From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #74 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 08 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Star-fucking in Chicago [S Dwarf ] the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) [Eb ] Overly late goodies response [dlang ] Something rotten is afoot. [dlang ] Re: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) [Ben ] Re: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) [Danielle ] correcting the great kiwi [Natalie Jacobs ] ferrets [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: tin foil thoths 101: Or, how to flirt w/Rock Stars [VIV LYON ] Whoooops. [Capuchin ] Re: Star-fucking in Chicago [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: you can't get the buttons these days ["JH3" ] Re: you can't get the buttons these days [lj lindhurst ] Re: Something rotten is afoot. [lj lindhurst ] Monsters of Rawk [Michael Wolfe ] Re: Star-fucking in Chicago ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Star-fucking in Chicago (long) [Capuchin ] FegDream [Michael Wolfe ] I got yer polluting promotional items. [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 00:02:50 -0800 (PST) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: Star-fucking in Chicago Russ Reynolds wrote: > >played "Apple Venus" on the PA over and over and over and over and OVER - > >at least ten times, maybe more. It was truly painful. > > Funny...people on that other list have been calling this this *pleasurable* no matter how good an album is, can listening to it ten times in a row ever be more than barely tolerable though? and the couple bad songs on AV are truly wretched, so that would probably make it worse... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:18:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) The Addicted to Noise/Rock & Rap Confidential poll: http://www.addict.com/issues/5.03/html/hifi/Cover_Story/Writers_Poll/001.html I 'm not going to bother posting the results, because somewhat remarkably, the top 20 contains the exact same albums in the Pazz & Jop top 20, just in different order! (Both Rufus and NMH lose a few notches. :P) But check the link if you're still curious. This poll actually included *617* critics. My gawd. It only lists the top 100 albums, however. I didn't compare the top 100 with Pazz & Jop's top 100, but I did note that Jeff Buckley finished #64 on this poll, way up from #139 on the Pazz & Jop poll. Nifty. There was also a *readers* poll taken, in a variety of cute little categories. The results are predictably lame, however. The Beastie Boys pretty much swept every category they were eligible for. And if I remember correctly, Limp Bizkit was voted New Artist of the Year. Arrrrgh. And no, I won't be assembling a list of my 19- and 20-point albums. Jeeeeeez. That sails way off the end of my Wankometer. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:15:41 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Overly late goodies response Fegs! In keeping with my current policy of reading the feg digest at least a week after it has been posted, I have read the debate about those sons of fun, The Goodies. I ,naturally ( although I am sure that this will come some surprise to many on the list ), love them . They had all the elements to create timeless comedy and although their stuff did not always work, there were a large number of absolutely classic episodes, that anyone with a love of slapstick, crazy, truly silly, characters and manic, convoluted and sometimes utterly absurd plots will embrace as a total gas! They also managed to entice some very good British character actors to do cameo roles ,such as John Le Mesurier, Bernard Breslaw, Stanley Baxter ( whose Scots tourist guide is a twisted, grotesque hoot!) , Alfie Bass, Roy Kinnear as well as a host of media personalities such as news readers and current affairs programme hosts. It often had a political slant as well, with a great anti -apartheid episode and some nice anti thatcher bits as well. I could rant on for hours about different episodes, but won't, I do however, have quite a list of Goodies video's from australian tv, such as the The Masked Scouts, The Giant Kitten, Jolly Rock Lighthouse, Timita, End of the World , Punkarella and others. Anyone got any more ? I can trade, but can only do PAL copies. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:15:59 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Something rotten is afoot. Dear fegs, As you know , I am the last person to suggest that a foul conspiracy is in train, but this week the server on which a good half of my web pages resided ceased to exist due to the mysterious disappearance of the gentleman that ran it . He was last seen being bundled into a car at gunpoint by a man in a violently striped shirt who was sporting "a death to Quailspew "lapel badge and who constantly hacked brown sputum into a soiled handkerchief... As the car careened away at high speed a crumpled message stuck to a Rufus Wainwright promo cd was flung at a passing pedestrian , the local paper stated it contained a long mostly garbled diatribe denouncing prog rock, overly indulgent, nonsensical internet postings , smelly drug crazed hippies and trailed off into a long, stringently rated list of bands that most of us had never heard of , but which the stranger insisted we check out if we were to have any street credibility. . Unfortunately the final part of the missive was torn and partly unintelligible, but it appeared to be something along the lines of "no one f**ks with D# and gets away with it. " Perhaps I am being slightly paranoid here, but amongst other artists such as Fairport Convention, Captain Beefheart , etc, a large portion of my website that disappeared was that to do with the Grateful Dead...... ( I can hear the cheers even from this distance Gnat and Susan, show some respect PLEASE!) Now I hear that good Sir Bayard is to go on a long journey and will not be with us for some time,( are we sure that this e-mail came from Bayard, I ask myself ) ,can this be true, or is something more sinister afoot ? Could it be that Bayard has also been "disappeared" by the mysterious fellow in the striped shirt ?. What is more , Jon Fetter does not answer my e-mails, was cut off whilst replying , in mid sentence .....I have been scanning far eastern papers but so far no reports of his disappearance by the striped one have surfaced, but who knows, his modus operandi may not stay constant. Jon, if you are still alive, contact the feglist ! Do I sense the malign hand of e**n f*****g e* behind all this and have we posse members driven him too far with the recent spate of slightly silly postings concerning himself? Has the worm indeed turned and is even now wreaking more havoc amongst those that have been foolish enough to cross swords with him on this very list ? If he can exact vengeance upon me in far off Australia , then his reach has grown very long. yours in a great deal of trepidation dave ps" anyone recommend a good free website space to house my home pages ? I still have it all backed up in a lead lined hard drive, so none of it is lost. . However , the new server space must be e.f.e proof. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:19:18 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) Does anybody else find it odd that on one hand Eb seems obsessed with polls, rankings, and other assorted forms of numerical music critique, yet he says posting a list of his 19-20 pointers "sails way off the end of my Wankometer." (a Wankometer that's undoubtedly calibrated to a 0.001% margin of error ;)) C'mon! Let's see the cream of the crop from the fully searchable, cross-referenced database everyone knows you have! :) Then we can all fill out our own "You gave ____ 19/20 but you only gave ___ 15/20?!?!" posts...hehe. Eb wrote: > The Addicted to Noise/Rock & Rap Confidential poll: > http://www.addict.com/issues/5.03/html/hifi/Cover_Story/Writers_Poll/001.html > > I > 'm not going to bother posting the results, because somewhat remarkably, > the top 20 contains the exact same albums in the Pazz & Jop top 20, just in > different order! (Both Rufus and NMH lose a few notches. :P) But check the > link if you're still curious. > > This poll actually included *617* critics. My gawd. It only lists the top > 100 albums, however. I didn't compare the top 100 with Pazz & Jop's top > 100, but I did note that Jeff Buckley finished #64 on this poll, way up > from #139 on the Pazz & Jop poll. Nifty. > > There was also a *readers* poll taken, in a variety of cute little > categories. The results are predictably lame, however. The Beastie Boys > pretty much swept every category they were eligible for. And if I remember > correctly, Limp Bizkit was voted New Artist of the Year. Arrrrgh. > > And no, I won't be assembling a list of my 19- and 20-point albums. > Jeeeeeez. That sails way off the end of my Wankometer. > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:14:32 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Ben wrote: > Let's see the cream of the crop from the fully searchable, cross-referenced > database everyone knows you have! :) Then we can all fill out our own "You gave > ____ 19/20 but you only gave ___ 15/20?!?!" posts...hehe. y'know, were i eb, that notion would surely dissuade me, wankmeter or no. - -- d. "pictures of perfection make me sick and wicked." -- miss jane austen - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 06:02:48 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: the last 1998 poll (or so we hope? ;)) > > And no, I won't be assembling a list of my 19- and 20-point albums. > > Jeeeeeez. That sails way off the end of my Wankometer. Uh, you actually sent me an 'informal' list