From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #80 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 08 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more mentions [Christopher Gross ] general replies (0 RH level) ["Tony Blackman"] Re: self-reference [Michael R Godwin ] short irrelevant thoughts [Thomas Rodebaugh ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: more mentions [Michael R Godwin ] Re: more mentions ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Re: more mentions ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: oh gawd [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 [Michael R Godwin ] Re: more mentions [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: more mentions ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Recycled titles [Michael R Godwin ] Am I evil? Yes I am! [The Great Quail ] Re: ketchup on recent things [amadain ] Damn You Mike Godwin! [Tom Clark ] Re: rock-weenie/Eb [Joel Mullins ] Re: Recycled titles [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Celebrity Death part 5000 [Eric Loehr ] MOJO [Joel Mullins ] unchecked weeniesm, part 9008 [dmw ] Kill this thread. [Capuchin ] various disembodied answers and replies [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: more mentions Apologies in advance if I duplicate bands from anyone else's list. Our mail server is acting very erratic these days, and I expect to still be receiving yesterday's FegMail until about next Wednesday. *Bands That Mention Themselves: The Quail said "Black 47 name checks themselves in a song I can't remember"; that would be "Rockin' the Bronx." (One of their worst songs, actually, but there ya go.) Russ, I think, asked if Black 47 had found success. I dunno about that, but I know they have at least one more album (called _Prague_!), and they're still together as a band. In fact they're playing DC shortly after St. Paddy's Day. The Revolting Cocks song "Linger Ficken' Good" mentions not only the band's name but each member's name as well. *Bands That Mention Other Bands (sounds like a Fox special): Sonic Youth's "Screaming Skull" namechecks a bunch o' bands: Superchunk, the Lemonheads, and others I can't think of right now. Dr. Know's "Fist Fuck" mentions El Duce; although I've never heard anything by him, I gather he was some sort of major figure in the early-80s LA punk scene. The same song may also mention other bands, but I forget. They also refer to something known as the Crass Ranch; perhaps an anarchist commune named after the band? Then there's "David Bowie," by Phish, which mentions UB40 as well as David Bowie. (Indeed, those two names are the only lyrics the song has.) In "American Heavy Metal Weekend," the Circle Jerks mention a whole raft of 80s metal bands, including Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, and Twisted Sister, dude. As Jeme already mentioned, the "oh, baby, look at you, don't you look like Siouxsie Sioux?" song was "You'll Dance to Anything" by the Dead Milkmen. The same song also mentions The Smiths, The Communards, Book of Love, PIL, Naked Truth, and of course Day-Pesh-ka Mode. Dear lord, the Dead Milkmen.... I played some albums and looked at some lyrics sheets before work this morning. In "Sri Lanka Sex Hotel" they mention Big Black and Hendrix. In "Smoking Banana Peels" it's Elvis. "Going to Graceland," of course, also mentions Elvis. "Punk Rock Girl" mentions Mojo Nixon. "Moron" mentions Depeche Mode (as Jeme pointed out). "Air Crash Museum" mentions Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, Ricky Nelson, Patsy Kline, and Jim Croce. "The Thing That Only Eats Hippies" consumes the Dead and Crosby, Stills and Nash. "50 Things" mentions Black Flag. "Where the Tarantula Lives" mentions Samantha Fox, Doris Day, and Donnie and Marie. "They Call Me the Walrus" mentions Nancy Sinatra. "Big Sleazy" mentions the Dead, the Beatles and the Doobie Brothers. "Now Everybody's Me" mentions Edie Brickell and Charles Manson (yes, he counts). "In Praise of Sha Na Na" mentions SNN, Santana, the Who, and maybe other acts that played at Woodstock, as well as the Stones. "Anderson, Walkman, Buttholes and How!" mentions Yes and sort of mentions Anderson Wakeman Bruford and Howe. "Bitchin' Camaro" mentions the Doors - -- or rather, the Milkmen talk about a Doors cover band in the spoken-word intro to the song. And I'm sure there are plenty more that I missed. I haven't heard it, but Leonard Cohen has a song called (or at least about) "Sisters of Mercy," from which the band the Sisters of Mercy took their name. Can we count unwitting mentions of bands formed after the song was written? Eh, why not.... Who was that classic rock band that had a whole song recapping the Monterey Pop Festival? And didn't CSN have a song about Woodstock? And of course special mention must be made of Monty Python's "Decomposing Composers." - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:08:07 