From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #59 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 15 1999 Volume 08 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- the "killer app" of endnotes was the fraudulent citation [Christopher Gro] Re: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get [amadain ] Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [S Dwarf ] RH in Mezzago, Feb 13th [Daniele Fava ] Re: Fegbooks [Michael R Godwin ] potting sheds ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] ["D B" ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [Joel Mullins ] Lunar Notes [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [Zloduska ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [Eric Loehr ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [Tom Clark ] Re: Books ["Pamplemousse" ] Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] [The Non-Prophet ] re: Neeeeeel [Eb ] Spelling goof of the week [Eb ] NMH - I hope it gets better [Joel Mullins ] Re: NMH - I hope it gets better [Eb ] Re: Apples crappy mice. [Tom Clark ] Robyn Pics [Tom Clark ] RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get ["Caroline Smith"] Re: Spelling goof of the week ["JH3" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:27:02 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: the "killer app" of endnotes was the fraudulent citation On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > do you believe in miracles? yes! Hey, we agree about the Dead Milkmen, remember? Oh, and that British guy, whatsisname ... I was just talking about him with Bayard ... damn, mind like a sieve. I'm sure he's been mentioned on the list, too. > the u.s. openly supported the taliban (and bin laden himself) until > quite recently, and quite possibly will do so again once the whole bin > laden thing blows over. Hmm! I'll look into this. (In my copious spare time, ie, when I'm supposed to be working.) > see sources for this alleged refascisisisisitification, Eddie. > (Preferrably titles or even page numbers, if you have them, not just > "check Chomsky and Zinn"). As far as I know[1] nothing of the sort > happened.> > > thought i'd already done so. but, okay. [list snipped] Yeah, you mentioned these sources before; but which of them prove that the US put the fascists back in power after WWII? (Judging by the titles, at least, a lot of these books deal with the period *before* WWII, which might be interesting but isn't what I asked.) LJ, Quail, you were in the Netherlands recently. Could you comment briefly on the US-installed fascist regime there? > on the other hand, there *were* communist internationals, and communist > manifestoes, and paris communes, & cetera prior to 1917. i'm aware that > you date the cold war from 1945, chris, but i honestly think you're > mistaken in that. I think of the Cold War as the US-Soviet struggle after WWII. This was different in both character and extent from America's previous foreign adventures. It's true that the US intervened in the Russian Revolution and Civil War, which might at first seem like the beginning of the Cold War. But it was a much smaller and less ideological intervention than people often think. The Allies first intervened in Russia in hopes of keeping them in the war against Germany, or at least preventing the Germans from capturing the war materiel the Allies had sent to Russia. (By 1917 the Allies would have supported child-molesting Satanists if they fought Germany, and would have invaded Capitalist Heaven if it allied with Germany. They couldn't have cared less what ideology Russia's rulers professed, except insofar as a democratic Russia would make for better anti-German propaganda.) After Brest-Litovsk, the Allies did work against the Bolsheviks, who were now de facto German allies, but their intervention was never large or enthusiastic. I don't think American troops ever engaged in combat with the Bolsheviks at all, though they did allow some supplies to get through to the White armies. The British, Japanese and French were a bit more active, but even they never made anything like an all-out effort to overthrow the Bolsheviks.... But I'm rambling. The point is that WWII and the post-WWII Cold War marked a major departure in US foreign policy, and I think it would be hard to apply one term, whether it's "Cold War" or "Henry" or whatever, to US foreign policy before and after the war without serious distortion. (Whether US policy in either period was evil or not is, of course, another question.) - --Chris np: Skinny Puppy, Too Dark Park ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:06:16 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get >how does that compare to winter in Chicago or New York? It sounds milder than Chicago actually. It's pretty normal here to have a few days every winter with the temperature itself below zero- December and January, the wind chill is below that much of the time, and I'm guessing it's a gustier wind than Dunedin's, although I dunno about that for sure. Generally winter goes from sometime in November to sometime in March, although snowstorms can happen on into May. It gets pretty unpredictable when you're talking about Feb. through April or so tho- this week it was 70 on Wednesday and on into Thursday afternoon when the temperature began to plunge and eventually got cold enough for snow to fall on Friday. There were very humorous