From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #455 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 10 1998 Volume 07 : Number 455 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: More... [Capuchin ] Re: holy doodoo! they updated it! [Capuchin ] Re: beware! commie raving herein. [Capuchin ] Re: soggie proggie froggie [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: soggie proggie froggie [Michael R Godwin ] rapid eye movement [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: frogs & progs [Joel Mullins ] Re: Da, Da, Da [amadain ] Re: Linctus House [amadain ] early music [LORDK@library.phila.gov] Re: soggie proggie froggie [Jason Thornton ] TAB: not just a beverage anymore! [Bayard ] Did anyone else see this? [JH3 ] Re: Did anyone else see this? [lobstie@e-z.net] Re: Did anyone else see this? [Ben ] Re: soggie proggie froggie [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Da, Da, Da [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: More... On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > Bach will make you smarter than Mozart ever did. (Opinion, > and yes, I understand I'm not the poster child.) I'll probably dispute this. Bach was a brilliant guy, but I do get that tiny sense of wnakery that Terrence is blowing way out of proportion. Bach is a musician's musician's mathematician. Bach may have been smarter than Mozart. Bach may teach you more in his music. But I think Mozart opens up parts of your brain and makes you just run better. He's a musical machine shop and lube job. > If you are a guitarist or bassist, and you want to be great: > play Bach fugues every day for a year. Everything else will > take care of itself. No, I didn't do this. I did a little bit > tho, and that's part of how I got where I am. Where am I? Bach wrote these amazing arpeggios (spelling laziness) that go far beyond keyed scales or cyclic tonal thingies... Playing Bach will you give you a better understanding of your instrument no matter what it is. He played with relationships, not on the staff nor even in the western half-tone scale (whatever that's called). he played with the relationships between the waves and let the notes build each other. He's quite self-referential, if you think about it. I kind of take the Goldberg Variations as a kind of musical algorithm for solving scale problems. I'm tired. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:24:26 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: holy doodoo! they updated it! On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Bayard wrote: > they still have that ghastly message board. i did find this there though: > (let me know if you have any further info on this) > On 10/15/98 08:59 Lia Quetu wrote: > I believe the Robyn album you are all searching for is called, Globe of > Mellow Cheese, a transitional work in which Robyn pitted his then sassy > Egyptians against an upstart backing band he'd seen at a local Laser Tag > bar, Chilli Jesus Frieze. The tracking of the album alternates between > songs by Robyn alone, Robyn with the Egyptians and Robyn with Chilli Jesus > Frieze. The latter pickup group shines on "My Alternative Waistband and > The Horse it Rode In On," while the Egyptians all but stagger through ELO > reduxes like "There's an Eye in My Soup" and "How's Your Denim, Elliott?" > Robyn alone of course steals his own show with "Sieve With a Face" and the > folky "Don't Step There, It's a Headstone, Not a Rock!" This is an obvious joke to me (although a clever one... those are Robynesque titles to be sure). I hope you weren't looking for this. > On 10/09/98 19:08 Cynthia wrote: > > Very late one night I was listening to the radio, > dazing in and out ... when I heard this strange tune featuring the sounds > of frogs croaking and other assorted noises. I thought I heard this > attributed to Robyn Hitchcock and crew. Tonight I bought the "greatest > hits" CD because I noticed a song mentioning frogs. I listened to this > song, but heard no frogs. Was I dreaming this "frog" serenade? Do I have > the wrong band? Did I waste my money on this CD? > Please email the response, if possible. > Cheers, > Cynthia in Buffal This seems very much like Wafflehead to me. That wooden frog thing Morris uses wher you rub the stick up the serrated back and then tap it on the head. Probably missing the point. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:41:37 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: beware! commie raving herein. On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > another great selection for the kids' tape would be James K. Polk. oh > sure, the kids probably wouldn't get that it's an anti-imperialism song. > however, it's such a catchy, hummable tune, that it might stick with > them. and then maybe, just maybe, years later, when their history > teacher started spewing forth lies, they'd call bullshit. now, > obviously it wouldn't be just that (or any) one song that would raise a > red flag. but a dearly-loved song you learned when you were just a > little person? could certainly be an element! I don't see it, man. I think the song is blatant praise for an unpraised president. Certainly it mentions manifest destiny and annexing mexican land and the Oregon Territory (which always gets a big cheer in Portland), but there's not even a hint of sarcasm to me. That bit about serving four years and then not running again is certainly praise, I think. > by the way, anybody else hear a lot of early they might be giants in ONE > FOOT IN THE GRAVE? I have no idea what this is. Enlighten. > also, Welcome To The Occupation. okay, it's not such a kid-friendly > tune, maybe. but a more withering indictment of imperialsim has > scarceley ever been set to music. yes, i do think the first three songs > on DOCUMENT were the highlight of r.e.m.'s career. Funny, I'd rather hear the last few songs on side one than the first three. But their masterpiece is Life's Rich Pagaent. That's up there with Queen Elvis for albums I can hear at any given moment and just BE there. > of course, you know what robyn himself says: "i live in the u.k., but i > work in the u.s.." (this is something i've always wondered about: if > you end a sentence with an abbreviation, are you supposed to put another > period on there? it makes sense, but i can't remember ever having seen > it. A writer at W&K (from my advertpimping days) once asked me how to properly end a sentence with a url. Does it make sense to say "For more information, check out http://www.microsoft.com/."? Will people mistake it for another dot they must add to an address they already don't understand? A similar problem occurs when discussing oddly capitalized UN*X utilities. I read this in an O'Reilly book: Of course, all of this can be avoided by using grep. grep is a utility found on nearly every unix system." The advice I gave Jed was "avoid the construction". It's kind of a cop-out, but it's also legitimate. There are grammatically correct, but confusing constructions throughout written english. Just reconstruct your sentence and avoid the problem. > oh, as long as i'm asking idiotic questions, here's another: if > you send an e-mail to a group of people, *and* bcc one or more people, > and then someone replies-all, are the bcc'd folks included in that > reply? just wondering.) BCC (properly implemented) should be treated sort of like a forward. The other addressees (including other bcc addressees) should not ever see the BCC line at all and therefore, their clients will not be able to pick up those addresses for reply. > i like them all, but i think i dig it on piano the most. too bad robyn > feels like the only songs he's allowed to play live on piano are Flavour > Of Night, The Lizard, and Ted, Woody And Junior! You knockin' Flavour Of Night? You do NOT want to start down that path, baldboy. > viv, i don't think i've ever forbid anyone from playing a non-robyn > artist in my presence (of course, i may have been thinking to myself, > "how could that fucking chump have chosen *this* over ROBYN?" but > that's a whole other loom of cotton candy.) bayard? Oh, but there's a whole 'nother ball o'wax to be chewed in this one, eddie. Typing an awful lot tonight. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:34:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie >>>>> "Ben" == Ben writes: Ben> There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on Ben> Eno's Ambient On Land album, the other is a New Order song, Ben> but I can't remember the name. Don't forget Steve Hillage's project band System7, whose '7:7 Expansion' is much befrogged. Frogs -> Hillage -> RH - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:44:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: frogs & progs >>>>> "James" == James Dignan writes: James> Listen also to Mercury Rev's latest opus, James> "Deserter's songs". That doesn't sound very prog to me. Maybe our definitions are different (the new Collins English Dictionary doesn't have one; an omission) but the songs aren't long, use Hammonds, or involve elves. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:53:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: commies for kids >>>>> "e" == Capitalism Blows writes: e> another great selection for the kids' tape would be James e> K. Polk. Yes, 'cos it gets them into musical saws earlier. Most of the first three TMBG albums could go on (Cowtown, Particle Man, LBIYS spring to mind). If you want to bring up your child warped (like my dad did) include Stan Freeberg, Tom Lehrer and Spike Milligan. And don't forget Fred Lane & His Hittite Hotshots' "French Toast Man" -- food hygiene tuition should start early. Stewart [currently corresponding with Julian of NMH on the finer points of saw technique.] - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:57:47 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: SH in Bristol Well, I caught up with SH as it finally reached the West of England. Robyn introduced it with a discussion of autumn, of the immortality that film confers ("you'd still want to see the Marx Brothers in 'A night in Casablanca' but you wouldn't want to see the Marx Brothers as they are today"), and mentioned that it was almost exactly 2 years ago, when he was 43, that SH was filmed. He played a song that he claimed never to have played live before (somewhere I noted a couple of phrases down, which I will post later), followed by 'Victorian Squid'. Glastonbury supremo Michael Eavis and partner dropped in to hear Robyn, but then left. There were a number of things I didn't like. Firstly, I didn't think that the 'storefront' idea worked at all. The most effective numbers were the ones where the store window was blacked out and RH just played by the light of a single bulb, or a couple of candles. Incidentally, the candles immediately created a 'skull, suitcase and red bottle of wine' atmosphere, very reminiscent of the 'Decay' period. Secondly, I really don't understand why RH plays solo electric guitar. Virtually all the numbers sound better either with just the acoustic, or alternatively with the full electric guitar, bass and drums treatment. If he was dead set on playing electric, which didn't he fly Morris and Andy in to play two or three songs? I agree with the people who said that the guitar solos often didn't come across. RH can obviously hear the rhythm backing in his head, but we can't, and it makes the solos sound very bare and lacking. In addition, I thought that the electric guitar tuning on 'Airscape' was suspect - a real pity, as this song ought to be a highlight. Thirdly, there was something seriously wrong with the pacing of the 15-song cut which I saw (has this been finalised yet?). The first half had a reasonable blend of light and shade, Deni was an asset, the songs were going well - but from then on, there was a selection of 4 or 5 fairly moody numbers, one after the other, which turned the thing into a bit of a treadmill - and the heavy anti-religion raps did nothing to alleviate this atmosphere. By the time Tim appeared (for an unduly brief spot) a lot of the audience at my show were no longer in the grip of the film - indeed, the bloke sitting next to me slept through most of it. RH then did his ghastly 'this song is not even bland' intro to 'Alright Yeah' - if he really thinks so little of it, why does he keep playing the damn thing? He could revive 'Oceanside' or 'Birdshead' or 'Only the Stones Remain' or 'Surgery' or even 'Have a heart Betty (I'm not fireproof)'. Having read that back, I realise that it looks as if I didn't like the film at all, which is not the case. 'Glass Hotel' was spot on, best thing in the film; and '1974' raised quite a few laughs of recognition from the Bristol crowd. But I thought that it could have been a whole lot better. The placing of the guests seemed eccentric - why was Deni not brought on again towards the end to do a number with Robyn and Tim? The last time I saw an RH concert (WOMAD 1997) he finished with Tim and Ntchuks Bonga jamming on a freaky version of 'Arnold Layne'. Something like that would have given the movie a much-needed lift three-quarters of the way through. - - Mike G. PS I was expecting 'Wind Cries Mary' but it was definitely not in the Bristol cut. Was it included when other people saw the film? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:00:14 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > Ben> There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on > Ben> Eno's Ambient On Land album, the other is a New Order song, > Ben> but I can't remember the name. > > Don't forget Steve Hillage's project band System7, whose '7:7 > Expansion' is much befrogged. Don't forget McCartney's frog chorus on that Rupert number. ... Oh all right, forget it again. - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:32:13 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: rapid eye movement >B Music to raise kiddles to >1-I believe Ive written about this before, but when our daughter was approx >newborn-5, if she started getting antsy in the car, crying, hungry, restless, >didnt matter what, we popped in a copy of REMs Reckoning, which had an almost >miracoulous effect. True story involving one of the