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: general replies (0 RH level) Surfer Ghost said; <<.............. house of love sang about themselves on "shine on">> Err, spookey, I only just heard "Shine On" yesterday morning on the local Oxford radio station on the way to work. I hadn't heard it for years, I'll have to do and drag out the vinyl tonight. James mentioned; <Did Yes ever write a song containing the word "Yes"? there's one on Drama that says "The answer to the question is Yes" (ask a silly question...) >"We had a party three years later; Clean Steve wore a robe. He brought a >new Nick Lowe cassette...">> As soon as I read those paragraphs in order, I immediately thought of Nick Lowe's B-side while on Stiff called "I Love My Label", but as I write this I've now got the feeling it wasn't lowe but Dave Edmunds. Bollocks! Someone put me out of my misery.... Mike...? James...? Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:08:51 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: self-reference I just saw that Eb got to 'Bo Diddley' by Bo Diddley before me. So either I have to change it to 'Bo Diddley is a gunslinger' (which is an album title and possibly not a song) or I have to come up with something else. How about 'Hey hey we're the Monkees'? Is it actually called that, or is it called 'Monkees Theme' or something? Great tune, anyway, though not as good as "(I'm not your) stepping stone". Obligatory Blue Oyster Cult entry: on 'Imaginos', 'The subhuman' is rearranged and retitled as 'Blue Oyster Cult'. - - MRG "If it doesn't show, think you'd better know, I'm another person" (thanks Russ, you've got me at it now... bong bing bong bing) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: short irrelevant thoughts 1. if you have a stereo with those loudness-by-frequency indicators (whatever they're called) that bounce up and down--i noticed that the solo at the end of "i'm only you" on storefront hitchcock produces interesting effects. a friend notes that it would be especially interesting under the influence of certain drugs, but i wouldn't know about that. 2. is it just me, or does the voice at the end of "the lonesome death of ian penman" sound like a dalek? 3. people keep comparing robyn to monty python. anyone know if he's ever mentioned listening to the goon show (spike milligan, peter sellers)? robyn would have been a little boy when they were first on, but i imagine there were repeats to listen to, as well. . . 4. as far as album recommendations, i was addicted to queen elvis for a long time. that and underwater moonlight probably have gotten the most mileage. . . although if jon brion does as well with robyn as he does for aimee mann, maybe jewels for sophia will be a new winner in that dept. the truth is not there, tom FREE music: http://www.mp3.com/tlr3 ************************************************************************ *++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------- data collection at 3/5s!* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:27:49 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 >Soon, however, the place will be brimming with talk about Robyn Hitchcock's >new album. What to you think the odds are that reviews will be as >overwhelmingly positive as those of the new XTC have been on Chalkhills? Very, very unlikely. I hope. Re. references to other artists in songs (again), howsabout "The Yip Song"? Vera Lynn, the forces' sweetheart - she was a singer, right? And Alan Breeze, the "crooner" (Robyn's word) in "Wax Doll." I guess that's getting kind of obscure, though. n. p.s. Last night I managed to fascinate an entire roomful of people with my Robyn floating tomato pen. I even got dubbed "our lady of mystic tomatoes." Of course, all credit must go to Robyn and his team of Danish craftsmen. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:31:57 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: more mentions On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Christopher Gross wrote: > "Air Crash Museum" mentions Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, Ricky Nelson, > Patsy Kline, and Jim Croce. Great list, Chris! Eddie Cochran's 'Three stars' mentions Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens. > Who was that classic rock band that had a whole song recapping the > Monterey Pop Festival? And didn't CSN have a song about Woodstock? Eric Burdon and the New Animals had a song called 'Monterey' ('The Grateful Dead blew everybody's minds, yeah'). Are you talking about the Joni Mitchell Woodstock song ('We are stardust, we are golden') or is this another one? - - Mike Godwin PS On record companies, my favourite is Graham Parker and the Rumour's vicious 'Mercury Poisoning'. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:36:06 -0600 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: more mentions >Dr. Know's "Fist Fuck" mentions El Duce; although I've never heard >anything by him, I gather he was some sort of major figure in the >early-80s LA punk scene. El Duce appears in the film "Kurt & Courtney", a documentary about Kurt Cobain & Courtney Love and the rise and fall of Nirvana. I can't remember the name of his band, but the film shows a video by them, and, boy, do they *suck*. El Duce claims in the film that Courtney Love offered to pay him $50,000 to kill Kurt Cobain. El Duce was killed by a train during the filming of "Kurt of Courtney". Paul Christian Glenn cirhsein@firinn.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:07:45 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: more mentions At 10:36 AM 3/4/99 -0600, Paul Christian Glenn wrote: >El Duce claims in the film that Courtney Love offered to pay him $50,000 to kill >Kurt Cobain. El Duce was killed by a train during the filming of "Kurt of >Courtney". As fucking horrible and callous as this sounds, I just heard Nelson from "The Simpsons" go "ha ha" in my head. - --Jason, feeling very hallucinogenicly Ally McBeal this morning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:06:30 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: oh gawd In a message dated 3/3/99 7:43:53 PM, digja611@student.otago.ac.nz writes: << Brian Eno "saw the lovers, the Modern Lovers, and they looked very good" (or is it that that band, like A Certain Ratio, got their name from the song?) >> I've often wondered this. The Modern Lovers were around at that time (1974), but their debut album had not yet been released. Or maybe the whole thing is a coincidence? Hmmm. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:26:24 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Re. references to other artists in songs (again), howsabout "The Yip Song"? > Vera Lynn, the forces' sweetheart - she was a singer, right? Still is - she turns up at D-Day reunions and the like. I assume she can still quaver out 'We'll meet again' and 'White cliffs of Dover'. > And Alan > Breeze, the "crooner" (Robyn's word) in "Wax Doll." I guess that's getting > kind of obscure, though. Well, Alan Breeze was the featured singer with the Billy Cotton Band Show a long, long time ago. And if Robyn knows that, he knows about the Goons! - - Mike Godwin PS to Tony: Yes, 'I love my label' is Nick, not Dave. But it isn't as good as 'Shake and Pop / They Call it Rock': Hey listen(?) it's a rock'n'roll romance CBS are gonna give a great big advance Hey Atlantic come on and take a chance Arista say they love it but the kids can't dance to it They cut another record, it never was a hit And someone in the newspapers said it was shit The drummer is a bookie, the singer is a whore The bass-player's sorry 'cos they never won the war (?) Shake and Pop / They call it rock etc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:16:38 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: more mentions In a message dated 3/4/99 9:10:45 AM, jthornton@ucsd.edu writes: << As fucking horrible and callous as this sounds, I just heard Nelson from "The Simpsons" go "ha ha" in my head. - --Jason, feeling very hallucinogenicly Ally McBeal this morning >> Jason likes Fo-hox, Jason likes Fo-hox, neener, neener, neener. Okay, I watch both of those shows, too. Is it just me, or has Ally's condition gotten scary lately? Man, she needs to get rid of Tracy, go see a psychiatrist, and get herself some Haldol. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:37:33 -0600 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: more mentions >As fucking horrible and callous as this sounds, I just heard Nelson from >"The Simpsons" go "ha ha" in my head. I wouldn't feel too awful about hearing that "ha ha" in your head. The song featured in the "Kurt & Courtney" was about, well, basically, the joys of rape. I don't think the world is any worse for having lost El Duce. Paul Christian Glenn cirhsein@firinn.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:36:37 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Recycled titles 'Shake and pop' / 'They call it rock', which I was going on about in a preceding post, is a case of two songs with the same words but a different chorus / title. How many of these can you think of? The only other one that springs instantly to mind is Eddie Cochran's 'C'mon everybody' and 'Let's get together'. I haven't heard LGT for years, but it's identical to 'C'mon everybody' except he says 'Ooh, let's get together' instead of 'Ooh, c'mon everybody'. - - MRG PS Eddie also recycles the couplet 'There'll be no more movies for a week or two, no more hanging round with the usual crew' in the excellent 'Nervous breakdown', making three songs in all which include those lines. Interesting! ... ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 99 13:06:23 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Am I evil? Yes I am! Heh heh . . . ah, to sit back and relax, my face alight with the monitor glow of hundreds of rock weenie posts about bands than mention bands that mention themselves in an eponymous song. . . . this thread is giving me a certain masochistic pleasure I have not experienced since the last time I began the song "101 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" on a roadtrip and felt COMPELLED to finish. He Who Liketh the Unclean Squid writes: >I haven't heard it, but Leonard Cohen has a song called (or at least >about) "Sisters of Mercy," from which the band the Sisters of Mercy took >their name. Can we count unwitting mentions of bands formed after the >song was written? Eh, why not.... Or what about this: Bands that are named after another band's song?!?! 1. Sisters of Mercy -- from the Leonard Cohen song of the same name. 2. Judas Priest -- from Dylan's "The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest." 3. Radiohead -- from the Talking Head's song, "Radiohead." 4. Oasis -- from the Beatles' "What's the Story Morning Glory." 5. Tangerine Dream -- From the Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds." 6. Bad Brains -- from the Ramones song. 7. fIREHOSE -- from Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues." (Or at least, from the placard that Dylan held in the video.) 8. Squeeze -- from the VU's little-known final album. 9. The Waterboys -- from Lou Reed's song, "The Kids" on Berlin. 10. Motorhead -- from Hawkwind's song, "Motorhead." 11. Heaven 17 -- from, er, Heaven 17. The fictional band that hadn't been formed yet. Or, wait -- will the Heaven 17 of Clockwork Orange's future *name* themselves Heaven 17 after the 80s band? Oh, my head. . . . Go ahead, post some more. You know you wanna . . . and it feels deliciously dirty, too. . . . - --Quail PS: See, Eb, this is *real* rock criticism, not that wordy stuff you do! PPS: Soft Machine, the Soft Boys, Steely Dan. . . . you know the connection! PPPS: Does anybody know, was PRIMUS named after the supreme ruler of the Lawful Neutral Modrons? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:29:53 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: ketchup on recent things >following up gnat's improbable reference to the Beastie Boys, these lines >from "Sure Shot": >"I'm like Lee Perry, I'm very... on / rock the microphone, and then I'm >gone!" Heh. Reminds me a bit of.....well, perhaps this could be a NEW weenie thread. Artists -imitating- other artists. The reason I say this is because one of the albums I picked up in Angleland was "The Philosophy of Momus", which has a dub track called "The Madness of Lee Scratch Perry". It is an amazing bit of mimicry. If I had heard it randomly somewhere I certainly would not have known it was a Momus song. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:41:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Damn You Mike Godwin! After reading James': >On 3/3/99 7:41 PM, James Dignan wrote: > >>Two that I know of make deliberate mention of the publishing company or >>label: >>"Only a Northern Song" (Beatles) >>"Island" (Gerry Rafferty) I composed an eloquent (natch) response which included both Graham Parker's "Mercury Poisoning" and Nick Lowe's "The Call It Rock", only to have hssmrg trump me on both! How about this, there's a Zappa song where he mentions how Warner Bros. sucks. Ten fegPoints to whomever can name it. Speaking of Frank, somewhere on 200 Motels he mentions a pair of tennis shoes he got from Jeff Beck. enough already, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:55:02 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: rock-weenie/Eb Russ Reynolds wrote: > Leppo & The Jooves, we've been told, were an actual band as well That sucks. I've always wanted to use that for one of my bands someday. Oh well. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:07:42 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Recycled titles In a message dated 99-03-04 12:40:44 EST, you write: << 'Shake and pop' / 'They call it rock', which I was going on about in a preceding post, is a case of two songs with the same words but a different chorus / title. How many of these can you think of? >> Well, this is probably cheating, but the only one that immediately springs to mind is the Beach Boys' "Hang Onto Your Ego," which then evolved into "I Know There's an Answer." Oh, and I just thought of one for Susan's post about artists imitating other artists (and also involves the Beach Boys). The Beatles' "Back in the U.S.S.R.," which pays homage to (?) "California Girls." - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:15:05 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Celebrity Death part 5000 On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Seriously, though, if Eb is really collecting a list of definitive female > performances, there are stacks of great interpretations by Dusty ('Wishing > and hoping', 'Going back', 'I just