the bottom of your swimming pool Don't let Cream Rolling Stone Rip It Up New Musical Express call you a fool 'cause I really care... "Swimming Pool", by Toy Love (an early Chris Knox band) Or what about this: Bands that are named after another band's song?!?! sigh. FWIW, Dunedin's own Sneaky Feelings, Mystery Dance and Bone Orchard ALL chose names from Elvis Costello songs... And Dunedin alkso produced Netherworld Dancing Toys (a line from, IIRC, Roxy Music). If a city this size produced four, then there muust be a million of 'em out there. NZ's best known was probably MiSex, named after an Ultravox song. >Oh... and my favorite lyrics to any Higsons song: >Ylang Ylang isn't that the backing vocals of "He's so fine"? :) James [p1] I may have these names in the wrong order ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:15:48 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Bands who... >*Bands That Mention Other Bands (sounds like a Fox special): is this a good time to mention that I'm working on a song which has a rhythm formed by me repeating the words "Gary Puckett and the Union Gap" over and over? James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:54:26 -0800 From: Eb Subject: AV1/XTC/Bijou Phillips You know, I must admit that "River of Orchids" is growing on me a bit. I still think it's more "impressive" or "interesting" than "great," but it's an unusual, accomplished piece of work. I was listening on headphones tonight, and finding it intriguing that the harmony vocal is essential atonal and spoken. Quite daring. However, the lightweight songs are still making me like AV1 less than a few other XTC albums. "I'd Like That," "Knights in Shining Karma," both Colin tunes...all kinda fey and fluffy. Plus, there's the tedious "Last Balloon," and the crass lyric of "Your Dictionary." Any album where I have misgivings about six out of 11 tracks is far from a masterpiece. So anyway, I'm still sticking to the 16/20 Ebrating, but my feelings are evolving and changing a bit. Eb, kinda figuring he'll go to the XTC album signing tomorrow, but not much looking forward to it (hmm...maybe I'll take notes for an unrelated review assignment while waiting in line with my Walkman?) PS Was yesterday the busiest day of Fegposts EVER? Maybe not, but probably the busiest that I'VE seen.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:22:59 EST From: Insomnboy@aol.com Subject: Re: more mentions In a message dated 3/4/99 8:06:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu writes: > Dr. Know's "Fist Fuck" mentions El Duce; although I've never heard > anything by him, I gather he was some sort of major figure in the > early-80s LA punk scene. The same song may also mention other bands, but > I forget. They also refer to something known as the Crass Ranch; perhaps > an anarchist commune named after the band? El Duce was the frontman for the notorious Mentors. The closest they came to "success" was having some of their lyrics read at the infamous Senate/PMRC hearings in 1986. El Duce was pretty ubiquitous around the LA music scene for about ten years, I ran into him at many shows, and it seemed like every one I knew when I worked at Aron's Records in Hollywood had an El Duce story to tell. El Duce was killed while walking on some train tracks by, you guessed it, a train, in 1997. Speaking of bands that sing about other bands, we can't forget: "Sammy Hagar Weekend" by Thelonious Monster. >And of course special mention must be made of Monty Python's "Decomposing >Composers." Also don't forget that Monty Python supplied Toad The Wet Sprocket with their moniker. Russell in Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:19:15 EST From: Insomnboy@aol.com Subject: Re: referencing a publishing company In a message dated 3/4/99 6:39:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, rcreation@earthlink.net writes: > I think maybe John Fogerty mentions his former publisher > in one of his tunes too. > "Zanz Can't Dance" from the "Centerfield" LP. "Zanz" got changed to "Vanz" (on sleeves & labels at least, I don't think Fogerty changed the actual vocals) after Saul Zaentz (sp?) threatened legal action. Russell in LA (who now realizes he was a tad late with the Mentors comment, oh well) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 02:15:35 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: The People's Republic Of Santa Monica fucking FINALLY got my hands on a copy of More Songs About Churches And Fish!!! i'm in heaven, friends. (and now chris f. can quit worrying about me pinching *his* copy...) hey, the oldest newspaper in the country wants to reprint the article i wrote about the Anderson Valley Advertiser. pretty cool, i guess. quail, you make me sad. how could *you*, of all people, fail to mention the queensryche trifecta? their first recording is self-titled. and the first song on that first recording (at least) derives from the name of the band. additionally, since the quail digs this thread (and despite him having made me sad) it's officially, in my mind, a cool thread, no matter how sick of it the rest of y'all are (and no matter how much of a dick i'm being for appeasing the quail and the quail only.) therefore, i will type some more. mojo nixon has been mentioned more times this one day than i think in the whole time i've been reading this list. however, my favorite self-referencing song has *not*, to my knowledge been mentioned, so i will quote from it at length (as follows): "You know, one morning I woke up from a nice night of sleepin'. I woke up and I said to myself: 'Mojo! Mojo, you cannot judge a Foo Foo by his haircut. Can't judge a book by its cover. Can't decide, you know, a person's bad or good just