From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #11 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 11 1999 Volume 08 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Stupid / embarrassing song lyrics [Gary Sedgwick ] Clueless Arthouse [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Glass prisoner [JH3 ] Re: Paragraph Hitchcock [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Re: Paragraph Hitchcock [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Storefront/Elliott Smith Reviews [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: stupid [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Clueless Arthouse [Michael R Godwin ] Re: The Q word and the X word. Y? Y not? stupidest song lines? [Zloduska ] translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) [] Re: Stupid / embarrassing song lyrics [Jon Fetter ] Re: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) [] Crazy Diamond Box Set [griffith ] Re: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) [] Re: Crazy Diamond Box Set [Capuchin ] Re: translations, stupid lyrics [amadain ] News for collector weenies (which in this case, includes myself) [Eb ] "if it ain't country, it ain't music." ["Capitalism Blows" Subject: Stupid / embarrassing song lyrics Some that spring to mind: Tribute To A King, by William Bell I think - it's on the Atlantic Soul Classics album. It's meant to be a heartfelt tribute to Otis Redding: "Listen people, listen, Listen to my song, About a man who lived good, But didn't live too long" and "Otis, they called him 'Big O', Otis, we're sure gonna miss him so." There are some other real corkers in there as well. Kraftwerk, The Model. I know this one very well as it's one of the mainstay covers in my band's set. It has some silly but exceptionally cool lyrics: "She's a model and she's looking good, I'd like to take her home that's understood." and "She poses for consumer products now and then, For every camera she gives the best she can." Sheer brilliance. Music, John Miles is it? "Music was my first love, And it will be my last. Music of the future, And music of the past." Virtually any Led Zep song. U2, Even Better Than The Real Thing: "We'll slide down the surface of things." Always grates when I hear it. - ---------------------------------------- I don't know if the famous mis-heard song lyrics have made it to the States yet. A couple of my favourites: "Clown control to Mao-Tse Tung" "The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind" - ---------------------------------------- ObRobyn: the vinyl Storefront Hitchcock is out in the UK today. - ---------------------------------------- Okay, shameless publicity time again. Fly are back at the Rock Garden again this Wednesday, headlining this time. We're on at 11pm; entrance is £4. - -------------------------------- For latest Fly news, info and samples, go to: http://www.flyonline.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:37:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Clueless Arthouse Bah! My local arthouse cinema has booked Storefront Hitchcock *at*exactly*the*same*time* as Ivor Cutler plays the nearby Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. Don't they have a clue that they'll lose most of their [probably small] audience to this rare appearance of the Glasgow Dreamer in his home town? Makes me want to use the word 'spitchcock' [an eel, split, and grilled or fried] in anger. Mind you, this is the cinema whose film choice menu appears white-on-white, so I guess I can't expect too much of them. Please join me in a collective whinge to info@gft.org.uk Thanks, Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:40:17 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: stupid My favorite stupid lyrics are from a Wang Chung song - "Take your partner by the hair/Pull her close and there there there..." followed closely by "Take your partner by the ears..." Eh? n., in the winter of her discontent p.s. Yay!!!! Randi's back!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:02:47 -0600 (CST) From: JH3 Subject: Re: Glass prisoner >>Anyone else into "The Prisoner" '60s tv series? >Yup. I belong to Six of One, The Prisoner Appreciation Society. I also >have the entire series on video and laserdisc as well as all of the >soundtrack CD's and other supplemental materials that I have come across >over the years. Yes, but do you have a complete collection of Portmeirion china, designed by Susan Williams-Ellis? ***Including the glassware?