From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #27 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 28 1999 Volume 08 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: "uli kunkel? her co-star in the beaver picture?" [Eb ] Re: stepping out toward the glory [amadain ] Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." [Joel Mullins ] Free CD offer..... [GlamMonst@aol.com] Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." [Joel Mullins ] RE: Under the Marcy ["Partridge, John" ] Re: stepping out toward the glory ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: did somebody say ["Capitalism Blows" ] We Wanna Know... ["Karen Reichstein" ] Re: Evidence of the existence of God (no Robyn) [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: it's perfect! cut and print... [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] Re: "uli kunkel? her co-star in the beaver picture?" [steve ] Greybeard loon responds ... [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Under the Marcy [Michael R Godwin ] War is heck! [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Greybeard loon responds ... [Eb ] Re: War is heck! [Michael R Godwin ] Film thoughts [Richard Plumb at NTAC ] Did somebody say Bill Hicks wasn't as funny as he *should* be? [VIV LYON ] listserv Q (RH factor zero) [Bayard ] Re: did somebody say [Christopher Gross ] Re: Under the Mercy [Jean Katherine Rossner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:48:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: "uli kunkel? her co-star in the beaver picture?" Cousin Eddie: >would stop blathering about the Coens> > >i was going to post this even *before* eb's latest slander upon coens >almighty. honest, i was. No no no...it's "even Eb," not "even before Eb." ;) (OK, back to talk about how cool Terry Gilliam, Jim Jarmusch, "Blade Runner" and Alex Cox are, etc. etc. etc....) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:51:12 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." Exotica's a damned fine movie. but you've got The Adjuster *way* underrated on your web page, michael. just in case you were wondering. also, egoyan fans will definitely want to check out Calendar, if you can find it. he made this one between Adjuster and Exotica, but it's more like a little side-project. only about 70 minutes long, if i remember, and didn't get much of a theatrical run at all. oh, yeah. gotta agree. especially effective in that the credit roll comes at the beginning of the picture, so that the shot of the lorry driving away *is*, literally, the last thing you see. http://leb.net/iac/ "As we often see in US foreign policy, other nations' attempts to defend themselves from US attacks are defined as aggression." --Jake Sexton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: stepping out toward the glory so i was walking by our office fish tank, and i saw a goldfish swimming backwards. is this possible? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:39:52 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: stepping out toward the glory >so i was walking by our office fish tank, and i saw a goldfish swimming >backwards. is this possible? I don't know. Did you know that there is a fish called "Sarcastic Fringehead"? I saw it at the Shedd Aquarium. It does look rather snarly and snaggle-toothed. Soliciting opinions on the following: Those of you who have heard the song "Walter Carlos" on the album "Little Red Songbook"- did you find it very offensive, and if so, why? I'm writing an article about the fracas for an on-line zine. Your opinion won't necessarily be quoted or anything (if it is, I'll ask you first and send you a finished copy before submitting it to the zine in question), I am just trying basically to gauge as many reactions as I can against the ones I've already seen, to get a feel for the range of opinion out there. Please write to me privately so we don't clog up the list. Thanks! Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:09:56 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > > Exotica's a damned fine movie. I saw this movie, but I was not at all impressed. I think I was just disappointed that there was no nudity. Maybe I should see it again sometime when I'm not just looking for some nakedness. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:48:59 EST From: GlamMonst@aol.com Subject: Free CD offer..... Hello fegs....I'm new to the list and just wanted to say hi and let any Hitchcock fans know that if your into Robyn, Beatles, Jellyfish and other such related bands...there is a FREE CD Demo available of a band called "Shecky".....it's loaded with great harmonies and very Hitchcock-like lyrics and melodies......The actual album should be released in a few weeks....if you want one...just blast us your name and address and we'll send you a copy.......just email Glammonst@aol.com... Peace, Tiny. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:43:13 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: "no, i *do* mind. the dude minds." Eb wrote: > > >Capitalism Blows wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Exotica's a damned fine movie. > > > >I saw this movie, but I was not at all impressed. I think I was just > >disappointed that there was no nudity. Maybe I should see it again > >sometime when I'm not just looking for some nakedness. > > What the hell? That had LOTS of nudity! I don't remember there being an actual nudity. If there was LOTS, then I can't see how I possibly could have missed it. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:09:29 -0800 From: "Partridge, John" Subject: RE: Under the Marcy K said: > Under the Mercy--which is a darn poetic phrase -comes from the writer > Charles Williams who wrote trippy, stilted, surreal, old-fashioned, > kalidescopic,turgid, and basically undescribable "occult thrillers" > before and during WWII. A definite cult figure--he possesed Is this the third member of the Inklings trinity (C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolien, and ?Charles Williams?)? If so, which of his books would be the most accessible to someone who dug Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:12:21 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: stepping out toward the glory you don't believe your own eyes? had you partaken of any "reefer"? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:20:20 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: did somebody say once upon a time we had a fireworks war in the back woods. the teams were: me and my brother on the ground, and two friends in the tree fort. my bro' had ingeniously developed a bottle-rocket gun by stopping up a section of pipe in one end. then he'd light the bottle rocket, simply drop it into the pipe, et voila! had several seconds to aim it at a desired target. despite the bottle-rocket gun, they were really getting the best of us. just taking it to us in a big way. until, more out of desperation than anything, i lit a smoke-bomb, and lobbed it up into the tree fort. the fort had a "front" door, and a "back" door, which led onto a balcony. other than that, it was pretty well enclosed. which is why they had been routing us up to that point, i suppose. but it was also their undoing, as they got thouroughly smoked out, and immediately raised the white flag! (ok, i don't remember there being an actual, physical white flag. but they *did* surrender right on the spot.) looking back, i can't believe how stupid we were. but, mercy! (er, marcy!) that were fun! he's funny, but not as funny as he *should* be. i don't know. i can't really explain it. http://leb.net/iac/ "As we often see in US foreign policy, other nations' attempts to defend themselves from US attacks are defined as aggression." --Jake Sexton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:38:32 PST From: "Karen Reichstein" Subject: We Wanna Know... So Mr. Franz and I were out last night, sipping brews, and the inevitable Eddie topic came up. We must know. Eddie, just how much time do you spend in the library? You have a huge, detailed web page, and you post lengthy responses to the feg list fairly frequently. If you don't have a computer at home, just how much time are you spending in the library typing away? Do the librarians get mad at you? Has a librarian kicked your ass yet? Curiously, Karen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:46:38 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: Evidence of the existence of God (no Robyn) At 9.48 AM -0700 1/27/99, Bayard wrote: >whatever happened to that Speed Racer movie starring Charlie Sheen? Hey, whatever happened to that "Prisoner" movie starring Kevin Costner (gawd I hate the guy) as No. 6??? Be Seeing You, - - Carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:03:50 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: My work has been called extremely vaginal. At 10.23 AM -0700 1/27/99, Capuchin wrote: >Oh, and Shakespeare In Love... didn't it end with a shot of a field of >grass leading up to a forest wall? That was a little incongruous to me. The final shot of the Russian writer and the house from his childhood inside the ruined gothic cathedral with no roof at the end of "Nostalgia" was magnificient! Stunning. Yet another brilliant Tarkovsky film. (And that's a great way to spend 3 hours!) >Which brings us to our next topic. >I watched The Postman. Sure it had some sappy shit. Sure it had a kind >of simplistic and predictable plot. But why the hell did it just >disappear? I mean, it was pretty good. It was kind of smart and >interesting. It has an IMPORTANT THEME (that communication is what holds >society together... that free and expansive communication networks end >tyrrany and promote peace) that is relevant to our time. So why did this >fail and shitty stupid sappy predictable boring old Titanic live forever >and The Postman die? Ugh, here we go. Kevin Costner! He'd kill anything (except baseball movies). And a very bad screenplay based on a great book. They left out so much of what made the book entertaining and thought provoking and very plausable about how humans might interact in a po-apo (thanks Michael) age. This is one of the very few films I walked out on. And I mean very few. (E.T. was another but everyone knows how much I hate Spielberrg drivel.) Read the book. Please. But don't listen to me - I absolutely loved "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and found only the lack of more passages from the book being read as the only flaw. And everyone knows how badly that film got panned!!! Gosh, guess I'm back into feg life, finally. Be Seeing You, - - Carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:13:59 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Evidence of the existence of God (no Robyn) >At 9.48 AM -0700 1/27/99, Bayard wrote: >>whatever happened to that Speed Racer movie starring Charlie Sheen? > >Hey, whatever happened to that "Prisoner" movie starring Kevin Costner >(gawd I hate the guy) as No. 6??? > >Be Seeing You, >- Carrie Kevin Costner was a *very* early choice for Number Six. For the past couple of years, the choice has remained pretty much unanomous in favor of Mel Gibson. Another idea (one that seems much more realistic) was to cast Ralph Fiennes. Answers are a burden... Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:26:22 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: "uli kunkel? her co-star in the beaver picture?" At 3.40 PM -0700 1/27/99, Capitalism Blows wrote: >by the way, today i saw a guy holding a sign that said: "get Hot, get >Cold, or get Spewed," and it was purportedly from Revelations, 3:16. The SF Chronicle headline today: "Survey Results: Muni Bites" I kid you not. A newspaper headline. OK, met my posting limit for the day. I think i'll go pet the cat. Be Seeing You, - - Carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:19:18 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: it's perfect! cut and print... On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:36:49 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >> funny you should say this, because i've been trying to think of movies >> that have a perfect final shot. > >Has anyone seen Henry Fool? It has a perfect final shot. The movie >gets a little slow in parts, but the final shot just leaves you feeling >so good. I think the music has a lot to do with it. By the way, Hal >Hartley wrote, directed, produced, and wrote and performed the score. >If you haven't seen it, go rent it now. >It's pretty damn cool. > >Joel I think "True Stories" final shot, with the kid playing soccer in a street while "city of dreams" plays, is perfect. It's also the best thing about the movie...what WAS David Byrne thinking? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:20:19 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: quipp On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:36:49 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >"(We can) Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >unknown my ass.... >______________________________________________________ luther ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:48:03 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "well dude, we just don't know." you are correct: way too much. fuck. the librarians are about as excitable as day-old cheese-whiz. i would *love* for the just *one* of the librarians to pull out a whuppin' stick and apply it to any one of the screaming fucking brats that "animate" the library "milieu" during any given minute of any given hour of any given library "business day." you hear what i'm sayin'? i'd be on my feet starting the fucking "wave" around the perimeter of the library. and i *despise* the fucking "wave." in fact, back when i used to attend baseball games, i invented a cheer called the "anti-wave," wherein you stood up until the "wave" came around, at which time you sat down, shouted out, "FUCK THE 'WAVE'!" at the top of your lungs, then stood back up until it came back around again. we used to get quite a few people joining in, too. uh, where was i? oh yeah. FUCK the librarians, and the FUCK-stix they rode in on. oh, well that goes without saying. speaking of web pages, karen. why isn't yours listed on either bayard's or quail's compleat feghomepage gazeteers? it's ever so lovely. http://leb.net/iac/ "As we often see in US foreign policy, other nations' attempts to defend themselves from US attacks are defined as aggression." --Jake Sexton ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:46:58 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: it's perfect! cut and print... > I think "True Stories" final shot, with the kid playing soccer >in a street while "city of dreams" plays, is perfect. > > It's also the best thing about the movie...what WAS David >Byrne thinking? > -luther Check out the book based on the movie from Penguin Books. It has a lot of great information and behind-the-scenes pictures and explanations. The indians told a story... Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 00:10:42 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: "uli kunkel? her co-star in the beaver picture?" Capitalism Blows: >oh by the way, let me take this time to point out that, while the lyrics >committee was(/is?) frightfully comradely, and monumentally a lot of >fucking fun, it wasn't, strictly speaking, a consensus aexercise. that >is to say, final arbite rested with capuch'n, and capuch'n only. Damn, I had a vision of a bunch of guys sitting around and voting with beans - and maybe different colored lyrics. Oh well - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:44:38 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: rolling and rambling > <(something I haven't done since the second Traffic LP).> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > traffic doesn't get discussed much on this list, does it? i remember > thinking the cover to JOHN BARLEYCORN was about the coolest fucking > thing i'd *ever* seen. > this may sound snide, but believe you me, i ask it in all curious > sincerity: mr. godwin, do you have a list of the albums for which you > made *three* calls? Good question - there weren't any others. The reason that these two albums entailed multiple call-backs was that both of them were announced for a specific release date, so I went into the store (Harlequin in 1968, Rival in 1998) to be told that the date had been put back a week. And the same thing happened the following week; and so on. To be honest, I don't remember how many times I called back for 'Traffic': I think it was delayed for about 6 weeks. However, it was worth the wait - easily their best album: 'No time to live', 'Crying to be heard', 'Pearly Queen', '40,000 headmen' and several other excellent songs. I think that after Dave Mason left, there was less of a challenge for Winwood to come up with new songs, and he started filling the albums up with long jams such as the interminable 'Rollright stones'. I believe that Winwood's reputation has slipped since then because he has taken to making such predictable solo albums. I would have thought that as a top-flight vocalist+keyboard player+guitarist, he could still do better (& didn't he learn the drums too so that he could say that 'Arc of a Diver' was totally self-performed?). - - Mike