From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 08 : Number 079 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: How's the Water...? [Eb ] Celebrity Death part 5000 [Ben ] Re: How's the Water...? [Capuchin ] Re: How's the Water...? [Terrence M Marks ] Re: welcome Paul/tastes like what? [Gregory Stuart Shell ] numanology [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: Welcome, Paul... [Ross Overbury ] ATTN: Seattle fegs (semi-personal, no apparent RH) [Ross Overbury ] Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content ["Paul Christia] Kershaw Sessions [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] oh gawd [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content [Joel Mullins <] Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content ["Russ Reynolds] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #77 ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: More rock-weenie drivel to annoy Eb ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #77 ["Russ Reynolds" ] rock-weenie/Eb ["Russ Reynolds" ] when two threads collide ["Russ Reynolds" ] re: PS ["Russ Reynolds" ] All KINDS of relevant news! [Eb ] Ketchup [Ethyl Ketone ] ketchup on recent things ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:32:52 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: How's the Water...? >Queen Elvis. Get Queen Elvis first. It's his best. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:33:42 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Celebrity Death part 5000 Dusty Springfield ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: How's the Water...? On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > >Queen Elvis. Get Queen Elvis first. It's his best. > OK... my favorite. Best is pretty subjective anyway, but I'll concede. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:48:11 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: How's the Water...? On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Capuchin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: > > >Queen Elvis. Get Queen Elvis first. It's his best. > > > > OK... my favorite. It's a tolerable album. I'd advise anyone to get I Often Dream of Trains or Underwater Moonlight first, though. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu np-"Rufus Wainright" dubbed at a wobbly 5/6 speed onto a tape, making him sound a like a very drunk Tom Waits. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:11:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: welcome Paul/tastes like what? Welcome Home Paul, On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: EYE On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Terrence M Marks wrote: IODOT, Underwater Moonlight On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Capuchin wrote: Queen Elvis On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Eb wrote: Queen Elvis At anytime, Greg says: EYE Welcome home Paul, Don't worry, you have not missed much,, except for the occasional bird bath and the chunky Quail Soup np: (guess) ok eye ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:46:27 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Welcome, Paul... Hey Paul, I agree with just about everything that has been recommended so far. You really can't go wrong with a Robyn Hitchcock album. I always have a hard time deciding which one is my favorite, because each album has its own unique sound that I love. And for this reason, I'm gonna recommend Invisible Hitchcock. It's a compilation of some of the songs that Robyn had recorded in the early 80's but were just laying around somewhere. The result is an incredible journey through the many things Robyn can be. Because of this, it doesn't stick together as well as other albums like Eye or Element of Light. But it still contains some of the grooviest songs ever recorded (that is my humble opinion, of course). I can't think of anything that makes me feel as smooth and nice (poor adjectives, I know) as A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of Wine. Anyway, welcome to the list, Paul. Hope you enjoy yourself and get turned on to some great music. I sure as hell have. Later Joel P.S. Can anyone replace the aforementioned poor adjectives with something better? I can never describe what I feel when I hear that song, but it has something to do with smoothness. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:54:03 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: numanology On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:50:01 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 03:57:33 -0600 >From: amadain >Subject: Re: numan! > >> As a Recovering Numaholic > >Isn't it Numanoids? I think that's what the people on the listserv call >themselves. Really? I had actually named some plants I was raising at one point "my Numanoid Army". Thankfully, they all died. :-) > >>Jericoholic now though!! :-))), > >Didn't get this. Jericho? Uh, It is a reference to WCW Professional Wrestling. Hey, What can I say, I am part redneck...It is in my blood to watch that stuff...:-) > >> I can attest to this. What about "are >>friends electric?" "The joy circuit"? > >I picked up the autobiography "Praying To The Aliens" while I was in >London. I don't know how readily available it is here in the US. The >explanations behind some of the songs on "Replicas" would probably interest >you, particularly that one- many of them relate to a sci-fi novel he was >writing at the time. The "Friends" in question refer to electronic robot >"friends" you could hire to come to your house and "play chess with you or >whatever" if you are bored. Especially at night since in this fictional >city anyone human caught outside at night was fed to a giant death and >torture machine in a large central park, So, "Down in the park where the madmen play kill by numbers..." and they would all be caught since >all the houses were built from some light-reflective material that made >them glow brightly at night, making it impossible to hide. > >Yes, this was all perfectly clear from the lyrics. Not :). > Hey, I had read about the back-story at one point. Quite honestly, I would actually still rather read the novel than listen to the album. Have you heard his last album, "Exile"? Over the top pretensious!!! >It's a pretty interesting book, actually. He's a very imaginative fellow, >Mr. Numan. yeah...and apparently a damn good pilot too. A lot of his music is Still rather silly....:-) Anyway, If I want to hear synth-y music, I will grab for my Kraftwerk albums...They were/are such genius!! -luther ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:59:33 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Welcome, Paul... On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > I > can't think of anything that makes me feel as smooth and nice (poor > adjectives, I know) as A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of > Wine. > > P.S. Can anyone replace the aforementioned poor adjectives with > something better? I can never describe what I feel when I hear that > song, but it has something to do with smoothness. > "I can't think of anything that makes me feel as bulbous and well-greased?" Damn it, I'm stuck too! Eye and Queen Elvis seem to provoke more disagreement on this list than the rest of the canon. Paul, what do you like best about what you've heard so far? That might help people come up with suggestions. Aside from Brown Mucus, there's very little of real interest to be found in Eb's suggestion, . Eb has a persistent attachment to it that defies both explanation and remedial effort. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:06:22 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: ATTN: Seattle fegs (semi-personal, no apparent RH) Anybody in Seattle know if the Deboras are still there? I'm trying to send them a gift. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 05:59:25 PST From: "Ghost Surfer" Subject: Things First off, Happy Birthday RH & AM. Belated Happy Birthday HG. Jason Falkner played in London the other night with a dislocated shoulder after he fell over in the shower in Germany. Still a good show. The man from Cake had to cancel their gigs after he bust his hand moving furniture. Rock 'n' roll eh? R.E.M. played in London last night and they rocked. Eponymous tracks... They might be giants Baby Bird Fun Lovin' criminals immaculate fools icehouse easterhouse fairground attraction .............. house of love sang about themselves on "shine on" That's it. - ----------------************************************************------------ "There are times when i can't think about the future, when all my days seem so dark and life seems cruel" - Mojave 3 & "Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:16:57 -0600 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content >1. Welcome! Thank you. :) >2. My current favorite RH cd is also Globe of Frogs, but I do recommend Moss >Elyxir- it may acquaint you with his more recent songwriting, and it is a really >great work on its own. Hadn't even heard of "Moss Elyxir" until yesterday. The person who mentioned also said something about a companion CD called "Mossy Liquor"? >3. You will probably notice that we talk about ourselves and other things here, >but it's not really the Sleater-Kinney/Neutral Milk Hotel listserve. Really. >This is actually a place for people who happen to like Robyn Hitchcock but may >also have some other interests. Heh. I'm on a few other listservs which operate very much the same way, so it doesn't bother me a bit. You all just chatter away, and I'll sit quietly in the corner until I know everyone a little better. >And none of that which I just wrote may be true, except about the pink and white >circus animal cookies being a perfect food. Gotta respect a straightforward liar. ;) Paul Christian Glenn cirhsein@firinn.