*** >Truly Patrick McGoohan's work has changed my life as well >as I taught a high school unit on it. Hmmm, "Shadow Government Paranoia 101"? I once suggested that the wife show the "Arrival" episode in a college class she was teaching called "Advanced Preceptorial"... and she did! Any excuse not to do a lecture might have sufficed, I suppose. And they all fell asleep, anyway. I guess because there wasn't enough sex in it. >I just have to add that a few years ago I finally made my pilgramage to >"The Village". I stayed in one of the cottages there and, it being off >season, had the village virtually to myself. Many Happy Returns! JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:47:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Paragraph Hitchcock >>>>> "MARKEEFE" == MARKEEFE writes: MARKEEFE> Robyn's too MARKEEFE> dark and pychologically sophisticated to be considered MARKEEFE> "whimsical." But you said he was poppy! You can't have it both ways. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 99 11:42:38 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Stupid Lyrics Here's my dirty little Feg-confession: The lyric that makes me CRINGE the most in the whole world -- and bear in mind I am a fan of Lou Reed, Yes, *and* the Moody Blues -- is actually in a Robyn Hitchcock song! And to twist the knife, it's one of my favorite Robyn songs, a song which I love so much and yet contains this hideous specimen, this last four-word stanza that stands out like an pulsing red splotch of vile anti-oobleck twitching heavenwards from an otherwise emotionally harrowing terrain of beautiful bleakness -- "I feel like Judas But he got paid I'm doing this for free JUST LIKE LIVE AID." Aaaaarrrgghh! How many times have I prayed to Robyn that he would possibly change just that last line? To *anything* that rhymes with "paid," perhaps laid, stayed, blade, frayed, weighed, spayed? Would it pligget his glopple so badly just to do me that one small favor? Sigh. - --Quail, who *likes* when the mountains come out of the sky, and stand there. PS: Welcome back, Randi! It's good to have you back with the rest of us improxicables! PPS: Ray Thomas! Ray thomas pulled a knife! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:00:25 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Paragraph Hitchcock In a message dated 1/11/99 8:34:28 AM, you wrote: < Robyn's too MARKEEFE> dark and pychologically sophisticated to be considered MARKEEFE> "whimsical." But you said he was poppy! You can't have it both ways.>> Well, when I use the word "poppy," I just mean a song which has some hooks in it and a good, singable melody. Basically, it describes the music in the song, rather than (necessarily) the lyrics. So, maybe you meant the same thing by "whimsical" as I meant by "poppy," but I took "whimsical" as meaning something more like "carefree" or "dreamy" or "silly," none of which applies to my view of Robyn's songs. I just looked it up in the dictionary. Definition 1 is pretty much what I just said, but def. 2 is: 'characterized by erratic behavior or unpredictability.' That's definitely Robyn! Still, it's not the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear the word "whimsical." But, whatever. Semantics, for ya. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:13:35 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Storefront/Elliott Smith Reviews Well, as John, Jeme and Michael W. might have noticed, I didn't exactly make it through all of "Storefront Hitchcock" on Saturday night. Liz (my wife) was feeling sick. She offered to take a cab home, but I realized that I wasn't all the engaged in the movie anyway, so we left together. I don't know if things got substantially more interesting in the film after I left, but the whole thing seemed a little too selfconscious to me. Robyn seemed a little ill at ease and some of the monologue material felt forced and rehearsed. The subtle changes in backdrops and camera angles, on the other hand, was really well done. But the experience wasn't different enough from a Robyn show for me. In fact, I found myself constantly wishing that it were just a live show and, that way, we could applaud and there would be an exchange of energy and stuff like that. That all just falls in line with my overall take on recordings of live music: If ya ain't there to experience it, then you've missed out on way too much. Oh well. I hope everyone else had a good time. The big surprise for me was how much I enjoyed the Elliott Smith short films that "opened up" for Storefront. He has a good, playful sense of humor and seems like a really nice guy (although the second film, "Strange Paralells," could've had most of the last 5 minutes edited out). It made me want to give "Either/Or" another listen (I already really like "XO" but have yet to be able to really appreciate his older material). To my surprise, the films had the same effect on Liz (I would've thought Elliott to me too "mopey" for her tastes). So, for those of you who might get a chance, check 'em out. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:19:02 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: stupid On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Natalie Jane Jacobs wrote: > My favorite stupid lyrics are from a Wang Chung song - "Take your partner > by the hair/Pull her close and there there there..." followed closely by > "Take your partner by the ears..." Eh? I remember that one! Now how about Osibisa's: Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day Everybody, do what you're doing, tomorrow's gonna be a sunshine day There are a few more lines later in the song, but you can probably guess what they are... - - Mike Godwin PS Thanks for van Beethoven info! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:33:49 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Clueless Arthouse On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > Bah! My local arthouse cinema has booked Storefront Hitchcock > *at*exactly*the*same*time* as Ivor Cutler plays the nearby Glasgow > Royal Concert Hall. No contest, I'm afraid - catch an Ivor Cutler show while stocks last. Maybe he'll sing 'I'm going in a field', or read 'Spoon control'. He signed my copy of 'Gruts' last time he was in Bath, but he hasn't been back for 3 years or so. - - Mike Godwin "The muscular tree,the muscular tree,the muscular tree is the tree for me "Sprang sprang sprang" (Ivor Cutler) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:46:50 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: The Q word and the X word. Y? Y not? stupidest song lines? Stewart wrote: > Mark> Here are some Spanish blessings for you to enjoy: > >Babelfish at Altavista makes an amusing hash of them. I thought they were already that way to begin with! ;-) >- The mountains leave the sky and are stopped there? > >- her smelled father of berries of the elder?? "Go with cheese"?! Jesus Pineapple! ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) And here is the Quail's least favorite lyric translated into French, courtesy Babelfish- Je sais le feutre de Judas, mais lui est devenu payé. Je fais ceci pour libre, juste comme Live Aid. Vivien I think it still sort of rhymes, depending on how one pronounces 'paye.' Susan? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:18:01 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Stupid / embarrassing song lyrics Two I really can't stand: "Sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much." And who can forget Mr. Richie's fusion of MLK and 80's slang "I had a dream, I had an AWESOME dream." "Amaretto, amaretto, Ca-fe amaretto, Amaretto, amaretto, Ca-ca-ca-cafe amaretto." Jonco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:17:55 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) And it translates back into English thusly- I know the felt of Judas, but became to him paid. I do this for free, just as the Live Aid. Something got lost, je pense. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:01:45 -0800 (PST) From: griffith Subject: Crazy Diamond Box Set Fegs, Is the Syd Barrett set "Crazy Diamond" out of print? And, is it worth tracking down? Thanks griffith = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:03:45 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) Date sent: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: translations, stupid lyrics (I'm not saying the lyric is stupid, mind you, it was that philistinian bird) To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Send reply to: VIV LYON Pay - ay, with the accent on the second syllable. > And here is the Quail's least favorite lyric translated into French, > courtesy Babelfish- > > Je sais le feutre de Judas, mais lui est devenu payé. That means "I know the felt (as in cloth) of Judas", but he became paid". It ought to be more like "Je sais ce que Judas a senti, mais il a ete paye" (sorry, too lazy to do accents) or maybe "Je sais ce que Judas a senti, mais ils lui ont payees" ( 'I know what Judas felt, but they paid him', since the French to avoid subjective stentence structure to the point where they'll tell you a door closed itself -- 'la porte se ferme'). > Je fais ceci > pour libre, juste comme Live Aid. "Je fais ceci gratuitement." Libre means free in the sense of freedom. > > Vivien > I think it still sort of rhymes, depending on how one pronounces > 'paye.' Susan? Ross! (Pronounced by the French as though one were dislodging a large bolus of phlegm from the throat) The grammar's off the top of my head, and although I live in a predominantly French-speaking city I've got a mental block when it comes to that language, so you've plenty of opportunity here to point out glaring errors. I'm still better than Alta Vista. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Crazy Diamond Box Set On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, griffith wrote: > Fegs, > Is the Syd Barrett set "Crazy Diamond" out of print? > And, is it worth tracking down? > Thanks > griffith I'm pretty sure it's out of print. I haven't seen it in a very long time. I bought a copy several years ago (after someone made me a syd tape and I figured out how to listen to it). Thank you. I try very hard to construct sloppy sentences. but it really just includes Opel, Barrett, and The Madcap Laughs with bonus tracks that are studio outtakes. I don't think any of the bonus tracks don't appear otherwise on the album. Some of those outtakes are great stripped down versions with alternate lyrics and slightly altered melodies... some are Syd going utterly to pieces before your ears... and still a few others are records of the genesis of a particular classic Syd tune. At one point he says "Um... yeah... let's go... [someone speaks off mic] Oh... I guess it's called Dominoes." So that's fun. If you find it in print, let John Barrington Jones know. Nudge nudge. The booklet is really good and informative, but it's still just a booklet. Anyway, I love the thing. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:25:18 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: translations, stupid lyrics >And here is the Quail's least favorite lyric translated into French, >courtesy Babelfish- > >Je sais le feutre de Judas, mais lui est devenu payÈ. Je fais ceci >pour libre, juste comme Live Aid. The problem is that it can't quite go literally, so you come up with "I am familiar with the felt (felt as in cloth) of Judas, but him became paid already. I do this for freedom, right like Live Aid". French has two ways to say "know", and the one you need here is "connaitre" (to be familiar with, to know as in to know a person), not the one the babelfish gave "savoir" (to know as in to know a fact). "Juste" here could mean "just" in the sense that it would have in the lyric, but it kind of looks like "right" the way this would read in Francais. "Je connais ce que Judas lui a senti, mais il a ete paye/Je fais ceci gratuitement, exacement comme Live Aid" is the way I would render it. I can't seem to figure out how to type accents but there should be a right accent over both of the e s in "ete" and on the e in "paye", and you're right, that would be "pay-eh". That's literally "he was paid", which I have a feeling isn't quite right grammatically. Ross probably had the best way to render the meaning- "they paid him", but there really isn't any way to say it the way the lyric does. Bleh. I now think translators should be paid lots of money and given free Tylenol for life. Love on ya, Susan P.S. Thanks to Jon Fetter for mentioning the cringe lyric that I was going to. There's something about "I had a dream/I had an AWESOME dream" that's just......I don't think anything can quite touch that one. It makes me remember just how dire a threat it was when Joe Bob Briggs told someone that if he continued his present behavior, JBB would send Lionel Ritchie to compose songs in his front yard. P.P.S. Cringe title- Neil Diamond's "Velvet Gloves and Spit". There's something about that title that makes me recoil in horror. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: News for collector weenies (which in this case, includes myself) I deleted the part with direct phone numbers for Martin Lewis, Neil Innes and Geoff Baker (Paul McCartney's press agent). ;P Eb From: "Virgin Records Publicity" Subject: MYSTERY OF THE MISSING BEATLES SONGS IS SOLVED! Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:50:24 -0800 AND HERE'S ANOTHER CLUE FOR YOU FOLKS THE SONGS WERE A HOAX.... (with great apologies to The Beatles!) MYSTERY OF THE MISSING BEATLES SONGS IS SOLVED! FOUR RARE UNRELEASED TRACKS REVEALED TO BE A TEENAGE PRANK! For nearly 30 years, millions of Beatles fans around the world have been hoping for the release of four unreleased Beatles recordings -- songs so rare that they have been regarded as the 'Holy Grail' of Beatles music. Many major books on the Beatles list them as among the most sought-after titles. And scores of Internet websites run by hard-core Beatles fans list the songs and refer to their extreme rarity. The song titles are: COLLIDING CIRCLES PINK LITMUS PAPER SHIRT DECKCHAIR LEFT IS RIGHT (AND RIGHT IS WRONG) But now the Beatles world is being rocked with the news that the four songs never existed! That they were just the result of a mischievous throwaway teenage prank. Adding irony to the mix - the 1971 prank was the work of someone who has in recent years become one of the