From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #17 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 18 1999 Volume 08 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Eye [Joel Mullins ] Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) [Aaron Mandel ] mail bag [cinders blue ] Re: Eye [cinders blue ] yeah [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) [Ross Overbury ] Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) [dmw ] Re: weenie thing [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #15 [edoxtato@ssax.com] Re: weenie thing [Terrence M Marks ] Five Questions... [Mother ] Re: European tour [Michael R Godwin ] Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) [amadain ] Re: Five Questions... [Capuchin ] Re: weenie thing [Capuchin ] Re: weenie thing [normal@grove.ufl.edu] Re: Five Questions... [Terrence M Marks ] Re: weenie thing [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:54:50 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Eye I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu Fighting was originally released in 1974." What the hell does that mean? I've always wondered about this. Does anyone have a clue as to what this means? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:27:47 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, dmw wrote: > anyone (susan?) care to suggest next steps? Circus Maximus is by far my favorite Momus record, with Monsters Of Love (early singles... some of those songs were added to the reissue of Don't Stop The Night, if i'm not mistaken) and Ping Pong pretty close behind. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:39:38 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: mail bag also sprach viv: >Well, looks like it's the season to crow about your RH-related >Christmas haul. Dave got me the Rhino re-issue of Eye and also the A&M >Greatest Hits. my family has learned not to get me music for christmas, birthdays or any other gift-giving occasion. i think the last music-ish gift i received was from my brother who managed to mix up spandau ballet with i-forget-who (still have the tape though, for those times when i just can't go on without hearing "gold"). anyways, i got lots of neat gifts this past chimas, including (drum roll please) a minidisc recorder! wheeee! it's the sony mz-r50, for those who are interested. i haven't had a chance to use it much yet. i recorded a set by susan mckeown, gerry leonard and assorted friends at the living room in nyc last month, but had forgotten that i left the record levels up a wee bit too high while fiddling with it the night before. yes, virginia, you can max out a digital recording. anyways, i'll have ample opportunity to use it again. (coming up this week: susan werner, mila drumke, deni bonet and lunasa!) >On the subject of Christmas songs, I'll second 'A Patrick Swayze >Christmas' once upon a time, i was calling myself "patrick swayze's evil twin" and that name somehow managed to get associated with my old address in some white pages. as a result, i still get one or two messages a year from crazed teenagers (or their parents) thinking i'm the real deal. most recent message was from spain: > De: ************************ > Asunto: > Fecha: sábado 11 de abril de 1998 11:30 > > Dear: > > Are really you? Are the Patrick from "Dirty Dancing"?. > > Please, answer me these questions. > > > kisses from > > Patri > > alfonsog@accesosis.es also sprach susan: >CLEVELAND winter? I scoff- unless, that is, you got the same storm we did >in Chicago, in which case I salute you as a fellow spirit. My back is still >aching like hell from helping the SO liberate the sidewalks and driveway >from SEVENTEEN inches of snow (and falling as I write). Anyone here who's >ever had to push a billion pounds of snow out of the way to get their >friggin front door open knows whereof I speak here. It's a trip! unless you live in northern new england, upstate new york, michigan or the western mountains, i don't think any american can claim snowsnobbery. the fabled meredith grew up in maine and remembers times when there was 72 inches (6 feet; over 5 meters) of *standing* snow. i grew up in binghamton, ny -- while it wasn't in the lake effect snowbelts, but we still won the golden snowball a few times. much as it brans me as crazy, i miss the stuff. all we get here in the new york city area, aside from the freak blizzard (18" in march '94 and 24" in januar '96) are slush and ice storms. feh. also sprach michael godwin: >PS to our American readers: Have the Corrs really not hit you yet? They >are going to be mega-ubiquitous once they break through - sort of cross >between the Judds and the Nolan Sisters. Yuk! i'm not close enough to the heartbeat of america to know for sure, but i think they made a big splat here. i bought their first record in a cut-out bin thinking that it might be good. whoa, did it ever suck! certainly a contender for the worst $3 i ever spent. nearly had a coronary when i heard about the push their second record was getting, but i guess i shouldn't be too surprised. also sprach "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." : >1. Did Scrawl's "He's Drunk" ever get reissued on CD? Such a *good* >album, ya know? You're a Scrawl fan, right woj? it was released on cd as a 2-on-1 thing with _plus also too_. i didn't know it existed until i looked at the discography on the southern