From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #482 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 22 1998 Volume 07 : Number 482 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Feberge' Egg? [VIV LYON ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #480 [edoxtato@ssax.com] Fobbed Eggs [Michael Wolfe ] Re: Feberge' Egg? ["JH3" ] Re: Feberge' Egg? [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Robyn Hitchcock, Superstar [tanter ] protest songs, Cale, Saddam, and my torsomandibular juxtaposition [james.] [none] [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Fobbed Eggs [Eb ] fun for the entire family! ["Capitalism Blows" ] allstar Daily News - 12/22 [Eb ] Re: Fobbed Eggs ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock, Superstar [MARKEEFE@aol.com] blessed be [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] something for you to ponder... [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James ] more bits [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Fobbed Eggs [overbury@mustang.cn.ca] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:54:51 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: Feberge' Egg? - ---Eb wrote: > It's not a question of sounding "commercial" -- it's a question of sounding > current. Robyn is still making "current" '80s college-radio pop, but oops, > it's 1998. So you want he should go trip-hop electronica on us? God forfend such a disaster. You've mentioned that RH's longevity is one of the reasons (apparently few) that you respect him. Which artists out there have been around as long as he has, and have remained 'current' in your ears? Vivien Remember when Billy Idol turned cyber-punk? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:34:32 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #480 Hey all... I'll be unsubscribing from the list for awhile as I'm off for the next couple of weeks. Happy Christmas to you all, and a Joyous New Year... Look after yerselves... - -Doc P.S. Quail-- the finheads are out to get you. I suggest taking refuge in your local cat shelter. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:59:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Fobbed Eggs I have a couple of bits to chuck into the wash, so why don't I put my head onto the chopping block so you can kick it around a bit? All extracted text courtesy of E. Veneb: >More importantly, his music is >simply too cold and unfriendly. Both lyrically and *certainly* vocally. The >mainstream doesn't respond to that. No matter *how* happy and bouncy >his melodic hooks are, there's still that Bored Nasal Drone(tm) to deal >with. ;) Ok, but I don't see how this has changed since the time period when you say he was churning out A+ work. Why did you like him in the first place, and what has actually *changed* to make you like his work less? His voice is pretty much what it's always been (some would say it's improved slightly.) I personally would say that his lyrics have, if anything, opened up a bit. While something like, say Winchester (to pick a random example), might have a clear textual meaning, I feel that it's emotional resonance is actually very private for Robyn. But, say, You & Oblivion, while you may not understand exactly what specific things or events he is referring to, is quite emotionally direct. >Well, firstly, I would NEVER call Bob Dylan's voice "bored." And he came to >fame in a far different era, when rock ruled the sales charts. Robyn is >operating in a very different sphere. Also, Robyn is a pop artist, while >Dylan is a rock artist. Rock is more forgiving toward peculiar voices -- >what counts is that the passion and edge are there. That's rather ridiculous semantic distinction if I've ever heard one. I think that Robyn's got passion and edge in his voice (eg, the live "Heaven" from the Fegmania reissue), and that it works for him quite positively, regardless of the pigeonhole you insist on making him conform to. And again, what's changed? >It's not a question of sounding "commercial" -- it's a question of sounding >current. Robyn is still making "current" '80s college-radio pop, but oops, >it's 1998. So? In the 70's, with the Soft Boys, he was making 60's psychedelic pop (but, as with everything he's done, with his own unique imprimatur.) Now his work from that period is hailed as the product of a free thinker, paving the way for the return of actual melody and musicality. You know, going against the grain when punk reigned supreme. But even so, your assertion isn't even true. Element of Light was CERTAINLY '80's college-radio pop (which is appropriate, as it came out in '86.) His most recent work is Moss Elixir and Storefront Hitchcock. Element=ME? I just don't see