From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #454 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 10 1998 Volume 07 : Number 454 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: whacking proggies... (with my obligatory Marillion plug!) [MARKEEFE@a] Re: Terry's Classical Question (long) [Christopher Donnell ] threads to sew with [LORDK@library.phila.gov] Re: Terry's Classical Question (long) [Terrence M Marks ] up with diversity, says Ebby [Eb ] dead dogs don't bark at midnight [tanter ] Re: threads to sew with [Carrie Galbraith ] Stuff (20% Robyn) ["Matthew Knights" ] Re: Terry's Classical Question [hal brandt ] frogs & progs [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: frogs & progs [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #453 [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Di] Re: soggie proggie froggie [Ben ] beware! commie raving herein. ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: soggie proggie froggie [S Dwarf ] UK vinyl of SH? [toby ] Re: scotch/TeX/classical [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: that classical stuff (Re: Susan) [Capuchin ] Re: Plush and Discovery [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:19:17 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: whacking proggies... (with my obligatory Marillion plug!) In a message dated 98-12-09 14:50:52 EST, The Ebster wrote: << >> I've always contended that the coffin lid was abruptly slammed >> on prog-rock with the arrival of the vapid, >> monster-selling Asia debut (released in 1980, I believe?). The fact that >> one album could announce the sell-out betrayal of so many prog-rock >> superstars at once totally crippled whatever sustenance was left in the >> movement. Prog never recovered -- it's been strictly a cult item >> ever since. >> On the other hand, I was only around 12 or so at the time and was listening to Top 40 radio, so Asia showed me that rock music didn't have to be just the Eagles and REO Speedwagon. Thanks to Asia's popularity, I learned that all the guys in that band came from all these other bands from the 70's and that they did rock music that was even weirder and more out there than Asia! I then went through a 2 year period in high school where I liked 70's prog rock (with an emphasis on Yes), which culminated in my still-thriving love for Marillion (an 80's/90's "prog"/"art" rock band which started out being compared to early Genesis but which later took on more of a mid-70's Pink Floyd sound, for those who don't already know and might, for some reason, care . . . oh, yeah, their two greatest albums, "Misplaced Childhood" and "Brave," were recently reissued on import as remastered 2-CD packages with b- sides, demos, nice artwork, stories from bandmembers, etc. Check 'em out!). What the hell was my point? Oh yeah. Sometimes bands that seem like sell-outs can actually help bridge a gap to their potentially better roots. So, yes, within the spectrum of "prog rock," Asia and "90210"-era Yes (this *was* the line-up with Brandon on keyboards and Kelly and Donna as back-up singers, right?) were sell-outs, but within the spectrum of Top 40 radio rock, they were better than a lot of other stuff. - ------Michael K., who, admittedly, can't get rid of his Asia "Alpha" CD (of all things; it's not even as good as the first, self-titled album; still, it marks a critical juncture in my life when I only owned, like, 10 tapes) and would actually just as happily listen to that as "The Yes Album" nowadays. So, take everything I just said with a boulder-sized grain of salt! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:52:18 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Re: Terry's Classical Question (long) - ---The Great Quail wrote: > > Minimalism: > > Philip Glass -- Warm, living crystalline beauty. Start with "Glassworks" > and "Songs form the Trilogy" Star Wars! Star Wars! You left off Harry Partch.. should be in the 'bizzaro' section.. ;) (and the only classical CDs I own, unless you count Star Wars soundtracks - pretty much only have them because of my Residents fascination) == Christopher Donnell Hmmm.. you might as well check out my homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~qrys _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:54:45 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Da, Da, Da >Good way of putting it. His strength was in ballet -- short, sweet, >simple. Anything past that is pushing it -- but I will say, there is a >CULT of Tchaikovksy heads, so dis him cautiously. They tend to get rabid >when confronted with the truth. I've tried, but try arguing with a crazed Russophile who likes *anything* Russian, no matter how awful it is... it's pretty painful. >I read a really strange biography of him once where the author spent more >time trying to persuade the reader that Chopin wasn't gay than he did >talking about the music. Funny, I've read numerous articles and biographies that try to persuade the reader that Schubert *was* gay. One woman, Susan McCleary I think her name is (who later received one of those "genius grants"),tried to use "The Unfinished Symphony" to prove Schubert's homosexuality... something about the tonalities he used being really gay, or something like that. I don't get it, personally (and I don't think it matters all that much, either). >You might feel a good deal >differently about Bach when you hear Glenn Gould play him. Gould is great - and if you turn up the volume enough, you can hear him mumbling and singing to himself in the background, which is... interesting. "32 Short Films About Glenn Gould" is a must-see if you like Gould's work, with lots of good music, of course. n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:52:55 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: threads to sew with So many threads, so little time to embroider... A-Classical 1-Tchakofsly has his uses. When I really really need to have a good cry, Pathetique works every time. I also cry at the Nutcracker and Swann's Lake, especially the part where Marcel cross-dresses and does a pas-de-deux with himself. what can I say, I was exposed at too early an age to :The Music-Lovers" 2-Brahms also has his uses. The first and fourth sympathys, old war-horses that they are, are so chock a block with pure melody that I think they scare some people. Romantisicm can be scary. It means bathing in the almost-bathic storm of emotions most of us try to tame, or even better, escape from, by means of ironic detachment(well, at least I do :-)) Also, the 2nd piano concerto is great, for those delusional grandiose moments when you think being heroic will lead to harmony and resolution.