of these, once. Over a year ago. Keep at him, folks. ;) Danielle, lightheaded and nauseous on two hours sleep _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:16:22 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: correcting the great kiwi James sez, > Much of the Skylarking album can >be interpreted within a Wiccan spirit. Well... pagan, really, not Wiccan. Wicca is one subset of neo-paganism, in the same way that, say, Lutherans are one type of Christian. There are other types of neo-paganism as well, though Wicca is the most common. I don't see anything specifically Wiccan on "Skylarking," just general pagan themes (the turning seasons, celebration of nature, etc.). The same goes for the more pagan-ish songs off "Apple Venus." Only the little blurb on the back cover points towards Wicca, and that may not have been intentional, as already noted. n. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:05:43 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: ferrets My friend writes: >I really can't explain this: http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~mcm/ferret.html Opening paragraphs: Mr. Reg Mellor, the "king of the ferret-leggers," paced across his tiny Yorkshire miner's cottage as he explained the rules of the English sport that he has come to dominate rather late in life. "Ay, lad," said the seventy-two-year-old champion, "no jockstraps allowed. No underpants-- nothin` whatsoever. And it's nogood with tight trousers, mind ye. Little bah-stards have to be able to move around inside there from ankle to ankle." Basically, ferret-legging involves the tying of a competitor's trousers at the ankles and the insertion into those trousers of a couple of peculiarly vicious fur-coated, foot-long carnivores called ferrets. The brave contestant's belt is then pulled tight, and he proceeds to stand there in front of the judges as long as he can, while animals with claws like hypodermic needles and teeth like number 16 carpet tacks try their damnedest to get out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: tin foil thoths 101: Or, how to flirt w/Rock Stars Carole posited- > I think you need to teach a "tin foil thoth 101" seminar for all of us. Me too. They are mucho fine. I am bursting with pride to announce that I am the keeper of a tin foil Thoth my own self at this juncture. I believe Natalie has initiated an art movement. > Did Viv give him a kiss on the cheek as well??? Nope. I was so excited by Natalie's amazing success (I was standing behind her) that all the the things I'd planned to say flew out of my mind. I really wanted to tell him how cute he is. He is so CUTE! DAMN! But I didn't. I'm doomed to make an ass out of myself. Oh well. Now Andy Partridge and I have similar tin foil objects in our possession. That is enough. Vivien I pronounce it 'Zhem', by the way. As though he were French. (French fries, french dressing, french bread- and to drink- Peru!) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: you can't get the buttons these days All and sundry- re: Partridge fest I forgot to mention JH3 and his beneficent bestowal of an XTC button upon myself. I had lost my own, to my chagrin, and he produced from his coat a handful of (I think) handcrafted buttons of his own devising, one of which he proferred to me. I do not know that he intended me to keep it, but keep it I did. Thanks, man. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:19:20 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Whoooops. Fucked up. Nobody kill me. Minor misunderstanding. To continue and explain a little: On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, James Dignan wrote: > >The next day I had the pleasure of talking to our very own Jeme on the > >phone - Jeme, whose name I insist on pronouncing as if it rhymed with > >"meme" > so how the blue plastic fnudd is it supposed to be pronounced??? Well, I was thinking about this and wondering who would respond and hence my response to Vivien which came off much more personal than it was intended and well... shit. Anyway. To sum up. I get called all sorts of things and always have. And really, most things don't bother me TOO much. I only HATE it when people call me names with letters that obviously aren't in my name or at least not in that order. I get called Jeremy more often than you'd think. Viv says something like "Zhem" as you heard, which I think is pretty cool. Michael Wolfe says "Jeemee" which is a little weird, but I don't mind too much. Friends Rachel and Mary say Je and J respectively, but they're pronounced the same (don't ask me why Rachel makes a distinction. My mother says "Jaymee" in a really shrill voice. I don't think that's the only reason I hate that particular and most common pronunciation. So say what you will. I'm pretty comfortable any which way. And if you quote Better Off Dead, I'll call you beautiful, too. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:38:41 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Star-fucking in Chicago In a message dated 3/1/99 12:22:19 AM, munki1972@yahoo.com writes: << > >played "Apple Venus" on the PA over and over and over and over and OVER - > >at least ten times, maybe more. It was truly painful. > > Funny...people on that other list have been calling this this *pleasurable* no matter how good an album is, can listening to it ten times in a row ever be more than barely tolerable though? and the couple bad songs on AV are truly wretched, so that would probably make it worse... >> I've really come to like this album quite a bit, but, yeah, I have to agree: NO ALBUM is enjoyable more than, maybe, three times in a row (and that would have to be, like, your first three listens to some brand new album that you've really been looking forward to). Oh, but I can't say that I agree about there being any "truly wretched" songs on "Apple Venus." I'd give "Fruit Nut" (the 2nd Moulding track) a "pretty forgettable," but not a "truly wretched." And I actually like his other contribution. And all the Partridge songs are somewhere between "good" and "fantastic!" ("Your Dictionary"). Hey, does anyone know when "Apple Venus Volume 2" is coming out? Roughly? - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:51:34 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: you can't get the buttons these days Viv writes: >I forgot to mention JH3 and his beneficent bestowal of an XTC button >upon myself. I had lost my own, to my chagrin, and he produced from >his coat a handful of (I think) handcrafted buttons of his own >devising, one of which he proferred to me. Not handcrafted (even *I* wouldn't go quite that far), but I don't think it's official either. I think there were about two dozen varieties of Drums & Wires badges produced by various (mostly unauthorized) parties, of which I own about six IIRC. I suppose I *could* produce my own; I have the technology... In fact, if anyone wants an almost-dead-accurate vector graphic version of the Drums & Wires cover to use in the production of T-shirt iron-ons, coffee mugs, or other specialty-advertising items, just let me know. (...he wrote, knowing nobody would have the faintest idea as to what he was talking about...) Btw: I never "proffer"; I usually just "fork over." >I do not know that he intended me to >keep it, but keep it I did. Thanks, man. Go ahead and keep it, as long as you promise to wear it in public occasionally and not trade it to some other maniac collector for tapes and stuff that you could just as easily get from me anyway! John "I've always pronounced it 'JAMAIS' because it reminds me of Paris" Hedges PS. Those things that stick out of the heads of quails are called "happenchances"? Shit, I thought they were "hair-feathers." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:01:26 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: you can't get the buttons these days >John "I've always pronounced it 'JAMAIS' because it reminds me of Paris" >Hedges Wait, doesn't "jamais" mean 'NEVER'? then perhaps that is a kind of appropriate stubbornness for our buddy Capuchin. When I pronounce it, it sounds like "Jughead." lj, eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich-- come on, everybody! join me! it will be better than Hands Across America! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:12:31 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Something rotten is afoot. > As the car careened away at high speed a crumpled message stuck to a >Rufus Wainwright promo cd was flung at a passing pedestrian , the local paper >stated it contained a long mostly garbled diatribe denouncing prog rock, >overly >indulgent, nonsensical internet postings , smelly drug crazed hippies and >trailed off into a long, stringently rated list of bands that most of us had >never heard of , but which the stranger insisted we check out if we were to >have any street credibility. . Yes, and what is to explain Rufus Wainwright's recent remarks to the Washington Post? I quote: "Most of my songs, especially 'Damned Ladies' are really thinly-veiled tributes to Claudine Longet. I know there is not a lot of art and music dedicated to this great, great woman, but I wanted to take a stand and show the world what a spectacular impact she has had on our modern culture." hmm, makes you wonder... and we haven't heard from the Bee King in a long time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:41:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Monsters of Rawk 'lo fegz! To provide a bit of context: The Portland International Film Festival has been going on for the last two weeks, and I've averaged 2 a night (27 films total.) Then in the last four days I've had four concerts: The Academy of Saint-Martin-in-the-Fields, Elliott