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:40:54 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Kershaw Sessions I've just been listening to "Kershaw Sessions" (which I've finally, after all these years, bought a copy of) and I'm impressed by the lovely subtlety that some of them gain (particularly the PI ones, and 'Arms of Love' - it's not just a different version of that song, it's a different chemistry). Even 'Superman' is tolerable in this form! And as for the intro to "Madonna of the wasps"... this album is an oft-overlooked classic. Some passing thoughts about some of the songs therein: * Interesting juxtaposition of Brenda's Iron Sledge and Veins of the Queen, when you consider the suggestions as to Brenda's identity. * Higsons still sounds like it should be performed by Gary Numan. * I'm wondering why there has been no discussion about the subtle difference in the lyrics of "52 Stations" on this album... just who does that one station belong to, then??? It's also a much less bitter version, more just Robyn's usual 'sad wistfulness' (TM). * Another thing - Oceanside... I've been wondering for ages - do any of you see a similarity between the future place with the big red sun and some of the descriptions in William Hope Hodgson's classic gothic tale "The house on the borderland"? Just wondering... >And no, James, they didn't have any Chills,Richard Thompson, Church or >Shooglenifty. (Why should Eb get all of the personal asides?) why indeed? Even Terry has spotted this onesidedness! Shame on them for not having any Shooglenifty instrumentals to sing along to! James (Phlegm factory south) James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:41:00 +1300 (NZDT) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: oh gawd >How many songs mention the name of the artist who performs it somewhere in >the lyrics? - - The Monochrome Set (I presume) - - Icehouse, by Flowers (they later changed their name to Icehouse after a naming dispute - - The live (MCMLXVIWWZZQ) version of "Sweet Jane", by VU - - 'Doing rude but enjoyable things in heaven' (Fatboy Slim) - - Needles & Plastic (Double Happys - yeh, I had to get a NZ one in there.Also "Split Ends" by, erm, Split Enz) - - The Ballad of John & Yoko by the Beatles mentions John & Yoko - "God" by John & Yoko, mentions the Beatles - - A single desultory phillipic (Simon & Garfunkel) mentions Art Garfunkel; and producer Roy Hallee - - The Wombling Song :) - - "They might be giants" by, erm... - - "The story of Them, parts 1 & 2" - - The King Crimson Barbershop Quartet LOts of soloists mention their name in songs - for example: - - "You don't mess around with Jim" (Jim Croce) - - "You should have listened to Al (Al Stewart) - - There's also a Laurie Anderson track where someone says 'Oh,look - another Laurie Anderson clone' - but I can't remember the title ("Look at me"?) - - approx 40% of rap Two that I know of make deliberate mention of the publishing company or label: "Only a Northern Song" (Beatles) "Island" (Gerry Rafferty) >Did Yes ever write a song containing the word "Yes"? there's one on Drama that says "The answer to the question is Yes" (ask a silly question...) >"We had a party three years later; Clean Steve wore a robe. He brought a >new Nick Lowe cassette..." not long after Bowie put out the album "Low", Nick Lowe put out the EP "Bowi" (which IIRC contained the track "I love the sound of breaking glass") Brian Eno "saw the lovers, the Modern Lovers, and they looked very good" (or is it that that band, like A Certain Ratio, got their name from the song?) ***Oh, and what about Egyptian Cream?*** (And the Wreck of the Arthur Lee, for that matter) James (hoick phut gurgle) James Dignan ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** Dunedin, New Zealand ***NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS*** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 22:31:04 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content Paul Christian Glenn wrote: > Hadn't even heard of "Moss Elyxir" until yesterday. The person who mentioned also > said something about a companion CD called "Mossy Liquor"? I think Moss Elixir is a fucking masterpiece! And Mossy Liquor cannot be found on CD. It was released on vinly only. It contains studio outtakes and prototypes. It's definitely worth having. There's some great stuff on there that isn't on Moss Elixir. And by the way, elixir is spelled with two i's. Someone misspelled it. It's sort of pet peeve of mine. And I think I've got the best suggestion for you. Go to a record store and buy every RH CD they have. Then go to the next store and buy everything they have. Repeat this until you can't stop talking about Robyn and all your friends think you've gone completely off the deep end. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:05:26 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: dessicration of the holy sacrament... some RH content >Russ, you are a great guy, but you simply cannot put anything except maybe milk >on pink and white (Mother's brand) animal cookies. This is the most sacred food >on earth and made entirely for raising the conciousness of the human spirit. I would think putting milk on one of these things would merely make them soggy. Don't judge until you've tried it. You must try not to be a less than large thinker, my man. >I ate a small bag of them the other day. You mean a less than large bag. You're cheating yourself, sir. Buy the Costco size. >3. You will probably notice that we talk about ourselves and other things here, >but it's not really the Sleater-Kinney/Neutral Milk Hotel listserve. Really. >This is actually a place for people who happen to like Robyn Hitchcock but may >also have some other interests. Soon, however, the place will be brimming with talk about Robyn Hitchcock's new album. What to you think the odds are that reviews will be as overwhelmingly positive as those of the new XTC have been on Chalkhills? I'd be very surprised, based on past RH releases, if there wasn't at LEAST a 30% negative response, no matter HOW good the album is. That's just the way we are here, for some reason. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:10:47 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #77 >4. "Black 47" name checks themselves in a song I can't remember. They >also have another song *called* "Black 47," too. Ya know, I have this record and I love it! I've never talked to anyone else who has heard of them though. Haven't really kept up--have they had any success at all? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:18:55 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: More rock-weenie drivel to annoy Eb >The Who mentions T. Rex in "You Better you Bet." (They also mention their >own album there, too: "Who's Next." Cute.) > >Mott the Hoople namedrops T. Rex in "All the Young Dudes" > >David Bowie has Ziggy Stardust allude to T. Rex in "Lady Stardust." > >Oasis rips off T. Rex in "What's the Story, Morning Glory." And T.Rex mentions Dylan & Lennon cool in "Ballrooms of Mars" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:25:14 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: More rock-weenie drivel to annoy Eb And T.Rex mentions T.Rex in "The Groover". Russ Reynolds wrote: > >The Who mentions T. Rex in "You Better you Bet." (They also mention their > >own album there, too: "Who's Next." Cute.) > > > >Mott the Hoople namedrops T. Rex in "All the Young Dudes" > > > >David Bowie has Ziggy Stardust allude to T. Rex in "Lady Stardust." > > > >Oasis rips off T. Rex in "What's the Story, Morning Glory." > > And T.Rex mentions Dylan & Lennon cool in "Ballrooms of Mars" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:36:17 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #77 >- -tc, looking across the street and seeing three guys with clipboards >standing around a bleeding fire hydrant. R&D guys working on a dog-proof model perhaps. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:50:08 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: rock-weenie/Eb - ---------- >From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) >To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org >Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #78 >Date: Wed, Mar 3, 1999, 4:32 PM > >How about entire songs specifically about >another band? > >"Flashback, 1983. Chronic Town was their >first e.p. Later on came Reckoning... >R.E.M.!...R.E.M.!..." > --Pavement Leppo & The Jooves, we've been told, were an actual band as well (can anyone actually verify this and offer any recollections of having seen them jump on things?). Of course no discussion of bands singing about other bands would be complete without the optimistic Paper Lace ditty, "The Night Chicago Died" - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:04:25 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: when two threads collide ><< How about entire songs specifically about > another band? > Hey, since Randy Newman's name has come up I feel compelled to mention the hilarious "Story of A Rock & Roll Band", all about ELO. Right off they needed a name Someone said "How 'bout The Renegades?" Johnny said "Well, I don't know I prefer E.L.O." I love their "Mr. Blue Skies" Almost my favorite is "Turn To Stone" And how 'bout "Telephone Line"? I love that E.L.O. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:08:40 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: re: PS >I've been trying to compile a definitive list of songs sung by women. If >anyone has any titles to suggest, could you privately email me at >quail@panix.com? Thanks. > >Eb Um... Janis Ian did "Seventeen." And there's "Piano Man" by Billy Joel. Those are the only two I can think of. There must be more though, right? - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:16:01 -0800 From: Eb Subject: All KINDS of relevant news! To get AllStar news daily, go to http://my.musicblvd.com.... >George Michael, Rufus Wainwright, Barnes Lead GLAMA >Nominations > >The third Annual Gay & Lesbian American Music Award >nominees were announced on Tuesday (March 2) with Loud >Boy recording artist Barnes leading a field that >includes George Michael, Rufus Wainwright, Ani >DiFranco, and the B-52's. > >Rufus Wainwright was close behind with four nods, >including Debut Artist of the Year and Album of the >Year (Rufus Wainwright). >_______________________________________________ > >TLC, Enimem, Roots Debut High On The Billboard 200 > >Paul Westerberg's Suicaine Gratifaction debuts at No. >104 next week, while XTC's Apple Venus Vol. 1 follows >closely behind at No. 106. > >Other notable debuts next week: Built to Spill, Keep >It Like a Secret, No. 120; Sleater-Kinney, Hot >Rock, No. 181; and Sebadoh, The Sebadoh, No. 197. >_______________________________________________ > >Beth Orton Lands Back In The Hospital > >British singer/songwriter Beth Orton has been admitted >to an undisclosed London hospital for treatment and >tests in her long-running battle with Crohn's disease. > >According to publicist Brendan Bourke of Girlie >Action, Orton has been battling the chronic disease, >which is an inflammatory intestinal disorder that >generally causes ulcers in the small and large >intestines, for some time now and has been "sick off >and on for the past four months." > >The disease is usually diagnosed in people during >their teens or 20s, and has periods of remission, >though there is no known cure. > >Her illness has caused her to cancel several shows >over the past few months, including a show scheduled >for last October in Atlanta. It's also complicated the >release of her second album, Central Reservation, >forcing her to cancel numerous interviews to promote >the album, and looks likely to disrupt planned >promotional appearances and performances, including >one at the South by Southwest Music Conference in mid- >March. However, the album is still slated for its >planned March 9 release on Arista. > >Orton is currently undergoing a battery of tests, and >her doctors have yet to determine whether surgery >will be necessary. Bourke says that Orton will remain >in the hospital for at least the next two weeks. Eb, just back from seeing Elliott Smith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:27:21 -0800 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Ketchup At 7.46 PM -0800 3/3/99, Joel Mullins wrote: >I agree with just about everything that has been recommended so far. I >can't think of anything that makes me feel as smooth and nice (poor >adjectives, I know) as A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of >Wine. OK, I love this song! It somehow works!!!! Oh god, HOW THE HELL can I keep up with you guys!!!??????????? (and that means gals too!) First there was Natalies story of Neil Gaiman who's novel "Neverwhere" is highly recommended, then the book list which I have not even begun compiling to add my 2 cents. Then the thanking of Michael K for turning me on to Tindersticks. And what ever happened to the Great BayFeg Lunch as proposed by Nick? The new list member Paul and his recent discovery of Robyn (congratulations Paul, I heartily recomend "Element of Light" and "Moss Elixer" along with the "Decay/Decoy" sessions). And the challenge to find stupid lyrics in early music...I still have my Latin/English dictionary out so maybe one day.... Randy Newman - Saw him at UCSB in 1976 and the lighting was all off (completely out of sync) and in his refrain "Cleveland, City of light..." 3 seconds after the light came on, he casually intergected into the song this line: "Elton would Shit." That, I will never forget... And happy Birthday Robyn (just getting in under the wire PST, but spent the day cowering in headphones with only RH on the deck (translate computer). Designing icons all day. A welcome respite from the usual routine. The Dr. Seuss mention - am working on designing a kids game (only the look and feel, I never professed to being anything other than an artist) and have been playing kids titles like crazy. I LOVE the Dr. Seuss cds. Is that you Russell??? If so, my beret off to you!!!!!!!!!!! Randi - Feg of the milenium, are you OK? No "best of" lists, not follwing most of the music on the list, but hey, Joel Peter Witkin is signing books at the Booksmith up on Haight near Cole this Friday from 7 - 9pm. Next week I am in LA to see the Van Gogh show and visit the New Getty. Playstation 2 announced that it willbe backwards compatible, anybody care? I'm not sure, this far into my games career, that I do... A couple of authors not mentioned: Lucius Shepard "Life During Wartime: eerie novel fo a 3rd world war in Central America fought with pshycological warfare as much as with artillery. Compelling and well written. This guy is good. Other books: "Jaguar Hunter", "Golden Eyes" (not as good). I cannot rave enough about Jonathan Carroll except