Godwin PS You reminded me that those performances of 'John Barleycorn' were completely magical: a flute, a tambourine and an acoustic guitar with Winwood and Capaldi singing - I still can't work out what made them so effective ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:54:03 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Greybeard loon responds ... > Michael R Godwin: > >It's a brand new release On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > It's just not fair to rank career-overview box sets and the > like against strict "new releases." I mean, if I allowed myself to rank > Dylan at #1, then I'd have to rank compilations of Hendrix, Genesis, > Pixies, Throwing Muses, John Lennon and "Nuggets" among the leaders too. > Ugh. I'd look like some gray-haired Goldmine fart. ;) Sorry, I can't accept this. All the other records you mention have had a previous official release. This one is brand new! - -ish ... [anecdote snipped here ...] > I don't see why this anecdote is relevant to the issue at hand. Absolutely - see long post to Eddie T for further irrelevance. - - Mike Godwin PS My hair remains a defiant shade of mud-brown! PPS Oh all right, there are traces of grey in my beard ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:08:10 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Under the Marcy > K said: > > Under the Mercy--which is a darn poetic phrase -comes from the writer > > Charles Williams On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Partridge, John wrote: > Is this the third member of the Inklings trinity (C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. > Tolien, and ?Charles Williams?)? If so, which of his books would be > the most accessible to someone who dug Chronicles of Narnia and Lord > of the Rings? Certainly is. I wouldn't describe his books as accessible - I would recommend the C S Lewis 'space' trilogy (Out of the Silent Planet - Perelandra (aka Voyage to Venus) - That Hideous Strength) which becomes progressively more Williamsian by the volume. I suppose you could try 'The place of the lion' (is that the right title?). Humphrey Carpenter's book on the Inklings is good on Williams. I think Williams's main claim to fame is his doctrine that it is possible for one person to take on the burden of another person's pain. Over to the Cap. for further info. - - Mike (the more posts I send, the less work I do) Godwin PS I hope we don't start talking about the Powys brothers next ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:39:42 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: War is heck! >Eb, voting thumbs way down on Kevin Costner, even though he went to Cal >State Fullerton, and wishing film fans of the predictable Dark Hipster >Irony orientation would stop blathering about the Coens Seconded. (re. Charles Williams) >He , along with Arthur Machen and algernon Blackwood(both highly recommended) >belonged to an offshoot of an offshoot of the Golden Dawn, a fraternity that >also hosted Yeats and Crowley. Eh? I thought Williams was one of the "Inklings" - the group of Christian writers that included Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. What's a pal of C.S. Lewis doing hanging around with Aleister Crowley? Got dragged to see "The Thin Red Line" last night. My two friends and I reached the same verdict: the first 2/3 of the movie were absolutely fantastic - terrific directing, acting, and cinematography, completely mesmerizing. But the last 1/3 of the film should have been either cut or severely edited. If I heard one more portentious voice-over or saw one more misty-eyed flashback of the one character's wife, I thought I was going to start screaming. "A few nails got hammered a little too hard," as one of my friends put it. Vague Robyn-relevance: the guy who kept mooning about his wife bore a slight resemblance to Robyn, which provided some extra entertainment value for me. ("Hey, Robyn's throwing grenades! Cool!") n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:44:13 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Greybeard loon responds ... MG: >> It's just not fair to rank career-overview box sets and the >> like against strict "new releases." I mean, if I allowed myself to rank >> Dylan at #1, then I'd have to rank compilations of Hendrix, Genesis, >> Pixies, Throwing Muses, John Lennon and "Nuggets" among the leaders too. >> Ugh. I'd look like some gray-haired Goldmine fart. ;) > >Sorry, I can't accept this. All the other records you mention have had a >previous official release. Poppycock. Lennon? Genesis? Those discs were previously unreleased outtakes and live cuts. And I'm not sure about the Hendrix/Pixies BBC compilations, but certainly those tracks weren't available in one tidy package like that before, right? NONE of the above qualify as strict reissues. If you're going to allow Dylan, you gotta allow those discs too. Now, this DOESN'T mean you have to allow, say, the reissues of the first three Cheap Trick albums. That's different. There, it's a case of a one-to-one, direct reissue. >This one is brand new! Yeah, it has only been the most famous bootleg in the world for 30 years. Brand spanking new, all right. ;) You know, I think the "eligibility" depends a bit on the terminology. If someone asked me for "The Year's Most Important Releases," then I'd probably mention the live Dylan. But if it's "The Best of 1998"? Nope. There's a slant, an implication in that choice of language. You're being asked for what was new and exciting about the Class of 1998, NOT what was dug out of label archives. If you cite compilations and box sets in response, you're failing to answer the question. Probably because you don't have a better answer. And lo and behold, if you check which critics cite stuff like the Dylan album on their lists, they're usually Greybeard Loons with little knowledge of contemporary cutting-edge sounds. Watching the midnight oil burn out, Eb PS "Traffic" and "John Barleycorn Must Die" are great, yup. Not to mention "Mr. Fantasy".... Exciting weblink: http://www.mslawyer.com/mssc/cases/980910/9600620.