it. What '80s college radio pop would you compare Hitchcock's most recent work to? He has quite obviously evolved a lot since he last wrote '80's college-radio pop. Maybe his evolution has carried him in a different direction from what '80's college-radio pop eventually evolved into, but I don't see that as necessarily being a bad thing. If your preference is for stuff that sounds like everything else out there, you're in luck. You have plenty to choose from. And don't waste my time by explaining why Robyn is/will never be a commercially successful artist. Why I should need to point it out on this (of all forums) I don't know, but commercial success has exactly zero relevance to his artistic merit. I mean, this statement is obvious bordering on self-evident. - -Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:05:35 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Feberge' Egg? >>They base them on how often they've heard the hook, obviously! >And also, how that hook is presented. The production, the arrangement, the >voice.... Okay... though personally I don't think Robyn's voice is such a liability. >Also, are you REALLY implying that we'll inevitably like something if only >we hear it enough times?? No, I'm saying that *enough* people will like something, but not inevitably, assuming it HAS a legitimate hook of some kind, and only then if they hear it enough times - enough to make the song a hit. And okay, the term "hook" means different things to different people. But this is beside the point. >...Robyn is a pop artist, while Dylan is a rock artist. Rock is >more forgiving toward peculiar voices -- what counts is that the >passion and edge are there. So is that what the problem has been all this time - you think Robyn is a "pop artist"? Since when has he ever dumbed-down his material or worn sequined trousers or otherwise tried to pander to the mainstream just to sell records? You're overemphasizing rigid genre definitions and distinctions that just aren't applicable here. He might even claim to be a "pop" artist himself for all I know, but it all depends on how you define "pop," doesn't it? Is it a meaningless catch-all term for anybody who creates radio-friendly unit-shifters? Does the word apply to anything with a catchier melody than "Whole Lotta Love"? But wait, I get it - you've been reading press releases, haven't you! Of course the press releases are going to say Robyn is a "pop artist"; Robyn's labels have always said that, because their big fear is that radio people are going to throw his albums in the reject bin because he's some sort of "weirdo." Don't believe everything you read. >>These days there's no such thing as "passe" >>in popular music, there's just "what's hot this week". Nobody "stays >>current" - that's an illusion caused by artists copying each other's latest >>hit single to make a fast buck. The mainstream just responds to whatever MTV >>and commercial radio TELL it to respond to. >Yeah, yeah...we have no free will, we are zombies. Been there, done that. >So how come the new Hole and REM albums aren't selling well, despite >garguatuan promotion? How come the Marilyn Manson album didn't sell like >expected? He's been crammed down our throats mercilessly in the media.... Because they're passe? Hmmm, those acts aren't exactly starving, are they? But you're still placing too much emphasis on sales. Lots of artists & records get pushed by the music biz that fall flat on their asses in the marketplace, either because they stink or because the music biz promotes them the wrong way. But that doesn't mean that quality and/or talent alone is going to get you onto the Top 100. I won't deny the power of the music *press* to torpedo a band or an album, if that's what you're implying by mentioning those three records. But I don't think the press has anywhere near as much influence when it comes to getting people to go out and buy something that they otherwise wouldn't. That's extremely unusual - look at how much of a buzz you got over all the people on this list who bought the NMH album. If that happened every time you posted a rave review about somebody, you'd be completely insufferable. >It's not a question of sounding "commercial" -- it's a question of sounding >current. Robyn is still making "current" '80s college-radio pop, but oops, >it's 1998. I revert to my previous statement... JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:10:40 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Feberge' Egg? Here's my penny's worth. Eb has a complete right to his apparently confused opinion. He should feel completely welcome to express himself here. While his opinions come off as seeming like the complete natural law of existence as the supreme