From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #468 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 17 1998 Volume 07 : Number 468 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. [dwdudic@erols.com (lluther)] Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. [Bayard Catron ] Re: Top 10 Films [Jeff Cleveringa ] Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. [amadain ] Re: Haircuts (absolutely no RH and a whole bunch of girly) [Zloduska ] Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. [normal@grove.ufl.edu] new sonicnet article [desmond in a tutu ] Roger from Oz [Eb ] AllStar news (hooray for Rufus?) [Eb ] Is it the night or just the missles in the air???? (long winded) [Ethyl K] Re: Haircuts (absolutely no RH and a whole bunch of girly) [zolarox@juno.] Re: Is it the night or just the missles in the air???? (long winded) [Joe] Re: why? [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Various Kvetches, Buddhist and otherwise. . . . [The Great Quail >Yeah, me too! So Dolph is "Dr. Teeth," LJ is Janice, dmw is Animal, and >Michael K. is Floyd! So there we have the Electric Mayhem. And luther can >be that stoned owl that plays with the every once in a while. "that stoned owl that plays with the WHAT?!!!" :-) YEah...okkkkk.... -luther What ya'll think of "who's line is it anyway?" It was great as a BBC show, and just as funny now... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:43:48 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Catron Subject: Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, lluther llodged a complaint... ...I know who you should be! One of those little guys who sings "Me na me na".. Remember? "Me na me na." "Do dooo do do do..." "Me na me na." "Do do do DO." "Me na me na." "Do dooo do do do..." "Me na me na." "Do do do DO." Sheer genius... A little humor for what looks to be an unhappier world tonight. =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:16:38 -0800 From: Jeff Cleveringa Subject: Re: Top 10 Films 1) The Wild Bunch 2) 8 1/2 3) Pillow Talk 4) The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly 5) Becket 6) Time Bandits 7) The Lavender Hill Mob 8) Mon Oncle 9) The Spy Who Came In From The Cold 10) The Man Who Would Be King Lists like this are really silly... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:47:43 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. >On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, lluther llodged a complaint... > >...I know who you should be! One of those little guys who sings "Me na me >na".. Remember? I'd have to go check my copy to be sure, but I believe the title is actually "Mahna Mahna". Doing my bit to keep the world geeky, Susan P.S. It's pretty good, but it still isn't as good as "The New Sound": "because this new new sound, so deep down in the ground, is the sound that's made by WORMS!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:50:25 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Haircuts (absolutely no RH and a whole bunch of girly) Michael wrote: kjs (Kristie? no? oops?) {Kristy} writes: ><< And the good thing is, unlike dyeing > your hair black or blonde, with any purple/blue/violet/fuschia shade, it > looks good when you're growing it out, because it blends right in. At > least for me. >> > I can't be the only one dying to know what your natural hair color is >now, can I? Blends in with violet? Hmmm . . . Girl, if you've got hair that >blends with violet, maybe you don't even need to dye your hair! :-) Dark brunette. Unlike with blonde or red hair, violet hues tend to look complimentary as they grow out and fade, instead of hideous. Wish I had been born a lavender-head though. Anyways, it truly is addictive! They must be putting nicotine in my Manic Panic! ~kjs the 'non-girl' girl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:59:27 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: long, rambling, less than 2% MSG. Robyn who? >Are there any rockers over 60 that are still doing it with >grace? Laughin' Lenny Cohen? He's about 64, IIRC. BB King? Or is he too blues to be "a rocker"? Danny Thompson must be pushing 60 by now, too... In the 50+ category, add Brian Eno, John Cale, and Robert Fripp, plus Neil Young and Tom Waits. Zappa was doing well into his 50s, too. How old's Patti Smith? > Most aging rock stars are in my opinion just making fools of themselves. this, however, is probably also true. >Dada for the Blind - "Alice in the Bat Factory" >Mind the Gap - "Baker Street Bondage a-Go-Go" >Rubber Monkey - "Jupiter or Bust," "Bring Me the Head of Jello Biafra" >The Treatment - "Blood Occult," "Happy Doctor Cronenberg, OB-GYN" >The Sprocket Bunnies - "Fuzz Stomping Tunes of Terror" >Oasis - "What's the Story Morning Glory" >Shadout Mapes - "Fun with Imperial Geologist Kynes" > >And my all time favorite: > >War Rocket Ajax - "The Barbarian Who Leapt to his Death from a Zeppelin" > >- --Quail speaking as someone who has been