From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #489 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 29 1998 Volume 07 : Number 489 Today's Subjects: ----------------- question about K records single [Rob Gronotte ] another annoying list for you...woo! [Eb ] re: answer about K records single [Christopher Donnell ] Re: Leif Garrett - my hero! [Chris ] Re: another annoying list for you...woo! [Capuchin ] Re: Boxing Day [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Boxing Day ["Capitalism Blows" ] Fwd: Re: Re: boxing day? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] the ongoing climb to world domination [Eb ] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: boxing day? [amadain ] Boxing Day Follies [The Great Quail ] Re: Boxing Day [Danielle ] Re: Boxing Day (cricket addendum) [Danielle ] Re: another annoying list for you...woo! [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: boxing day? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] I'm off to my love with my boxing glove [VIV LYON ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: question about K records single Is the version of "Man With A Woman's Shadow" on the 7" exactly the same as the version on the later "Moss Elixer" album? Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:48:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: another annoying list for you...woo! Well, I've seen exactly two of these films (#2 and #15 -- and the X Files film was very weak). And there are only three others which I'd even sit through (#3, #10, #14). Blah. I don't remember "Rush Hour" at all...who was in that? Eb, still fearing for this world ;) Associated Press Sunday December 27 3:26 PM ET Top-Grossing Movies of 1998 By The Associated Press The 20 top-grossing films of 1998, according to Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc. Figures reflect grosses through Dec. 20 and don't include Sunday's weekend estimates. Does not include ``Titanic,'' which was released in December 1997. 1. ``Armageddon,'' $201.6 million. 2. ``Saving Private Ryan,'' $190.4 million. 3. ``There's Something About Mary,'' $173.7 million. 4. ``Doctor Dolittle,'' $144.1 million. 5. ``The Waterboy,'' $140.9 million. 6. ``Deep Impact,'' $140.5 million. 7. ``Godzilla,'' $136 million. 8. ``Rush Hour,'' $133 million. 9. ``Lethal Weapon 4,'' $129.7 million. 10. ``The Truman Show,'' $125.6 million. 11. ``Mulan,'' $120.6 million. 12. ``A Bug's Life,'' $96.3 million. 13. ``The Mask of Zorro,'' $93.6 million. 14. ``Antz,'' $87 million. 15. ``The X-Files Movie,'' $83.9 million. 16. ``The Wedding Singer,'' $80.2 million. 17. ``Enemy of the State,'' $79.1 million. 18. ``City of Angels,'' $78.6 million. 19. ``The Rugrats Movie,'' $76.8 million. 20. ``The Horse Whisperer,'' $75.4 million. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:43:00 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: re: answer about K records single yes, sir. - ---Rob Gronotte wrote: > > Is the version of "Man With A Woman's Shadow" on the 7" exactly the same > as the version on the later "Moss Elixer" album? > > Rob > > Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob > > > == Christopher Donnell Hmmm.. you might as well check out my homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~qrys _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:42:33 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Subject: Re: Leif Garrett - my hero! On 27 Dec 1998, Eb coughed- >Eb, afraid to ask how many Fegs own the Kristy & Jimmy McNichol record.... Uhhh.... Eb, I hate to tell you this.... yup, with the poster too. Sadly enough, I can also still quote lyrics from that album too - "He gets out on the floor, starts to boogie down, he's the king of the moves, he's the king of the moves, and the music is his crown." (hurl) Is it too late to save me? The McNichols and Leif are great to put on the 70's mix tapes though. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: another annoying list for you...woo! On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Eb wrote: > I don't remember "Rush Hour" at all...who was in that? Jackie Chan. American made flick... they didn't let him do his own stunts. Mostly forgettable. > 1. ``Armageddon,'' $201.6 million. > 4. ``Doctor Dolittle,'' $144.1 million. > 6. ``Deep Impact,'' $140.5 million. > 7. ``Godzilla,'' $136 million. > 9. ``Lethal Weapon 4,'' $129.7 million. > 11. ``Mulan,'' $120.6 million. > 12. ``A Bug's Life,'' $96.3 million. > 13. ``The Mask of Zorro,'' $93.6 million. > 18. ``City of Angels,'' $78.6 million. Piles of shit. > 2. ``Saving Private Ryan,'' $190.4 million. > 3. ``There's Something About Mary,'' $173.7 million. > 5. ``The Waterboy,'' $140.9 million. > 8. ``Rush Hour,'' $133 million. > 