that I recommend "Bones of the Moon" or "Sleeping in Flame" as the first books. Then one can venture on to his other novels, "Outside the Dog Museum" being one of my least favorites. Thomas Pynchon. Umberto Eco. Borges. Conrad. Twain. Kundera. Kipling. And let me add a couple of Polish writers: Tadeaus Konwicki; "A Minor Apocolypse". Story of a dissident writer chosen by the union to set himself on fire on the party steps when the Soviet delegation is visiting. He spends the book looking for matches once he has found the gasoline... Czelow Milosz: 1980 recipeint of the Nobel Prize in Literature., His poetry, along with his wriitng, is astounding. Find "Child of Eurpoe" written in 1945 and read it!! Other writers: Raymond Chandler, Daheil Hammtt, Elizabeth hand, Leo Perutz, Dosteoyesvsky, William Volman, P.K. Dick. No One has mentioned the existentialists: H. Hesse and A.Camus. Good reading, you must admit. OK, off to lurk mode for another jam-packed-3-titles-in-simmultaneous-development week... Be Seeing You, - - Carrie ps: South bay fegs: I am in San Jose for the games developers conference at least the 18th and 19th of March. Possibly the 17th> Anyone up for lunch one of those days????????? I am game. The 18th being less good since I cannnot imbibe in spirits before the lecture... E-mail me off list and lets get together!!!!! "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:10:08 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: ketchup on recent things entire songs about other bands: "Blasting XTC" by the blue up? (question mark sic) - - much in the same spirit as "Alex Chilton" only about 4% as cool. And they didn't get Andy or Colin to guest on other parts of the same record, either. following up gnat's improbable reference to the Beastie Boys, these lines from "Sure Shot": "I'm like Lee Perry, I'm very... on / rock the microphone, and then I'm gone!" "I'm a newlywed, I'm not a divorcee / and everything I do is funky like Lee Dorsey!" (my favorite line from this song, which I try to quote or paraphrase every day if I can, is : "and I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!") best band: - - I will defend Sugar to anyone, based on the concert I saw in Austin on 2nd December 1994. Keith Richards says that any band can be the best band in the world for a night -- this must have been theirs. The loudest music during which I've ever cried (and it wasn't just dolphing -- all 6 of us guys standing there were blubbering). Yeah, the real elevating thing is Mould, but I think Sugar is the only Mould band where all the players were not only excellent, but the vision was really focused and together and full of impact. When they were off (as in live in Houston the previous year), the songs were still great, but when they were on, they were unstoppable. I haven't given Jason Falkner a chance. When I first heard "Very Best Years" by the Grays, I was in love with it for about a week. Then, I watched "120 Minutes" (for I was younger and more foolish), and he sat there for A FULL MINUTE explaining what this very plain and transparent song was about. Just went on and on, as if the lyric was some kind of imagistic stream-of-conscious labyrinth instead of very basic 12th-grade poetry (albeit wrapped in a lovely melody). And, as if he'd written the cornerstone of 21st-century culture, in that reverential tone which no one should use to describe their own work imho. So, um, haven't given him a chance. Wow. Full Dolph Rant Mode. Be afraid or something. 8-) The simple mention of Australian rules football by Mark the other day has made me happy. They have the BEST referees. Sometimes, I like to dress all in white and give the signals for a goal all day long. I will follow this up later with an addendum to "Whither Reg?" Look out, peeples. Dolph np: XTC -- "All Of A Sudden (It's Too Late)" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:38:23 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Celebrity Death part 5000 On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Ben wrote: > Dusty Springfield There was a good story in one of the obits. Apparently Dusty had three wigs, called Lulu, Sandie and Cilla after her rivals. The interviewer turned up one day and found Dusty sprucing up one of her wigs; when asked what she was doing, Dusty replied "I'm just slapping Cilla around". Seriously, though, if Eb is really collecting a list of definitive female performances, there are stacks of great interpretations by Dusty ('Wishing and hoping', 'Going back', 'I just don't know what to do with myself', 'You don't have to say you love me', Son of a preacher man' etc etc) - - Mike Godwin PS Re those band self-mentions, don't forget: 'We are the Moles' by the Moles 'Bo Diddley' by Bo Diddley and on the T Rex front, one of the songs on the wondrous Jilted John album mentions T Rex (probably 'Baz's Party'). ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #79 ******************************