(see-ironic detatchment. Actually , there is a resolution therewherein my whole body tightens up, measure by measure, till that momeent outside of time when it all quicks back in with an orgasmic click.) 3-May I put a plug infor early music,say 14th -16th century. Polyphonic harmonies, for me, are mind-bending. They dont go where I expect them to go, so that, by their very strangeness, they disarm my senses and take me--- I dont know where, but its like drugs, or rathere, what drugs should be like. And they did it for better than I. Blend a Romantic with this stuff and you get Vaughn Williams whatever on a theme by Tallis. Now this is (IMHO) the music of the gods. Listen to it loud in the dark. You can feel it in your gut, vibrating up in great washes thru your heart, and then, whosh, over your head and your drowned. B Music to raise kiddles to 1-I believe Ive written about this before, but when our daughter was approx newborn-5, if she started getting antsy in the car, crying, hungry, restless, didnt matter what, we popped in a copy of REMs Reckoning, which had an almost miracoulous effect. No other REM record worked, nor anything else which we thought sounded like reconing. We figured it had to be something in the production, some wonderfull white magic spell encoded in, to still and comfort the crying babe in us all. (instead of "Paul is Dead" or "worship satan", we figured if we played it backwards we'd hear "and all is well and all will be well" or "Mercy falleth like rain" or such. Really, play it to a tantruming 2 year old . Or yourself when you feel like a tantrumming 2 year old. 2-I was raised to the lullabys of Broadway, literally. My godfather was Bobby Short, two of my Moms best buddies Hugh Shannon and Charlie Cocheran. You may never have heard of any of them, but our home resounded to gershin and Berlin and Porter and Hart and Coward and Arlen and Sondiem, etc etc. Now, while I do today have a larger collection of show tunes than any non-gay I know, you can tell by my inclusion in this list, that my musical intrests arent limited to just what my parents exposed me to. they did, however, make sure i knew that music was a blessing, that craft is important( part of my attraction to Robyn is that he's competent--knows how to structure a song, play his instrument, use words with a wild intelligence, be professional, as philistine as that sounds>) So just play what you love to kids and they will learn to love music.(by the way, does anyone else think that Robyns Heaven may have been at least subconsiously inspired by the Cheek to Cheek number in Top Hat?) Under the Mercy K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:12:16 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Terry's Classical Question (long) > You left off Harry Partch.. should be in the 'bizzaro' section.. ;) > (and the only classical CDs I own, unless you count Star Wars > soundtracks - pretty much only have them because of my Residents > fascination) I think that Harry Partch's main contribution is that he has most clearly shown the difference between 'interesting' and 'listenable'. (And yeah, I'm going to give those Bach discs another listen...) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 03:44:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Classical recomendations Mr Marks asked for classical recomendations, and I feel reasonably competent to assist him. I've been pretty heavily interested in it for about 4 years, and a constant concert attendee. My rec's: * Beethoven's reputation is well deserved, particularly the symphonies, and particularly 3,4,5,6,7,9. You can't go wrong with Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic (even if Karajan might've been a fascist.) Though, actually I think Karajan's choice of tempo for the first movement of 6 on the disk I have is a little fast. * Beethoven's piano concerto #5 (Emporer) is fun. Real BIG sounding. As big sounding as his 5th or 9th symnphony, but without the dark/ambiguous overtones of those two pieces. Nothing but sheer triumph and up, Up, UP in the concerto (though the middle movement was used to eerie effect in Picnic at Hanging Rock.) Highly melodic, but on the downside not very deeply explored in terms of development. * Similarly, Mozart's reputation is equally well deserved. All of his piano concerti are great, especially those starting in the mid teens. One disk to hunt for: Clifford Curzon playing Mozart's 23rd and 24th piano concerti (neither work is to be missed, but the former blows me away), with the recording rounded out by performances of two Schubert Impromptus. It's on London records, and you should be able to pick it up for 6 bucks new, easily. But Curzon, just makes the piano _weep_, it's incredible. No complaints about the recording quality, either. I would also like to second the recomendation made earlier for the clarinet concerto, though definitely look for a disk with both that and the oboe concerto, as both are wonderful