pictures in the Tribune showing some people downtown on Thursday- some shivering in shorts, right next to the people who have lived in Chicago a bit longer and know you should take your coat along because after all, it's still February. Generally after that you have a period of cold rain and wind interspersed with a few teasing days of sun, which imaginative folks refer to as "spring", and then a fairly oppressive summer. In other words, I'm not particularly worried about the Dunedin weather :). Love on ya, the Alan Freed of FEG-FM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:48:22 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Happy Year of the Rabbit Train, etc. (RH content discernable by small woodland and hedgerow animals only) Tonight's Chinese New Year's Eve, so make sure you've burnt plenty of ghost money, put up new door gods, shaved your yak, taken down the Chi-mas decorations, gotten out the mah jong set, and given the house a full cleaning. Oh, and be pious fillially. Bali was rather nice. Thanks to all the Bali fegs for their generous hospitality. I saw my first fruit bat (unfortunately in a cage in a bird park) and an Atlas moth by the road. I was going to put some pics on a web-page, but our camera either got lost or stolen. The economic situation in Indonesia is pretty awful, and at Lake Batur (my first volcanic experience, too) my wife and I were mobbed by the most aggressive hawkers I've ever seen. Lost with the camera was a shot of my wife surrounded by women with piles of sarongs and t-shirts on their heads. Not all of Bali is like that, though. We mostly stayed in the village of Ubud, about an hour north of the capital Denpassar. No one was very pushy there, and it was mostly country houses, rice terraces and craft shops. There were still plenty of touts sitting around who would say "Transport?" every time you passed by. At the moment of sacrifice let no beer be spilled, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:31:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Books >>>>> "Grapefruit" == Pamplemousse writes: Grapefruit> IMHO, the best British writer at the moment is Iain Grapefruit> Banks If memory serves, Banks referes to himself as Scottish, not British. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:42:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: For Ken Sabatini, et al >>>>> "Eb" == Eb writes: Eb> Aha, so Merge signed the Music Tapes! I've got their first single. I think some fegs may like it; I know I do. Think lo-fi TMBG. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:47:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: 1929-1945 >>>>> "Ghost" == Ghost Surfer writes: Ghost> Rumour has it that they've now Ghost> split up. Could be just a rumour. It's just a rumour; NMH is basically whoever Jeff M can get to play with him. I *know* they won't be touring for a long while, though. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:03:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: RE: [Non-RH] This really pisses me off; does it you too? Well, um, thanks for all the replies. Seems like a possible answer is to mention calmly that offense is being caused. If that doesn't work, put Frusemide in their beer, and lock the bog door. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 05:31:55 PST From: "Ghost Surfer" Subject: Don't look for it.... >and guitarist Tim Keegan in a former used-clothes store facing a >New York street.> > >you know, i think this is the first mention i've seen of just what >*type* of store it had been. I thought it was a former furniture store. It's on E14th St anyway. I'll have to go check my photo's. - ----------------************************************************------------ "There are times when i can't think about the future, when all my days seem so dark and life seems cruel" - Mojave 3 & "Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) From: S Dwarf Subject: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, but..... also, i know that Trans is generally trashed, but i also remember somewhere reading it sounded a lot like Music for the Masses/Black Celebration era Depeche Mode or the first Nine Inch Nails record by someone not coming to bury it. does this sound pretty fair to anyone who knows? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:45:56 +0100 From: Daniele Fava Subject: RH in Mezzago, Feb 13th Dear Fegs, February 13 99 is a day that for sure I will always remember, because for the first time I could see a RH live in Mezzago Mezzago Bloom was very crowded: I was a bit surprised, because RH is not very weel-known here in Italy (although there is at least a mega-fine like me), put Bloom is very popular for very good music in Milano's neighbourhood. It was a good surprise hearing Soft Boys hits like Only the Stones Remain and Kingdom of Love, along with '84 and '86 gems like Autumn is your Last Chance, I Often Dream of Trains and The Lizard. I could appreciate some of my favorite songs, like Queen Elvis, Freeze, Beatiful Girl, You And the Oblivion, The Chirico Street. Perhaps I'm saying something it could seem obvious to you Fegs, but I really liked both the first part (acoustic, concluded with the Yip Song), and the second (with electric guitar, that Robyn plays wonderfully, with some bis - RH been acclaimed by the people), and Robyn's sense of humour, introducing most of the songs with some kind of anglo-italian