in a band that went through a few weeks of changing its name every thirty seconds or so, I can tell you that the following have been used: Inflatable man sketch; Happy plastic; Bonsai jungle; Preemptive sheep; The flu; The Ripleys; Waddle-pow!; Scratch batteries; The Moho discontinuity; Club-a-dodo; Great Uncle Bulgaria; 1,2,3,boing!; Trotsky and the icepicks; Long hard squawk; At the sound of the tone; The null zone; Vicious gravity; Funfair for the common man; and Time Tunnel. However, only four of these names got to the live performance level. Tapes exist of Preemptive Sheep, the Flu and the Ripleys. Bonsai Jungle is now in use as a name by a Wellington area folk band. The rest are, therefore, open for re-use (although I'm considering using "funfair for the common man" as an album title...). Remind me sometime to tell you about Albumen (the band, that is), too. Album titles considered included "The album of the same name" and "Sounds Bruce Russell wouldn't use"[1] FWIW >the problem here is that eb is rarely grouchy anymore. sarcastic, sure. >but not really grouchy. i'd think of eb as snuffaluffagas because no >feg save sydney has ever seen him. Danielle has seen him. Unless of course Danielle is really Eb under an assumed gender. Then again, Danielle said she liked my tape whereas Eb refuses to listen to any of us's efforts (a laudable gesture, since with his high standards most of us would probably rate an 'euh' at best, and can our poor egos really take that?). Unless of course that was all part of his sectret plan, to lull us into thinking that Danielle is a different person. Is it a plan to thwart the great Quail by fighting him at his own game? >Toby, whose favourite movie is Wings Of Desire (though I've probably only >seen 15 films in the last 5 years...). that and 2001 are my favourite 2, again FWIW... >Before I cut what's here now (whenever that is), I think I'm going to >either do a very light blue tint over the whole thing (so it's >highlightlike) or just color The Atrocity (as I've named that one patch of >my head) band name! I spot a potential band name! meeping on and off, Beaker, erm, or is it Dr Honeydew?, erm, James PS - Chris, you want the role? It's yours! [1] a NZ 'industrial soundscape' musician. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:11:44 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Haircuts (absolutely no RH and a whole bunch of girly) To combine things... What color should Robyn dye his hair? (I'd suggest things, but everything I can think of would look hideous on him. A dyed-blonde crew cut or long purple just wouldn't suit him. Though I think it'd be cool if he did two secret gigs in Tacoma with green hair, then resumed his normal hue.) np- William Shatner, "Mr. Tambourine Man". Every bad thing you've heard about this song is true. (and Johnny Paycheck's "Take this job and shove it") Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:19:37 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: movies n stuf Babe in the city looks stupid. I enjoyed the original. I'm "staying away in droves" until I hear more about it. I enjoyed "Bug's Life," but think Randy Newman shouldn't be the guy writing all the Pixar soundtracks. I get to go see the new Star Trek movie this weekend. I have a feeling that the good guys win in the end. Something aGout Mary was pretty amusing, but I haven't seen any movie this year that compares with Zero Effect from last year. I found that Bret Favre's thesbian art to be quite phenomenal in "Mary," as he was almost convincing as the character Bret Favre. This must have been a real stretch for him. Of course he's having the same problem on the field some this year. If any "THE TICK" comic book fans want to know what Jeme's hair looks like I have two words for you: CHAINSAW VIGILANTE Also, does Ernie hate capitalism and say fuck a lot? I can't remember. Am I Gonzo or Animal? Hope yer all feeling feggy good 2nite, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:21:18 PST From: "Daniel Barkhouse" Subject: Re: Top 10 Films short cuts cool hand luke jerry maguire paths of glory hombre the hudsucker proxy toy story the cable guy spanking the monkey planet of the apes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Great. I'm a bloody stoned owl. > >...I know who you should be! One of those little guys who sings "Me na me > >na".. Remember? > > I'd have to go check my copy to be sure, but I believe the title is > actually "Mahna Mahna". It's "mah-na-mah-na" by (or performed by) Piero Umiliani. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:38:31 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: new sonicnet article Robyn Hitchcock Teams With R.E.M.'s Peter Buck On Upcoming Album New album also features Grant Lee Phillips, Scott McCaughey of Tuatara. Senior Writer Gil Kaufman reports: Psychedelic British troubadour Robyn Hitchcock will team with his longtime friend, R.E.M. guitarist Peter Buck, on the former's next studio album, Jewels for Sophia, which is due in the spring. "He's very quick to assess what a song needs," Hitchcock said of Buck in a Dec. 14 SonicNet chat. "[Buck] doesn't overplay. [He] comes up with a good part very fast, and he can write a very complementary guitar part." In one of their more memorable collaborations, Buck recently joined Hitchcock at the New York premiere of the Jonathan Demme-directed live documentary about the singer, "Storefront Hitchcock." Buck also indulged in a bit of on-the-street busking in New York City's West Village with the notoriously quirky songwriter. "We've played with each other for 13 years," Hitchcock said of Buck, calling their guitar styles "interchangeable." Buck worked with Hitchcock on the latter's albums Globe of Frogs (1988) and Perspex Island (1991), which were recorded with Hitchcock's band of the time, the Egyptians. Jewels, Hitchcock said, is his first rock record since Perspex Island. The songwriter said the new album was fairly uptempo and the vibe is "all men on their hind legs playing guitar." It features cameos from Grant Lee Buffalo leader Grant Lee Phillips, Scott McCaughey of Tuatara/Young Fresh Fellows and Hitchcock's former Soft Boys bandmate Kimberly Rew. Beginning with his melodic, slightly off-kilter pop efforts with the Soft Boys in the late '70s, Hitchcock has been one of England's most enduring, prolific and unpredictable contemporary singer/songwriters. With a string of psychedelic solo albums in the early '80s and equally impressionistic albums with the Egyptians in the latter half of the decade, Hitchcock solidified his reputation as an important force in music. R.E.M. top the list of the decade's leading pop-groups that have claimed Hitchcock as an inspiration. Sitting in with Hitchcock and playing impromptu street gigs is in keeping with R.E.M.'s mood these days, Buck said after the spur-of-the-moment New York gig with Hitchcock. "Spontaneity is key for everything we want to do now," he said. Hitchcock also has been busy with other projects. In addition to the film collaboration with Demme -- which included such songs as "Beautiful Queen" (RealAudio excerpt) -- he recently finished the first draft of his debut novel, "The Ballad of Jacob Lurch," which he began writing more than four years ago. "It has elements of things that will be familiar to people who have heard my songs," Hitchcock said of the work-in-progress, which he hopes to publish after Jewels is released. While he would not give away any plot points, the 45-year-old Hitchcock did reveal that the lead character, Jacob Lurch, is mentioned in the song "Wax Doll" from the 1989 Egyptians album Queen Elvis. "It's a more sustained piece of work than any of my songs," Hitchcock said, "because a song only has to last three minutes, so they skip all over the place. I will say that by the end of the book the beginning couldn't have happened. It centers around that paradox." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:07:41 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Roger from Oz James: >speaking as someone who has been in a band that went through a few weeks of >changing its name every thirty seconds or so, I can tell you that the >following have been used: >Inflatable man sketch; Happy plastic; Bonsai jungle; Preemptive sheep; The >flu; The Ripleys; Waddle-pow!; Scratch batteries; The Moho discontinuity; >Club-a-dodo; Great Uncle Bulgaria; 1,2,3,boing!; Trotsky and the icepicks; >Long hard squawk; At the sound of the tone; The null zone; Vicious gravity; >Funfair for the common man; and Time Tunnel. What IS it with Kiwis and shortlived band names?? Incidentally, if you don't know, there was a band on SST awhile back called "Trotsky Icepick." For those interested, I received a special Christmas card/CD from Launch today. One of the 19 tracks is Hitchcock doing "Cheese Alarm" live. I haven't played it yet. I don't enjoy most of the other participating bands, sorry to say -- in fact, Tori Amos and Chumbawamba are the only other acts whose records I own. Best live shows I saw this year: 1. Portishead 2. Elvis Costello/Burt Bacharach 3. Neutral Milk Hotel 4. Air 5. Dub Narcotic Sound System 6. Bjork 7. Rufus Wainwright 8. Damo Suzuki & Michael Karoli 9. Cindy Lee Berryhill 10. Tori Amos Eb (is it too late to nominate the "haircut" thread for Worst Thread of 1998? ;)) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:17:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: AllStar news (hooray for Rufus?) >Michael Stipe, Boy George, Rob Halford Make The OUT >100 > >OUT magazine, the nation's most notable gay and >lesbian publication, has named R.E.M.'s Michael Stipe, >Culture Club's Boy George, and ex-Judas Priest singer >Rob Halford to their fifth annual list of the top gay >newsmakers of 1998 -- the OUT 100. > >The list also includes pop star George Michael, >musician Rufus Wainwright, rapper Queen Pen, jazz >musician Amy Bey, concert pianist Sara Buechner, disco >diva