and make great companions to each other. * Which segues into Schubert's Impromptus, which are worth owning in full by themselves. There are 8 of them, and they are for solo piano, which gives them a much more intimate quality (well, duh!) than the symphonic orchestral works mentioned above for Beethoven, or the chamber orchestra works for Mozart. My personal favorite being #6 (or the second of his second set of four.) * I'm quite partial to Copland, actually, and if you're into the whole alt.country or No Depression thing, you might like him also. There's such a wonderful spirit of idealized America in his work, it evokes very powerfully in me the image of what our country might be (or, for the more jaded among us, what it never was.) There's a disk out on Sony, with Bernstein conducting (you couldn't ask for anyone better; Bernstein and Copland were close friends, and he treats the music with obvious reverence) containg the suites for Appalachian Spring, Rodeo, and Billy the Kid, all of which are worthy pieces. The last movement of Rodeo is best known for being the "Beef commercial song" (great gnashing of teeth by me, a vegetarian), but it's the third movement that REALLY stands out for me. Called "Cowboy Waltz", it's lyrical, graceful, and tranquil, and I often queue it up to listen to all by itself. * Finally, one self-indulgent, idiosyncratic choice: Ralph Vaughan Williams' Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis. Listening to the local classical radio station, I heard the first dozen bars or so of this, and LITERALLY collapsed, hypnotized, eyes as wide as saucers, while I listened in awed attention to the rest of the piece. I soon afterwards emailed my friend (and fellow classical enthusiast) Adam, and told him this: Adam- Just a quick note: I think I found the meaning of life yesterday. It's called "Fantasia on a Theme by Tallis" by Ralph Vaughan Williams. I've got maybe 50 to 70 years of life left, but I can die now. - -Michael I won't go on any further, though I am tempted. There are gobs of pieces that I could wax on and on about, even though I have only scratched the surface of what's out there. Sorry about the lack of Robyn content. If anyone has an interest (or, dare I hope, reactions based on my recomendations), I would LOVE to discuss this further, so feel free to email me off-line. - -Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:07:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: up with diversity, says Ebby I think it's very interesting that this classical thread has prompted more ardent participation than most of the pop/rock threads! Admittedly, I don't have many strong opinions on classical music (not even Tomita...heh heh), so I'm content to merely observe. Incidentally, there's a recent Brian Wilson concert making the rounds of PBS this week. Keep an eye out. Here, it's tomorrow night at 9:30 pm. Eb, wondering whatever happened to the BW tour beginning in October http://www5.rocktropolis.com/main/allstar/reviews.asp?artid=5186 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:26:43 -0500 From: tanter Subject: dead dogs don't bark at midnight Package mailed to Canada today. Hopefully she'll get it in time for Hannukah!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:39:18 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: threads to sew with At 1.52 PM -0800 12/9/98, LORDK@library.phila.gov wrote:>3-May I put a plug infor early music,say 14th -16th century. Polyphonic >harmonies, for me, are mind-bending. They dont go where I expect them to go, >so that, by their very strangeness, they disarm my senses and take me--- >I dont know where, but its like drugs, or rathere, what drugs should be >like. >And they did it for better than I. Blend a Romantic with this stuff and you >get Vaughn Williams whatever on a theme by Tallis. Now this is (IMHO) the >music of the gods. Listen to it loud in the dark. You can feel it in your >gut, >vibrating up in great washes thru your heart, and then, whosh, over your head >and your drowned. Wow. I could never have expressed this so well. I've been obsessed with early music for years and always, always come back to it at the end of the day (figuratively speaking). It takes me places... May I suggest the regulars of course, Thomas Tallis and Hildegard of Bingen (Composers, not groups) but also Guillaume de Machaut (1300-1377), my buddy Alphonse X El Sabio (composing between 1250-80) and the incompparable Johannes Coconia (1370-1412). Also look under the performers, groups such as The Hillaird Ensamble, Tallis Scholars, Project Ars Nova, Anonymous 4, Ensemble Alcatraz, Gothic Voices, New London Consort and, of course, Sequentia, to name just a few. I could go on about early music for days but I won't. But with that all said and done, my morning started at 6 am with Eye, loud and clear. Strange choice for waking... Be Seeing You, - - Carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:50:37 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Stuff (20% Robyn) Mr Tews exclaimed ... >that's great. but what about a fucking US tour?? Patience Patience ! You had him all this year ! >he played Clean Steve just recently, but before that, it had been a while. >and he hasn't played Gene Hackman in ages. In my arrogant opinion, the words of CS are entertaining but the song is weak. I say the less CS gets played the better. Gene Hackman's a funnier song and more pleasant on the ears. BTW thoroughly enjoyed a Gene Hackman potboiler western shown on TV last weekend. He was a thoroughly evil gunfighter duelling with Sharon Stone. film summary ... Evil Grin count Too many to mention Towel count None Andie McDowell count None Dog named Lazlo count One Jane recorded >the mom has asked me to make a tape of songs her kids might enjoy. ... Arethere any >Robynsongs that might be good? Any other suggestions? All the weird instrumental tracks on Invivislbe Hitchcock might suit a child ! Eb ebbed > For some considerable time now, I have identified the need for ELP to move forward artistically Those sad mothers. Didn't they expire when I was still at school ? Reminds me of those stubborn household pests you have to kill twice. Mr Marks considered >And incidentally, what sort of classical music do you-all reccomend? 