world's leading Beatles historians! And - adding a final amusing twist to the story - in a manner reminiscent of the famous 1969 "Paul is Dead" hoax - many Beatles fans who have recently been informed of the hoax still seem reluctant to believe that the songs don't exist! Hollywood-based British humorist and TV personality - MARTIN LEWIS - who is also a widely acknowledged Beatles authority - has confessed to being the culprit. The confession is the centerpiece of his new autobiographical one-man show (apty titled "Great Exploitations!") which premiered in a Los Angeles theater this weekend. In the wryly-comedic reminiscence, Lewis reveals how as a very young music journalist in London in the early '70's - he inserted the titles of four of his own Beatle-esque teenage compositions into an article on Beatles rarities he wrote for a respected British music periodical - Disc & Music Echo. His action at the time was just a little fun - and a way to pad out an article which he felt needed more song titles. He never anticipated what would follow. But that throwaway gag has grown into a monster that won't go away. Many years later Lewis discovered that other writers and authors had incorporated the erroneous information into their own listings of rare unreleased Beatles tracks. Several books have featured fictitious embellishments to Lewis's original information - mentioning instrumentation and recording dates! One respected author's Beatles book - which boasted chapter titles named after Beatles rarities - used three of Lewis's fake titles as chapter headings! Stephen Peeples - a very respected producer and researcher of "The Lost Lennon Tapes" - a Yoko Ono-sanctioned American radio series documenting unreleased John Lennon material told Lewis that he had spent 5 years searching through Lennon's unmarked tapes looking for one of the elusive songs - "Colliding Circles" ! Adding further mischief to the mixture, Lewis was indirectly responsible for planting additional 'clues' just two years ago - which further convinced fans of the existence of the fake songs. Humorist Lewis (who in the 70's and 80's produced all the "Secret Policeman's Ball" movies, shows and albums with Monty Python) conceived and executive-produced the 1996 reunion of Python-esque Beatles spoofsters - The Rutles. Their lampoon of the Beatles "Anthology" albums - "Archaeology" - was written by chief Rutle and Python songman, Neil Innes. Knowing of Lewis' playful 1971 fabrications - Innes paid tribute to the jape by incorporating the titles of the four long-sought-after Beatles tracks into the lyrics of one of the album's most mysterious songs - "Unfinished Words" Since all the Rutles' songs (since their 1977 debut) have always affectionately played off real Beatle songs, titles and lyrics - this mischievous act perpetuated the mythology. Lewis decided to reveal his 28 year-old teenage prank when he was commissioned to write and perform an autobiographical one-man show for a prestigious Los Angeles arts festival. (SOLO '99 - The Annual Festival Of One-Person Shows.) Having first confessed the story to his longtime friend, Beatles producer Sir George Martin (who considered the whole story "magnificent fun!") Lewis then wrote the show - which he premiered on Saturday January 9, 1999 at the "2100 Square Feet " theater in L.A. But Lewis first became aware of the reluctance of Beatles fans to accept the truth of his confession when he gave a workshop performance of the show at the annual official Beatles fan convention ("Beatlefest") in Los Angeles two months ago - in late November 1998 "I'd expected the fans to be a bit cross with me for having been responsible for benignly misleading them for 28 years. But to my surprise many of them had a different response. They refused to believe me! The more detail I gave them of my prank - the more they were convinced that I was making up my confession! One or two fans even told me that they knew of people who had claimed to have heard the rare recordings of songs that I know beyond any doubt don't exist!" Now that the story is public knowledge - (breaking in the Los Angeles Times - Sunday January 10th) a major debate is breaking out in the Beatles fan world - with fans dividing up between those who accept Lewis's confession and those who believe the confession itself to be a hoax and who remain convinced that the songs do exist in a Beatles vault! MEDIA WISHING TO ILLUSTRATE THIS STORY WITH THE RUTLES SONG WHICH INCORPORATES THE PHONY SONG TITLES - PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING: The album is by The Rutles. Album title: "Archaeology" The song title is "Unfinished Words" (Track 6) The album was released by Virgin Records in November 1996 DETAILS OF THE ONE-MAN SHOW REVEALING THE HOAX SONGS Details are available on the Martin Lewis Website General website address: http://www.martinlewis.com Show Info page: http://www.martinlewis.com/ge.html FOR DETAILS OF MARTIN LEWIS' CREDENTIALS AS LEADING BEATLES HISTORIAN http://www.martinlewis.com/beatles.html FOR GENERAL BIOGRAPHICAL DETAILS OF MARTIN LEWIS The Headlines: http://www.martinlewis.com/minute.html Comprehensive: http://www.martinlewis.com/full.