Dana International, broadway composer Stephen >Flaherty, film composer Laura Karpman, and actor/ >writer/ composer John Cameron Mitchell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:38:56 -0800 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Is it the night or just the missles in the air???? (long winded) At 1.07 PM -0800 12/16/98, Christopher Gross wrote: >MOVIES: I have to agree with the Crate Gwayle here: some of the movie >posts lately have shown a distressing tendency to completely dismiss a >movie for one or two flaws. This, IMHO, is unnecessary and somewhat >repugnant. I prefer the glass-is-half-full approach: I look for the >moments of excellence, beauty, or simple fun, that can be found even in >deeply flawed films. You are absolutely right! I admit whole heartedly that I am a half-full glass person in all aspects of my life. But here I stand, completely aware that when it comes to film I am an opinionated bitch! But hey,I said I was the first to admit it! I've seen a few Spielberg films, SL, JP and didn't he make ET (sound of retching as I write)? And those 3 convinced me that to avoid annoyance, I must never watch a Spielberg film again. > As for the message of Schindler's List, it's more than just "the Holocaust > was bad." I hate to reduce any film to a simple message, but if I had to, > I'd say that the message of SL is: "Look at Oskar Schindler -- he was a > supremely self-centered man, yet when the time came he found it within > himself to do the right thing. If such a self-centered jerk can struggle > against evil, what excuse do the rest of us have?" Not to get this can open too deep, but Shindler was a war profiteer. He went to Poland to make a buck on the war with slave labor. The "nice guy at heart when the chips are down" is Liam Neeson as directed by Steven Spielberg. That Oskar Shindler saved lives is nothing less than miraculous. Too bad that didn't make it into the movie. At 9.42 AM -0800 12/16/98, The Great Quail cheeped: >"Saving Private Ryan"...So what we have here is a necessary >conflict that is hell on earth, and it is being visited upon a few very >noraml guys. It really points out the realities behind such overused >words as "sacrifice" and "nobility." Am I the only one to see the superb and very moving film "Regeneration" about WWI and the conflict of sacrifice, nobility, necessity, conscience and a few british soldiers who find poetry a way to calm the demons the war conjures? Even the battlefield scenes were stunning, moving, and absolutely horrible. >(And hell, even Kubrik, Scorsese and Coppola have had a few klunkers.) Yeah - Kundun. A 90 minute postcard for new-age-neo-buddhists. Oops. I'm opinionating again. So sorry. Lashing with apologies (to quote from The English Patient). (I figure since I'm not a music critic, don't keep up with the music "scene", am not a starfucker, don't see many live shows, don't play any musical instruments and never cut a cd, I gotta be opinionated somewhere). Top 10: (I groan doing this because later I will regret not including others I will remember, in the middle of the night, in that sudden moment of terror when I wake from some horrific dream of Robyn at 60 with his bad hair cut real short and dyed violet doing a John Williams cover). Not in order of appearance because there is no way to "number" them... A. Wajda - Ashes and Diamonds A. Tarkovsky - Andrei Rublyev S. Peckinpah - The Wild Bunch D. Lean - Lawrence of Arabia L. Malle - Au Revoir les Enfants W. Has - The Saragossa Manuscript E. Kustarica - Time of the Gypsies M. Scorsese - Mean Streets O. Welles - Citizen Kane R. Scott - Blade Runner It agonizes me to leave out: Brazil Stalker The Godfather Prospero's Books Walkabout Dead Man The Color of Pomegranites The Dekalog Beauty and the Beast (Renoirs version) 8 1/2 Landscape After Battle Five top film composers: Ennio Morricone Goran Bregovic Zbigniew Preissner Nina Rota Ry Cooder And, given the night, the refrain from one of the great Phil Ochs songs runs through my head: "Cuz we're the Cops of the World boys, We're the Cops of the World" Be Seeing You, - - c "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:04:23 -0800 From: zolarox@juno.com (Debora K) Subject: Re: Haircuts (absolutely no RH and a whole bunch of girly) Kwyjibo!!!! Yet another topic to bring the once semi-permanant lurker out of hiding. Hair. Mine is straight. Really straight. Doesn't do a damn thing even when I waggle a piece of fried chicken in front of it. I cut the pony tail each Spring and hang it ceremoniously above the entry way to the Deboras' bedroom. Why I do this, I do not know. Probably just to gross out any visitors. It also grows insanely fast, without any regard for current fashion trends or the rising cost of barber visits. So, I assign someone (I have to trust this person with my life as I really dislike any stranger standing behind me with a sharp object) to snip the pony tail when the days get longer. The rest of the