16. ``The Wedding Singer,'' $80.2 million. Tolerable. Worth the minutes, but not any thought before or after. Probably won't watch it on cable or when others rent it. In my opinion, Saving Private Ryan should have ended after the Omaha Beach scene. We would have the same moral without the sap. > 15. ``The X-Files Movie,'' $83.9 million. > 17. ``Enemy of the State,'' $79.1 million. Good enough. Only twice did Enemy of the State piss me off with its crappy representation of technology. That may well be a record for a techno-thriller. The first fifteen minutes of The X-Files Movie were the best part. The rest was like an average (not particularly good) episode of the series. I'd watch these again if there was any kind of secondary reward (i.e. on a date or with friends or for money). > 10. ``The Truman Show,'' $125.6 million. > 14. ``Antz,'' $87 million. I rather enjoyed both of these. I saw The Truman Show in the theater several times (with secondary rewards on every trip but the first) and still think that the end with Truman against the wall was great Chaplinwork. I think it would have been more poignant had it been released a few years ago (did I ever tell you about the movie guide I have that lists The Truman Show starring John Lithgow and someone else? The guide was printed in the late eighties). Antz was a million times better than A Bug's Life. Someone actually WROTE Antz. Sayer prefered the animation in A Bug's Life, but I thought it was too Claymation (TM) and didn't take advantage of the medium. > 19. ``The Rugrats Movie,'' $76.8 million. > 20. ``The Horse Whisperer,'' $75.4 million. I didn't see these for obvious reasons. Commenting where no comment is necessary. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:53:20 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Cyberspace Hitchcock Chat! Wow! Everyone's third favorite Robyn Hitchock page just got chattier. Check out the new chat feature on Cyberspace Hitchcock located on the World Wide Web at: http://www.geocities.com/~qrys/robyn/index.html P.S. The chat thing's kinda stupid and I'd be surprised if anyone would actually go there and chat so prove me wrong people! (In a week or so I'll actually be putting some different songs up there too.. it'll be exciting) == Christopher Donnell Hmmm.. you might as well check out my homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~qrys _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:49:30 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Boxing Day >> What *is* Boxing day? > >26th December, as a rule. ;) also known as St Stephen's Day or, if you';re in "Patron Saint of the Czech Republic" mode, 'the feast of Stephen' >> What do people do on it? > >Usually they lie around recovering from the copious amounts of plum >pudding consumed. Especially if Christmas was a bloody hot summer's >day. And there's always family bickering, of course. you haven't got used to being in a Northern winter yet, have you? (temperature in Dunedin, 29 degrees Celsius) >As I recall (feel free to correct me, James or Mr Godwin or >somebody) the name comes from a British tradition of giving servants >their presents on the day after Christmas, since the poor sods were >working on the day itself. Summat like that, anyway. correctamundo, although I have also heard a suggestion it is the day when church 'poor boxes' were opened up and the alms they contained distributed ("alms for the poor! Legs for the needy!". The servants theory is the most likely, though. Australia (and from this year New Zealand) celebrate with a big Cricket test starting on Boxing Day - an excuse to blob out in front of the TV for five days. and as Ross pointed out, it is when large department stores start to look like shark-infested waters. > Danielle, not currently all that impressed with my habitually low > blood pressure Close your eyes and clear your mind... now... try to imagine Paul Holmes interviewing Richard Prebble on the policies of an ACT-led government (that should do it...) Oh, and Danielle - India 208 all out (Doull 7 wickets), NZ 352 all out (Nash 89*). India currently 308/7 in their second innings, approaching tea on day 4... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:06:58 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Boxing Day i keep seeing james and others mention them, and i'm finally going to ask: what exactly is a "test"? is it a league match as opposed to a "friendly" (as it's called in the soccer world.) just the opposite? do they have to last five days? cricket has innings, like baseball, right? do you simply play a certain specified number of innings each day? is score kept cumulatively, or do you start afresh each day? anything else i should know before i go out and buy a brand new cricket uniform? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:10:11 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: boxing day? In a message dated 12/27/98 3:06:29 PM, you wrote: <<> > What *is* Boxing day? > Danielle answered: > 26th December, as a rule. ;) > > > What do people do on it? >> I thought the name derived the fact that you now have a lot of boxes that you have to store/disassemble/burn/whatever. << I always thought it was observed in the US as well, but heard on the news yesterday that it isn't. Anybody know why? >> No opportunities for exploiting commercialism, maybe? Instead, we just have tons of sales. I guess people would get confused if we called them "Boxing Day Sales." Either they'd bring a bunch of empty boxes down to the department stores, or they'd be calling up their cable companies to get pay- per-view set up for the big fight that night. It's odd that it's not much acknowledged here in the U.S., seeing as how it *is* in Canada, the U.K., Oz and NZ -- all of our closest cultural cousins. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:39:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: the ongoing climb to world domination Did everyone see Rufus sing "April Fools" on Letterman last night? I was excited by Dave's intro -- apparently Rolling Stone has voted RW best new artist of the year! Great! Hadn't heard that news yet. Eb, coming off what could be his worst Xmas ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:42:08 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: boxing day? > I thought the name derived the fact that you now have a lot of boxes >that you have to store/disassemble/burn/whatever. My "roommate" sez he'd always heard that it was because at one time boxing matches were traditionally put on for the entertainment of the masses on the day after Christmas. >per-view set up for the big fight that night. It's odd that it's not much >acknowledged here in the U.S., seeing as how it *is* in Canada, the U.K., Oz >and NZ -- all of our closest cultural cousins. I think of it as one of those things like "Guy Fawkes Day" that were chucked basically for being English. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 98 10:39:28 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Boxing Day Follies Believe it or not, I, a Yankee Quail, know the origin of the term "Boxing Day," thanks to my research into "Gravity's Rainbow," which uses Dec. 26 as part of its temporal structuring: "And the original custom followed on Boxing Day (which coincides with the Feast of St. Stephen) was to place presents to be given to the serving class in earthenware vessels (the "boxes") which then must be broken" (From "A Structural Analysis of Gravity's Rainbow") - --St. Quailphen with a rose, in and out of the garden he goes. . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: Boxing Day James says in reply to me: > you haven't got used to being in a Northern winter yet, have you? > (temperature in Dunedin, 29 degrees Celsius) As it was pretty much 20-22 degrees Celsius in Houston until Xmas Eve, I find all the fake snow around here a tad ironic. In any case, they don't eat plum pudding here, which upset me a great deal. And I miss my mum something terrible. Some family bickering would go down pretty well, right about now (the funk soul brother). :( > > Danielle, not currently all that impressed with my habitually low > > blood pressure > > Close your eyes and clear your mind... now... try to imagine Paul Holmes > interviewing Richard Prebble on the policies of an ACT-led government (that > should do it...) James, you little corker. That's such a bloody awful prospect that it's making me red-faced and spluttering from half-way around the world. ;) (Incidentally, don't you think that Richard Prebble looks like an alien? He's certainly not human.) > Oh, and Danielle - India 208 all out (Doull 7 wickets), NZ 352 all out > (Nash 89*). India currently 308/7 in their second innings, approaching tea > on day 4... This made me leap up and down with delight - 7 for *65*! Doull you beauty! - but looking at the refreshing scorecard at www.nzcricket.co.nz made me slightly less pleased. Come on boys, don't let me down now... a final innings collapse would *really* suck... fingers crossed for MacMillan and Wiseman! Eddie says: > i keep seeing james and others mention them, and i'm finally going to ask: what exactly is a "test"? It's a cricket match, basically - it can be international or county or whatever. And until the advent of one-dayers, it's pretty much all there was. I'm no expert on the finer points of cricket history, though. James or some of our Anglais folk can probably be more specific. > do they have to last five days? No. Sometimes they last