being intended, we shouldn't get too huffy since they are the opinions of a single person. Just as when I say, "verily we must get out our checkbooks and send money to Tigermonkey," that you shouldn't necessarily go into that trance state and say "he must be right." I'm not saying that you shouldn't send Tigermonkey lots of money, either. I don't know if I will ever understand why someone would bother reading quailspew, sharkvomit, dodgedarts, and Robyn Hitchcock related stuff for a B+ interest. It could be that he actually likes us. We make him laugh. Make him feel smart, or something. Perhaps he is just challenging our faith, so that we may examine our own views and be able to understand them better. Of course, it could be that "EvenEb" may have nothing better to do. ;-) Also, I should comment that I am in complete agreement with those who find value in seemingly obscure lyrics. I don't write lyrics in that language, but I read/listen to it well. Happies, - -Markg, a b- poster, if ever I read one ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:53:38 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock, Superstar At 03:23 PM 12/22/1998 -0400, you wrote: >The same can be said of any number of middle-aged musicians, including, I >suspect, many whom you have great regard for. What's so important about >being "current" or in the mainstream, anyway? Robyn seems to be making a >living. Hear hear. Paul McCartney is accused of it time and again and my love for him will never wane! Those who think he's passee shouldn't waste their time on this listserv, IMHO. I don't like an artist because s/he's current, I like him/her because I like the music. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:12:48 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: protest songs, Cale, Saddam, and my torsomandibular juxtaposition >(hums new model army's "spirit of the falklands," for my taste one of the >most artistically successful political songs ever) ooo! A thread! I see your "Spirit of the Falklands" and raise you one "Good morning, Britain" (*by Aztec Camera)! >Do you have any of Cales albums? >If not, start with "the Island Years" the true classic is, and always will be, "Paris 1919", although Fear shreds wallpaper from 50 paces, too (to paraphrase Mr Fripp). "Fragtments of a rainy season" is a good overview of Cale live. ><throwing around statements like "just kill the bastard" casually. please note that I did not mention killing Hussein. I spoke of sending someone in 'to get him'. It would be harder than killing him, but removing him from the country to face trial before an international court would be more satisfying all round. oh and an "oops!" pointed out by the ever vigiland Greater Canadian Overbury... >>> [2] not that I'm suggesting Susan is ordinary or everyday... if Susan was >>> yer average person, then the world would be a much better place, I am sure. >> >>That reads two ways, James! 'Course I read it the wrong way first. let me rephrase... "If more people were like Susan, then the world..." James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:14:00 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: [none] make that TARSALmandibular James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:21:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fobbed Eggs Michael Wolfe (wasn't that the name of Arsenio Hall's music director?): >That's rather ridiculous semantic distinction if I've ever heard one. I >think >that Robyn's got passion and edge in his voice. Right. And sometimes, he even changes his facial expression while singing! ;) >So? In the 70's, with the Soft Boys, he was making 60's psychedelic pop. That's a tremendous exaggeration. What from the '60s sounds like A Can of Bees? The Soft Boys may gone against the grain by not being punk, but their records sound pretty damn late-'70s/early-'80s contemporary to me. We're not talking about the Flamin Groovies here, y'know.... >Why I should need to point it out on this (of all forums) I >don't know, but commercial success has exactly zero relevance to his artistic >merit. I mean, this statement is obvious bordering on self-evident. Again, I was speaking more about sounding "current" than sounding "commercial." The two are NOT the same thing. And by the way, to whoever made the point earlier: do NOT assume that Rufus Wainwright will never have a hit single. Way too many hyperbolic counterarguments flying around here. Oh yes, I think Robyn would sound better if he collaborated with Babyface on his next album. Yes, he should hire a nipple-pierced keyboardist and go techno. Yes, sure....that's exactly what I'm saying.... RH could possibly sound "current" with something as simple as a crafty producer change. As I've said before, I'm looking forward to Jewels for Sophia more than any other RH album in quite awhile, because Jon Brion is a very modern, imaginative producer who might be just what Robyn needs. Better Brion, than yet other '80s-generation murky-jangle producer who makes him sound like old Go-Betweens and Love & Rockets albums (as on Moss Elixir). That is NOT what RH needs. [apologies to Viv for recycling an email] I puked on myself today, after an unexpected coughing jag. Life is good. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:24:47 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: fun for the entire family! my fave is the second one down. the coolest news in a long, long time has been pinochet's, uh, misadventures. and yes, it would be wonderful to see saddam stand trial. but first and foremost should be henry kissmyassinger. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:37:53 -0800 From: Eb Subject: allstar Daily News - 12/22 >Leif Garrett Fills Us In On New Material > >To clear up some misinformation on his upcoming album, >former teen idol Leif Garrett dropped us a line with >the 411 on the recent recordings. > >He's in the midst of recording new material to be >released on his own -- tentatively- titled -- Tongue >and Groove Records, which will release the new songs >via his Web site at www.leifgarrett.com in time for the >VH1 Behind the Music special on him on Jan. 10. (The >site won't be active until then.) > >Contrary to the information given to allstar on Dec. >15, the cover of the Kinks' "Lola" features Dave >Navarro on piano, ex-Marilyn Manson guitarist Zim Zum >on electric guitar and bass, and Chris Damerst on >acoustic guitars and drum programming, according to >Garrett. > >On the new song, "Satisfied," Zim played rhythm guitar >and additional acoustic guitar, Damerst played acoustic >guitar and programmed the drums, and Michael Scott >played bass. (Damerst and Scott play in an L.A. band >called Deadtime Stories.) "Satisfied" was written by >Garrett and Julian Raymond, who produced Fastball's All >The Pain Money Can Buy, according to Garrett, who says >the new songs are produced by himself, but Damerst co- >produced "Satisfied" with him and engineered all of it. > >"I'm going to release an EP first," says Garrett. "A >four- song EP with two mixes of 'Satisfied,' >'Lola,' and a ballad called 'Borrowed Time.'" The EP >doesn't have a name or firm release date yet. > >"Originally, I didn't want it coming out under my own >name," adds Garrett. "I wanted to bring it out under a >band name, then have people slowly find out it's me, >but Zim ruined that." > >Leif Garrett >http://p0.com/r.d?rh0rty1WE=musicblvd/cgi-bin/tw/5097_43_466133 > >http://www.allstarmag.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:37:22 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Fobbed Eggs anecdote! once upon a time, when i was working at ye olde country club, some kid barfed on the floor in the middle of a party. none of the employees would clean it up --reasoning that having to clean up a kid's puke would be a fate far worse than getting the heave-ho, as it were-- so the boss had to!! how much fun that was to watch! well, as long as we're on the topic, a few more: one time we were driving around in eb's neck of the woods -- anaheim. and we were just sitting there at a stoplight, when some kid leaned out the winding and started puking all over the street. he was finished before i had time to get to my camera, but we got an enormous laugh out of that one. a few years later, in one of the concourses of the ballpark at camden yards, i spied a lady barfing right on the concrete. i *did* have time to get to my camera this time, but her husband was very big and mean looking, and so i didn't push my luck, and instead i took a pix of the kosher-hot-dog-booth sign (and later, in montreal, a picture of a sign asking that most pressing of questions: "what would the world be like without dung-eaters?") np, the dead milkmen, The Puking Song (not really. but limey, what a beautiful song that is! "i puke on my pillow and i puke on the floor. smells so good it makes me puke some mo-ore. i'm lying in puke six inches deep. so i just smile and go back to sleep.") ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:42:18 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock, Superstar In a message dated 98-12-22 21:02:06 EST, you write: << Hear hear. Paul McCartney is accused of it time and again and my love for him will never wane! Those who think he's passee shouldn't waste their time on this listserv, IMHO. >> Was that last sentence referring to Robyn? I hope so! I like Paul McCartney well enough, but I think he's been passe for over 20 years. Then again, I don't think there's anything wrong with being passe. There's plenty of music that is decidedly un-passe (i.e., "current," "hip," fresh," whatever) which really sucks and will someday soon be wishing they were only passe, rather than utterly forgotten. I think eveneb wasn't necessarily condemning Robyn for being passe; rather, I think he was just evaluating Robyn's current "marketability" (or something). And, in fact, I'd have to agree that Robyn is passe. He's yesterday's news. Then again, he's not in the "where are they now file" and he's not "all washed up." He's doing all right. He's doing what he likes to do, and there are a lot of us that like what he does. And, really, that's all that matters. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:46:29 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: blessed be K (I think) tried in vain to start an intriguing spiritual conversation, but was shouted down by the politics. Which is a shame. My take is that Robyn's music does contain a lot of spirituality, more evident particularly in the songs where he appears wistful. IODOT is probably, to me, his most spiritual album ("Sleeping knights" notwithstanding). I hear it in the title track, and Trams, and several other songs. It also appears, to me, anyway, in Airscape, off EoL. Striving for an unrequited perfection that is never quite tangible, you might say. Which is, I think, what spirituality is all about. FWIW, I am spiritual, and believe in 'god' (small g), but not in religion. god is the one being or binding element in everything. god is called by a different name by every religion, and doesn't care what he/she is called, because he/she has no real 'identity' as we can know it (and thus the terms 'he' and 'she' are equally false and equally irrelevant). god, being in everything and filling everything, is infinite and constant, but our sense of god's presence is only brought about by our act of belief. It's not a case of "fairies only live if you believe in them", more that god's relevance to you is only strengthened by your understanding of that relevance to you. god, as evidenced in all living things, thus equates roughly to nature, which is why I tend to celebrate (if anything) the turning points of the seasons. This is not to say that I don't follow some beliefs from the great religious textx, I do. I have read the Bible and Qu'ran (only in English, sadly, but I have my limits), have picked at the book of Mormon and thumbed through several other works. All are brilliantly interpretable in so many ways that every person can find their own path to the truth. My own is quite straightforward. The Bible says that Jesus would be the key to understanding god. That he was: he alone understood that we are all brothers (and sisters) and should call god "our father". That is, we are all sons and daughters created equal in god. Jesus was son of god every bit as much as you are. After all, he referred to himself as 'son of man' (according to three out of four extant gospels. Do we assume that the Bible is ineffable and accept that Jesus said two opposite things at the same time, or do we go for a simple majrity of apostles?). I also, in true long-haired liberal hippy fashion, think that if you replace the word 'god' with the word 'love' in the opening stanzas of the gospel of St John, everything becomes much more clear. Then again, if you replace it with the word 'treacle', or perhaps 'Minnesota', it becomes much more amusing... Meeping off and on, James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:45:08 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: something for you to ponder... Seasons festives to all! apologies to anyone not interested in this . . . skip at will Here is the first annual James Dignan reverse quiz! It will be going out to a fair number of people via email, and also in the New Zealand amateur press association publication 'Aotearapa'. Probably about 400 people will see this quiz in all, but I'm not expecting more than a small number of those to take part! Below are twenty-one answers, to each of which there is a specific question, one that can be uniquely (I hope) answered by the answer given. Thus if the answer is "Captain Matthew Webb", then the question is not "Name a British Captain who served in the Merchant Navy" - it is more liklely to be "Who was the first person to swim the English Channel?" There are two questions each on ten topics: Sport, History, Geography, Literature & Art, Music, Religion and Mythology, Modern History, Science, Stage & Screen, and "Nations". This last section contains a geography/history question and a sports question aimed at New Zealanders, Americans, Brits, Canadians and Australians. The questions aimed