records site: . >4. Does anybody out there actually *own* "The Day They Ate Brick"? >Any idea how many copies were made? Could I get a recording of it? you mean the bootleg record? or the scrapped radar record itself? _the day they ate brick_ is the name of a bootleg which alleges to contain sessions from the scrapped radar record. everything on _the day they ate brick_ is readily available in better quality recordings on either _can of bees_ or _invisible hits_. however, i don't know if the stuff on the bootleg is from other sessions or not. with all the demo/sessions soft boys tapes out there, it's hard to tell anything. (there's a monumental task: making sense of all those tapes -- i think i have two or three tapes of sessions, none of which is indexed all that well. i'm sure there is more.) >(This has to be my favorite Soft Boys album, and I want it bad, and I >bid madly for a copy of it on Ebay last week, but it ended up going >for $98, which is too steep for me)? um, how could it be your favorite soft boys album if you want a recording of it? i would think that if it was your fave, you must already have a recording of it. also sprach eddie: >robyn also said in a bbc session in nov. '93, that they'd be working on >the album from february through december. and it strikes me that none >of these sessions, to my knowledge, have ever escaped into the >tape-trading world. anybody care to correct me? anybody know if SURFER >GHOST was actually completed? there was a 14-track demo tape circulated by sincere management. it's mostly studio versions of what would eventually become _moss elixir_, but there are some live tracks tossed in so that some of the songs which feature deni's violin could be heard by prospective record exces in a closer-to-complete form. there aren't any musician credits on the tape though. i think i recall aidan merrit referring to this tape as "surfer ghost", but then he also referred to it as "shite", i believe. >i think i saw woj mention that the museum is going to be offering a >bunch of unreleased stuff for sale. more stuff being offered at the museum was mentioned in the sonicnet chat. so far, nothing appears to have been added to the gift shop. >um, excuse me. woj? there is a proper way to reference url's. there >are probably also as many improper ways as there are humans. but here >on the feglist, we take pride in our grammar! yessir, eddie, sir! also sprach viv: >5. Some people have been bandying the name Joel Hodgson about. How >many MSTies have we in the area? Raise your hands and heckle my post. i'm not mstie enough to call myself a mstie, but i'm always the first person to look for little silouttes at the bottom of the tv screen when a bad movie is on. also sprach joel: >And by the way Vivien, you are not the only one who has been >disappointed with the amount of fegmail you've been receiving. maybe you need to be on more lists! woj n.p. "ivy" from cyberspace hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:11:32 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: Re: Eye also sprach Capitalism Blows: >so, an offlist discussion with eb has got me thinking. what exactly was >the deal with EYE? for what it's worth, here's what the press release for _eye_ has to say: - ----- We are licensing this solo acoustic record from A&M Records. Recorded in San Francisco in 1998 and 1989, Robyn sees this release as a thank you to his fans who have supported him since his days on independent albums, hence Twin/Tone releasing it made the most sense. It should be emphasized that we are just licensing this one release from A&M -- Robyn plans to go in the studio this summer with The Egyptians to record a new electric album for release on A&M in early 1991. This collection of 14 tracks (18 on the CD), simply acoustic guitar and piano, captures Robyn at his most charming -- whimsical, witty, wry. Robyn fans should recognize several of these songs from his live appearances over the last year or two, both headlining and his opening stint with R.E.M. "Queen Elvis," the song, appears twice on this album (the electric version appears on the CD, the only electric song on the record), even though it never appeared on _Queen Elvis_ the album. Other standouts include the Tudoresque "Chinese Water Python," [sic] the achingly beautiful "Raining Twilight Coast," and the very hummable "Beautiful Girl," for which Robyn has shot a video clip. He will also be doing a solo tour beginnning April 22. Robyn plans on playing lots of smaller towns he never played before -- just him, his guitar and a rent-a-car. - ----- dunno why that's not in the archives. here's another eye-related thing that not there either -- robyn on eye: - ----- Some words on EYE... This record is called EYE because it's the closest I could get to calling it ME without sounding even more egotistical. I am looking mainly at myself, the observer -- the closer you get to yourself, the closer you get to other people. By tunnelling into myself I'm hoping to burst out of someone else, like the Alien. And if that sounds pretentious. remember I'm writing this opposite the City Lights bookshop. In the free world -- you can't buy money, can you? -- all records are product. This one will go on top of the pile of others that I've put my name to; and if you haven't heard them, you probably won't understand this one. It isn't designed to "cross over" into the shimmering