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:18:28 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: War is heck! On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Eh? I thought Williams was one of the "Inklings" - the group of Christian > writers that included Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. What's a pal of C.S. Lewis > doing hanging around with Aleister Crowley? Very good question. Tolkien was suspicious about this, but I think that CSL definitely had occultist leanings. He was very keen on Elizabethan romantic symbolism, and I think there are affinities between all that Tillyard great chain of being stuff and Kabbalism. I haven't got any documentation on this, but some of CSL's ideas (e.g. that a 'good' heathen can be saved on the day of judgement) are not exactly mainstream. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Plumb at NTAC Subject: Film thoughts Regarding final shots, I can't believe nobody's mentioned my two favorites. 1) The incredible freeze-frame finish to Truffaut's "The 400 Blows" 2) The beautiful icons from Tarkovsky's "Andrei Roublev". I read "The Postman" many years ago. It had a really good first half, but dissipated it with an idiotic good vs. evil finish. I hated "Dances with Wolves" so much that I've had real trouble viewing any Costner stuff since, although I enjoyed the parts of "Waterworld" that I saw on TV last year. I saw "The Celebration" last week and it crushes like a bug any other movie made in 1998. A must-see. rich == Richard Plumb reply to either: rplumb@cais.com or billytell@yahoo.com webpage: http://www.dc.net/rplumb/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:55:36 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Did somebody say Bill Hicks wasn't as funny as he *should* be? - ---Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > he's funny, but not as funny as he *should* be. i don't know. i can't > really explain it. You take that back! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:53:11 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: listserv Q (RH factor zero) I need a list app that has security (either by IP or password) so that onyl a specified few may post to the list. It should run on NT, cos that's what i got. I'm looking for something that won't have to me moderated by a human. Thanks! And sheesh, could you guys spoil any MORE movie endings? (; ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: did somebody say On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > he's funny, but not as funny as he *should* be. Is the comedian half-empty or half-full? My advice is, listen to him until you aren't laughing anymore, but don't worry about how much better he *could* have been. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:36:23 -0800 From: Jean Katherine Rossner Subject: Re: Under the Mercy >From: LORDK@library.phila.gov >Under the Mercy--which is a darn poetic phrase -comes from the writer >Charles Williams who wrote trippy, stilted, surreal, old-fashioned, >kalidescopic,turgid, and basically undescribable "occult thrillers" >before and during WWII. Hm. I'd (attempt to) describe his novels as the great Platonic-mystical novels of the century, difficult to read because Williams appears neither to have noticed that the natural and supernatural worlds are usually considered somewhat distinct in our culture, nor to express temporal events in a linear way. Surreal and kaleidoscopic I can go along with; stilted and turgid I don't think so! >Anyway--I use it as a sign off because I tend to veer towards tha station >Severity(notice crack bout Madonna). By reminding myself to head towards >Mercy, I hope to staighten out and take the middle route of Harmony. Good--since it seems to have been the loathsome Sheldon Vanauken who popularized "Under the Mercy", I'd been worrying all this time that you were a fan of *his*! >Anyway, there are all sort of GD refernces in Charles Williams works, >and Under the Mercy shows up in both his poetry and novels. If anyone >is foolish enough to take this as a suggestion to read him(which, of course it >is--I love the guy)be warned--he is as likely to offend orthadox Christians >(which he considered himself to be) as Neopagans, and Thelemites(which he >wasnt), but be a joy to Hermeticists(Hail Thoth) , Rosicrucians and >(some) orthadox Christians. This mostly-orthodox Catholic finds him thrilling. The friend to whom I recommended Williams most recently--not, to the best of my knowledge, practicing any religion--found him simply incomprehensible. (I recommend WAR IN HEAVEN as a starting place, but maybe you do need some Eucharistic theology?) **** >From: "Capitalism Blows" >in fact, i was quoting the Lord. >by the way, today i saw a guy holding a sign that said: "get Hot, get >Cold, or get Spewed," and it was purportedly from Revelations, 3:16. >can this be true? i mean, i am in a library and all, so i could, >conceivably, look it up myself. but i'm not sure i want to be seen with >a bible in my hands just today. but if it *is* true, then that's >hot-damnably outrageous! I don't have a Bible handy, but he was probably referring to the one that goes something like "Because you are neither hot nor cold, I will spew you out of my mouth." Why do you like it so much? Katherine a short, chubby, pasty-faced science-fiction fan in a green wool cape - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #27 ******************************