Smith, Sleater-Kinney, and the Portland Baroque Orchestra. It's something of a cultural overload. I think I'll spend the next week sorting my sock drawer or something similarly low-key. > Speaking of Portland Fegs, Carole, Michael W. and I enjoyed >ourselves immensely at the Elliott Smith show last night. I always >forget what a *really good* guitar player he is! Great fingerstyle >stuff. And, of course, he makes you all sad and happy with his songs. >Yea, Elliott! Yessir, it was quite good. It was fantastic to be close enough to the guy to appreciate such things. I wonder how much longer that will be possible? Michael, I hope that I wasn't obstructing your view. Being as tall as I am, I can pose something of an obstacle. Of course, I was trying to jockey into the best possible location for taping while simultaneously trying not to impede my friends' views. I think the recording came out well, though, and it looks like Carole agrees. The audience was agreeably quiet while Elliott was playing. As a side note, that opening act (No. 2) was really good! I think that I would actually go and see them on their own. >(who is forever indebted to Michael W. for taping the Satyricon Elliott S. >show. Whee! (tm)) No, Carole. Not forever, just until you can compile a track listing for me (I don't know the names to half of the songs he played.) >portland fegs, they're at the la luna tonight (where we all saw robyn >play in '94). you have your assignments! Yessir. This was the very next night after the E. Smith show. I was there. The cover was a mere $5, and while I had never heard Sleater-Kinney before, I thought this would be a prime opportunity for me to rectify the situation. I nearly fell asleep during the opening acts when I was sitting in the bar watching people play pool and half paying attention to Who Framed Roger Rabbit? But I rousted myself in time to get decent recording position about 8 feet from the PA stack on the right side of the stage. Sleater-Kinney took the stage to enthusiastic applause and tuned a bit. Then Carrie played four chords, then three more, drawing feedback off of the last one, and went up to her mic and gave the audience a smiling, terse "Hi." A brief pause... ...and then Sleater-Kinney proceeded to rip the roof off of that fucker. Their first song was... umm, well as I said, this was my first exposure to them, but I think it was called What Are You Waiting For? Quite appropriate, I should think. Anyway, that song by any other name would rock just as hard. I felt like the guy in the famous Maxell advertisement, sitting in the chair with the wind blowing. Thank god I had earplugs in. The recording of that came out pretty well, too. It (not surprisingly) sounds a bit overloaded in places, but I'm not sure that could have been helped. woj, didn't you mention that you got an MZ-R50 for Christmas? That's what I used, and I know you mentioned regretting not taping their New Yawk show -- I'd be happy to loan you my master at some point, when I've made copies for the folks around here who want them. Michael K, do you think that if I made you a copy that you could help me figure out the song names? That was a really weird couple of nights, now that I think about it. The sensitive singer-songwriter alone on stage with an acoustic guitar one night, and the kick-ass, take-no-prisoners rock band the next night. But with the expected genders perfectly reversed. Right on! Nice to see barriers falling, and expectations being turned on their ears. >Hey, I was just checking the SXSW schedule and discovered the following >shows: > >Built to Spill Thursday @ La Zona Rosa Cool! I certainly wouldn't miss this one. They're playing the Crystal Ballroom here in two weeks, and I don't think I need to tell you how much I'm looking forward to that. I should be almost ready to leave my apartment again by that point. - -Michael Wolfe np: Elliott Smith - Satyricon, 2/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:34:35 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Star-fucking in Chicago IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA, sisters and brothers. IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA. and i don't mean *about* ten. as in, 9 or ten or 11 or what have you. i mean twenny or thirty times in a row, easily. it's a mania. you can't stop yourself. but, happily, you don't regret having done it, either. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:40:45 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Star-fucking in Chicago (long) You call this long? It's 5K. That's no travelogue, kiddo. Do try harder next time. I must say that I'm Quite Jealous of the experience. And I'm not even a huge XTC fan. On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Natalie Jane Jacobs wrote: > The next day I had the pleasure of talking to our very own Jeme on the > phone - Jeme, whose name I insist on pronouncing as if it rhymed with > "meme" - and he kept telling me to move to Portland. I said I'd think > about it. (And I will.) Well, as I'm fond of pointing out, eddie has stated that Portland is "probably the feg capital of the world". It's also a lovely town and I think everybody cool should live here. At the same time, I'm a typical northwest utopianist feller and think that you have no business moving here. What I really mean, of course, is that you have no business moving here if you're not going to play by our rules. You're going to read and go to concerts. You're going to take public transit when you can and walk a whole lot (or get a bike). You're going to smile when it rains. You're not going to be bitchy just because you haven't seen the sun in a month or so. You're going to pick up trash you cross in the street. You're going to recycle. You're going to spend three days each season in Forest Park. You're going to pay before riding MAX. You're going to drive defensively (if at all). You're going to be tolerant of others lunacy. You're going to talk to strangers. You're going to like it here. Damn, I love this town. I think it's impossible to like trees and not love Portland. I'm just in an odd mood today. Happier than I should be, but bitter about it, as usual. > So, my conclusions: Fegs are way cool (a huge thank you to Viv for the > hospitality and putting up with my fan-girldom, and to Jeme for calling), > Andy Partridge is a nice guy, and Thoths will get you everywhere. :) Well, you know I called while you were showering, but Heather wouldn't get you out. I had to call back in an hour. It was great speaking with gnat, by the way. She is, and Dolph agrees, one of the best. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:12:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: FegDream >...Then Melissa said to me, "But won't the show be >sold out already?" I thought about it, then confidently replied, "Eddie >Tews will find a way to sneak us in. I mean, he's already broken into >Jeme's apartment, this'll be easy!" You're telling me! To breach the abode of The Monkey, you must negotiate all manner of hazards, including the Twin Cones of Death, the mysterious and perplexing Rotary Phones, and that which even Jeme lives in fear of: the Entomological Terror. If this does not daunt thee, then be reminded of the presence of the vicious feline That Shall Not Be Named. To this day, I still am in awe of Mr. Blows' accomplishment, and shall be quick to beseech his services when in the future my plans might include burgling. Portland truly is a wond'rous hamlet, (home, as Michael K points out, to Five of the Thousand) but there is also great peril. - -Michael Wolfe np: Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: I got yer polluting promotional items. On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, JH3 wrote: > I suppose I *could* produce my own; I have the > technology... In fact, if anyone wants an almost-dead-accurate vector > graphic version of the Drums & Wires cover to use in the production of > T-shirt iron-ons, coffee mugs, or other specialty-advertising items, just > let me know. (...he wrote, knowing nobody would have the faintest > idea as to what he was talking about...) So here's my question: Did you do the vector graphics for all the Robyn stuff you've posted or did you use Streamline or similar technology or do you lay it all out in xfig or what? I find your Thoth to be a bit thin and scraggly. It's quite a bit like the Thoth on I Often Dream Of Trains, but not like the one on Element of Light (particularly the one printed on the Rhino CD). Mine has the opposite problem (I did mine by hand). I'm rearing up to finally do those stickers (investors? Anyone?) again. My current plan is to use the Thoth I made. Four inch diameter. Do you kids have a preference between reflective or non-reflective white vinyl? Personally, I like the IDEA of reflective, but it's more expensive (Ok... not MUCH more expensive, but it doesn't scale down. For example, 250 pcs is about the same price which every way you go, but 500 pcs is twice as much for reflective). So what do you think? And is 4" good enough? I think so. It seems a little small, but when you realize it's only half an inch less than the printing on the front of a CD, then it's not so bad. > Go ahead and keep it, as long as you promise to wear it in public > occasionally and not trade it to some other maniac collector for > tapes and stuff that you could just as easily get from me anyway! > > John "I've always pronounced it 'JAMAIS' because it reminds me of Paris" > Hedges > > PS. Those things that stick out of the heads of quails are called > "happenchances"? Shit, I thought they were "hair-feathers." I can't decide which of these is the better pick-up line. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #74 ******************************