From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #28 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 08 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #27 [edoxtato@ssax.com] Re: Greybeard loon responds ... [MARKEEFE@aol.com] 40, 000 fegs couldnt make me change my mind [LORDK@library.phila.gov] The god-damned plane has crashed into the mountain! [Capuchin ] Trivia [steve ] Re: stepping out toward the glory [Ross Overbury ] Re: Trivia ["Jay Lyall" ] Re: stepping out toward the glory [Eric Loehr ] Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." [Zloduska ] ? [Eb ] Re: 40, 000 fegs couldnt make me change my mind [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Invisible History [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Re: Trivia ["Bret" ] Re: ? [Eric Loehr ] Re: ? [Capuchin ] I Met Robyn Hitchcock. [Capuchin ] Re: ? [overbury@cn.ca] Re: Trivia [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:51:27 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #27 >> funny you should say this, because i've been trying to think of movies >> that have a perfect final shot. I been thinking about this one... and my favourite perfect shot is probably the end of "Time Bandits". I know it's just a reverse film of the opening shot, but I still think it's cool. >Has anyone seen Henry Fool? It has a perfect final shot. The movie >gets a little slow in parts, but the final shot just leaves you feeling >so good. I think the music has a lot to do with it. By the way, Hal >Hartley wrote, directed, produced, and wrote and performed the score. >If you haven't seen it, go rent it now. >It's pretty damn cool. I saw Henry Fool last summer. It was... well... 50% of me says it stunk and 50% of me says it was great. It had great performances, good dialogue, and it was well shot. However, it was too long. By the middle of the third act, I was really uncomfortable from sitting for so long and there was still a 1/2 hr to go! And what was that bogus tacked-on subplot with the mom? Her entire character could have been eliminated and the story would have been tightened up considerably. I think one of the backer's wives got her wish of being an actress... A friend of mine in the UK sent me a copy of a Robyn interview on GLR that was done on (I think) 28th November, 1998. It's a promo for "Storefront", but it's a fun interview. If it hasn't already been posted, I'll take my meager typing skills and transcribe it, Eb permitting. Tony, I haven't forgotten about you. I'll get your stuff in the mail next week! Look after yerselves... - -Ed, Doc, thrilled to hear there's a critics corner on the web where lists can be posted and swapped... like little old ladies and recipes... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:44:16 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Greybeard loon responds ... In a message dated 99-01-28 08:46:17 EST, you write: << You know, I think the "eligibility" depends a bit on the terminology. If someone asked me for "The Year's Most Important Releases," then I'd probably mention the live Dylan. But if it's "The Best of 1998"? Nope. There's a slant, an implication in that choice of language. You're being asked for what was new and exciting about the Class of 1998, NOT what was dug out of label archives. If you cite compilations and box sets in response, you're failing to answer the question. Probably because you don't have a better answer. And lo and behold, if you check which critics cite stuff like the Dylan album on their lists, they're usually Greybeard Loons with little knowledge of contemporary cutting-edge sounds. >> Well, I've definitely got to side with Eb on this one. I mean, there's nothing 1998-ish about the Dylan release, except for the fact that it was finally officially issued in that year. Which is to say, the only thing 1998-ish about it is the copyright sate on the back. To compare it to other albums that were recorded in or around 1998 is both unfair and totally meaningless. It would be like comparing "Touch of Evil" to "Saving Private Ryan." With the former of these releases, one already has a good sense of the historical importance of the film, whereas, with the latter, one can only guess at what its importance might be 30-something years from now. And, because one can only guess at this, it's most important to see how it stacks up against its contemporaries, like "Thin Red Line" and "Waterboy." How does Spielberg's 1998 filmmaking style compare with the Coen Brothers' (for instance; for the love of god, and as much as I love their movies, don't start talking about the Coen Brothers again!)? Now, if you want to try to compare something like "Saving Private Ryan" and "Touch of Evil" within a category of 'greatest movies of all time,' then that's another thing altogether, having nothing really to do with what year the movies came out. And the same is true with, say, the Dylan CDs vs. Beck's "Mutations." Maybe the Dylan makes the Top 10 of all time and Beck ends up at #1,263. That's cool. Whatever. But to compare these albums within the context of '1998 releases' just doesn't seem to serve any purpose to me. Why not throw in all the albums that you happened to hear for the first time in 1998, regardless of their release date? That would make just as much sense to me. If you're going to include Dylan in the list of 1998 releases, then you should also include, I don't know, "Best of Sister Sledge" or a 1970 recording of Mahler's "Synphony #5," if you happened to have heard those for the first time last year. Wow. I had no idea I was going to ramble on and on like that. Basically, I think you might as well just come out say, "Nothing good and new came out in 1998 and all we have to look forward to are rereleases (or first time issues) of studd record 30 years ago." Well, I just don't think it's true. 1998 wasn't a *great* year for new releases, but there was some good stuff, and there will continue to be good stuff in the future. Gosh darn it! - ------Michael K., who probably chooses his battles poorly, but at least he'll fight them to the bitter end! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:57:21 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: 40, 000 fegs couldnt make me change my mind Me age is showin again. Yes, the first Traffic album was about as wonderful as such stuff gets. It nursed me thru a strum und drangish early adolescence, and Im almost afraid to relisten--would it still sound so good? Even their other albums had moments--tossed admist the "we're genuises so we can fart and its art" attitude. My rec for a first read of Williams is "The Greater Trumps", followed by "War in heaven"--since these two involve Tarot and The Grail, pretty accessable topics these days. What I really reallylove is his Taliesin poetry and his, critiscism aint the word, interpretations of English Poetry and Dante. His views on True vr false Romantisism are pretty cool. And he lived them as part and parcel of his take on Christianity, which is even cooler. Yes, he was the 3rd Inkling, apoint I usually dont point out cause few people are as cool as Godwin in realizing just how complex Lewis was. they say-- oh christian guy-- and go to sleep. And yes ,Lewis ws very much in the stream of Renaissance Christian magic, or as he would put it--deep magic. Having read almost every medieval and renaissance text published at the time, he didnt see it as occult per say, but as a more satisfying ,holistic(thou he didnt use that word)world-view. thats whats comes thu in Narnia, its realer than our real world. I dont mean to be disingenous--but who is sheldon Vanauben? As a librarian, all I can say Eddie is that you are a very, very naughty feg , and if I ever meat you , well--you will have a prize to pay. Oh--and the end of Shakes in Luv, its not a grassy field, but endless golden sands which Paltrow walks . a friend told me its from the outer banks, which is somewhere down south, I believe. UTM K(whose nickname in hi-sckull was Lord Kayburger, luckilly I married out of the burg....(oh stop it silly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:16:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: The god-damned plane has crashed into the mountain! On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > oh by the way, let me take this time to point out that, while the lyrics > committee was(/is?) frightfully comradely, and monumentally a lot of > fucking fun, it wasn't, strictly speaking, a consensus aexercise. that > is to say, final arbite rested with capuch'n, and capuch'n only. NOT > NOT NOT saying he was a bully about it, or that he didn't give our input > a LOT of thought and probably much more response than it deserved > (especially mine.) not saying that at all. but i *am* saying that > jeme's all mixed up on the lyrics to Vyrna Knowl, which fact you > wouldn't learn from simply accessing the lyrics engine. indeed, you > might come away with the opposite impression. I'm less tyrannical than eddie portrays me. Hey, I'm always open to suggestions... but eddie... come on. No one leapt to your defense for the Vyrna lyrics. Remember, you're Mr. Beads-and-Fish as well as Perspect-Orbs. (I know that was a low blow, but did you see how many times he called me "hippie" in this post?) > um, is this something different from the LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK > FESTIVAL rekkid? cambridge and bath are two separate entities, are they > not? He means there has been no sign of the live Egyptians album in the record stores of Bath... not the live in Bath record. > and couldn't stand browsing at such a monstrosity, so I hit the > newstand.> > what was wrong with the oldstand, you fucking hippie? for god's sake, > what was wrong with the oldstand?? Why would I want to read the olds? I get much more relevant information from the news. (Doesn't Harper's sell oldspapers?) > > my dad got one for Xianmas, so i took the laserdisc player (jeme insert > joke about how far behind-the-times i am here) over, and we watched The > Big Lebowski and Lawrence O' Arabia. pretty nifty. Fancy! Your dad got a $13000 television for Christmas? See, it's not the Geo, eddie... it's shit like that that gets you called a Limosine Liberal. > nothin'? nothin' at all? remember we had that thread about the most > quotable movies of all times? i think it was determined that Repo Man > and Raising Arizona were probably the top two, probably not in that > order. well, i'm slowly coming to the realization that The Big Lebowski > perhaps trumps them all. I'm probably going to have to agree with you. > same day as Titanic (Christmas Day 1997)> > Titanic opened the *friday before* christmas, you fucking hippie! the > fucking *FRIDAY BEFORE*! Not here... I don't think so... no. Did it? > > shortly after The