From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #24 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 26 1999 Volume 08 : Number 024 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A&M&R&I&P [Michael R Godwin ] Re: hey Eddie [Michael R Godwin ] Re: hoots! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Varied and Sundry Sunday [Michael Wolfe ] aye, kilt [VIV LYON ] Re: aye, kilt [Bayard ] "is this your homework, larry?" ["Capitalism Blows" ] Tim Keegan detials (Randi's question) [Ken Sabatini ] RE: solidarity & the kingdom [Tom Clark ] song of the week page [John Barrington Jones ] [0%RH] You don't know JACK! [hal brandt ] Re: [0%RH] You don't know JACK! [Danielle ] hotmail.com [tanter ] Randi et al [tanter ] Re: "is this your homework, larry?" [tanter ] Re: Marys [Michael R Godwin ] Mary recruitment office [VIV LYON ] the king of the nighttime world ["Capitalism Blows" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:06:30 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: A&M&R&I&P On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > So here's my quick salute to Herb Alpert, Procol Harum, The Merry-Go-Round, > Tyrannosaurus Rex, Joe Cocker, Fairport Convention, Cat Stevens, The Move, > Emitt Rhodes, Rick Wakeman, The Police, Supertramp, Squeeze, The Feelies, > Andy Summers & Robert Fripp, The Blue Nile, Suzanne Vega, Chris Stamey, > Soul Asylum, Phil Ochs, Kitchens of Distinction, The Dickies, Cecil Taylor, > Swervedriver and Soundgarden. And of course, most of all, Claudine Longet. > Oh yeah, Robyn Hitchcock too. Not forgetting those two Beefheart singles: Moonchild/Who do you think you're foolin' and Diddy Wah Diddy/(Out of the) Frying pan I've got the first but not the second. Incidentally, several of the artistes you mention were initially on Regal Zonophone in the UK, and later transferred to Fly Records/Cube Records: Procol, Cocker, the Move and Tyrannosaurus Rex. - - Mike Godwin "I've got a cloak it's a bit of a joke It's got a tear up the front It's red and black I've had it for months If you think it will look good Well I guess it should" RKB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:14:40 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: hey Eddie On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > >>>>> "woj" == cinders blue writes: > woj> more importantly, how many fegs own kilts? > > std issue to scotfegs, for sure. 'The kilt' surely. My understanding is that this is a word which has no plural: 'I am wearing the kilt' 'Thou art wearing the kilt' 'He/she/it is wearing the kilt' 'We are wearing the kilt' 'You are wearing the kilt' 'They are wearing the kilt' My Grandma was a Duncan and she got very irate if anyone referred to 'kilts'. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:19:26 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: hoots! > >>>>> "woj" == cinders blue writes: > woj> more importantly, how many fegs own kilts? > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > std issue to scotfegs, for sure. 'The kilt' surely. My understanding is that this is a word which has no plural: 'I am wearing the kilt' 'Thou art wearing the kilt' 'He/she/it is wearing the kilt' 'We are wearing the kilt' 'You are wearing the kilt' 'They are wearing the kilt' My Grandma was a Duncan and she got very irate if anyone referred to 'kilts'. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:57:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Re: Varied and Sundry Sunday >If you gained 45 pounds and got hit in the face with a sizzling waffle >iron, you would look considerably more like Rick Wakeman. Oh, I hope no one takes this as a suggestion. I can see the headlines: RABID PROGGY WHACKS FEG WITH WAFFLE IRON! HITCHCOCK FAN SINGS THE GRIDDLE ELECTRIC! HICKS NIX STIX PICS! >This movie doesn't look at all like a sharkboy flick. By the way, what >color will the next thin line movie be? You're probably right, it doesn't seem like a sharkboy flick. The next "thin line" movie will be "The Thin Purple Line", of course. It'll be about the 1998 Minnesota Vikings' defense. :( - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: aye, kilt - ---Michael R Godwin wrote: > My Grandma was a Duncan and she got very irate if anyone referred to > 'kilts'. I have a kilt. If I had two or more, would I say, 'I have several kilt'? That sounds wrong. My grandmother is a Carmichael, and I've been told my whole life that I'm a descendent of Mary the Queen of Scots, but that just isn't true. However, on my father's side, Lyon (which sounds English or French) is actually Scottish, and the clan were the bearers of arms to the Queen. So I'm about as Scottish as they come, you know, without really having a sense of heritage or anything. Haggis and bagpipes? Sheep? These things don't resonate with me, I'm afraid. But the kilt is cool, I used to wear it all the time with knee socks held up with sock garters, boots, a ripped up t-shirt and a tux jacket. As for capes, well, the kilt actually had a matching cape. It was reversible. I used to wear it with a little red corduroy hat that sort of looked like a Sherlock Holmes hat, but smaller. Vivien My 'Christian' name is Scottish, it means 'little glen'. Any guesses? The winner will have the option to stalk me or assume my identity. I'll confirm via email. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:32:34 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: aye, kilt On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, VIV LYON wrote: > ---Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > My Grandma was a Duncan and she got very irate if anyone referred to > > 'kilts'. > > I have a kilt. If I had two or more, would I say, 'I have several > kilt'? That sounds wrong. i'm guessing you'd still say "i have the kilt", as even if you had multiple ones, they'd still be the same - the tartan of your clan. (right?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:16:26 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "is this your homework, larry?" nightmare. i had a robyn nightmare. or at least, nightmarette. i dreamed, last night, that robyn got shot at while trick-or-treating with two kids, in my old neighborhood. not *because* he was robyn, thankfully. just randomly. so there was a story about it in the newspaper and all. and my cousin (from idaho, whose only robyn exposure, to my knowledge, was the bumbershoot gig -- which he thought was "okay," although all the next day, he kept singing: "visa visa visa visa visa [sic] sea-tac/they got the best computers and coffee and smack.") was freaking fucking out, couldn't believe that such a horrific event would happen. i was, surprisingly, taking it pretty low-key. i calmly explained to him that in any society in which guns and violence are so casually accepted, such things are *bound* to happen. if you change "program" to "pogrom," it makes for...well, *something,* anyway. *AFUCKINGMAZINGLY* cool!! can't believe i never noticed that. my fave part of the video, by the way, is robyn talking to the old ladies on the park bench, just totally cracking them up. couple things, however: one, it's pretty short. when you did your splicing, how long did the song come out? 'cause Ghost Ship is something like five minutes, isn't it? also, this certainly didn't sound like a splice job, except maybe at the very, very end. it sounds like, possibly, he cut this version in a studio, and then it was hacked up and spread across the video. and, ok, somebody got a hold of the studio version, and that's what i've got (i got it from bayard's friend dave paetzman, who isn't on the list, i don't think. but maybe i'll try to track down his source.) although, again, it's nowhere near as long as the commonly accepted version. the other thing i was thinking was, maybe this was the soundcheck performance, as he performed the song ("normal" version) during the show on whose tape it was appended. still in all, THANKS SO MUCH, for pointing this out, john!!! sleater-kinney are from much closer to tacoma than portland. the band is named after the street on which their practice space was housed. there's an exit onto the street from i-5, so every time you drive by there, you're kind of tempted to take the exit and go drive around and speculate as to which house it is. (on a related note, i one time drove around cornish, new hampshire, trying to figure out in which house j.d. salinger lives.) all that said, YES, *definitely* go see them. they'll blow you away. and please tape it if you've an opportunity. diana is talking about the time i dressed up as "the great pumpkin" for a husky game which took place on halloween. i had a purple and gold get-up, with a *purple* cape, actually, and carved a pumpkin out from the bottom and wore it on my head. and i'd purchased a little plastic jack-o-lantern, which i filled up with candies, passing them out to the drunk fratboys. the band were all wearing costumes as well, so i fell into line with them as they filed down onto the sideline area for their halftime performance, and walked back and forth in front of the student section exhorting the crowd, with great success (this was in the days of the three consecutive rose bowls, and national championship. this particular game was the return of bill walsh, and all anyone was talking about was the "genius" coming back to teach the dawgs a lesson. by halftime, the huskies were winning 35-7 or something, and ascended to #1 in the polls the following day. remember that game, russ?) then i went over and petted the husky dog for a while, and finally returned to my seat. it was all great fun. but this is different from the blue "cape" i wore at bumbershoot. and i still don't have any idea what an orange drink recipe has to do with any of this. *still* kicking myself for not having taped elf power when they opened for neutral milk hotel here in april. did you get any of it on tape, michel? so, the might anderson valley advertiser is now online!!! not the newspaper itself. but subscription info. and shit. and, they've put an article i wrote about them a little over a year ago on the site. the bear lincoln special edition has since come out, incidentally, and it's beyond phenomenal. anyone wants to check it out, it's at: and make sure you subscribe!!! http://leb.net/iac/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Sabatini