From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #60 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 16 1999 Volume 08 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [dmw ] Re: Apples crappy mice. [Gregory Stuart Shell ] Re: Mathematical starfucking [dmw ] Trans! [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] more neil [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] fwd: allstar Daily News - 2/15 [Eb ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [Scary Mary ] RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get [james.dignan@sto] Scots wa hae wi' Wallace bled [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James D] the shed [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Sht [hal brandt ] tree time again... [Bayard ] RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get [Ross Overbury ] Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Spanish sh review [Zloduska ] Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [Joel Mullins ] Elliot Smith shows [Joel Mullins ] Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [Joel Mullins ] my stupid theory [Joel Mullins ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those > albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? it was about the eighth time through that i just sorta went: f--u--u--u--c--k--!--!--!--! the first time i thought it was shrill bordering on grating, but that was listening at work through tinny speakers and not turned loud enough to hear any of the words at all. i made it through v--------'- --- and didn't feel suicidal even once -- there's a switch, eh wot? a great side effect to having absolutely no hopes: they can't be dashed. eerily cheerily, - -- d. - --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:13:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: Apples crappy mice. On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Tom Clark wrote: > Some of them even have cute little clitoris' on them*! > Now we know why it feels so good. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:15:36 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Mathematical starfucking On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Natalie Jane Jacobs wrote: > I once talked to Mandelbrot on the phone. (He was calling one of the my room-mate's girlfriend's dad worked right down the hall from benoit m. for years. (when mandelbrot was at ibm's yorktown heights thinktank) full of short little useless posts, - -- d. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:20:11 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: Trans! On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:05:44 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > >also, i know that Trans is generally trashed, but i also remember >somewhere reading it sounded a lot like Music for the Masses/Black >Celebration era Depeche Mode or the first Nine Inch Nails record by >someone not coming to bury it. does this sound pretty fair to anyone >who knows? I actually Really like that record...It is basically what NIN would do yrs later, but with Neil's guitar tones and voice...It is a challenging listen, but it is quite fun...check it out. -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:23:47 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: more neil What about 'Freedom'? come on, that summarizes neil. Plus, it had the 'once anthemic and now anemic since Van Haggar covered it' "rockin in the free world.". My fav on it was "crime in the city"... -luther >As I started to answer this by dividing NY output into categories, I >discovered that a lot of stuff doesn't fit anywhere; generally, though, >there's a bunch of quieter more or less acoustic stuff (Harvest, Harvest >Moon, Comes A Time, Neil Young, After the Goldrush, Unplugged); there's a >bunch of more or less electric guitar stuff (EKTIN, Ragged Glory, >Arc/Weld, Live Rust, Mirror Ball, Zuma); there's a bunch of >stuff that is all over the map (Trans -- computer vocals, synths., Old >Ways --very country, Everybody's Rockin' -- fifties); and there's a >bunch of stuff that is sort of between the acoustic and electric (Sleeps >with angels, Time Fades Away, On the Beach, Tonight's the Night, Rust >Never Sleeps, American Stars'n'Bars). > >Based on what you have, I'd get Tonight's the Night and EKTIN next. > >My favorites are EKTIN (Everybody Knows...), After the Goldrush, Tonight's >the Night, Zuma, Comes a Time, On the Beach, Rust Never Sleeps, Sleeps >With Angels, Harvest, Harvest Moon, but I like almost all of em -- I'd >avoid Old Ways and Everybody's Rockin' though. (Maybe Trans too) I'd also >wait on Landing on Water, Life, Reactor, Lucky thirteen. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:47:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: fwd: allstar Daily News - 2/15 Incidentally, if any Fgz would like to receive daily music news such as below, go to http://my.musicblvd.com/ and follow the directions. Now here's MY question. "Whether celebrating with your true love or going it solo on Valentine's Day"..."get him laid"..."the money shot arrived early in the evening"...did Gail have especially GREAT sex on V-Day, or resent that she didn't get any at all? She seems a bit...um...preoccupied. ;) Eb, who spent the night quite alone, thanks >Zombies' Colin Blunstone Performs 'Wonderful' First >U.S. Show In 26 Years > >Tracy Bonham Joins On Violin > >Whether celebrating with your true love or going it >solo on Valentine's Day, the place to be was >New York's intimate Fez club for the second of two >rare performances by Colin Blunstone, vocalist for >the million-selling '60s British pop group the >Zombies. > >Blunstone, whose signature breathy vocals on the >eternal classic "Time Of the Season," probably still >get him laid, last performed stateside in 1973 at the >original Max's Kansas City. Both shows -- Blunstone >also performed on Friday (Feb. 12) -- were sold out. >Sunday's exhilarating nostalgia-fest included a rich >collection of songs from Blunstone's solo career, >Zombies' favorites, and one stand-out cover, "What >Becomes of the Broken Hearted." > >The 90- minute set kicked off with "Wonderful," an >exultant anthem penned by former Zombies cohort Rod >Argent, with a time step beat that recalls Argent's >best known hit, "Hold Your Head Up." Blunstone wore a >classic, black suit with nehru-style jacket, in contrast >to his band, who were decked out in an array >bright red lame and velvet appropriate to Valentine's >Day. > >The transcendent "She Loves The Way They Love Her" >came next, with backing vocals of the entire band >providing a jubilant chorus for Blunstone's strong >voice to play off. Bassist Joshua Taylor then >presented each band member with a single red rose, >prompting "A Rose for Emily," a minor hit for the >Zombies. Highlights from the Zombies roster included >"If It Don't Work Out," an upbeat song never before >performed live, and "Misty Roses," accompanied by >Spanish acoustic guitar and punctuated with a baroque, >string-quartet interlude. > >The money shot arrived early in the evening, as the >band unexpectedly hurled themselves into a spot-on >rendition of "The Time Of the Season" that drove the >crowd wild. The bulk of Blunstone's solo career >selections were drawn from a 1995 compilation entitled >Some Years: It's the Time of Colin Blunstone. > >"I know a lot of the songs I sing are a little bit >sad," Blunstone offered, "and I often ask, 'Do you >remember the first time you fell in love, and do you >remember the first time you got your heart broken?'" >This was his way of introducing "Caroline Goodbye," >the lilting, unaffected tale of his own first broken >heart. "We're going to go into a bit of Zombie madness >now," Blunstone joked before surrendering a >much-anticipated hit-selection including "Tell Her No" >(for which Blunstone encouraged the audience to sing >along to the "most repetitious chorus of any song") >and "She's Not There." > >The band then departed the stage, with all but >Blunstone returning as lead guitarist Chris Woolsey >cajoled the crowd by announcing "He's not going to >come back unless we hear some 1964-style screaming." >The audience obliged with an eruption of shouts and >applause so fervent, you'd think that the Beatles had >landed at Kennedy airport. An encore of Russ Ballard's >"I Don't Believe in Miracles" and the exuberant "Just >Out Of Reach" ended the evening on a rocking note. > >Backed by a seven-piece band of New York City >musicians (including members of the Fez's "Loser's >Lounge" house band), along with a string section >featuring Tracy Bonham on violin, Blunstone proved >himself to be a captivating live performer who >effortlessly hit even the high falsettos of the >evening. His long-overdue return to New York gave >those lucky enough to attend an unforgettable musical >experience that was, in a word, wonderful. > > - Gail Worley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:49:57 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] > >I have yet to see Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man", but I understand Neil did >the soundtrack to that and it's pretty killer. I keep hearing that...but I have the soundtrack and I can't listen to it unless I'm on acid. And I haven't had any acid around in about 20 years. yer two "essentials" were the ones you mentioned. ..that is to say no Neil Young collection should be missing those two. - -rUss. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 99 19:49:20 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: the "killer app" of endnotes was the fraudulent citation Chris "red-baiter" Gross asks: >LJ, Quail, you were in the Netherlands recently. Could you comment >briefly on the US-installed fascist regime there? Yes -- it was terrible! They made us drink and smoke strange things, and . . . and . . . and they made me look at semi-naked women. . . . . and the Heineken, my God, the red-starred Heineken. . . . - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 99 19:49:13 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Quail Wahad! Eddie "Blue Eyes" asks: >how about frank herbert reading "great battles of Dune"? yes, this >album actually exists! do you have it, quail? Once, once long ago I had a tape of it, but I no longer know where that tape is! I fear I gave it to the same nameless motherless bastard of an ingrate to whom I also loaned my "Avalon Hill" Dune game and my first edition Dune collector's Movie Magazine. The waterless son of a Tleiaxu whore then had the audacity to move away and lose contact with me, with *my* Dune tape, Dune game, and Dune Magazine. . . . - --Reverend Mother Quailus Helen H'muhiam PS: I am kidding about none of this. The best part of the Dune Game was that if you played the Bene Gesserit and you secretly wrote down the name of another player and the turn in which they'd win, and if that player then