preamble... Very good, I WAS THERE, that was great! Thanks to woj for the tour dates announce! Daniele ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:49:44 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Fegbooks On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Daniel Saunders wrote: > But 1985 is crap. I was very disappointed - I'm a fan of both Burgess and > Orwell. It starts off well, with some pretty good essays about 1984, but > it goes downhill really quickly when he unveils his own attempt at a > dystopia (which he insists on calling a "cacotopia"). Agreed. Burgess was famously keen on wierd words: I read a report the other day that when he met Jorge Luis Borges, they conversed in Anglo-Saxon... - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:04:02 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: potting sheds >There's a song on the new XTC album about this very thing - Colin's >"Fruit Nut," in which he argues that a man's sanity depends on having a >shed. Of course Arthur Jackson had two. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:09:40 PST From: "D B" Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] >Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) >From: S Dwarf >Subject: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Reply-To: S Dwarf > >does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what >neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold >Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that >Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the >scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, >but..... > >also, i know that Trans is generally trashed, but i also remember >somewhere reading it sounded a lot like Music for the Masses/Black >Celebration era Depeche Mode or the first Nine Inch Nails record by >someone not coming to bury it. does this sound pretty fair to anyone >who knows? > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Get Tonight's the Night and Harvest Moon and American Stars n Bars ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:21:47 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] D B wrote: > > >Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) > >From: S Dwarf > >Subject: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] > >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > >Reply-To: S Dwarf > > > >does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what > >neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold > >Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that > >Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the > >scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, > >but..... > > > >also, i know that Trans is generally trashed, but i also remember > >somewhere reading it sounded a lot like Music for the Masses/Black > >Celebration era Depeche Mode or the first Nine Inch Nails record by > >someone not coming to bury it. does this sound pretty fair to anyone > >who knows? Harvest Moon is my favorite, but Harvest runs a close second. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:15:02 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Lunar Notes I just read 'Lunar Notes' by Bill Harkleroad (Zoot Horn Rollo). Amazing story of how Captain Beefheart pushed the Magic Band around, starved them and bullied them, then took all the credit. The Captain even talked Zoot's mum into paying the rent for the house where the band lived! Particularly nasty description of how Don would select one of the band as 'culprit' of the week to be picked on and criticised until it was someone else's turn to be the victim. Surprisingly, Zoot still retains a lot of respect and affection for Don. Weird story - I'm really looking forward to that new Beefheart CD set! - - Mike Godwin PS to dlang: Great to hear that tape, specially the version of 'Rolling and Tumbling'! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:24:14 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] S Dwarf wrote: >does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what >neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold >Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that >Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the >scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, >but..... Harvest and Harvest Moon are both excellent and "essential", but Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere is without a doubt one of my most favorite records, and you must have it. (add excessive punctuation here) Come on, man, it has "Cinnamon Girl" on it! And "Down By The River", and "Cowgirl In The Sand"!! Live Rust is pretty good too. my two korunas, ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] As I started to answer this by dividing NY output into categories, I discovered that a lot of stuff doesn't fit anywhere; generally, though, there's a bunch of quieter more or less acoustic stuff (Harvest, Harvest Moon, Comes A Time, Neil Young, After the Goldrush, Unplugged); there's a bunch of more or less electric guitar stuff (EKTIN, Ragged Glory, Arc/Weld, Live Rust, Mirror Ball, Zuma); there's a bunch of stuff that is all over the map (Trans -- computer vocals, synths., Old Ways --very country, Everybody's Rockin' -- fifties); and there's a bunch of stuff that is sort of between the acoustic and electric (Sleeps with angels, Time Fades Away, On the Beach, Tonight's the