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:19:32 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Miss me? James D mentioned (some time ago) >good to see Alexei Sayle mentioned on the list, though. YEAH! Anyone got a copy of the first two series of "Stuff" in US format? That show was incredible... >so... what is the state bird of California, anyway? Arriana Huffington. I'm back. Hope everyone's holidays were fun, fun fun. Engerland was nice. Bought a copy of Cambridge Folk Festival. Nice rekkid. Nothing I couldn't live without, but I was in HuMV in London and Americans aren't allowed to leave the shop until they've bought something. Besides, it was cheaper there than it was here-- about $12 vs. the import price of $21-$25. Other than that, not much. Drank some fine beer. Had some nice meals. Hung out for 10 days with my sweetie. Watched Jools Holland get absolutely ratted on his New Years' Eve broadcast. (Main artist featrued? The Corrs. They're fucking hideous. "Hi we're Irish and we're only wafer-thin. Now, here's a Fleetwood Mac song to tide you over...") Alla that sorta stuff. - -Doc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:10:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Must-See TV (more news from the media world) On January 22nd, Ben Folds and William Shatner will perform "In Love" (a track from Folds' new Fear of Pop solo project) on Conan O'Brien. Wooooow. Eb, who thought "The Prisoner" was astoundingly brilliant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:30:18 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "if it ain't country, it ain't music." this is *not* a travelogue. only capuch'n is allowed to post those. but i *did* drive down to portland yesterday to see the flick and meet with some of the portland fegs, so, i guess i'll tell you a little bit about it. the trip down was for the most part pretty uneventful. coupla items worth noting, though: - --listened to wesley willis all the way down, and all the way back. for those of you scoring at home, that's six, count 'em six, hours of nonstop wesley willis! are you proud of me, eb? - --somewhere in southern washington, the lady in the car in front of me decided to operate her wiper/washer equipment. no big deal, right? well, you shoulda seen the fucking "washer" half of the equation! it was spraying this *massive* jet of water *all the way over* her car, and directly onto *my* windshield! i shit you not! and i was following at the prescribed 2-second distance, too. i probably got three times as much water on my windshield as she did on hers. i was like, "score! free wiper fluid!" and of course proceeded to engage my wipers on "high" speed, even though my windshield was already more less clean. (now that i think about it, that's kind of capitalism in a nutshell, isn't it: scamming somebody else's wiper fluid for your own personal use, even when your windshield is already more less clean.) - --stopped at some gas station to use the head, and in the bathroom was a counter with some stuffed animals on it. so i rearranged two of them into the ol' 4-legged animals humping configuration. i figure probably two in three visitors into that restroom does the same thing, but i couldn't help myself. in fact, i suspect that the suits long ago sent down a memo charging the grunts with going into the restroom after each customer leaves it, and uncoupling the stuffed animals. so i got to portland all right, and drove straight to the theater to take a photo graph of the marquee. but there was *nothing* there advertising Storefront! nothing on the marquee, no poster, no anything! cheesed me right off. i guess michael wolfe's going to ream them out pretty good for the "oversight." (speaking of whom, mr. wolfe is yet another feg that i've met who didn't look like what i expected him to look like, judging by his posts. this keeps alive my perfect record in this category.) so then i finally found parking, and hoofed it over to jeme's apartment complex. rather than ringing in, i picked the lock and went directly up to his room. don't ever do this! jeme gave me "such a pranging" that i nearly drove right back home without seeing the movie! he also said that next time i did that, he'd beat me within a hairsbreadth of my life. uh, didn't find out