Subject: Tim Keegan detials (Randi's question) On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Randi mentioned my name: >So -- Ken mentioned something about grits and Tim Keegan, though I don't >believe those two are necessarily linked ;} :-> >But, I've obviously missed out on something -- does Tim or Homer have an >album out? Ken said he was off to listen to the album. >I have the 'Superkeen' cd single -- but that is all -- so I'm wondering >if there is another album I should be looking for at my neighborhood >record store ;} I've seen the Superkeen single and another cd single as well, but don't recall the other single. I do know that Keegan & the Homer Lounge recently (maybe 4-6 months ago) had a few of their or Tim's singles compiled and released as "Long Distance Information" by Flydaddy. I bought a cheap promotional copy of the disc, which includes a "bonus disc" as well--I don't know if all copies of the disc have this or not. Anyway, the main disc has the tracks: Simple Man, Disconnected, (We've) Got Everything We Need, The Start of You, Win Them Back, Save ME From Happiness, Lucky, and Postcards from the Edge. The bonus disc has three tracks: The Shallow End, Single, and Overcoming the Grim Realities. Overall its a very gentle record, even on the more up-tempo tracks. Largely acoustic based songs--melodic, melancholic, and very pleasant. I had high expectations for the record when I first got it and was a bit disappointed initially. But the dang thing done grew on me. Robyn H. plays guitar on one track, Andy Metcalfe plays and was involved in the recording of the bonus disc tracks, and Wiggy produces a few of the main disc tracks. On one of these Wiggy tracks--Win Them Back--Tim sounds like nearly a dead ringer for Billy Bragg doing one of his heartfelt slow numbers. Elsewhere, when he sings in his higher register, Tim's voice reminds me so strongly of someone else . . . I think it's one of the guys from the Housemartins, but don't let that dissuade you from the record ;) . "We want more of your lazy comparisons to other singers: Who does he sound like in his lower register?!?" Okay, okay. I guess Tim Booth would come to mind for the lower register voice. Ken PS Anyone know whether Denzel (formerly an opening act for Robyn) has any new recordings coming down the pipeline? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:49:11 -0800 From: "Partridge, John" Subject: RE: solidarity & the kingdom Eddie said: > studio exec, arms gesticulating madly: "men were executed! > women bled! > bees and fish changed hands, and children stayed up late! colored > drums, they stretched the night. there was a taxidermist, > grinnin' with > delight. but now they're gone! yeah. only the rolling > stones remain!" > FWIW, here's what my ear tells me on two of those lines: Beads and fish changed hands and children stayed up late! Colored drums expressed the night. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:09:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: RE: solidarity & the kingdom On 1/25/99 2:49 PM, Partridge, John wrote: >Eddie said: > >> studio exec, arms gesticulating madly: "men were executed! >> women bled! >> bees and fish changed hands, and children stayed up late! colored >> drums, they stretched the night. there was a taxidermist, >> grinnin' with >> delight. but now they're gone! yeah. only the rolling >> stones remain!" >> > >FWIW, here's what my ear tells me on two of those lines: > >Beads and fish changed hands and children stayed up late! I've heard both "beads" and "meat" >Colored drums expressed the night. John's ear tells me this also. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:08:10 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: song of the week page http://www.ags.uci.edu/~mpolder/ as a big fan of the ".mp3 of the week" type of webpages, the above URL is one I visit weekly. their usual genre is moodier art rock stuff. but this week, the live version of "glass hotel" from the cd of Storefront Hitchcock is featured!! so if you are an .mp3 fan, and don't have the SH cd, this could be your chance to hear one of the best songs from it. your friend, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:25:20 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: [0%RH] You don't know JACK! Coolest TV moment in recent weeks: Jack Nicholson on The Golden Globe's last night. Watching Jack watch himself in those classic clips from his films was a rare treat. You could see him going through the emotions of the characterizations all over again and laughing or being moved when it was good (great!), plus you could sense him wincing at some of his not-up-to-par performances (Hoffa and that "You can't HANDLE the truth!" speech). Jack. What an original! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:41:52 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: [0%RH] You don't know JACK! Hal: > Coolest TV moment in recent weeks: > > Jack Nicholson on The Golden Globe's last night. I rather liked Michael Caine's acceptance speech, actually. Though Gwyneth Paltrow winning over Jane Horrocks was the usual travesty. Jane was *incandescent* in her role. 