because he's got one of those big poofter haircuts stickin' up! Mojo, there might be a great cosmic kid inside one of them people. One of them people with all dressed in black, and lookin' like they're gonna die and everything -- they're just regular folks like me and you. Them heavy metal guys -- they're regular folks like me and you.' So, man, for justice, for peace, fraternity, equality; I decided that I, Mojo Nixon, was gonna get a Foo Foo haircut. That's right! In the war between the rockers and the poofters god dangit." also, the last song on the squirrel's *brilliant* WHAT GIVES? (which was actually left on an answering machine) has this most excellent of verses: "Just got back from Montana Collected a killer full-page hometown review Sold out show at Second Story Cinema For me and Jimmy, and Jed, too And we sold five Sqirrels albums 'cause that was all we brought And Roger and me brought the house down real good (goodbye Roger)" yes, i *would have* mentioned Weseley Willis Fiasco by wesley willis, but eb beat me to it. more: Dead Cops and Dead Cops Rock (and i'm sure many others by mdc that mention dead cops), Minor Threat by minor threat, Dirty World by the traveling wilburys, Ballerina (kind of), and Talkin' Woody Bruce Dan & Bob Blues by dan bern (and he talks about his "act" in Talkin' Alien Abduction Blues and Talkin' Goin' To Mars Lookin' For Steady Work Blues ("Just play something from the record.")), Beginning Of A Great Adventure by lou reed (and does he mention himself in My House? can't remember), Velvet Nursery Rhyme by the velvets. and if Ziggy Stardust counts, then so does Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (although i don't think Ziggy Stardust should count, because, unless i've been horribly horribly mistaken about this all these years, ziggy himself isn't narrating the song. it's one of the spiders, isn't it?) and Glass Onion has been talked about, but not, i don't think, in the capacity of songs mentioning other song(s) by the same artist. as for songs actually *incorporating* other song(s) by the same artist, the only one i can think of right now is Detroit Rock City. but the absolute, all-time coolest, has got to be in Raising Arizona when h.i. is in the supermarket buying diapers, and a muzaked version of the movie's theme song is playing over the pa. now, the thing that got this whole thread rollin' (although, eb, you're smokin' too much of something if you think this week has been anywhere *near* the busiest time on feg. just go back a few weeks ago, if you like. even better, go back to your most recent (i think) grateful dead "discussion") was capuch'n's definition of popular music as music that is popular. funny thing, i've always thought of "pop" as more of a genre (broadly stated, i guess, sounding something like the beatles.) i mean, i'd call robyn "pop," even though he's not popular. and i wouldn't call whitney houston "pop," even though she is popular. so. i'd be interested in knowing when and under what circumstances the term entered into the vernacular. susie? oh my god. ME FUCKING TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in fact, i think i've even mentioned on the list before now that i've given serious consideration to moving to australia and becoming an aussie rules football referee. commander lang (commander lang is Feg X, by the way. no doubt about that), how difficult would it be? is the waiting list miles and miles long? apparently Dr. Strangelove originally *was* supposed to be "very serious." but kubrick couldn't figure out how to make the material (it's based on the novel Red Alert, by terry southern, if memory serves) work as a serious movie, so he decided to make the ultimate black comedy instead. and until Delicatessen came along, i'd say Dr. Strangelove probably was the ultimate black comedy. but it's not anymore. first he wins dignan's trivia contest, and now this. and *this* from the guy who was asking *me* how i found stuff in the archives! sheesh! caroline was asking about sleater-kinney tour dates. , for all your live sleater-kinney needs. or at least a whole fucking bunch of them. http://leb.net/iac/ "As we often see in US foreign policy, other nations' attempts to defend themselves from US attacks are defined as aggression." --Jake Sexton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:59:00 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re: supermodel bait ( wrong url ) In my efforts to blame all the evil plots in the universe on poor old King Bee EFE I sent the wrong Url for the Abandoned Brain. it should be a capital R in robyn , not lower case, so if you go to http://210.8.25.3/sharkfiles/Robyn.html you should be able to access the dire contents within. dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:08:33 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re:ketchup on recent things ( aussie bleeding rules - barf!) Poor Dolh wrote >The simple mention of Australian rules football by Mark the other day has >made me happy. They have the BEST referees. Sometimes, I like to dress all >in white and give the signals for a goal all day long. stone me Dolph, you have got it bad, I agreee the refs are quite cool, but thats the only part of the game I can bear to watch, if you like I'll send you tapes of the games with all the playing bits edited out and you can watch the refs to your hearts content. I you want you can have the whole AFL , I won't miss the bastards one bit , its practically the only thing on the tv and radio in the winter and it drives me up the bleeding wall. . . dave (who cant wait for the cricket season to come round again ) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #81 ******************************