From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #18 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 19 1999 Volume 08 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: weenie thing [Terrence M Marks ] feggies say "ommmmmmmmmmm....." [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: [Fwd: Fw: Virus Alert] [Zloduska ] eye ["Ghost Surfer" ] Re: Order of the Golden Feg [cinders blue ] Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: weenie thing [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] kung fu [VIV LYON ] Re: Just a collection of words. No, I'm serious. [VIV LYON ] Colin Bluntstone [Terrence M Marks ] Re: anybody know the name of this song? ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: kung fu fighting [Joel Mullins ] Re: lyrics shutdown ["Capitalism Blows" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: weenie thing > Well, I didn't know they were old radio recordings. In those days (and at > those frequencies), you're not getting anything better than 32Kbps anyway! I'd say the music on there is about the same quality as that of a good bootleg recording. I think that most of Robyn's recordings could be dubbed down to that level without much loss, but I've never tried it. > Believe me, you'd notice the difference when compared to something > recorded after the invention of the integrated circuit. Despite what some listmembers would have you believe, I have heard music recorded with modern technology. I just didn't like it very much. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:37:00 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: feggies say "ommmmmmmmmmm....." >Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 9:58:55 -0500 >From: LORDK@library.phila.gov >Subject: Club Med Music--and the Lodge of the rawk godettes > >Cant help tryin to pull teeth on the spirituality bit(I guess since its >hard for me to think of anyone into Hitchcock who dosnt have the >capacity for that sort of unfoldment), so , Im going to throw 2 >questions out to the enfanged multitude-- > >1-Do any of you do meditative practices? I've been affiliated with the practice lineage of the late Venerable Chogum Trungpa Ripoche for about 2 yrs, so I guess yeah. I have been meditating for a little longer than that. If so, do you use music >to deepen this altered state, and if so--what? 1. This branch of Buddhism is not going for an altered state. I passed the point of "neat flashes of blue light" quite a while ago. 2. That said, to get me into my posture, I usually play something like "reel ten" from the Repo Man soundtrack, "dream song" by widespread panic, or "Nocturne (Demise)" by Uncle bobby to get my breathing in sync. anybody else? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:03:48 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: Virus Alert] >Joel and fegdom at large: > >Before worrying any about this or forwarding to anyone else, check out >the Data Fellows Anti-Virus HOAX warnings page: One more: http://www.brodietech.com/antidote.htm ~~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:36:54 PST From: "Ghost Surfer" Subject: eye in reply to..... >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:43:56 PST >From: "Capitalism Blows" "so, an offlist discussion with eb has got me thinking. what exactly was the deal with EYE? did he record it, offer it to a&m, and they rejected it? was the a&m contract *specifically* with robyn hitchcock and the egyptians, thus, EYE would not have been a valid record? did he tell a&m he planned to make a solo acoustic record, and they told him to bug off, but release it somewhere else if he pleased? was it something to do with, if you're going to release it on our label, you're going to have to used an approved producer? eb contends that it was an "overt" attempt to go indie, and keep a&m's meddling hands off of him. but i can't believe that he would not have released it on a&m if they had wanted him to. that wouldn't make much, if any, sense.you know, it's too bad there were no liner notes to the rhino reissue. what was the deal with that?" I thought that as RH had recorded "eye" as a side project, while taking time off in SF, that a&m were happy for him to put it out as he wished and as RH knew the guys at twin tone they snapped it up. The a&m deal was only for the US as well and so Glassfish put the record out in the UK. a&m would have signed Rh not the egyptians and so would have first refusal on anything he had done, perhaps the reason for passing was to do with their release schedule being busy at the time and therefore not being able to promote or ditribute the album. Just a theory. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:51:49 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: Re: Order of the Golden Feg also sprach gnat: >For cryin' out loud, Lord K - if you want to see a lodge organized around a >rock gawdette, look around you! I realize that you may not be permitted to >enter into the inner circle where woj and his acolytes commune with their >Higher Cones - I myself have only heard rumors of this sanctum, which is >apparently lined entirely with the skins of those who dare to call Robyn a >B+ artist - but surely you must know of its existence. actually, i only use the flayed skins of the heathens who reject tori and all her works. >Aside from our own illustrious organization, though, I do know a guy who - >I'm not sure how seriously - claims Kate Bush and Tori Amos as his personal >deities. Yes, I laughed too. laffa while you can, monkey-girl! +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:16:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) >>>>> "amadain" == amadain writes: amadain> Donovan. Though that may just be that they are both amadain> Scottish and have similar voices. Huh? Eh? What?! Like most Scottish artists who might actually good, Momus seems to be an unknown quantity here. We just get stuck with the tat like Runrig and Deacon Blue, both thankfully no longer recording (whew!). - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:24:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: weenie thing >>>>> "Terrence" == Terrence M Marks writes: >> 32kbit/s MP3s sound terrible to me. Make good Swamp Thing >> effects, tho'. Terrence> While I haven't tried it on standard rock'n'roll, that Terrence> rate seems ok while listening to Dennis Day, Ray Terrence> Ellington, and the Four Sportsmen. Depends on the encoder, I believe, though I could well be wrong. Code licensed from the Fraunhofer Institute (basically, pretty much anything that isn't free) gets better results at lower bit rates than the free code. They're after the philosopher's stone of acceptable low bit rate real time encoding in software which will allow them to tie up the internet telephony market. The artists you mentioned are probably in mono, so they probably sound much better than a stereo MP3 encoded at that rate. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 9:26:07 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: Order of the golden feg Thanks you Natalie, for taking the bait. I was hoping someone would make the connection back to this very list. Such acumen shows you to be one of the true elite(versus, of course, the false effete), and therefore worthy of enlightenemet. ah--you think it is woj who guards the inner sanctum, a usefull cover ,yes, for the listserve which dare not speak its name, of which, needless to say, I am mistress, having past thru the initiation of The Winged Lion. More later, this message is unfortunatly the victum of patron interuptus. UTM K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 9:39:15 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: order of the golden feg Salve As I was saying, there is an invisable, an inaudable listerseve out there vibrating away. But how to access it, and what it conveys-- is ineffable. However, there are some feg cerimonies, such as the one Natalie mantioned, which hepls raise one chi to a level where reorganization along true Feg principles is possible. If undertaken too soon, however it leads to, not a state of Feg, but of Gef, which involves huge sums of money, a great deal of bs, and Keanu Reeves as a sex toy. UTM K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:56:31 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #17 Joel said: >I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu >Fighting was originally released in 1974." What the hell does that >mean? I've always wondered about this. Does anyone have a clue as to >what this means? I think it means "Kung Fu Fighting was originally released in 1974. - -Doc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:37:06 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: re: kung fu fighting >>I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu >>Fighting was originally released in 1974." What the hell does that >>mean? I've always wondered about this. Does anyone have a clue as to >>what this means? > >I think it means "Kung Fu Fighting was originally released in 1974. well said. the real question is, "what does 'kung fu fighting' have to do with 'eye'? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: kung fu > Joel said: > > >I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu > >Fighting was originally released in 1974." I've known for a little while that this was covered by Robyn, but only in the academic sense. Now I know it, if not biblically, at least viscerally. If ears count as viscera. Probably not. Anyway, this weekend Dave was unpacking some of his records and discovered that he actually has Alvin Lives in Leeds, so I got to hear "Kung Fu Fighting." I just want to tell you that it was the defining moment of my life. Well, it was pretty funny at any rate. Vivien It's acoustic! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: Just a collection of words. No, I'm serious. Capitalism blew-* <> >interesting, but i don't really think so. Well then who is it, Mr. Smarty-pants Communist? <> >must be a work in progress, then? otherwise, how do >we account for the fact that the most interesting word >of them all ("fuck") is not in there. also, no >"wrecker." I think people use 'fuck' a lot. Too much, perhaps. God knows, it's a fun word to say, but it's overrated nowadays. <> >some of you may know that the code-letter for tonic >water on soda guns is "q." for "quinine water." i >used to drink it straight a lot when i >worked at the club. one time i asked a guy there if >he wanted a drink of quinine water, and he got all >pissed off. "Poor lady, the quinine did her no good." Spoken with a soft southern lilt, this becomes one of the best lines ever uttered on stage. Without the accent, it sucks. > just looked over this wordlist again. > no "ointment"! how could you draw up a list of >most-interesting words and not include "ointment"? > also, no "catalytic converter," which is a phrase, >yes. but *neither* "catalytic" *nor* "converter" are >included!! Oh, you! It isn't a list of *most* interesting words! Geez, you guys are hung up on top-x lists, most lists, best lists. It's just a collection of words, fer pity's sake. Nice words, words I like. I left a ton of words off. Tantamount. Scrimmage. Jilt. Vivien prurient ascertain tousle vouch * that verb usage was meant only for entertainment's sake, not as a comment on how I feel about one Edward Tews. (or is it Edmund? Or Edgar? Or Edison?) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:49:08 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "yeah right, humans. wake up. this is a gwar show." -- brian prosser no way it brands you as crazy, man! it marks you as a hominid of the most discerning of tastes, well suited to the task of running one or more listservs. one thing that really bums me out about living in seattle is that we don't get hardly any fuckin' snow, ever. you always see all these monster blizzards in the midwest and new england, and, damn, all i can think is, i wished i was *there*! of course, your summers are horribly hot and humid. speaking of whom, they're constructing some sort of robyn page. . anybody know what that's all about? <(there's a monumental task: making sense of all those tapes -- i think i have two or three tapes of sessions, none of which is indexed all that well. i'm sure there is more.)> another worthy task would be to compile all the different names the radar demos have been traded under. i've traded for that damned tape too many times, thinking it was some great new lost soft boys assemblage that i'd never yet heard, only to find out that i'd been fooled again. (no, i'm *not* intelligent enough to ask in advance for a setlist.) but it *was* with a band, not just robyn solo demos? you got a copy, woj? anybody else got a copy? aidan merrit slagged robyn? how can this be? what is the world coming to, when aidan merrit will slag robyn? i never believed in any of this millenial doomsaying until i heard tell of, of, of *this*! the Storefront posters have been added. <>And by the way Vivien, you are not the only one who has been >disappointed with the amount of fegmail you've been receiving. maybe you need to be on more lists!