don't know what to do with myself', > 'You don't have to say you love me', Son of a preacher man' etc etc) > > PS Re those band self-mentions, don't forget: > 'We are the Moles' by the Moles > 'Bo Diddley' by Bo Diddley > and on the T Rex front, one of the songs on the wondrous Jilted John > album mentions T Rex (probably 'Baz's Party'). > My entry for both categories (yes, once again, it's a dessert topping and a floor wax) is the Roches' We We are Maggie and Terre and Suzzy Maggie and Terre and Suzzy Roche we don't give out our ages and we don't give out our phone numbers give out our phone numbers sometimes our voices give out but not our ages and our phone numbers (Sorry about the extra lines -- I just included 'em because I like 'em. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:18:09 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: MOJO Has anyone seen the latest issue of MOJO? It has two great articles in it. One, an article on Nick Drake, and two, an excerpt from John Cale's autobiography. Both are great artciles, and the Nick Drake would be very interesting for all you songwriters out there. The lady who wrote the article is a songwriter and she talks in detail about the way Nick wrote songs. For example, she noticed that while the melody in most songs begin on the first or second beat, the melody in a lot of Nick's songs begin on the third beat. I never noticed this before. Anyway, the article gave me a lot of ideas for things to try musically. I'd recommend the article to all songwriters. - --Joel np. John Cale - The Island Years ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: unchecked weeniesm, part 9008 obligatory boc self-reference two: "let go" from the mostly forgettable _revolution by night_ (aldo nova as guest star = bad idea) which was co written by ian hunter...(ex t.rex-checkin' mott the hoople mainman) ...whose "standing in my light" namechecks he-who-would-become buster poindexter ("ain't gonna trade with the daddy of the new york dolls") ...i can't exactly tie xtc's sneery early "she's so square" to anything, but, hey, we've got lots of xtc talk round here lately, and i bet it's the only song to mention "screaming lord sutch." ...i wrote a song called "we're they might be giants," but i never troubled to learn to play it properly, and the current band is really down on the sillier side of my songwriting. they don't even like "dabney coleman loves me," although audiences always seem to dig it. (i was really annoyed when rhitchcock started playing the "gene hackman" song; mine came first, dammnit.) in general i prefer these threads when they're bounded by some sort of quality guideline, but just to be obnoxious, i'd love to hear of a song (not specifically written for the ocassion) that namechecks as many novelists as amy rigby's (sadly unrecorded as yet) "faulkner's maalox," or indeed any other pop song that mentions "margaret drabble" at all. i'm gonna write a song about my unrequited love for jane austen, of course, but that won't count either. - -- d. p.s. lord's "his ND [no depression] world" ups the ante even further. p.p.s. hey, how about a list of all the songs that mention the title of the song somewhere in the song? & how about a list of all the songs that don't mention the title of the song somewhere in the song? send them all to me privately at gondola@deltanet.com, or whatever. ;-b n.p. varnaline "a shot and a beer" yeah... "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Kill this thread. OK. Here's some stuff I found: A Flock of Seagulls - a line from the Stranglers' song "Toiler on the Sea". Bangles - originally call the Bangs, then changed it to the Electric Prune's song of the same name. Barracudas - After the Standell's song 'Barracuda'. Michael Jackson - From the subtle combination of his family name, Jackson, plus the christian name given to him by his parents at the time of his birth, Michael. Johnny Hates Jazz - taken from the Frank Sinatra song of the same name Lovin' Spoonful - Taken from Mississippi John Hurt's blues number, Coffee Song: " I love my baby by the lovin' spoonful." Madness - Title of old ska hit by the band's hero Prince Buster. Matchbox - after a Carl Perkins track Mr.Big - after a song (by Free ?) with the same name which they also cover on their last album "Bump Ahead". Negativland - The proper spelling for the band Negativland is without the 'e'. Their name was lifted from the Neu album BLACK FOREST GATEAU. On that album one can find tracks named "Negativland" and "Seeland." The first one is obviously the band name, and the second is the name of the band's record label Rolling Stones - From the Muddy Waters blues song, Rolling Stone. The Selecter - the name of the first song by the Specials that they tried to sell to record companies without success. It later ended up on the b-side of the first single. Sepultura - Portuguese for Grave. Early choices for names for