three. ;) > cricket has innings, like baseball, right? > do you simply play a certain specified number of innings each day? Um, depending on the pitch and the players and the weather and all those funny little rules I can't be bothered going into here, one innings can *conceivably* last the better part of three days. Basically, a five day test means that each team should bat twice. > is score kept cumulatively, or do you start afresh each day? Cumulatively. > anything else i should know before i go out and buy a brand new cricket uniform? If you're going to play test cricket, dress all in white. Though you'd probably like one-day cricket better - it only lasts about seven hours, each innings is limited to 300 balls bowled, and it's much more exciting for those weaned on baseball. You get to wear colours, too! Danielle, finding the .avi clips at the TV One site a dreadfully paltry salve for her cricket jones _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: Boxing Day (cricket addendum) OK, I'm lame. But it just occurred to me: > > is > score kept cumulatively, or do you start afresh each day? > > Cumulatively. Well, you start each *innings* from zero. But you add them together. Kind of. I have a feeling that I'm making this much more complicated than it needs to be. :) Danielle, bonding with tuna fish salad _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:03:42 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: another annoying list for you...woo! In a message dated 98-12-28 18:31:40 EST, you write: << Antz was a million times better than A Bug's Life. Someone actually WROTE Antz. Sayer prefered the animation in A Bug's Life, but I thought it was too Claymation (TM) and didn't take advantage of the medium. >> Well, I haven't seen "ANTZ," but I loved "A Bug's Life"! It was really funny and I thought the "animation" (Pixar -- all digital) was incredible. Defnitely see it and *definitely* stay through the credits. I don't even know what Jeme means by implying that "A Bug's Life" wasn't written. It had a plot and some really clever dialogue. I'm not sure what else you'd want (well, in Jeme's case, I guess he'd want a movie that he enjoyed . . . he must've been crabby on the day he saw "A Bug's Life," though). - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:08:11 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: boxing day? In a message dated 98-12-29 10:22:15 EST, you write: << > I thought the name derived the fact that you now have a lot of boxes >that you have to store/disassemble/burn/whatever. My "roommate" sez he'd always heard that it was because at one time boxing matches were traditionally put on for the entertainment of the masses on the day after Christmas. >> Liz (my wife) reminded me of what my grandmother had once told me Boxing Day is supposed to be named for: the boxing up of ornaments! Now, based on how quickly most people actually take down their trees and box up their ornaments, it seems like Boxing Day should be around January 12th or so. Anyway, that's what I heard it's all about. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: I'm off to my love with my boxing glove Re: Boxing Day I don't think a cotton pickin' one of you knows what you're talking about. Then again, I don't know what I'm talking about either, except that "Boxing Day" on "Punch the Clock" (EC) is a helluva kickass song. Re: the day before Boxing Day and the presents exchanged in honor of I already told y'all about the Eye re-issue and the A&M comp. that Dave gave me. When we got back from my parents' house, he presented me with a box. 'I forgot to give you this.' 'Oh dear,' I thought, 'he's upping the ante for my present to him which I haven't even gotten yet.' Inside the box were two jade-colored chinese mugs with goldfish on them and little lids to keep beverage warm. 'Ah,' thought I, 'a nice conclusion to Christmas. Well done, sirrah.' But lo, ten minutes later he said, 'Oh yeah, I forgot this too.' And from behind his back he produced four more small square packages, each looking exactly like cds wrapped in gold foil, which is of course what they were. He gave me You & Oblivion, Gravy Deco, the re-issue of Fegmania, and Invisible Hitchcock. I opened them with growing delight and the dawning realization that Dave is the best possible boyfriend in this best of all possible worlds. He says he went to eleven record stores to accomplish this feat of gift-giving. So in return I got him some pants. Vivien of course the only reason he got me these cd's is so I'll give him back his precious tapes that are beginning to distintegrate. He probably wants me to make him some new tapes too, the selfish bastard. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #489 *******************************