Postman had been released, i posted asking if anyone > had seen it, because i wanted to know how tom petty was in it. no one > responded, possibly because no one had seen it. now that we know you > have seen it, cher hippie, how was tom petty in it? Tom Petty's part is very small even though he has huge billing. In fact, I think Daniel von Bargen's (am I the only one that thinks he looks just like Max Gail?) part is much larger and he has less billing. > > i was about the time of Bull Durham and Field Of Dreams. i remember > liking Dances With Wolves quite a bit when it came out, but on a hunch, > i'd probably not like it too much if i were to watch it today. at least > he takes risks. you can give him that much. Yup. And The Postman was risky. Oh, hey... I'm going to mention this one more time, I think, in a post responding to two others... but then I should be done. > > are you sure that it did? i thought i saw it on some list of the year's > biggest bombs? It was a perceived bomb, but it had rocking openning week stuff. It was just shit. It made heaps of money anyway. That happens. It profitted, yes... I mean, it made its money back. It wasn't a great investment, however. > reminds me of APOLLO 18. they've got that suite of 666 songs that are, > like, two seconds each. and you're supposed to put your cd player on > jumble-play method, and it reveals something new and wonderful each > time. i've never done that, lazy son of bitch that i am. There are only 21 of them. From about two to six seconds. I listen to it on shuffle all the time. Oftentimes, I'll put it in the third disc tray on my changer and get little fingertips between tracks by other folks... but it sure makes for a lot of changing of disc. > oh man, i'd give just about anything for you to fill up a tape or three > of him doing that! surreptitiously, of course. i mean, i dig the > *concept* of cinema verite and all. but somehow i'm skeptical. so, > best if he didn't know you were taping, i think. you could borrow > jonesie's d6. (i'm so awfully good at loaning out others' equipment. > guess that's the fascist in me. no, wait, that's the communard in me. > whatever. just borrow lobstie's d6 and go do this thing for me, won't > you?) I'll think about it! He's right beside me. Sometimes it's really funny... sometimes it's just annoying. He often does this in a Beavis voice. Should this have just gone to eddie? Probably. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:54:30 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: stepping out toward the glory On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Bayard wrote: > so i was walking by our office fish tank, and i saw a goldfish swimming > backwards. is this possible? And this morning, one of the goldfish was dead. Coincidence? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 20:24:30 -0600 From: steve Subject: Trivia There is a ballot in the Fort Worth Weekly today for their annual local music awards. Among the nominees for best song is "I Met Robyn Hitchcock and Nobody Cares But Me" by Go Metric USA. I know nothing about the band except that they're also nominated for best "pop rock" group. Think I'll check the local groups bin at the used CD store tomorrow. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:20:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: stepping out toward the glory On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Bayard wrote: > > so i was walking by our office fish tank, and i saw a goldfish > swimming > backwards. is this possible? > > And this morning, one of the goldfish was dead. Coincidence? > It's not the one who swam backwards who died, right? What was the name of that movie, "Gaslight"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:38:06 -0600 From: "Jay Lyall" Subject: Re: Trivia http://www.gometricusa.com/images/index/sitops/indec4.html - ------------------------------------------------ Jay Lyall - Houston, Texas The human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. - -----Original Message----- From: steve To: Fegmaniax Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: Trivia >There is a ballot in the Fort Worth Weekly today for their annual local >music awards. Among the nominees for best song is "I Met Robyn Hitchcock >and Nobody Cares But Me" by Go Metric USA. I know nothing about the band >except that they're also nominated for best "pop rock" group. Think I'll >check the local groups bin at the used CD store tomorrow. > >- Steve > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:53:16 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: stepping out toward the glory On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Bayard wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Bayard wrote: > > > so i was walking by our office fish tank, and i saw a goldfish swimming > > backwards. is this possible? > > And this morning, one of the goldfish was dead. Coincidence? > That depends...was it the same fish? Are you implying that it was fishy suicide? (and does swimming backwards for extended periods of time necessarily cause death in fish? Perhaps it was just stunned?) Or that the other fish got tired of seeing this smartass swimming backwards and did 'im in, perhaps by bringing it to the surface and holding its gills above the water? And what about the watered-down blood stains on the little plastic shipwreck in the bottom