won in that turn, YOU would win instead! (So you could manipulate the hell out of game from behind the scenes, heh heh heh. . . . ) +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:41:22 -0500 From: Scary Mary Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better Joel wrote: >>was expecting it to blow me away. And it didn't. I like it. But it >>hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those >>albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? To which Eb replied: >I was practically bashing my head into the wall in orgasmic euphoria, the >first time I heard it. I had the same reaction as Eb the first time I heard the cd, although most of my co-workers had to listen to it several times before getting hooked. Of the 9 coworkers who enjoy the cd, 2 loved it on first listen. Speaking of my coworkers, one of them my just loaned me the video "Here are the young men" - Joy Division performing live. I was quite surprised to see how animated Ian Curtis was on stage. I am sad that I never got to see them in concert. S. Mary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:29:41 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get >Nothing like perpetuating a great Canadian myth. > >Caroline, in Toronto on a beautiful sunny day with very little snow heh! reminds me of the joke about why Americans think Canada's so cold - Celsius. You can just see the TV weatherperson saying "In Chicago today it was 80 degrees. meanwhile, Montreal had 28..." and all the Americans watching going "28? In mid summer? Holy shit!" :) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:36:35 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Scots wa hae wi' Wallace bled >That doesn't stop him being the best British writer tho, surely? wait a couple of years... >In fact, both my current favourite 'British' writers are Scottish, >Mr. Welsh, the trainspotter being the other. Whom I just hear was arrested for being drunk and disorderly. Anyone know any more info about that? James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:44:49 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: the shed >James! That was a *fabulous* little song! Rather charming, a little >sinister, a little unsettling. Perfect! You say you composed this in your >shed? > >Now, is this a potting shed, or just a little hut in which you putter >around, sip tea, and twang on your guitar? I'll explain myself. Thank you! But I should explain myself about 'the shed'. It is not really a shed at all. It is a small back room of the house, originally a spare bedroom but actually filled up with workshop tools, books, a filing cabinet and loads of music equipment. It also has a large mural (by yours truly) on one of the walls.I refer to it as 'the shed' because of a book thqat came out about a year back called 'Blokes and their sheds', which explored that great male occupation of having a shed where they could: > muck about, smoke cigarettes, and fiddle with rusty gardening tools the basic premise of the book was that most men (and porobably most women, too) either have or dream of having a completely private room for whatever strange hobbies they have or just to 'be themselves' in. I use mine for music practice mainly, and for storing away all the old psych papers and things which I may need to refer to someday. So it's not really a 'shed' shed, or a ';studio' shed, but rather a room that is somewhere between the two in spirit. There IS, however, a real, gravity defying shed in the back garden. It is gravity defying in that it is slowly being pushed over by ivy, and now stands at 10 degrees from the perpendicular, the angle changing marginally every year or so. >>Jeme -- who would really like to reserve The Mandelbrot Set as well for >>a band name. sorry - it's been done James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:34:50 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Sht Eb wrt: > Hey Fgz, > > Incidentally, if any Fgz "Fgz"?! Anything but that, please. "Fgz" reminds me of equally silly monikers, i.e. the short-lived "supergroup" (inc. Steve Howe and I don't recall who else) "GTR". Gah! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:46:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: tree time again... the latest round of permatapetree is winding up and we're about ready to get started on the next. This time the tapes are the wonderful 20 nov 1998 gig (featuring terry edwards [ex-higsons], deni bonet, mike mills and also stipey in limited capacity as human lyrics stand) as special guests. Also featured will be Tom Clark's fab 24 sept 1989 audience master. Features the never-otherwise heard RH tune "You're an Angel" and a bunch of other goodies including some nifty covers and the weird improv piece "the Band Faust." So if you're not done with the current (actually slightly moldy) tape tree, let me know so we can get this thing wrapped up. Otherwise, stand by for more tape madness. =b http://travel.to/glasshotel ps. symbols/cymbals? i think you've been trolled! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:27:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get I said: > > > > Typical first Montreal snow: Late October > > Typical final Montreal snow: Early April And Caroline Smith replied from Toronto the Good: > > Nothing like perpetuating a great Canadian myth. Yes, and that *was* nothing like ... OK, I'll come clean. Snow in Montreal typically ends *late* April, with about a 1 in 3 chance of snow in the first few days of May. Or did you mean the myth about how the army and a snow clearing crew from the tiny maritime province of Prince Edward Island had to come to the rescue of Torontonians this year? Not a word of truth to that! > > Caroline, in Toronto on a beautiful sunny day with very little snow > Ross, where the forecast high is -8C or so for the rest of the week, and more snow (but not the army) is on the way. PS: Randi's an expatriate Montrealer, so she's exempt from the ridicule that's been heaped on Toronto for their wimpiness in the face of a snowfall that would be a non-event elsewhere in the country. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:00:43 -0800 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better At 4.14 PM -0800 2/15/99, Joel Mullins wrote: I'm wondering, does it get better the >more you here it? Everyone has talked about this album so much that I >was expecting it to blow me away. And it didn't. I like it. But it >hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those >albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? I don't know, everyone on the list raves about NMH. I listened twice to Aeroplane and gave it to my nephew. Absolutely zero excitment. But what do I know, my latest discovery is a band called "Tindersticks" and given the slow pace at which I discover anything, they've probably been around for awhile. But maybe I can't give anything my full attention when I'm battling these huge racoons that seem to invade my neighborhood everynight around 10pm. Always amazes me how wildlife adapts to the urban jungle. Be Seeing You, - - Carrie - - having just chased 2 racoons away from my back deck where they were terrifying my 16 pound cat! "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:42:48 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better At 4.14 PM -0800 2/15/99, Joel Mullins wrote: >> I'm wondering, does it get better the >>more you here it? Everyone has talked about this album so much that I >>was expecting it to blow me away. And it didn't. I like it. But it >>hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those >>albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? >I don't know, everyone on the list raves about NMH. I listened twice to >Aeroplane and gave it to my nephew. Absolutely zero excitment. But what do >I know, my latest discovery is a band called "Tindersticks" and given the >slow pace at which I discover anything, they've probably been around for >awhile. I think it rounded out my top five for last year. The comment that the lead singer has an irritating voice, that the melodies don't go very far, and that some of the tunes don't stand on their own doesn't keep me from liking it. I honestly didn't want to like them. The weaker material on the CD is held up by the fact that it is successful as a complete work. It doesn't, however, surprise me that some people wouldn't like it. And just because they mention vegetables can't mean that RH fans have to love them. Tindersticks have been mentioned here before, maybe by you. I still ain't herdum (quick, run your spell checkers.) One of the great fegs of all time introduced Donne and me to the zithery of Brian Dewan while we were in Protlund, Oregano. I'm sure that it's not for everybody, but I finally got it from CD Now (well, not now, really, but well, soon, it's on back order, okay, it's finally here, but they shortened their name to CD Now.) It (the CD, Brian Dewan _Tells the Story_) is pretty cool, and it's irritating and the melodies are kind of like dark, twisted irish ballads and bluesy stuff. I'd guess he has some Scorpio in him, but he didn't treat me horribly. There is a quiet wry wit to his work, and he's a pretty amazing zitherist (distorted slide zither is cool.) Other than that, I'm trying to put kechup on my "must hear" pile. I listened to part of Joel Mullin's CD and enjoyed what I heard, but my CD player in the Tickmobile decided it was a music critic, and wouldn't let me hear the whole thing. I'll have to finish it at work. Pretty hard to beat the price. >But maybe I can't give anything my full attention when I'm battling these >huge racoons that seem to invade my neighborhood everynight around 10pm. >Always amazes me how wildlife adapts to the urban jungle. We get them too. Some of them look like bears. The thing that makes me wary of them is just how nonchalant they are. They aren't afraid of us. They just want us to get out of the way so they can get into our liquor cabinets, play their Tom Jones records, and have their way with our women (yes, and probably our men if we had them.) >Be Seeing You, >- Carrie >- having just chased 2 racoons away from my back deck where they were >terrifying my 16 pound cat! Dusty (the real tigermonkey), my very small and solid 12-pounder wants to go out and rough them up good. They walk right up to the sliding glass door and she bangs on the pane at them and makes awful noises. She would scare the hell out of me- and sometimes does- but they think she's funny. I think they are bigger and smarter than most of the boy kitties around here that she picks on for sport. I don't think I would like to see a contest between them, unless it involved chasing our neighbor's dog toward some antipodean continent. Happies, - -perhaps the jester of carrot flowers? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:10:26 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Spanish sh review A DISC AHEAD ROBYN HITCHCOCK: Storefront HItchcock (CD. Warner. USA) The old Robyn did not bestow us with a really new disc last year. In spite of his creative intermezzo, his name completely follows the present time, after the tour Jonathan Demme has made of a recited concert that the artist offered for the occasion. The tape, tribute, and adoration of Demme toward this brilliant character (frankly so freshly conserved for ten years) have been recently programmed in several film festivals and cultural circles, at the moment very distant. And also, in an opportunely commercial way, Warner published the CD version of the event, thus taking its small slice from it. The disc faithfully follows the pre-established script, with those spaces between each subject, where "the divine Robyn" cordially displays himself before the audience, narrating the stories, facts, and details that suggest the reason of the song he will play next. A classic element in the concerts, especially when he is confronting the audience face-to-face, that they glimpse through the native tongue of Robyn... as you would easily presume to be about an American reference, these introductions are not being translated in the libreto, rather lacking, that accompany the edition. Let's hope that the detail does not escape the cinematographic distributors, and they take care to conveniently subtitle the film. Robyn is allowing live accompaniment by Deni Bonet (violin) and Tim Keagan (guitar and chorus) in order to leave the rest of the instrumentation- as only the eternal duel between acoustic and electric, and the harmonica- in the hands of an acoustic and simple Hitchcock, without more help than his throat in order to please his public, who is capable of understanding him as well as himself, or perhaps better. So as not to hide our envy (you can imagine it) we finish up reflecting that RH was playing in Spain last week. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:50:08 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better > >I don't know, everyone on the list raves about NMH. I listened twice to > >Aeroplane and gave it to my nephew. Absolutely zero excitment. But what do > >I know, my latest discovery is a band called "Tindersticks" and given the > >slow pace at which I discover anything, they've probably been around for > >awhile. > > I think it rounded out my top five for last year. The comment that > the lead singer has an irritating voice, that the melodies don't > go very far, and that some of the tunes don't stand on their own > doesn't keep me from liking it. Well, I've listened to it several times now, and I definitely like it more than I did on that first listen. But it still doesn't have the effect on me that I was expecting. The comment about the singer's voice is very interesting to me. Sometimes I find his voice pretty irritating, and then other times I just love it. And I wouldn't say that the melodies don't go very far. That does seem to be the case on some songs, like Oh Comely, which just bores the hell out of me. But the melodies on In the Aeroplane Over the Sea and Two-Headed Boy are fucking great! Basically, I have a lot of conflicting opinions concerning this album. Sometimes I love it, while other times I want to give it to my nephew. But hell, I've still only heard it 4 or 5 times. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:18:59 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Elliot Smith shows Okay, I have a theory. I was just browsing on a Quasi webpage when I noticed two important things. 1) the drummer, Janet, is also the drummer for Sleater-Kinney, and 2) Quasi sometimes plays back-up for Elliot Smith. Well, I'm going to see ES on 3/9 in Dallas and on 3/10 in Austin. Then I'm seeing Sleater-Kinney in Austin on 3/11. And according to Eb, both S-K and ES are going to be in LA during the same week, as well. So, my theory is that Quasi is in fact backing ES up on these shows. Does anyone know if this is true? I've just really been wondering if ES was going to be playing by himself or with a band. Now, I'm starting to think that he'll be playing with a band. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:20:47 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better Insomnboy@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/16/99 12:02:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > skmull@swbell.net writes: > > > Basically, I have a lot of conflicting opinions > > concerning this album. Sometimes I love it, while other times I want to > > give it to my nephew. But hell, I've still only heard it 4 or 5 times. > > > Give it a few more chances. Try listening to it on headphones, that was how I > listened to it first & my initial reaction was pretty much the same as d.'s - > "f--u--u--u--c--k--!--!--!--!" I still have that reaction to it three months > after the fact. > And I especially love "Oh, Comely". Yeah, I listened to it on headphones, while sitting in a completely dark room. That's how I usually listen to CDs when I first get them. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:42:49 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: my stupid theory Well, I did some checking and it turns out that Sleater-Kinney is playing Dallas on 3/10, the same night ES will be playing in Austin. That blows a really big hole in my theory. - --Joel ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #60 ******************************