Night, Rust Never Sleeps, American Stars'n'Bars). Based on what you have, I'd get Tonight's the Night and EKTIN next. My favorites are EKTIN (Everybody Knows...), After the Goldrush, Tonight's the Night, Zuma, Comes a Time, On the Beach, Rust Never Sleeps, Sleeps With Angels, Harvest, Harvest Moon, but I like almost all of em -- I'd avoid Old Ways and Everybody's Rockin' though. (Maybe Trans too) I'd also wait on Landing on Water, Life, Reactor, Lucky thirteen. On the Beach, Time Fades Away, Hawks and Doves, American Stars'n'Bars, Journey Through the Past, and Reactor are all unavailable anywhere on CD. Trans, Old Ways, and Everybody's Rockin I think may be only avail. on import at the moment. Hope this helps a bit. Eric On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, S Dwarf wrote: > does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what > neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold > Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that > Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the > scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, > but..... > > also, i know that Trans is generally trashed, but i also remember > somewhere reading it sounded a lot like Music for the Masses/Black > Celebration era Depeche Mode or the first Nine Inch Nails record by > someone not coming to bury it. does this sound pretty fair to anyone > who knows? > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:54:15 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] I have yet to see Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man", but I understand Neil did the soundtrack to that and it's pretty killer. btw, Neil's long rumored career retrospective is apparently about to be unleashed. Well, the first 12 volumes or so... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:05:47 +0000 From: "Pamplemousse" Subject: Re: Books > >>>>> "Grapefruit" == Pamplemousse writes: > > Grapefruit> IMHO, the best British writer at the moment is Iain > Grapefruit> Banks > > If memory serves, Banks referes to himself as Scottish, not British. > That doesn't stop him being the best British writer tho, surely? In fact, both my current favourite 'British' writers are Scottish, Mr. Welsh, the trainspotter being the other. - -- Rob np The Best of James nr Count Zero - William Gibson - -- Rob Collingwood Rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:15:25 -0800 (PST) From: The Non-Prophet Subject: Re: Neil Young advice [no Robyn] On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, S Dwarf wrote: > does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what > neil young records are more essential. Don't forget the stuff with Buffalo Springfield. _Again_ is probably their best. However, the double LP eponymously titled collection is probably a good starting point (don't know if it's available on CD, though). I see it around the record stores quite a bit. _Retrospective_ is good, too. BTW-_Trans_ has a really cool version of "Mr. Soul" on it. Check it out for that reason, if for no other. Cheers! - -Glen- )+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net )+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:46:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: Neeeeeel S Dwarf: >does anyone out there in fegsville have any particular advice on what >neil young records are more essential. i already have After the Gold >Rush, Freedom, Decade, Rust Never Sleeps, and Unplugged. i know that >Harvest and Everybody Knows This is Nowhere seem to somewhat be the >scientifically determined answers for what i should maybe go for next, >but..... Well, there's a bunch of Neil records I haven't heard (uhh...Hawks & Doves, American Stars & Bars, Landing on Water, Journey Through the Past, Life...), but I'd recommend Buffalo Springfield Again and Buffalo Springfield (both by Buffalo Springfield, of course), Deja Vu (CSNY), Ragged Glory, Zuma, Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, Harvest Moon, Sleeps with Angels, Time Fades Away, Mirror Ball and Arc-Weld. A few of the "classic" Neil albums just don't turn me on. I bought Harvest once, and really couldn't get into it. He's such a wimp on that album -- he just sounds like every other early '70s folksy singer-songwriter, trying to get a ballad on pop radio. Also, I can't quite embrace Tonight's the Night. It's CERTAINLY harrowing and powerful and all that, but it seems like the ambience/backstory of the album is a lot more compelling than the songs themselves ("Tired Eyes" and "Tonight's the Night" being glaring exceptions). It's really a spotty album if you ask me, and the singing/playing is depressingly lifeless (sure, that's the point...but it's still LIFELESS!). I also can't quite get into Rust Never Sleeps for some reason. There are about four great songs, but the others were a bit too slick for me. And without a doubt, I grew waaaay sick of "Hey Hey My My" years ago. Additionally: I bought On the Beach once, and ended up trading it back, eventually. Also a bit too wimpy. I also once had a copy of the Dead Man soundtrack, but the "music" is a shapeless drag minus the accompanying film. I have a few other Neil Young albums, but I wouldn't recommend those as strongly. Eb PS The new Sebadoh album isn't too impressive, I'm afraid. Definitely a step down. I'd say that I like it almost EXACTLY as much as Storefront Hitchcock, which isn't much of a recommendation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:15:15 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Spelling goof of the week From the Chalkhills list, which I've recently joined (temporarily) in order to silently giggle at hyperbolic Apple Venus blathering. :) >A lot of people don't realize that there are NO symbols at all >on Peter Gabriel's third solo album until it's pointed out to them, and >what a great idea that was. Apparently, they were physically removed >from the drumset by Mr. Gabriel during the recording, and the drummers >told to just do without. Hee hee. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:18 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: NMH - I hope it gets better Hey, I got $20 from my mommy for V-Day, so I went shopping at the local record stores today looking for that Quasi album. I've heard you guys mention them, and I heard some sound clips a few nights ago. They sound really cool, so I'm dieing to get a CD. Anyway, I was unable to find it anywhere. So, instead, I bought Elliot Smith's self-titled album and In The Aeroplane Over the Sea. I haven't listened to the ES yet, but I've listened to the NMH once through. I'm wondering, does it get better the more you here it? Everyone has talked about this album so much that I was expecting it to blow me away. And it didn't. I like it. But it hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:26:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: NMH - I hope it gets better >I've listened to the NMH once through. I'm wondering, does it get better the >more you here it? Everyone has talked about this album so much that I >was expecting it to blow me away. And it didn't. I like it. But it >hasn't struck me as anything spectacular. Anyway, is it one of those >albums that begins to grow on you after a few listens? I was practically bashing my head into the wall in orgasmic euphoria, the first time I heard it. Speaking of spelling goofs ;), Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:27:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Apples crappy mice. On 2/13/99 6:17 AM, dlang wrote: >My only doubts about buying new being the crappy keyboard and stupid mouse >they ship with them now, Tom, tell Mr Jobs to fix this ! He stopped taking my calls... The upside being that the mice are USB (bow, bow, wave) and there is a plethora of inexpensive, more ergonomically friendly USB mice out there. Some of them even have cute little clitoris' on them*! - -tc *The first time my wife saw one of those mice with the funky roller wheel in the middle, she developed a devious grin across her mouth... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:20:07 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Robyn Pics http://www.bullwinkle.org/rocketweb/rocket_sxsw.html Local college DJ Rocket J. Squirrel's SXSW page shows a few pics of RH. Even has a link! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:25:13 -0500 From: "Caroline Smith" Subject: RE: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Ross Overbury > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:51 PM > To: James Dignan > Cc: The feg man cometh > Subject: Re: climate is what you expect; weather is what you get > > > > [tough winter tales snipped] > > Dunedin? > New York City? > > Ha! > > Typical first Montreal snow: Late October > Typical final Montreal snow: Early April > > Last time we got a good snowstorm this winter the drifts were > just below the > top of my minivan. Average depth was about knee-high. I built a > snow fort > for the kids with 5-foot high walls. A freak thaw levelled it by > suppertime > the next day. > > > Yours from Canada's Deep South, > > Parka guy > > > > > PS: I do hope Brett Cooper's not reading this. > > Now freezing: -9C > > Nothing like perpetuating a great Canadian myth. Caroline, in Toronto on a beautiful sunny day with very little snow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:09:49 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Spelling goof of the week Eb writes: >>From the Chalkhills list, which I've recently joined (temporarily) in order >to silently giggle at hyperbolic Apple Venus blathering. :) Hmmm, I haven't posted anything to Chalkhills for over a year, but now that I know Eb is a subscriber... >>A lot of people don't realize that there are NO symbols at all >>on Peter Gabriel's third solo album until it's pointed out to them, and >>what a great idea that was. Apparently, they were physically removed >>from the drumset by Mr. Gabriel during the recording, and the drummers >>told to just do without. Haven't you ever played drums, Eb? He's referring to the runic pictograms that drummers put just inside the rim of each drum to keep the evil spirits away. (The most evil is the dreaded Petercrissebub, foul demon of Kissolalabooty.) Y'know, I was totally floored when I heard about this - no wonder Gabriel ended up using drum machines exclusively. I doubt any drummer would play for him after something like that. I certainly wouldn't! Then again, I haven't played drums in years. (Just like Dave Grohl, I switched to the guitar because our lead singer died and I wasn't getting enough attention.) And stop trying to make fun of XTC fans! We are not monsters! WE ARE HUUUUUUMAN BEINGS! John "Okay, so maybe I'm slightly monstrous" Hedges ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #59 ******************************