'Kilt' just came up on the Elvis Costello list. Odd, but not entirely unexpected. And yes, I do own one. Nat, I too am short. Yet still I manage to carry off capeworthiness - it depends entirely on the style of cape. And Randi! Cape compatriot! I nominate you for feg of the month in March, too. :) Danielle, profoundly bored by Saving Private Ryan adulation _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:37:19 -0500 From: tanter Subject: hotmail.com Is anybody having trouble with Hotmail? I'm trying to email Eddie and my server is saying his address isn't acceptable. I had the same problem with my sister-in-law's Hotmail address last week. Anyone know what's up? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:33:45 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Randi et al You all know that there never was anything wrong with Randi, right? You did remember that she's really a pro wrestler from Chicago..? She tricked us all into giving her loads of RH stuff when really HE has more money in the bank than we'll ever hope to see. His real name is Randy, not Randi, and he's related to Governor Ventura of Minnesota. I've been tracking him down via a private detective and discovered many interesting facts, most of which I could be sued for if I published them here. Suffice to say, Randy spends most of his days basking in the sun in the Bahamas, sipping mint juleps and swilling cheap gin. Marcy ps--see Randi? I do believe you're better now!!!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:39:29 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: "is this your homework, larry?" Eddie, man, I'm begging you. Get some help. I don't know what's going on in your life but you need serious help. I'm sure Eb knows someone...!! Those kinds of dreams are scary, especially when they are so vivid. but you know he'd never go out on Hallowe'en. The British don't believe in it!! Marcy ;) I tried to send this privately but my server wouldn't let me!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:24:35 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Marys On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, VIV LYON wrote: > My grandmother is a Carmichael, and I've been told my whole life that > I'm a descendent of Mary the Queen of Scots, but that just isn't true. > However, on my father's side, Lyon (which sounds English or French) is > actually Scottish, and the clan were the bearers of arms to the Queen. Do you know that folk song Four Marys? It begins: 'Last night there were four Marys Tonight there'll be but three There was Mary Beaton and Mary Seaton And Mary Carmichael and me' The number of Marys is being cut down because the singer is Mary QOS and she's going to be beheaded that day. Presumably the Marys Carmichael etc are her chums, but I don't know. Any ideas? - - Mike Godwin PS On the subject of beheading, this week is the 350th anniversary of the abrupt end of Charles I's reign. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Mary recruitment office - ---Michael R Godwin wrote: > The number of Marys is being cut down because the singer is Mary QOS and > she's going to be beheaded that day. Presumably the Marys Carmichael etc > are her chums, but I don't know. Any ideas? If I had read "Mary, Queen of Scots' by Schiller any closer, I'd know the answer to that. I do know that though she and Elizabeth were cousins, they never met (at least there are no court records of such a meeting). And speaking of that, I saw Shakespeare in Love last night (Ms. Paltrow was irritatingly competent), and Judi Dench gave a kick ass performance of the Virgin Queen. > PS On the subject of beheading, this week is the 350th anniversary of the > abrupt end of Charles I's reign. And the abrupt end of Charles. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:22:50 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: the king of the nighttime world the TWO HALVES record sleeve has "beads" and "expressed." the capuch'n lyrics engine has "beads" and "stretched." i'll give robyn the latter. but, it sure does sound like "bees" to me. incidentally, the record and the lyrics page both have the taxidermist, "lookin' for a fight," but i think "grinnin' with delight" is a much better line. Subject: RE: solidarity & the kingdom Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:09:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark To: "Partridge, John" , "Funky Denim Wonderland" Reply-To: Tom Clark On 1/25/99 2:49 PM, Partridge, John wrote: >Eddie said: > >> studio exec, arms gesticulating madly: "men were executed! >> women bled! >> bees and fish changed hands, and children stayed up late! colored >> drums, they stretched the night. there was a taxidermist, >> grinnin' with >> delight. but now they're gone! yeah. only the rolling >> stones remain!" >> > >FWIW, here's what my ear tells me on two of those lines: > >Beads and fish changed hands and children stayed up late! I've heard both "beads" and "meat" >Colored drums expressed the night. John's ear tells me this also. - -tc ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #24 ******************************