> it's just not the same, though. EVEN EB knows that (although he'll never admit to it.) who put the "[sic]" in there, and why? and the egyptians played it live quite a bit during the "driving aloud" tour. yup, it's legit. i posted an (i think) complete release history of the spaceward sessions sometime last year. don't remember exactly when, though. now, just *when* will those archives become searchable? oh, you'll bed on it, young man. you'll bed on it and *like* it! <> Raw Cuts is just a CD version of the Wading Through A Ventilator EP. I thought Robyn mentioned that on one of them, Kimberly's guitar tracks were taken out and replaced by someone else's. Unfortunately, I can't remember where or confirm this an any way.> if he said that, he must have been joking. but i would like to see the quote, if anyone's got it laying around. that is a pretty good question. i remember thinking at the time that it was just robyn and his wacky, nutty, kooky sense of humour. and andy does the bass part acappella! think it's meant to be taken as universal. like Trash, which is also written in the second person, but isn't about any actual person. although it would be interesting to ask him if he had stipe in mind at all when he was writing it. somebody's selling the Eaten By Her Own Dinner 12" on ebay right now. (a nice little piece, by the way. before Happy The Golden Prince was released by rhino, i inevitably turned to this record when making robyn mix tapes.) this sentence appears in the description: Most of the songs were recorded in Alaska in the early to mid-‘80s. good for a laugh, even if it "brands" me as an horrible snob. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:00:57 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: anybody know the name of this song? (robyn performed it at greenstreets, columbia, 4/28/90) Outside the house The judges are on fire Inside the house The flames are growing higher And we cry Inside your heart Your blood is growing thicker Inside your heart Is dark and strong liquor And we cry "Vengeance is mine," said The Lord But who is The Lord to argue with? "Vengeance is mine," said the cop But who are the cops to disagree with? Inside our lives The days are growing shorter And to your wife You must keep her now you've bought her And We Cry "Vengenace is mine," said The Lord ...i guess it's a cover. and that i probably *should* know it. but i don't. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:18:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: anybody know the name of this song? why do you think it's a cover? seems like an original to me... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:46:59 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Colin Bluntstone A goodly while back, someone asked of Colin Bluntstone (of The Zombies) recorded anything solo. The answer is that he put out 8 solo albums. I heard one of them, "Never even thought", today. While he's got a good voice, it's ultra-wuss AOR 70s pop. It was too light for me to listen to, and I probably have a higher-than-average tolerance of light music. This supporrts my theory that Rod Argent was the really talented one. Also, is there anything of merit to Donovan's post-60s output? The store had Cosmic Wheels and one of his other later albums, and I didn't want to ask the clerk to put on something like that after Bluntstone. Are they as bad as I think they'd be or not? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:54:51 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: anybody know the name of this song? the thought had certainly crossed my mind, especially since it's so short... and if no one on this list knows it, then we can be pretty certain that it *isn't* a cover. Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:18:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: anybody know the name of this song? Reply-To: Bayard why do you think it's a cover? seems like an original to me... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: lyrics shutdown > "Vengeance is mine," said the cop > But who are the cops to disagree with? so i went to www.lyrics.ch to try and look this up, and i find that the lyrics server has been shut down for alleged copyright violations. whatever happened to fair use? and i thought switzerland was supposed to be neutral? i'm telling you..., http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/01/cyber/articles/19lyrics.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:26:17 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: kung fu fighting Ken Ostrander wrote: > > >>I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu > >>Fighting was originally released in 1974." What the hell does that > >>mean? I've always wondered about this. Does anyone have a clue as to > >>what this means? > > > >I think it means "Kung Fu Fighting was originally released in 1974. > > well said. the real question is, "what does 'kung fu fighting' have to do with 'eye'? That's what I meant to ask. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:59:59 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: lyrics shutdown there was a very good article in the most recent number of carole's *excellent* magazyne, "technica." it had to do with web sites aplenty being shut down *by their servers* out of fear of lawsuits arising from copyright violations. my question, for those of us who believe that, "copyright infringement is your best entertainment value," (which, i suppose, is *all* of us) is this: how difficult/expensive would it be to get your own server, and put whatever the fuck you want on any web pages housed on said server? and after you'd done that, how difficult would it be to keep the thing being shut down by the feds? 'cause you'd still have to run it through an established phone-line provider, right? (sorry, but i know very little about the tech side of things.) pirate webhosting: an idea whose time has come! Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: lyrics shutdown Reply-To: Bayard > "Vengeance is mine," said the cop > But who are the cops to disagree with? so i went to www.lyrics.ch to try and look this up, and i find that the lyrics server has been shut down for alleged copyright violations. whatever happened to fair use? and i thought switzerland was supposed to be neutral? i'm telling you..., http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/01/cyber/articles/19lyrics.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #18 ******************************