this Brazilian band were Tropa De Choque (roughly, riot police or shock troops), and Veneno (venom). Igor Cavalera (drums) "this is way back in '83 or '84. We picked up the Motorhead album that included "Dance On Your Grave". We used to translate the names of the songs into our language, and when we realized that Sepultura meant 'grave', we knew we had to have it as our name". Shakespear's Sister - named from the b-side of a certain Smiths single. Simple Minds - from a line in the David Bowie song 'Jean Genie'. Steeleye Span - Formed by Ashley Hutchings, previously of Fairport Convention, they were looking for something folksy and settled for the name of a character in the traditional Lincolnshire ballad, Horkston Grange. Stiff Little Fingers - Derived from a line in a Vibrators song which was, in turn, referring to an early '60s US sci-fi series, The Invaders, in which the invading aliens were distinguishable from earthlings only because they all had unbendable pinkies. Throbbing Gristle - after a Pork Dukes' track Wet Wet Wet - From the line "his face is wet, wet with tears" taken from the Scritti Politti song Getting Having And Holding. The third Wet was added to distinguish them from such double-headed names as Duran Duran and Talk Talk. COCTEAU TWINS - They were named after an old Simple Minds song first called "Cocteau Twins", then renamed to "No Cure". DEEP PURPLE - Ritchie Blackmore's grandmother liked the BING CROSBY's song "Deep Purple" BADFINGER - The working title of the BEATLES song "A Little Help From My Friends". MANSUN - From an early song by The Verve, "A Man Called Sun". The similarity to famous hippie mind control expert Charlie Manson was no doubt taken into consideration as well. McCOYS - Named after the VENTURES song McCOY. MONSTER MAGNET - Taken from the Frank Zappa song "The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet" MR. MISTER - From a T-Rex song on the Tanx album. THE PRETENDERS - Named after the Platters song "The Great Pretender". URGE OVERKILL - Named after a Parliament song. There's a very funny joke up there somewhere. Oh... and my favorite lyrics to any Higsons song: Ylang Ylang You mix me up, you make me feel like Bob Dylan and Dylan Thomas and Thomas Mann and Man Ray and Ray Miland in The Man With The X-Ray Eyes. You mix me up, you make me feel like Henry James and James Dean and Dean Martin and Martin Luther King Kong. You got me climbing up the walls. Except for Jacob Lurch, Je. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:31:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: various disembodied answers and replies >El Duce appears in the film "Kurt & Courtney", a documentary about Kurt >Cobain & >Courtney Love and the rise and fall of Nirvana. I can't remember the name >of his >band, but the film shows a video by them, and, boy, do they *suck*. The Mentors. > Well, this is probably cheating, but the only one that immediately >springs to mind is the Beach Boys' "Hang Onto Your Ego," which then evolved >into "I Know There's an Answer." I've never heard it (waah!), but there's a bootlegged Beatles song called "Child of Nature" which apparently has the same music as Lennon's solo hit "Jealous Guy." Here's where Eddie bursts in with an endorsement for Wesley Willis.... > I've often wondered this. The Modern Lovers were around at that time >(1974), but their debut album had not yet been released. Or maybe the whole >thing is a coincidence? Hmmm. It's my understanding that their debut album was recorded in *1973*, but not released until three years later. Am I wrong? >following up gnat's improbable reference to the Beastie Boys, these lines >from "Sure Shot": >"I'm like Lee Perry, I'm very... on / rock the microphone, and then I'm >gone!" >"I'm a newlywed, I'm not a divorcee / and everything I do is funky like Lee >Dorsey!" Well, come on...that's practically the Beasties' entire lyrical shtick. Bragging that "We [action] like [pop-culture name]." You could probably find 200 lines like this in their catalog. (Dan-Yell and I have argued about the worth of this approach in private, on several occasions. I'm on the negative side, as you might guess.) >BADFINGER - The working title of the BEATLES song "A Little Help From My >Friends". "Badfinger Boogie," actually. >I haven't given Jason Falkner a chance. When I first heard "Very Best >Years" by the Grays, I was in love with it for about a week. Then, I >watched "120 Minutes" (for I was younger and more foolish), and he sat there >for A FULL MINUTE explaining what this very plain and transparent song was >about. Just went on and on, as if the lyric was some kind of imagistic >stream-of-conscious labyrinth instead of very basic 12th-grade poetry >(albeit wrapped in a lovely melody). You mean Jason Falkner is wordy and rambling in interviews???? Wow! Never would have guessed! Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #80 ******************************