of the tank? And had one o'nt cross beams gone owt askew on treddle? "No one expects a sort of Spanish" Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:22:23 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." Joel Mullins wrote: >Has anyone seen Henry Fool? It has a perfect final shot. The movie >gets a little slow in parts, but the final shot just leaves you feeling >so good. I think the music has a lot to do with it. By the way, Hal >Hartley wrote, directed, produced, and wrote and performed the score. >If you haven't seen it, go rent it now. >It's pretty damn cool. Yeah, except don't take your mother to see this movie. *I* did, expecting a pretty tame yet "arty" flick to impress her with (she had never seen anything Non-Hollywoodian before), but in the opening mintues of the film, are two trashy lovebirds doing the nasty, quite nastily, amid groans and filthy dumpsters. "You took your *mother* to see this movie?" she said. Then later on, naked buttocks, scatological humor, and couch-rape of a prosaic old mother. Afterwards though, she enjoyed it and remarked, "That was...different." ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:35:43 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: [Fwd: Lovitt Newsletter] I just received this from Lovitt Records and thought I'd pass it on in case any of you Jason Falkner fans were interested. By the way, the first paragraph is referring to a recent 7". > The Jason Falkner repress will also be in next week. The limited edition > green wax are almost gone via preorders. If you want one, we suggest > ordering in the next week. They are $3.50ppd > > Some big news, we are doing the new Jason Falkner LP. It should be out by > the end of Feb and will have two extra songs not on the CD and will have > different artwork than the CD. The pressing will be limited so watch the > web page for ordering details. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:00:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: ? And how will YOU celebrate Claudine Longet's birthday today? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:50:01 -0800 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Re: 40, 000 fegs couldnt make me change my mind Lord K spake... > Oh--and the end of Shakes in Luv, its not a grassy field, but endless golden > sands > which Paltrow walks . a friend told me its from the outer banks, which is > somewhere down south, I believe. Actually, it's somewhere up north :) Mike (Florida) R. __________________________________________ Sent using WebInbox. "Your email gateway." Check us out at http://www.webinbox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:10:09 -0800 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Invisible History For any of you that don't have a copy of the "Invisible History" disc, Intergalactic Garage listed a few copies in their recent email...write 'em at igg@igg.com MikeRunion > OK, here's the newest!! 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Check us out at http://www.webinbox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:37:25 -0600 From: "Bret" Subject: Re: Trivia >There is a ballot in the Fort Worth Weekly today for their annual local >music awards. Among the nominees for best song is "I Met Robyn Hitchcock >and Nobody Cares But Me" by Go Metric USA. I know nothing about the band >except that they're also nominated for best "pop rock" group. Think I'll >check the local groups bin at the used CD store tomorrow. yeah, the song's pretty funny...............Josh plays it quite a bit.......(KDGE) - --Bret ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:47:27 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: ? On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > And how will YOU celebrate Claudine Longet's birthday today? > > Eb > > (sorry -- I can't resist) Shoot a skier? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:04:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: ? On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Eric Loehr wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > > And how will YOU celebrate Claudine Longet's birthday today? > (sorry -- I can't resist) > Shoot a skier? Man, if you hadn't said it, I would have (or Tom). Me. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: I Met Robyn Hitchcock. http://www.mitchart.com/sounds/robyn.rm Enjoy, kids. Someone going to get me a full length MP3 of this thing? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:23:53 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: ? > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > > > And how will YOU celebrate Claudine Longet's birthday today? > Eric answered: > Shoot a skier? 1) Kill a spider. 2) Whisper! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Trivia On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, steve wrote: > There is a ballot in the Fort Worth Weekly today for their annual local > music awards. Among the nominees for best song is "I Met Robyn Hitchcock > and Nobody Cares But Me" by Go Metric USA. I know nothing about the band > except that they're also nominated for best "pop rock" group. Think I'll > check the local groups bin at the used CD store tomorrow. Does anyone else think that the chorus sounds like that weird refrain in Brimful of Asha? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #28 ******************************