year, I have devised way to continually thin this ever thickening jungle out myself, as I tend to get a sort of mop-top head if I neglected to do so. For the Nick Cave show, I did spike it out with a lot of hairspray and little regard for those sitting in the rows behind me. In my younger, "heavy metal drumming days", my hair caught fire as a result of an errant explosion onstage (we used too much gunpowder and I too much hairspray). For now, it just slowly snakes its way down my shoulders 'til the rain begins to feel a bit warmer. And, I am looking forward to some silver. Vince ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:52:06 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Is it the night or just the missles in the air???? (long winded) > Five top film composers: > Ennio Morricone > Goran Bregovic > Zbigniew Preissner > Nina Rota > Ry Cooder What about Bernard Hermann? Psycho? Vertigo? Taxi Driver? He was fucking great! - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:21:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: why? >>>>> "Luther" == David W Dudich writes: Luther> Are there any rockers over 60 that are still doing it with Luther> grace? Hasil Adkins? Not that he was every graceful, he's still as lumpy as ever. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:23:52 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Is it the night or just the missles in the air???? (long winded) I don't want to get into this too deep either -- I don't know if anyone else cares, and probably you and I don't care very much either. But still, one last thought while I wait for the morning coffee to kick in: On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Ethyl Ketone wrote: > > As for the message of Schindler's List, it's more than just "the Holocaust > > was bad." I hate to reduce any film to a simple message, but if I had to, > > I'd say that the message of SL is: "Look at Oskar Schindler -- he was a > > supremely self-centered man, yet when the time came he found it within > > himself to do the right thing. If such a self-centered jerk can struggle > > against evil, what excuse do the rest of us have?" > > Not to get this can open too deep, but Shindler was a war profiteer. He > went to Poland to make a buck on the war with slave labor. The "nice guy at > heart when the chips are down" is Liam Neeson as directed by Steven > Spielberg. That Oskar Shindler saved lives is nothing less than miraculous. > Too bad that didn't make it into the movie. Ah, but this *is* the Schindler in the movie! He was quite clearly shown to be a war profiteer, who had joined the Nazi Party, who was only short on anti-Semitism because he was too self-centered to care about others' religions, and who headed to Poland to exploit slave labor in a stolen factory. (Remember his words to Stern the accountant: "I'd have to pay Poles. I can get Jews for free. Why should I hire Poles?") He only gradually decided to save the lives of "his" Jews. Schindler -- *Spielberg's* Schindler -- wasn't a saint; he was a charming but morally reprehensible specimen of humanity who, when placed in an extreme situation, found some reserve of goodness in himself. If there was a flaw in the movie's characterization of Schindler, it was that his moral awakening was too facile. He wasn't whitewashed, though. Now I feel compelled to state that my defense of Schindler's List does NOT mean I love Spielberg! As far as I'm concerned, his movies are just slick packaged entertainment, and any art in them is secondary. I'm okay with that, though. Spielberg movies are like video games: great fun as long as you don't expect too much, but you'll rot your brain if they're the only kind of fun you get. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:18:47 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: tabby cats C'mon Terry, I know you like doing this stuff. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 9:56:21 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: Mommy the grouch While I have never met Ed, I know I was born to play Mom the Grouch. Any problems with that! Hair is sex. Orrather, long hairs suggest short hairs and take it from there. Thats why its important, (so whats wrong with soft curls. I glory in hummitiy, and the soft curls it brings. ) Its ironic that Spielberg should base schindlers list on free choice, since free choice is what he, as God the directer, cant give his audience. I remember sitting there in ET, sobbing for what seemed like hours, and saying to my husband--I hate this. I hate this. Hes hitting all my buttions and Im not sure how hes doing it. I feel like Pavlovs dog." I like my culture interactive--a dialog , not a speech. Farce after its edwardian flowering took many forms, one of the best being the screwball commideas of the 30s. Favorite movies, off the cuff and not in order Bladerunner, Brazil Bringing Up Baby(the triumph of screwball) Funny Bones Harold and Maude Spinal tap Satyricon