valley of mass marketing. It doesn't mean that I will or won't work with Andy and Morris again, on A&M. Same initials, co-incidentally. John Lennon said, amongst other things, that he wanted to make records like newspapers -- relay his feelings back to the world as soon as they hit him. I never had thta gift; it usually took years for life to filter through my psyche and into my songs. Recently my emotional metabolism has sped up a bit, and these songs are the result. They are designed -- if you can call this kind of stuff intentional -- to be listened to alone. There is no snare drum to babble over, no bass line to abuse with: "Hey, he plays some real neat stuff -- have you heard the Bevis Frond?" You have the right of reply (he said graciously) -- if you want to answer back, please write to me care of Twin/Tone. IT takes two to exist. Best wishes, Robyn Hitchcock March 1990 San Francisco - ----- also sprach Joel Mullins: >I've got a question about Eye, too. On the inside, it says, "Kung Fu >Fighting was originally released in 1974." What the hell does that >mean? I've always wondered about this. Does anyone have a clue as to >what this means? just what it says. it's a nice bit of fore-shadowing, i think. on one hand, we have the cover of carl douglass' "kung fu fighting" on the _alvin lives in leeds_ compilation. on the other, there is songs "1974", which would wait another few years before being birthed. apparently that year weighed has heavily on his psyche for some time. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:01:25 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: yeah On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:44:44 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >>From: Paul Sinasohn >> >>My favorite triple bill was >> >>"Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death" >> >>with >> >>"Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama" >> >>and >> >>"Pterodactyl Woman from Beverly Hills" >> >>(I'm NOT making this up) > >---------------------------- wasn't that a Joel episode of MST3K, right around the time of "The Cave Dwellers" and "Manos: the hands of fate"? :-) in more serious business, I have been without power from 5:00 fri till 12:30 today (sunday). any other fegs knocked out by the storm? -luther (who just got back from Number Nine Line practice, wherein we started final arranging of "Only the Stones" for bayard) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) Oddly enough, Circus Maximus is my favourite Circus Maximus album. I haven't heard Momus yet. We've discussed what Momus writes about. What's he sound like? On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, dmw wrote: > > > anyone (susan?) care to suggest next steps? > > Circus Maximus is by far my favorite Momus record, with Monsters Of Love > (early singles... some of those songs were added to the reissue of Don't > Stop The Night, if i'm not mistaken) and Ping Pong pretty close behind. > > a > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:17:03 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Ross Overbury wrote: > Oddly enough, Circus Maximus is my favourite Circus Maximus album. I > haven't heard Momus yet. We've discussed what Momus writes about. What's > he sound like? serge gainsborough arranged by the pet shop boys, with bits of magnetic fields and that bloke that did that record with andy partridge, whosisname, martin newell? something like that. and some japanese pop, too. at least on the three records i've heard. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:52:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: weenie thing >>>>> "John" == John Barrington Jones writes: John> how many robyn cd's do you think can fit in .mp3 format onto John> a cd-r? All depends on the rate. I find that 128kbit/s MP3s are indistinguishable from a CD (mind you, I don't have much eardrum left, what with all those perforations). These are almost exactly 11 times smaller than the CD date they represent, so I guess you'd get about 13˝hours of music on one CD-R. 32kbit/s MP3s sound terrible to me. Make good Swamp Thing effects, tho'. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:27:19 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Order of the Golden Feg >Anyway, now that the gobbly gook is over--here's the fun stuff(well, fun >to me) >if someone were to organize a lodge around the symbology of rock gawdettes-- >what would that lodge be like? What myths would it use? What sort of >initiatian cermony would there be? what grades(as in levels of achievement) >and what would be the aim of the whole thing? For cryin' out loud, Lord K - if you want to see a lodge organized around a rock gawdette, look around you! I realize that you may not be permitted to enter into the inner circle where woj and his acolytes commune with their Higher Cones - I myself have only heard rumors of this sanctum, which is apparently lined entirely with the skins of those who dare to call Robyn a B+ artist - but surely you must know of its existence. And don't you remember your initiation ceremony? "We are Fegs, we stand between the darkness and the light..." And then you had to hang from a tree upside-down for nine nights while singing Syd Barrett songs at the top of your lungs into a howling gale... I still have scars from when I forgot the words to "Octopus" and was lashed violently by mysterious figures wearing the heads of carp - I don't know who they were, but one of them was giggling in a distinctly quailiform manner... And if you think you're free of the Order, or that your initiation is over, remember - "True initiation never ends." Aside from our own illustrious organization, though, I do know a guy who - I'm not sure how seriously - claims Kate Bush and Tori Amos as his personal deities. Yes, I laughed too. Also, there's a character in "The Invisibles" (the best comic book ever) who decides that John Lennon has attained all the attributes of a god, and accordingly performs a ritual to contact him. Lennon manifests as a gigantic floating psychedelic head spouting Lennonesque gibberish, which seems about right to me. deifically yours, n. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gnat "There is even a voluptuous pleasure to be derived from simply typing the words 'emitting green rays.'" - Roger Ebert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:01:55 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #15 >>Also John Wesley Harding's "Trad Arr Jones". >I'll pass. Figures. - -Doc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:03:12 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: weenie thing > 32kbit/s MP3s sound terrible to me. Make good Swamp Thing effects, > tho'. While I haven't tried it on standard rock'n'roll, that rate seems ok while listening to Dennis Day, Ray Ellington, and the Four Sportsmen. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:02:07 -0500 From: Mother Subject: Five Questions... Ah, an attention grabber (of sorts). 'Ello, all. It's been just a little while. My sister just gave me a copy of "Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes" for my birthday yesterday; has anyone else out there got this? I can't imagine it's that rare. It's short (five videos?), but they made me howl. I hadn't seen an RH/RHE video before, but damn, Robyn's sense of humor comes through. 'Man With the Lightbulb Head.' What a hoot. Not too long ago I bought yet another cd (it's an illness). Called 'Raw Cuts' or something like that (it's actually at work), and claims to be studio demos from '77. Anyone heard of this one? The versions are all good--recording quality is excellent, etc. (Oh, all right, I just checked RH.com and, sure enough, it's there. 1989: Poached Egg. It's still not a legit release, is it? My sister, disseminator of great videos and other news, also emailed me a note saying Congress was going up on a vote in two weeks to possibly let the phone companies charge long distance rates for internet connections even if those connections are local....Anyone have an idea if that's accurate or not? There was also a link to Policy.com to rave right at your chosen representative... Having been out of the loop for a few weeks (I switched jobs), what's the skinny on Robynbase and that new Glossy rekkid? Well, that's practically five, if you don't jam four and five together.... Hope everyone's new year is off to a smashing start. pax. - -- Ferris! http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:47:51 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: European tour On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >robyn is embarking on a tour of spain, sweden, and italy; beginning > >TONIGHT! > > road trip!!! Let's all meet before the Estragon show in Bologna on Feb > 10th. Anyone know a good pizza place nearby? Vladimir and Pozzo can make it, but Godot might not be able to show up! - - Mike Godwin (it's a Samuel Beckett joke but you needn't laugh ...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:42:54 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: momus inductee (robyn who?) >serge gainsborough arranged by the pet shop boys, with bits of magnetic >fields and that bloke that did that record with andy partridge, >whosisname, martin newell? something like that. and some japanese pop, >too. at least on the three records i've heard. I'd say you're pretty much dead on, particularly about the Gainsbourg thang, although I would say there's a -general- "European cabaret" (for lack of a better name for it) influence, and early 80s synth architects like Numan and Dolby are a big influence too. The earlier albums reflect Brel as much as the 90s ones reflect Serge G., and actually, oddly, the apparent influence of Donovan. Though that may just be that they are both Scottish and have similar voices. Still, there is an eerie vocal resemblance, though it is much less apparent now than it was in the days of "Tender Pervert". Which would, btw, be my recommendation for the next one you pick up, tho you may have a difficult time finding it (I don't know that it was ever released in the US on CD). Also I'd second Aaron's recommendation on "Ping Pong", which is very good and much easier to find. Tearing my playhouse down in a baby-pop wall of sound, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:58:23 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Five Questions... On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Mother wrote: > Not too long ago I bought yet another cd (it's an illness). Called 'Raw > Cuts' or something like that (it's actually at work), and claims to be > studio demos from '77. Anyone heard of this one? The versions are all > good--recording quality is excellent, etc. (Oh, all right, I just > checked RH.com and, sure enough, it's there. 