at these nationalities will no doubt be easier for them than for people in other countries, but no matter whereabouts in the world you are, you may attempt to answer any ONE question numbered 11 (history or geography) and any ONE question numbered 12 (sports), irrespective of which country you come from! So, for example, if you are a Kiwi but can't do question 11Z, you may attempt 11C instead. There's also a special question 21, and I'm not going to tell you what category it is... Most of these are fairly self-explanatory but also fairly wide-ranging; Sport could be anything from tiddleywinks to tag-team wrestling; Science could be anything from botany to hydraulics to nuclear physics. Modern history refers to events, people and politics since 1945. History refers to anything prior to that time. SPORT 01 Farr, Mann, Thomas, Schmoeling, Lewis, Roper, Galento, Pastor, Godoy (twice), Paychek, McCoy, Burman, Dorazio, Simon (twice), Musto, Baer (twice), Conn (twice), Mauriello, Nova, and Walcott (twice). 02 Spyridon Louis. HISTORY 03 Pepin the Short 04 Palmer Putnam GEOGRAPHY 05 Thingsvallavatn 06 Nukuhiva, Uapu, Uahuka, Hivaoa, Tahuata, and Fatuhiva LITERATURE AND ART 07 "Nately's whore was hiding behind the door. The knife came down, missing him by inches, and he took off." 08 L.H.O.O.Q. MUSIC 09 Medac acne medication, Charles Atlas bodybuilding courses, Heinz Baked Beans, and Odorono deodorant. 10 Paisiello (1782) and Rossini (1816) RELIGION AND MYTHOLOGY 13 Laocoon 14 The first book of Nephi MODERN HISTORY 15 David Scott and James Irwin, Hadley Rille 16 Louise Brown, in 1978 SCIENCE 17 196.9665; 1064.43 18 W, O, B, A, F, G, K, M, R, N, S STAGE AND SCREEN 19 Julius Ullman and Gladys Smith, 28th of March, 1920 20 Walter, Ottumwa Question 21 - TOPIC UNKNOWN! 21 "Lil din l'art helwa, l'omm li tatna isimha" "NATIONS" sections: (Z=New Zealand, U = USA, B = UK, C = Canada, A= Australia. Answer any one question 11, and any one question 12) 11Z The Frigate "Rattlesnake", based at Port Phillip (Melbourne), in 1836-37. 11U Schuyler Colfax and Henry Wilson 11B Quintinshill, Scotland 11C June 30th, 1984 11A The Bradfield Highway 12Z Auckland 3, Wellington 6; Wellington 6, Canterbury 3; Wellington 15, Otago 13. 12U Lew Alcindor 12B Queen's Park and Clydesdale 12C Montreal AAA, 1894 12A D.W.Gregory Please have a go, even if you can only answer a couple of them. Some of them aren't too hard. Some of them are. Most of them are, hopefully, downright fiendish bastards. But anyone who knows how to look up an encyclopedia (or a website) can probably find the answers to several of them quite easily. You have until the arrival of the next Aotearapa (around February 15th) to answer. Only one attempt per person - if you attempt more than one, I'll take the first answers I receive (similarly, if you attempt more than one question 11 or more than one question 12, I'll take the first answer you give). I'LL EVEN OFFER A PRIZE! Whoever gets the most (or, if there's a tie, the first person to get the most) will receive one single-disc CD album of your choice (assuming I can find a copy of it)! My hope is that quite a number of you will get off your chuffs and have a go... c'mon... it'll be fun. AND you might actually win something! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:46:49 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: more bits Seems like only a week ago... On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, VIV LYON wrote: >1. Are people on this list political? well, Viv, I think you've had yer answer in the last few days... >Subject: Re: you could vote for labor...if you were a big fat communist good to see Alexei Sayle mentioned on the list, though. so... what is the state bird of California, anyway? Re; great movies of recent years: how come so many of you have mentioned "Dead Man", but no-one has mentioned the similarly titled "Dead Man Walking"? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:08:14 +0000 From: overbury@mustang.cn.ca Subject: Re: Fobbed Eggs Even Eb said: > Again, I was speaking more about sounding "current" > than sounding > "commercial." The two are NOT the same thing. And by the way, to whoever > made the point earlier: do NOT assume that Rufus Wainwright will never have > a hit single. Rufus was on CBC TV a week or so ago. He said he doesn't to follow the path of his parents by becoming a respected artist with relatively small sales. He wants to become *huge*. Then again so did Leo Sayer (not Jeme's friend). > I puked on myself today, after an unexpected coughing jag. Must .... resist... smart-assed...remark... (cue in that minor-key Star Trek action theme) Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #482 *******************************