kids I'm making this tape for: poor little Gwynneth, aged two at the time, burned herself quite badly and was in the hospital for a skin graft. The nurse was desperately attempting to take her blood pressure, but Gwynneth kept kicking and screaming and wouldn't let anyone touch her. I kneeled down and began to sing XTC's "Senses Working Overtime" in her ear. She immediately quieted, and the nurse took her blood pressure with no further hassle. I wonder why certain songs have magic effects on children? Quality, maybe? :) (NB: Gwynneth and her little brother only like the chorus of "Senses," not the verses. Hm.) >Jane recorded >>the mom has asked me to make a tape of songs her kids might enjoy. ... >Arethere any >>Robynsongs that might be good? Any other suggestions? Please don't call me Jane, it's not my name. >All the weird instrumental tracks on Invivislbe Hitchcock might suit a >child ! And *naturally* Invisible Hitchcock is the one Robyn album I don't own, passed up the opportunity to buy (you can laugh now, Ed), and can't find anywhere now because it's going out of print. Oh, the humanity. >another great selection for the kids' tape would be James K. Polk. oh >sure, the kids probably wouldn't get that it's an anti-imperialism song. >however, it's such a catchy, hummable tune, that it might stick with >them. and then maybe, just maybe, years later, when their history >teacher started spewing forth lies, they'd call bullshit. Eddie, these kids are being raised by die-hard anarchists. They don't need music to tell them what's what! (Although, if they had songs to teach the other kids, that could help spread the word... hm...) - - Red Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:26:53 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: frogs & progs Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > > >>>>> "James" == James Dignan writes: > > James> Listen also to Mercury Rev's latest opus, > James> "Deserter's songs". > > That doesn't sound very prog to me. Maybe our definitions are > different (the new Collins English Dictionary doesn't have one; an > omission) but the songs aren't long, use Hammonds, or involve elves. Actually, the new Mercury Rev does use Hammonds. - --Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:12:21 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Da, Da, Da >>CULT of Tchaikovksy heads, so dis him cautiously. They tend to get rabid >>when confronted with the truth. > >I've tried, but try arguing with a crazed Russophile who likes *anything* >Russian, no matter how awful it is... it's pretty painful. I wonder if this person has ever heard Duke Ellington's takes on Tchaikovsky. That version of "Dance of The Floreadores" on "Hot Summer Dance" reveals that in fact, in the right hands, it is a helluva pleasant tune. This individual would probably find that sacreligious :). >>I read a really strange biography of him once where the author spent more >>time trying to persuade the reader that Chopin wasn't gay than he did >>talking about the music. > >Funny, I've read numerous articles and biographies that try to persuade the >reader that Schubert *was* gay. Well, as Mr. Reed says, those were different times. The Chopin biography was written in the 30s, I believe. >Unfinished Symphony" to prove Schubert's homosexuality... something about >the tonalities he used being really gay, or something like that. I don't >get it, personally (and I don't think it matters all that much, either). I read something about this, if anyone's interested, in the New York Times Magazine a couple weeks ago. It's about, supposedly, reclaiming gay history and finding gay role models throughout history. I believe (I think it's the same person) she is now working on Emily Dickinson, which actually, appears to be somewhat richer territory. At least, there is an ambiguous relationship with Emily's sister-in-law to go on, which is still an endeavor fraught with peril and speculation of course, but seems to perhaps be a better place to start than tonalities :). In general I guess I'm neutral on this sort of thing. If it has a bearing on the work, then it's actually interesting, but most of the time it's just kinda like "whatever". I'm not bothered unless you must hit me over the head with it repeatedly, as Harold Bloom seems to like to do- yes Harold, Byron liked anal sex, can we talk about the POETRY now please? Have you in fact READ it or are you mainly interested in the man's boudoir activities? Geez. >"32 Short Films About Glenn Gould" is a must-see if you like Gould's work, >with lots of good music, of course. It's a great film even if you know nothing about him. I'd recommend it highly. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:42:46 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Linctus House >Hi all, > >I only very recently discovered the wonders of RH and I was blown >away in particular by the song Linctus House on the compilation cd. >Since English is not my first language I might be missing something >but does anyone know what Linctus House exactly is? (I assume that >"flesh hotel" refers to the human body. I could be wrong). I've been hoping someone else with a clearer grip on this would tackle this one, as I'm not really amazingly clear on it, but it hasn't happened yet (perhaps it is lurking in the shadows, then :)). There have been a couple discussions of this in the past. I don't think any kind of consensus was reached. Linctus IIRC is a kind of cough remedy. Someone else suggested that there is some wordplay involved, "Linctus"/"linked us". Given the rest of the material on "Eye" (the album the song appeared on originally, which you simply must acquire ASAP :)), much of which is about the dissolution of a very emotional relationship, I feel that there's something in that idea. The house that "linked us", where I now live alone, kind of thing. Anyone? Bueller? As to English not being your first language: what I said to the native French speaker who told me he loved Bob Dylan but confessed he had trouble sometimes making out his meaning- "don't worry, I do too" :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:30:33 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: early music Thank you to Michael for giving the correct name to the Vaughn Williams piece, and to two others for mentioning Marchaut, a recommendation I endorse. the best early music piece I know of is by Tallis on Angel, done by the Kings singers.I believe the title is something like Spem -- Allium(my latin is awefull, nevertheless, or because of it, I cant help feeling Ive made an off-color joke). Ill check at home for other fave raves. and while its not early music, I also go with the Wagner choice. there's a double Lp which came out in the early 70s which has his major non-vocal pieces from the operas. I love to paint to it. Gets the blood going. the reason this thread is getting a good response is cause 1-we've never done it before annd 2 - its not esoteric. Most people who love music, sooner or later, go for it. Its there, rich, varied and ---georgeous UTM K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:01:31 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie At 10:49 PM 12/8/98 -0500, Ben wrote: > > >James Dignan wrote: > >> >> Can't think of any RH song featuring croaking frogs - it could however >> >have been a song called 'Charlton Heston' by an Irish band called Stump - >> >> couldn't possibly have been Brian Eno's "The great pretender"...? > >There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on Eno's Ambient On >Land album, the other is a New Order song, but I can't remember the name. "The Perfect Kiss." Or was that crickets? - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:13:42 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: TAB: not just a beverage anymore! You will recall that the "lyrics council" recently went thru most of robyn's released songs to determine what all the words are. Well, I was just wondering if the musicians on the list would be interested in / have any time to do the same to iron out the guitar tab collected on woj's pages? These, originally collected by my pal Jay Lyall, are here: http://fegmania.org/tabs.html I have been told many of these are inaccurate or just plain wrong. I'm not inclined to put misinformation into robynbase, and i'm not enough of a musician to tell the good from the bad. So I wouldn't be much help, but I'd like to see this get done (otherwise I'll just leave tabs out of robynbase, which would be a shame , there's a field for them and everything!) what the project would need: - - a few good musicians to look at and discuss the tabs that exist and propose new ones - - ideally, a listserv set up for the project as Capuchin did - - someone to spearhead the operation as Capuchin did Interested? Questions? See me. ps. Drugs sure do make Capuchin post a lot! That cheeky monkey... Get well soon! =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:04:51 -0600 (CST) From: JH3 Subject: Did anyone else see this? So... I was flipping channels on the teevee last night around 11 pm, something I've been doing depressingly more often over the last year or two, and when i got to VH/1 I noticed a familiar character - none other than our own Robyn Hitchcock! Apparently they're doing something (every night at 11 pm) where they invite various people to play a song for exactly one minute - that's all the time they get. Sort of like the Residents' Commercial Album, I suppose. Robyn did a