From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #10 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 11 1999 Volume 08 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Cambridge Folk CD [Joel Mullins ] re: glass prisoner [Thomas Rodebaugh ] Check this out... [Nos Ferraatu ] Re: Check this out... [Bayard ] from randi - health, SH premiere, and dietary laws [Tim Fuller ] Re: Check this out... [cinders blue ] to boldly feg and stupid lyrics, plus divers alarums [james.dignan@stoneb] DAT trade anyone? [Bayard ] Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T [Terrence M Marks ] Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T [Eb ] Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T [Terrence M Marks ] Re: to boldly feg and stupid lyrics, plus divers alarums [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: The Q word and the X word. Y? Y not? stupidest song lines? [Stewart R] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 14:20:06 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Cambridge Folk CD Hey, what's the consensus on the Live at the Cambridge Folk Festival CD? I found it recently for $19.99, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on it. I'm a poor college student, not to mention a starving musician, so I rarely can afford to spend that much money all at once. I'd really like to get it just to add to my Robyn collection, but I'd like to hear what everyone thinks about it first. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:34:33 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: re: glass prisoner at the risk of doing a "me too" post. . . i also like the prisoner. i don't have quite as many supplementary materials as brett does, but it has worked its way well into my consciousness. it's fun looking for prisoner references in various places--because they do crop up in odd places. the simpsons, for instance. but then i've also developed the theory that for every actual prisoner reference in a given show/film/book a true prisoner fan will detect at least half a dozen additional possible references. . . speaking of paranoid systems that infiltrate one's mind, anyone into schwa at all? oh yeah, um, robyn hitchcock. . . um, glass hotel is a neat song to play on piano/keyboards. imho it's one of robyn's that translates best to the piano (aside from the ones he plays mainly on piano, i mean). tom ************************************************************************ *d a t a c o l l e c t i o n n o w a t 1/3!!!!!!* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:46:25 -0500 From: Nos Ferraatu Subject: Check this out... Hello, all... I was searching that bastion of free-trade this evening (eBay) when I came across this (it was part of a item description): Robyn Hitchcock created most of the images on the covers of his albums/t-shirts and such! He is planning a tour of the U.S. that is a combined art gallery show/acoustic performance of his latest paintings and music. Apparently (those of you who are fans probably already know this) Robyn's film directed by JONATHAN DEMME (silence of the lambs) and which features performances by Robyn .... Blah blah blah. The email address of the post-er was "mobocity@hotmail.com." Haven't contacted them, but thought to jump the gun and ask all of you if you knew what was up with this... Back to bottom-feeding. - -f. - -- Ferris! http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:55:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Check this out... > Robyn Hitchcock created most of the images on the covers of his > albums/t-shirts and such! He is planning a tour of the U.S. that is a > combined art gallery show/acoustic performance of his latest paintings > > The email address of the post-er was "mobocity@hotmail.com." Haven't > contacted them, but thought to jump the gun and ask all of you if you > knew what was up with this... In the Sonicnet chat, Mary asked Robyn if this was for real, and he said he had no current plans to do this. I think he said the same thing in the Q&A session after the SF premiere of Storefront. =b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from randi - health, SH premiere, and dietary laws Oh how do I miss thee Let me count the ways... You know what? I miss too many people...(or perhaps I'm afraid all these drugs will disable synapses in my brain)...and counting would be impossible ;} So, I haven't seen a feg-digest in weeks...oops almost forgot to say... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H A P P Y N E W YEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My resolution this year is to stay the hell away from hospitals, or health spa's as Marcy might say :} So, I just got home...really...just 10 minutes ago :} And you wonderful fegs are the first people to whom I'm writing. * * * * short story -- me leaving hospital * * * * So -- 6 mini surgeries, started chemotherapy again, and got a drug that is FDA approved, but not approved by "Health and Welfare Canada." Getting that drug, what an amazing story, I'm so proud of myself that I figured out *how* to get it : I suddenly realized that very religious Jewish people would have to go to a Kosher pharmacy; * * * * fun fact about jewish dietary laws {really!