the name of jeme's cat. sorry. so then we ate at a mexican restaurant, and met this weird guy called "alan." we almost convinced him to go and see the movie with us, but he had to catch a train out to beaverton to see his wife or something. which he could've done, and been back in time for the flick, if he hadn't spent the next hour and a half reciting poetry to us. finally, as we were getting ready to leave, he asked to "get a line" on jeme. jeme told him his name, and i added, "aka capuchin." without missing even a *quarter* of a beat, he launched into some story about how friends of his had had a capuchin, and it had performed all sorts of high-wire antics, but finally fell out of a tree one day. he kind of liked my robyn pen. "say ronald reagan, what the fuck are you doing in my house? get out of here, and don't come back if you ever come this way again i'll shoulder the weapon, and shoot the living shit out of you" --wesley willis anyways, as for the movie, i didn't like it *quite* as much as in frisco, simply because i wasn't then expecting it to be nearly as good as it is, and so was completely blown away by it then. i can't imagine watching it on the small screen. oh, i didn't hear any overdubs in the movie, and just a little reverb on Glass Hotel. let's hope they don't touch it up, the way they did the soundtracks, for the home video releases! after the movie carole, jeme, michael and myself spent several hours talking, in various locations (i.e., the theater lobby until we were kicked out, portland's public transportation system, ringler's until we got tired of the shitty service, jeme's apartment, etc.) about how fucking cool/amazing/righteous/fashionable ms. randi lynne spiegel is. and a little bit about The Big Lebowski. it was a grand time. i've said on many, many occasions, but i'll say it again: there isn't too much i enjoy doing more than hanging out with fegs. sorry you couldn't make it debora and vince, john and michael k.! and, where the hell was paul montagne?? i've said this in the company of fegs before. if you're driving from points south (san francisco, la for example) to seattle, the last leg, from portland to seattle, is the longest three hours of your life. but if you're just driving from portland to seattle, it goes by quicker than a damned nine-minute-snooze-alarm-timing. although last night took a little longer than usual, 'cause there was some heavy fog at some points (nothing unmanageable though. if you're good, fegs, someday i'll tell you about the time i drove, for seven-plus hellacious hours, through the thickest pea-soup anyone's ever seen. worse, everyone else in the car promptly went to sleep *and,* it was coming north out of la, so the only thing i could pick up, on either the am or the fm band, was friggin' rush limbaugh. ouch! by the way, if you're thinking, "ha! he's already unwittingly told us about it, so we don't have to be good!" you're oh so very wrong. i have but scratched the surface of that nightmare ride. but scratched the surface.) i love it. hal hates it. woj and doxto seem to be somewhere in the middle. don't recall seeing anybody else weigh in. well, he *was* planning, not a tour, but an exhibition at seattle's now-defunct vox pop gallery. i actually even heard him mention it in a radio interview. this was back in '94 or so, but it never panned out. so i suppose it's not *completely* out of the realm of possibility. god, that would be *really* fun! it always surprises me, quite a bit, how when you're watching a subtitled movie, that the songs and poems *always* seem to rhyme in *both* languages. in fact, i'd go so far as to say that it freaks me out some. in (partial) answer to my own question of last week: i was listening to a show from march of '94 the other day. in it, robyn mentioned andy, who, "plays bass for me." then later in the show, he said that he, andy, morris, *and* sean lyons, had begun work on SURFER GHOST. so, the egyptians hadn't broken up by march of '94. robyn also said in a bbc session in nov. '93, that they'd be working on the album from february through december. and it strikes me that none of these sessions, to my knowledge, have ever escaped into the tape-trading world. anybody care to correct me? anybody know if SURFER GHOST was actually completed? i think i saw woj mention that the museum is going to be offering a bunch of unreleased stuff for sale. let's hope this is among the offerings! just judging from that one bbc session, and the soft boys reunion tour, sean lyons was a smashing addition to the band. i'd really love to get my ears on SURFER GHOST, now knowing that he is on it. 1-800-ROBOTHAND ext. 2000 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #11 ******************************