Star wars Time bandits( now clean up this eveil. I want it all cleaned up right now! 14species of parrots. why would anyone make 147 species of parrots) Women in Love Now clean up your garbage cans. Allof you. UTM K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:59:12 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Spewelborg and movies Repo Man Spinal Tap Double Indemnity Stranger Than Paradise Wallace & Gromit series The Singing Detective (it's like 8 hours long) Delicatessen Blade Runner Nightmare Before Christmas Brazil I'm too conflicted to rank them. I missed the bus last time with the ratings, so I thought I'd 'treat' y'all to what I can think of today. There are a bunch that finish right after that (including Time Bandits.) Also, on the opposite end are such standouts as ET, Raging Bull, and Howard's End. I doubt that this list will impress anybody, but provide additional dimension in the frightening look inside my nearly empty head. About Spielberg and ET. I had the same experience as K. I will use the following expression with joy: I Fuckin' hate ET! Spewelborg made it almost impossible for me to sit through another one of his flyx. He manufactures way too much maudlin romantic feelings and seems to make it difficult to actually even tell a story. He could be the PT Barnum of directors, pushing the limits of lowest common denominator marketing science. But that's just my take, and it probably was just too deep for shallow types like myself. Yea, that's it. Saw a few minutes of Titanic in a vid store. All of my fears were confirmed. I am convinced now that I would hate this movie. I thought the dialogue was particularly apallingly, revoltingly, intoxicatingly pathetic. Sorry, Great Hmuh'd one. I am clearly flawed, and therefore not in your image. For that you must be grateful every day. If you find yourself nodding to anything written here, you probably have some dangerous brain condition like: none. Get help soon. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 11:18:51 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: AllStar news (hooray for Rufus?) Rob Halford is WHAT? But -- what about the black leather! A-and the motorcycle! And all those chains! And the Joan Baez fixation. . . . How can he possibly be gay? - --Judas Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 11:18:49 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Various Kvetches, Buddhist and otherwise. . . . Carrie writes, >Yeah - Kundun. A 90 minute postcard for new-age-neo-buddhists. Oh, my. I can see if you didn't like the movie, but *please* don't characterize it as "new age." Phil Glass has been a Buddhist long before Buddhism was in vogue, and actually composed several works based on Buddhist themes, including a processional for the Dalai Lama -- and he did it long before, bless his Hip Hop soul, Adam Yuach. And Scorsese has proven himself a master of exploring religious and spiritual themes -- "Last Temptation of Christ" was one of the best movies of recent times. (How did I miss that one on my list?) Kundun was beautiful. A perfect, slowly evolving character sketch that live and breathed the essence of a rare and dying spirituality. It was one of the only movies of 1997 that really made me cry in the theater, and I mean those strange numinous tears one gets upon seeing beauty and understanding something beyond words; not those tears jerked out by crass sentimentality. Q-RYS Donnell writes, >What about Star Wars man! Star Wars rocks out! >Da-da-da da da! Da-da-da da da! I *love* the Star Wars soundtrack -- also the scores to "Raiders" and "Jaws." But after the seventies and eraly 80s, I think Williams used up all his best ideas, and he's not produced one single score worthy of "Star Wars" ever since. And yet he seems canonized, or at least in the mind of Spielberg. And furthermore, a lot of "Star Wars" was pretty derivative of Gustav Holst's "The Planets." Not that this is a terribly bad thing, though. There's some great music in that score -- the opening fanfare, Leia's theme, and the Emperor's March come to mind. >> (And hell, even Kubrik, Scorsese and Coppola have had a few klunkers.) > >Do I hear a 'Barry Lyndon' from the crowd? Oh, my, yes. >Prospero's Books.. man that's a real doozy. And a film with another *great* score; Mike Nyman in his most raspy minimalist mode. And -- and Ute! Ute Lemper! (Yaaaaaay Ute!) >Ummm.. and Johnathan Demme too.. he made a good film this year. >Something about a Storefront Cockfight or something. Yeah. Yes, it was called "Bepecked," and it was all about the struggle of a hen after her rooster was killed . . . and she was haunted by this dead black chick of hers. . . . something like that. . . . And what's all this about hair? What's wrong with feathers? - --Quail, bassist for the Preemptive Sheep UK. np: The Smith's "Louder than Bombs." (Oh, wait, that's CNN. . . . ) +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #468 *******************************