} * * * * For example -- many medications have gelatin in them, and gelatin is not kosher because it's extracted by boiling bones, hoofs, and animal tissues and its source could be an unkosher animal. Of course, there are other Jewish people think that the nature of the substance has changed sufficiently in the course of its manufacture that the original matter is inert...thus removing it from the category of a food item. * * * * Ha! Bet you won't be eatin' your jello tonight boys and girls ;} Anyway, found a Kosher drugstore, and because of the nature of these complicated dietary laws, the pharmacist has a license to import drugs into Canada. And that is the story of how Randi got "Remicade" or 'infliximab.' I'll say one more health thing -- if you know anyone who has Crohn's Disease, please please please tell her/him about "Remicade" or give out my email addy...just let me know first :} * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now here is some neat Robyn news... While I was in the hospital, I needed a project to focus on. When I had internet access...I was able to correspond with so many cool fegs...but once the nurses started moving me from room to room...the net access became impossible; the hospital wanted $85.00 for EACH room to hook me up. So, instead, I started envisioning a Canadian "Storefront Hitchcock" Premiere Gala. Then I stopped imagining and went to work. Robyn and Deni have agreed, and I'm trying to work out schedules, getting a print of SH, and confirming a theatre. Cross your fingers, I might get _the_ theatre I want! Oh, I'm hoping on having Tim K. there too, haven't figured that part out yet. So I'm budgeting, working, making phone calls {you should hear my authoritative phone voice ;} and I am going to pull it off...{that's the authoritative business me, not the shy, scared, "oh my G-d what am I doing I must be crazy" me.} So if I get SH here...I hope I can meet some fegs in person...Detroit and Montreal aren't that far away -- Ross and Natalie and the Mary who always lurks ;} ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ truly the most important part ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't even know how to begin to explain how much the people on this list have helped and supported me. All I know is there are a ton of packages sitting next to me right now...and it's all stuff from fegs. Do you all realize how wonderful you are? So many sweet and considerate emails were sent to me, fegs called me at the hospital, and people truly and honestly thought about me, offering kind words, shoulders to lean on, prayers............. and knowing exactly what to put in "care packages," and what to write in cards. You all did so much for me and my spirit and gave me hope and strength -- and you don't even know me! I could be some horrible, yucky, bitchy person -- {-- for the record I'm not ;} - -- and all you've ever read are my posts and private emails, and that *alone* brought out the kindness and generosity of your spirits. That is one of the most amazing treasures I have ever been so privileged to receive. I think that you are all wonderful people...perhaps it goes without saying that I did mention all of this to Robyn...he sends his greetings. So if any feg has ever wondered what s/he has done or given to help someone else...remember me...because I will remember you. for now I'll fade back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Rand *There is no beautifier of complexion, or form, or behavior, like the wish to scatter joy and not pain around us* - Ralph Waldo Emerson *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock *the longer you hide...the more you deny* - Neil Finn btw -- many personal emails to come as I work through my mail this weekend...but big hugs of goodness and thanks to you all for the most precious gift I've ever had. :} ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:10:41 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: Virus Alert] Joel and fegdom at large: Before worrying any about this or forwarding to anyone else, check out the Data Fellows Anti-Virus HOAX warnings page: http://www.datafellows.fi/news/hoax.htm and more specifically: http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/hjesus.htm As usual, the reports of your hard drive's demise are greatly exaggerated. Eric On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: (lots of forwarded headers deleted) Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 8:23 PM This is a bad one!! VIRUS WARNING !!!!!!! If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus'" DO NOT open. It will erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it. This information was announced yesterday morning from IBM; please share it with everyone that might access the Internet. Once again, pass this along to EVERYONE in your address book. Don't lookat any mail that says "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER." This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. AOL has said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO remedy for it at this time. Please practice cautionary measures and forward this to all your online friends ASAP. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:36:25 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: Re: Check this out... also sprach Nos Ferraatu: >I was searching that bastion of free-trade this evening (eBay) when I >came across this (it was part of a item description): for the record, the description that ferris was quoting from is for that lemonhead lithograph. apparently, it is up on the auction block again. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:25:22 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: to boldly feg and stupid lyrics, plus divers alarums >I think I'l like to compile a list of what I think are the >stupidest song lines ever. They have to be embarrassingly >stupid, so bad you can't say them without throwing or >cracking up. Perhaps this is a start: "and if this ever changing world in which we live in..." (Live & Let Die, McCartney) who'll be the first to mention mountains just standing there? Or do I have a sneaking Spanish suspicion that it's been done already? How about the Motorhead classic "Killed by Death"? >>Anyone else into "The Prisoner" '60s tv series? >> >> --Jeff > >Yup. I belong to Six of One, there are people of real taste on this list! But who is number one? > [Fwd: Fw: Virus Alert] oh no... not again... >FYI: This year, because of usage, (was it Oxford's?) an >English grammar standard was changed to allow split >infinitives. A lot of Star Trek fans are sleeping easier, >knowing how well the words of James Tiberius Kirk foretold >the future of grammar as we know it. ah...Kirk was able to correctly split that infinitive! James (JRED, not JTK) (and after I'd learnt to never split infinitives, too...) PS - in my comments about Ken's non-use of the X word, I forgot to say thanks for typing in that article. 'Twas much appreciated. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:26:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: DAT trade anyone? for some reason I am missing the Cafe Largo shows from a year ago. January 9 and 10. There were also two gigs in June right? I'd love to trade for these on DAT or CDR. I'd like to keep it digital as I hear there are lots of contenders in these shows for the next rarities compilation. So if you have DATs, please get in touch. And of course I will reward you handsomely with a bunch of prime unreleased Robyn material. =b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > I gather that Vic Chesnutt will perform on Conan O'Brien tonight, backed by > Lambchop! Don't miss out. Well, I didn't miss it. Was it supposed to sound like that, or was it as disappointing as I think it was? Also, has anyone that High Llamas remix album? Is it good, or is it just pretty much like the originals, only with less vocals? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu np-The Dukes of Stratosphear:Chips from the Chocolate Fireball ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:49:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > >> I gather that Vic Chesnutt will perform on Conan O'Brien tonight, backed by >> Lambchop! Don't miss out. > >Well, I didn't miss it. >Was it supposed to sound like that, or was it as disappointing as I think >it was? Why flaunt your feebleness? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:22:55 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Eb wrote: > >Well, I didn't miss it. > >Was it supposed to sound like that, or was it as disappointing as I think > >it was? > > Why flaunt your feebleness? Well, I'm not going to deny that I have trouble distinguishing between good music and music that I like, which is why I asked. (And similarly with bad music and music I don't like.) Mr. Chesnutt's latest appearance left me quite unimpressed. I rather liked "About to Choke". There were some bad tracks, but there were quite a few good ones, and the album presented a sincere, unified...presentation. On The Conan O'Brian Show, everything seemed rather quickly thrown together and it didn't quite fit. I didn't catch most of the lyrics, but the rhymes seemed too 'easy'; I don't know how exactly to explain what I mean by this. The music for the verse was interesting, but the rest of the music seemed to have too many people playing together with not enough direction. In the intro, the brass and keyboard (or maybe it was distorted guitar) didn't sound right together, and during the rest of the song, Lambchop and the Max Weinberg 7 seemed like an uneasy fit. In terms of appearance, you had the MW7 on the left, Lambchop on the right and some kid in a wheelchair chewing on a guitar in center stage. There didn't seem to be any sense of "Let's present an image" in terms of appearance or music. Additionally, Vic seemed less sincere. Maybe it was a good song, and maybe it was a good performance, but it was badly produced and badly packaged, I say. Now, I was wondering if the rest of you were thinking "You know, he was a little off tonight" or if it was just me. That's why I posted. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:18:54 -0800 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: to boldly feg and stupid lyrics, plus divers alarums At 5.25 PM -0800 1/9/99, James Dignan wrote: >>>Anyone else into "The Prisoner" '60s tv series? >>> --Jeff >> >>Yup. I belong to Six of One, > >there are people of real taste on this list! But who is number one? Hey, this is what I get for spending the last three weeks in Romania! I missed the list just when the Prisoner is mentioned! (No access to e-mail and all that). Oh, and with your various weather watches let me mention that I spent nearly 3 weeks in approximately -10 to -22F. Temperatures this native Californian has never experienced!!! Having hosted several Prisoner "marathons" and being a fan since the first airing in America, I can say that it still holds as the most astounding thing to ever air on the tube (but granted I missed anything since 1974 EXCEPT "Flying Circus"). Hum, 1974... Feels like a song... I just have to add that a few years ago I finally made my pilgramage to "The Village". I stayed in one of the cottages there and, it being off season, had the village virtually to myself. It was eerie beyond belief. I liked it but it was strange. I walked all over the village and in the woods. I walked along the beach and spent a morning on the stone boat. God it was strange. And guess what, the hotel airs two prisoner episodes each night! That makes it all the more creepy. MIssed you all. Happy New Year. La Multe Ani (as they say in Romania). I gave up trying to catch up and am just going forward from this day on with the posts... Be Seeing You, - - Carrie ps: Randi - glad to hear all is well and you are out of the hospital. I was genuinely worried from your lack of posting... The Great Hmuh - where's the rest of the "twas the night before fegdom" posting??? "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:55:29 +0100 From: Victor Schiferli Subject: Re: to boldly feg and stupid lyrics At 14:25 10-01-99 +1300, James Dignan wrote: >>I think I'l like to compile a list of what I think are the >>stupidest song lines ever. They have to be embarrassingly >>stupid, so bad you can't say them without throwing or >>cracking up. I remember a Swedish hardrock band called Europe (ca. 1985) who sang a song, "The Final Countdown", which may count as one of the most stupid ones ever to be heard in this galaxy: "We're heading for Venus And still we stand tall Cause maybe they've seen us And welcome us all" And what about Supertramp's "The Logical Song": "Oh, won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, oh, presentable, a vegetable!" Finally, Bruce Cockburn never fails to make me cringe with his humorless, political correct musings as in "Call it Democracy" (the title alone!): "Padded with power here they come International loan sharks backed by the guns Of market hungry military profiteers Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared With the blood of the poor" Back to lurking mode, Victor Schiferli ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:30:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: The Q word and the X word. Y? Y not? stupidest song lines? >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Gloster writes: Mark> "Quirky" is a word for which most of us who are have lost Mark> appreciation. Add it to the catechism of cliche: What kind of music is Robyn Hitchcock's? It is quirky music. Mark> It is a word that works like "foods craps." 'Ort' is a better word. In fact, this time of year is perfect for an 'Ort Party': serve leftovers, and everyone must bring an unwanted gift and give it to someone else. Mark> "Xians" through usage But are we 'in the full flower of [our] southern metropolitan Xtian manhood'? [If anyone gets that reference, I'm impressed!] Mark> FYI: This year, because of usage, (was it Oxford's?) an Mark> English grammar standard was changed to allow split Mark> infinitives. Carping over split infinitives is only the domain of the tiresome grammarian. Even the scrupulously correct Fowler (in 1923) said that it was usually more awkward to avoid a split infinitive than to put up with the perceived error of using one. Heck, Collins said "The traditional rule against placing an adverb between 'to' and its verb is gradually disappearing." long before the PR people at Oxford claimed to have changed this "rule" of the English language. Tupac Shakur put it best when he said, "Fuck all y'all." Mark> Here are some Spanish blessings for you to enjoy: Babelfish at Altavista makes an amusing hash of them. - - The mountains leave the sky and are stopped there? - - her smelled father of berries of the elder?? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #10 ******************************