From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #2 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, January 3 1999 Volume 08 : Number 002 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Misc (Soul Coughing/TMBG/Metronomes/etc.) [Aaron Mandel ] My 1998 top ten lists [dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders)] Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) [S Dwarf ] Re: Storefront Portland??!!! [lobstie@e-z.net] Re: Storefront Portland??!!! [lobstie@e-z.net] drink recipies [Patrick Welker ] Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) [dlang ] Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) [overbury@mustang.cn.ca] Re: "Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski." [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Misc (Soul Coughing/TMBG/Metronomes/etc.) On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > Is Soul Coughing's new album any good? yes. > I've heard "circles" and it sounds very very generic that guitar that falls out of key does it for me, but in any case -- > (I had their previous two albums, and while there were some standout > tracks [like Down to This, Is Chicago or Super Bon Bon] the album as a > whole left me pretty nonplussed). it sounds like you like the harder rap songs best. El Oso doesn't have nearly as many lyrics as the other two, which disappointed me. there are four or five full-fledged raps, mostly over drum-n-bass beats. a few more songs are in the vein of "Disseminated" or "4/5", there's one other "Circles"-like happy sing-along, and a few totally disposable tracks. (i should say that when they played live, songs i thought were disposable turned out great.) > Is the album worth listening to? yes. i haven't found anyone else who sounds like Soul Coughing (Trenchmouth and Skeleton Key both sort of do, but they're junkier and funkier), so i'll listen to anything by them. but it sounds like you''d enjoy at least some of it. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) just forwarding this to the list because it was a part of an earlier thread. - ---------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:20:22 -0800 From: Terry Koleszar To: no-more-songs@cs.pdx.edu Subject: Capitalism is killing music Here's a bit of news from Canada - As of today, the cost of blank CD-ROMs and audio cassettes are substantially increased because of a new tax from the government. The new tax will add about $2.50 onto a $2.00 blank CD-ROM. Blank audio cassettes will go up by 1 cent / minute (that is, a 90-minute tape will be 90 cents more). I'm not sure if this increase will be taxed by GST/PST - if so, then the true increase in the province of Ontario will be $2.88 (7% GST + 8% PST) for blank CDs. This tax will be paid out to Canadian musicians for net losses from home taping. This whole thing stinks for many reasons. Most of the money raised will go to established and successful Canadian acts that don't really need the extra money (such as Alanis Morissette and the Barenaked Ladies, for example). It is a highly regressive tax that comes from the pocket of the consumer. Worse still is the effects it will have on the independent musicians. For the independents, the only way to get your music out is to make and release a self-funded audio tape or CD. In recent years, the cost of making a 1000 CDs, for example, has dropped significantly. This new tax will add an extra $2500 on top of their investment. So much for the argument that this tax is to help musicians. I remember the "Home taping is killing music" campaign from the mid-eighties, and I always had a problem with it. I think that home taping only hurts mainstream acts who get regular radio airplay. I suspect that lesser-known acts actually benefit from homemade tapes. I'm sure that a number of people on this list got their introduction to Phil Ochs from a homemade tape that someone gave them (that's how I first heard him). That didn't stop me from buying his music - on the contrary, I went out and bought up as much of his music as I could find. I know that I've made up lots of mixed tapes for friends and co-workers to introduce them to different music than what they'd hear on the radio. I even made up a CD for an American friend introducing her to about 20 different Canadian artists. Despite what the government might think, I say that only helps the musicians. I have a lot of independent music in my collection. I don't like the idea that the cost of independent CDs will increase by $2.50 because of a government/music establishment cash grab. Anyway, that's enough New Year's ranting for today (maybe last night's celebrating made me bitter today). I hope everyone had a good New Year's, and I wish everyone good luck. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:49:05 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Cricket & Star Trek (XTC content 5%) > Anyone who thinks the Monkees were not worth listening to as they did >not play their instruments and were totally manufactured needs to hear >this and read some of the facts behind the fallacies (such as that >several of the Monkees top songs were written, produced and played by the >Monkees with only one session musician, bassist John London. I thought it was bassist Chip Douglas (formerly of The Turtles) who played bass on a fair amount of Headquarters. (And on the previous albums, the Monkees didn't play or write much at all, and on the following albums, PAC&J was assisted by a small number of session men, but neither Micky nor Davy played on more than two songs on that album. And past that, they were back to the "small army of session men" thing, and didn't have many top songs.) > yup - I've also noticed that the best Star Trek is when they're not taking > themselves seriously. They obviously had a lot of fun with the Tribbles > episode of the original series, the Whales movie, and (TNG's) Data > impersonating Sherlock Holmes. Haven't seen enough of the other spin-off > series to know whether they follow the trend, butfrom what I've seen Star > Trek is definitely at it's most enjoyable when they're taking the piss out > of themselves. I dunno. I wasn't too keen on Star Trek IV (there's some listmember who'd be extremely affected, negatively or positively, if they had used Yes' "Don't kill the whale" in that one, but I can't quite remember who) and the Sherlock Holmes episodes of TNG didn't impress me *that* much. And as for the spin-offs, Deep Space 9 seems to be at its best with that ongoing "War with the Dominion" plotline; I prefer it to the other Star Trek series now that the show got going because it's well-written, interesting and its characters are cooler than those of the other series. It generally takes itself seriously. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:54:59 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Storefront Portland??!!! Hey all PDX Fegs! I just got a voice mail message here at the store from a customer who knows I'm into Robyn who says that Storefront Hitchcock (the film!) will be showing at the Guild Theater (now part of the Northwest Film Center) on January 9th and 10th. I haven't been able to confirm this, and I don't know how he found out about it. Maybe it's on the sign at the theater? No one's at the NWFC until Jan. 5th (I think their voice mail said), and their update only goes up through Jan. 7th. Jeme, John, Carole, Michael W.? Anybody know how we can find out? If this is true, then I am ONE happy camper! :-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:23:25 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Storefront Portland??!!! In a message dated 99-01-02 13:57:28 EST, you write: << Hey all PDX Fegs! I just got a voice mail message here at the store from a customer who knows I'm into Robyn who says that Storefront Hitchcock (the film!) will be showing at the Guild Theater (now part of the Northwest Film Center) on January 9th and 10th. I haven't been able to confirm this, and I don't know how he found out about it. Maybe it's on the sign at the theater? No one's at the NWFC until Jan. 5th (I think their voice mail said), and their update only goes up through Jan. 7th. Jeme, John, Carole, Michael W.? Anybody know? >> Found it! Yes, there will be two showings: Saturday, January 9th at 9:15 and Sunday the 10th at 7:30. It looks like there will also be a bonus showing of the Elliott Smith documentary "Strange Parallel," as well as something called "Lucky Three" (the day the band The Dirty Three won at the races?). I'm guessing the Elliott Smith factor could make this a pretty popular event. I think we should all camp out overnight to get the best seats. Well, we should at least get there kinda early. YEA!!! Oh, here's the link/url: Northwest Film Center: Exhibition - Now Playing http://www.nwfilm.org/exhibition_nowplaying_body.html - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 12:39:18 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski." historical revisionism at the museum: did you know that... - --the vinyl releases of UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT list it as The Queen Of Eyes, rather than Queen Of Eyes??? i did not, until yesterday, when i was attempting to come up with a list of incorrectly printed songs on record sleeves. the cd lists it as Queen Of Eyes, which is bad enough. but, the museum's disco. entry for the *vinyl* release lists it as Queen Of Eyes also! i *have* known that the nigel and the crosses 7" lists it as The Queen Of Eyes. but i always assumed *this* was a mistake. - --the vinyl release of I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS lists it (the song) as "I Often Dream Of Trains", rather than I Often Dream Of Trains (that is, it's got quotes around the title, much like david bowie's "Heroes." in fact, exactly like david bowie's "Heroes.") the rhino cd doesn't feature the quotes. and i don't know about the midnight cd, 'cause i sold that one like the damned fool that i am. but, again, the museum's disco. lists the vinyl entry without the quotes. - --both the vinyl and cd releases of QUEEN ELVIS list it as The Devils Coachman (without the