number called "Fleshhead", but I only caught the last 25 seconds. The song sounded fine, but I'm afraid Robyn didn't look so good. He could use a haircut... and soon. I couldn't help but think of another song, "Rabbit Train" - on the only recording I know of, he just cuts it off in the middle and says "that's as far as it goes"... >>Dinsdale Pirhana, is that you? >erk... was this question written by a 100 foot high hedgehog, by any chance? People often confuse me with Spiny Norman because of my name, but I'm really not all that spiny, and I'm only about 73 feet tall. (With lifts.) Off to catch a plane - I'd better find my mitt soon, John "The Norman Conquest" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:15:09 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Re: Did anyone else see this? > I was flipping channels on the teevee last night around 11 pm, something > I've been doing depressingly more often over the last year or two, and when > i got to VH/1 I noticed a familiar character - none other than our own Robyn > Hitchcock! VH1 is known for replaying these kinds of programs over and over again. Someone tape it!@! The last time I saw Robyn on TV was for Conan o Brien, like 3 years ago, right? And that was before he got his WB deal, right? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??? ay yay yay, - -jbj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:48:04 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: Did anyone else see this? I've seen other editions of this "show", with Peter Holsapple (however you spell it) and some other band, but not the Robyn one. JH3 wrote: > So... > > I was flipping channels on the teevee last night around 11 pm, something > I've been doing depressingly more often over the last year or two, and when > i got to VH/1 I noticed a familiar character - none other than our own Robyn > Hitchcock! > > Apparently they're doing something (every night at 11 pm) where they invite > various people to play a song for exactly one minute - that's all the time > they get. Sort of like the Residents' Commercial Album, I suppose. Robyn did > a number called "Fleshhead", but I only caught the last 25 seconds. > > The song sounded fine, but I'm afraid Robyn didn't look so good. He could > use a haircut... and soon. > > I couldn't help but think of another song, "Rabbit Train" - on the only > recording I know of, he just cuts it off in the middle and says "that's as > far as it goes"... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:40:55 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie >> There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on >> Eno's Ambient On Land album, the other is a New Order song, >> but I can't remember the name. >> >"Fine Time" off _Technique._ i never thought that those noises were frogs, hmmm... i know that 'perfect kiss' (appropriately enough) does have the croaking. >Don't forget McCartney's frog chorus on that Rupert number. do you mean 'uncle albert/admiral halsey'? always thought that those were phone rings and then the phone gets answered and it sounds like john cleese talking on the other end. some songs that could use frog noises include 'globe of frogs', 'kiss that frog', 'froggie went a-courtin', and, of course, 'i am...i said'. ken "haven't done a bloody thing all day" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:23:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Da, Da, Da MG: >In addition, I thought that the electric guitar tuning on >'Airscape' was suspect - a real pity, as this song ought to be a highlight. Aha. Maybe THAT'S why it was left off the CD. JH3: >I was flipping channels on the teevee last night around 11 pm, something >I've been doing depressingly more often over the last year or two, and when >i got to VH/1 I noticed a familiar character - none other than our own Robyn >Hitchcock! I missed it. I was too busy watching Luciano Pavarotti sing with the Spice Girls on PBS. Susan: >I read something about this, if anyone's interested, in the New York Times >Magazine a couple weeks ago. It's about, supposedly, reclaiming gay history >and finding gay role models throughout history. I believe (I think it's the >same person) she is now working on Emily Dickinson, which actually, appears >to be somewhat richer territory. At least, there is an ambiguous >relationship with Emily's sister-in-law to go on, which is still an >endeavor fraught with peril and speculation of course, but seems to perhaps >be a better place to start than tonalities :). And heeeeeere comes Marcy.... Susan: >Linctus IIRC is a kind of cough remedy. Did someone say COUGH REMEDY? Where, where?? Sucking on Cold-Eeze, Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #455 *******************************