1989: Poached Egg. It's > still not a legit release, is it? Raw Cuts is just a CD version of the Wading Through A Ventilator EP. > My sister, disseminator of great videos and other news, also emailed me > a note saying Congress was going up on a vote in two weeks to possibly > let the phone companies charge long distance rates for internet > connections even if those connections are local....Anyone have an idea > if that's accurate or not? There was also a link to Policy.com to rave > right at your chosen representative... Um... being a fellow on this list that works for a long distance/local exchange/network service company, I guess I'll comment. OK, likely congress is going to make it OK for companies to charge long distance access fees for internet services. AT&T WorldNet, GTE.net, and SprintNet, and MCIWorldCom (or Cable & Wireless) will likely all try this method. They will all fail. Alternative network service providers (and folks that provide ONLY NSP service, like UUNet) won't go this route. Therefore folks will save money by going with non-telecom providers. Although my company is a telephone company, we're not an ISP and therefore do not charge individual customers anyway. It was decided through practical usage a long time ago that ISPs cannot survive charging their customers for the time they use. AOL held out for a very long time, but had to go flat-rate to compete... the same is true for MSn, Sprint, MCI... all the big names. And I'll tell you this, if Sprint starts charging their peered networks for data traffic per minute, we'll drop them in a heartbeat... and that'll hurt them more than us. So the folks that will suffer will be the telco/ISPs and their customers. If you're a good person who uses a smart, independent ISP, you're fine. Blah. J. -- speaking entirely on this monkey's behalf and not speaking the words of any employer anywhere. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:05:03 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: weenie thing On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > 32kbit/s MP3s sound terrible to me. Make good Swamp Thing effects, > > tho'. > While I haven't tried it on standard rock'n'roll, that rate seems ok while > listening to Dennis Day, Ray Ellington, and the Four Sportsmen. WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE? My guess is that the original fidelity of the records you're digitizing is so low that the 32Kbps doesn't suck any harder. Personally, I gotta go with 128. And yeah, I can't really tell the difference between that and CD. Figure 128Kbps is roughly 1MB/minute of music. Figure a CDR holds what? 650MB? That's 10.83ish hours of music. If your CDs are all at the average "loaded" capacity of CDA standard, then we're talkin' 8.78ish CDs on a CDR of MP3s. Does that answer your question, John? And man, you guys missed on the origin of the moniker John Barrington Jones. Oh... and I revealed the significance (or lack thereof, gnat) of the A in the middle of mine. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: weenie thing > > While I haven't tried it on standard rock'n'roll, that rate seems ok while > > listening to Dennis Day, Ray Ellington, and the Four Sportsmen. > > WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE? Dennis Day: Tenor on the Jack Benny Program (Lucky Strike series and tail end of the Jell-O series) and the less famous Dennis Day Program. Ray Ellington: Leader of one of the bands of the Goon Show The Four Sportsmen: A quartet/running gag on the Jack Benny Program, noted for the fact that they could all hum an F at the same time and were silent unless humming or singing (mind you, this is on a radio program). Or, Jeme, it's part of your radio heritage. Learn it. > My guess is that the original fidelity of the records you're digitizing is > so low that the 32Kbps doesn't suck any harder. Well, the music sounds clear and clean to me at that rate. If I was listening to Robyn at that fidelity, I might be able to tell the difference, but I wouldn't bed on it. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:59:49 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Five Questions... On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Capuchin wrote: > Raw Cuts is just a CD version of the Wading Through A Ventilator EP. I thought Robyn mentioned that on one of them, Kimberly's guitar tracks were taken out and replaced by someone else's. Unfortunately, I can't remember where or confirm this an any way. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: weenie thing On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > Or, Jeme, it's part of your radio heritage. Learn it. Have I ever told you folks how much I HATE radio? > > My guess is that the original fidelity of the records you're digitizing is > > so low that the 32Kbps doesn't suck any harder. > Well, the music sounds clear and clean to me at that rate. If I was > listening to Robyn at that fidelity, I might be able to tell the > difference, but I wouldn't bed on it. Well, I didn't know they were old radio recordings. In those days (and at those frequencies), you're not getting anything better than 32Kbps anyway! Believe me, you'd notice the difference when compared to something recorded after the invention of the integrated circuit. Stuff. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #17 ******************************