apostrophe,) but, once more, the museum's disco. lists it with the apostrophe. - --the vinyl (forgot to check the cd) releases of GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT! lists it as Leppo & The Jooves, rather than Leppo And The Jooves (as it's listed on A CAN OF BEES.) the museum's disco., if you haven't guessed, lists it as Leppo And The Jooves. - --the vinyl (again, forgot to check the cd) release of EYE lists it as 'Chinese Water Python' (with the british quotation marks.) and, uh, the museum does not. you can see my quandary, of course: which is the "correct" spelling of any given song? is it the spelling on the original album release? is it the spelling on the very first release, whether album or single? is it the spelling on subsequent vinyl and/or cd reissues? is it the spelling on the museum's discography? yeah, yeah, i know. i'm the only one who even *remotely* gives a fuck (exception that proves the rule, maybe: john partridge.) but for what it's worth, i'm leaning towards the first option (which will be rather agonizing, i might add, as it means i'm going to have to fucking go through and change all my setlists....) politics at the museum: GROOVY DECAY is listed in the museum's disco., but there's no link to it. in other words, you can't can't click on it and see the cover, catalog info., and tracklisting. on the other hand, GROOVY DECOY does have a link to it. oh, i was listening to an interview the other day from '89. robyn said that he likes a few songs on each of the albums, but that the egyptians are "incomparably" better live. he then said that he'd like to record a live album of entirely new songs, but that he didn't think the record company would allow it. too bad! yeah, i know the feeling. makes you feel all unclean, doesn't it? i posted similar words some time ago (except that the ones i posted were really stupid. well, not the words themselves, but, the order in which i arranged them.) but, yes, i think the song placement on ELIXIR is just about *divine,* and this linkage *always* strikes me. what makes it work especially well, in my opinion, is the long gap between the finish of You And Oblivion and the start of This Is How It Feels. although i guess i don't think i'd call You And Oblivion "beautiful." it's too harrowing to be beautiful. really? james mentioned that one is coming together, but, what have been the stakes up until now? just general bragging rights? is there a purse? how has it been determined which sides will compete in test matches? do test matches have those *icky* corporate sponsorships like our college bowl games do? (even the rose bowl has finally succumbed to the dark side! it's now "presented" by at&t. yuck! yuck! yuck!) the soccer world cup is only played once every four years, incidentally. and the qualifying is regional. he *does* make a decent living, and has stated as much on numerous occasions. i've even heard him say things like, sometimes he wishes he could phase out the music portion of his life and concentrate more on painting. (he finds writing songs an "inefficient," use of his time because the "casualty rate" is so high. like, only 1 in 3 songs that he writes ever even gets performed.) but he can't do so, because writing songs is what pays the bills. <>I'm looking forward to the new star wars flick Me too - in spite of Eddie's misgivings.> don't think i could have misgivings about something that hasn't been released yet, especially something i'm not even involved in creating. i just think it's going to be a major disappointment is all. <>It looks like TPM is pretty much an action film, so the real test will be >how well Lucas sets up the foreshadowing of Anakin's fall. This is good news - action usually serves these types of films better> well, i don't know. would you call 2001 an action movie? would you call Lawrence Of Arabia an action movie? would you call Dune an action book? (i will not discuss the genre, or any other details of Dune: the movie, because it sucks. sorry quail. but that's it.) i think words and plot would serve this story quite a bit better than action and special effects. because it's so psychaedramatic, you know? like, how much fucking scarier was it that, at the fateful moment, frodo claimed mastery over the ring, rather than simply disposing of it? thanks! i found another copy of a february performance, so i'll be adding that. and i'm thinking about tackling all the different live variations of the closing bit of Heaven, although that promises to be a *very* time-consuming project. their dial-a-song is at their website, too. i once decided that i was going to tape them all, but quit after only two or three. just got too lazy. a friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, had me installing some pirated microsatan software once. so, i came to some part about how if you're not the legal owner of this software, you MUST cease installing it right now. i kind of laughed, and continued, but figured i should at least mention it to him. so when he came back into the room, i told him that, and he deadpanned, "oh, then i guess we'd better stop." so convincingly did he say it that i shrieked, "oh, really?" but then he just started cracking up, and said that when they ask for the name of the rightful owner of the software, he usually just puts "mickey mouse" or "fuck you" or "up yours." i got quite a good laugh out of that! not wandered off in a huff, no. but abducted by giant bees (with an "agenda,") perhaps. holy moly! no way i can make it saturday, but i might be able to swing sunday. is that okay with y'all? eb, .chris, you guys gonna be there, or what? you left us waiting in the cold dark in frisco. now's your collective chance to make up for it. "nobody, but nobody eats the simpsons!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:59:07 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Storefront Portland??!!! On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > Northwest > Film Center: Exhibition - Now Playing > http://www.nwfilm.org/exhibition_nowplaying_body.html boys and girls! This is the best news in the whole fucking world. The theater is ACROSS THE STREET from the block on which I live. I live one block away. I must only leave my apartment and walk one block to get to the theater! Fuck yeah! Who's comin'? YOWZA! I'm dying here... jumping up and down. Woo hoo! My place... before or after... Or somewhere else. YES! Let's plan. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:55:29 -0800 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: My 1998 top ten lists Well, it's certainly been a big year for me. Discoveries: Stump Yo La Tengo Al Franken Neutral Milk Hotel Mervyn Peake Dan Bern John Ralston Saul Throwing Muses Philip K. Dick Iain M. Banks Big Star Dukes of Stratosphear Oingo Boingo Kraftwerk Boomtown Rats John Cale Bob Mould Lou Reed Richard Thompson The Clash The Chills King Crimson Garage rock Eric Bogosian Flann O'Brien Morcheeba Liz Phair Top ten albums I heard for the first time this year: 1. Nuggets: the Box Set (yes!!) 2. Days For Days - The Loud Family 3. Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan 4. A Fierce Pancake - Stump 5. In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel 6. Chips off the Chocolate Fireball - Dukes of Stratosphear 7. Berlin - Lou Reed 8. Smartie Mine - Dan Bern 9. Fear - John Cale 10. whitechocolatespaceegg - Liz Phair + Storefront Hitchcock LP Movies: 1. The Truman Show 2. American History X 3. Shakespeare In Love 4. Life Is Beautiful 5. Saving Private Ryan 6. A Bug's Life 7. The Big One (not sure if this was this year) 8. Bulworth 9. Pleasantville 10. Men With Guns Runners up: The Spanish Prisoner Elizabeth There's Something About Mary Smoke Signals And I haven't seen A Simple Plan or Last Night. It seems to me that this was a good year for movies. Did anyone see Siskel & Ebert today? Their top ten lists were pretty wacky if you ask me. Siskel included Antz but neither said a Bug's Life, Ebert chose Dark City as his favourite movie, Truman Show got mentioned once, and at position #6. Must've been hopped up on something, those couple of crackheads. Cheers to everyone, and have a Prince-free New Year (unless you don't want to). And yes, I am looking forward to paying Our Lady Peace a few cents every time I buy a cassette to record one of my CDs on for the purpose of listening to on my walkman. Just how the hell did this happen? Is the canadian music industry really going broke because of piracy. I thought Canada was a democracy. Shouldn't we have been able to stop this damn thing before it started?! - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:31:10 -0800 (PST) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) > Here's a bit of news from Canada - > > As of today, the cost of blank CD-ROMs and audio cassettes are > substantially increased because of a new tax from the government. The new > tax will add about $2.50 onto a $2.00 blank CD-ROM. Blank audio cassettes > will go up by 1 cent / minute (that is, a 90-minute tape will be 90 cents > more). time to start a black market flooding of cassette and cd-r's for canadian fegs? for canandian non-fegs? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:18:33 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Re: Storefront Portland??!!! We are so there! Parrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Can you tell I'm excited? Someone up there (or over there) (or over here) must like us. - -john On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-01-02 13:57:28 EST, you write: > > << Hey all PDX Fegs! I just got a voice mail message here at the store from > a customer who knows I'm into Robyn who says that Storefront Hitchcock (the > film!) will be showing at the Guild Theater (now part of the Northwest Film > Center) on January 9th and 10th. I haven't been able to confirm this, and I > don't know how he found out about it. Maybe it's on the sign at the theater? > No one's at the NWFC until Jan. 5th (I think their voice mail said), and > their > update only goes up through Jan. 7th. Jeme, John, Carole, Michael W.? > Anybody know? >> > > Found it! Yes, there will be two showings: Saturday, January 9th at > 9:15 and Sunday the 10th at 7:30. It looks like there will also be a bonus > showing of the Elliott Smith documentary "Strange Parallel," as well as > something called "Lucky Three" (the day the band The Dirty Three won at the > races?). I'm guessing the Elliott Smith factor could make this a pretty > popular event. I think we should all camp out overnight to get the best > seats. Well, we should at least get there kinda early. YEA!!! Oh, here's > the link/url: > > Northwest > Film Center: Exhibition - Now Playing > http://www.nwfilm.org/exhibition_nowplaying_body.html > > -------Michael K. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Re: Storefront Portland??!!! two words jeme-- WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO! On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Capuchin wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > > Northwest > > Film Center: Exhibition - Now Playing > > http://www.nwfilm.org/exhibition_nowplaying_body.html > > boys and girls! > > This is the best news in the whole fucking world. > > The theater is ACROSS THE STREET from the block on which I live. > > I live one block away. > > I must only leave my apartment and walk one block to get to the theater! > > > Fuck yeah! > > Who's comin'? > > YOWZA! > > I'm dying here... jumping up and down. > > Woo hoo! > > My place... before or after... Or somewhere else. YES! > > Let's plan. > J. > ________________________________________________________ > > J A Brelin Capuchin > ________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:11:48 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Welker Subject: drink recipies Does anyone know drink would be created if you nix, Captain Morgan Orig. Spiced Rum, pineapple juice, a few squirts of lemon juice? I dunno' the quantity of each ingredient, I just threw it into a blender. And hot damn. It pretty good shit. Pat, who on cold snowy days like these. NEVER GIVES IN to a Cleveland winter! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:42:41 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) I wasn't sure about posting this as it might start off the political debate again, but hell, I'm gonna do it anyway 'Capitalism is killing everything , not just music ' Fundamentally I agree with Eddie, its a fucking sick system and the worlds getting a lot sicker because of it . happy noo year dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:44:26 +0000 From: overbury@mustang.cn.ca Subject: Re: Capitalism is killing music (fwd) > > Here's a bit of news from Canada - > > > > As of today, the cost of blank CD-ROMs and audio cassettes are > > substantially increased because of a new tax from the government. > > time to start a black market flooding of cassette and cd-r's for > canadian fegs? for canandian non-fegs? The tax is only applicable on audio and digital recording media that have "never been used" to record music. The last time they tried to do this sort of thing was on a provincial level, with video cassettes. As a result, a black market developed with small retailers selling video tape for cash. Neither the copyright infringement levy nor the usual sales taxes were collected. I have wondered about the possibility of some entrepreneur selling CD-R with one demo song on them from an unsigned band, since that gets around the "never been used" clause. The absolutely crazy thing about this is that the tax (sorry, it's a "levy", not a tax) is in effect already and the retailers will be responsible for remittance of this money to the government as of Jan 1, but the amount is yet to be set! I've yet to see how this has effected prices, but is the retailer supposed to guess what the eventual liability will be? This seems like an open invitation for a black market. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:12:33 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: "Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski." On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > --the vinyl releases of UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT list it as The Queen Of > Eyes, rather than Queen Of Eyes??? oddly disturbing. > --the vinyl release of I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS lists it (the song) as "I > Often Dream Of Trains", rather than I Often Dream Of Trains as does the Midnight CD. > --the vinyl (again, forgot to check the cd) release of EYE lists it as > 'Chinese Water Python' (with the british quotation marks.) and, uh, the > museum does not. the CD does. > yeah, yeah, i know. i'm the only one who even *remotely* gives a fuck not true! i think it's more of a case-by-case decision, though. with the quotes, i can't imagine how they would get there unless robyn wanted them, while it's easy to see how they could be dropped in haste. on the other hand, i don't understand why one would remove the apostrophe from "devil's" except in error. a ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #2 *****************************