70's Soft Boys bootleg tapes Monteverdi Vespers Schubert C Major Quintet John Dowland - Lute music Machaut - Messe de Notre Dame Lohengrin - Wagner Plus future classics .... I don't Remember Guidlford & I feel beautiful ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:54:23 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Terry's Classical Question Some excellent modern-day classical: Frank Zappa's "The Yellow Shark" /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:57:41 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: frogs & progs >> Can't think of any RH song featuring croaking frogs - it could however >have been a song called 'Charlton Heston' by an Irish band called Stump - couldn't possibly have been Brian Eno's "The great pretender"...? >That's when I thought I got off the bus. King Crimson, as previously >noted, is the surviving exception. But what about XTC? Don't tell >me "Millions" isn't progressive! And "River of Orchids"? Proggies >gotta love that! It's not all that far from Gentle Giant, now is it? check also some work in recent years by Australia's The Church. They've wandered around the musical wilderness (unjustifiably) for years, and occasionally (such as much of their "Magician Among the Spirits" album) get very close to prog. Listen also to Mercury Rev's latest opus, "Deserter's songs". I have a feeling that in many ways the whole goth sound owes much to prog, too - someone already mentioned the Cure, but I'd throw in the likes of the Sisters of Mercy and Mission as having prog tendencies. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:10:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: frogs & progs James wrote: >check also some work in recent years by Australia's The Church. Broken record...broken record...broken record.... ;) Eb, still unburdened with any Church material ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:12:09 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #453 >And hey, (answering something someone else said) -I- would call Gershwin a >"classical" composer, in the broadest sense. Maybe not "Stairway to >Paradise", but what would you call "American in Paris" eh? twas I. I would call "An American in Paris" something that it's damn hard to shift from your brain if you get the main theme stuck in there (as I had most of last weekend). In the broad sense it is classical, but in a narrower sense a lot of his stuff sounds far too close to jazz. The again, you could say that Dvorak, Copland (without the 'e' - sorry for my earlier mistook), and many other classical composers sound far too close to traditional folk songs. Which is another way of saying that Gershwin is as obviously classical as they are. >>Okay, so I'm cruel. >>But I'm fair... >Dinsdale Pirhana, is that you? erk... was this question written by a 100 foot high hedgehog, by any chance? James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 22:49:56 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie James Dignan wrote: > >> Can't think of any RH song featuring croaking frogs - it could however > >have been a song called 'Charlton Heston' by an Irish band called Stump - > > couldn't possibly have been Brian Eno's "The great pretender"...? There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on Eno's Ambient On Land album, the other is a New Order song, but I can't remember the name. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 20:04:56 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: beware! commie raving herein. another great selection for the kids' tape would be James K. Polk. oh sure, the kids probably wouldn't get that it's an anti-imperialism song. however, it's such a catchy, hummable tune, that it might stick with them. and then maybe, just maybe, years later, when their history teacher started spewing forth lies, they'd call bullshit. now, obviously it wouldn't be just that (or any) one song that would raise a red flag. but a dearly-loved song you learned when you were just a little person? could certainly be an element! by the way, anybody else hear a lot of early they might be giants in ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE? also, Welcome To The Occupation. okay, it's not such a kid-friendly tune, maybe. but a more withering indictment of imperialsim has scarceley ever been set to music. yes, i do think the first three songs on DOCUMENT were the highlight of r.e.m.'s career. <>Robynsongs that might be good? Any other suggestions? All the weird instrumental tracks on Invivislbe Hitchcock might suit a child !> yes, i was thinking this as well (i told you i'd be thinking about this all week!) Mr. Deadly, Star Of Hairs, Dr. Sticky (es*pecially* Dr. Sticky! of course, russ wouldn't approve, as it wasn't on the original release proper...), The Abondoned Brain, maybe even Falling Leaves. <>that's great. but what about a fucking US tour?? Patience Patience ! You had him all this year !> not really. we had him for a majority of '97, true. but except for the *very* miniature "tour" in june, and a few other special engagements, that's been about it. hey, that reminds me! anybody remember the date and venue of the sxsw gig this year? please let me know! of course, you know what robyn himself says: "i live in the u.k., but i work in the u.s.." (this is something i've always wondered about: if you end a sentence with an abbreviation, are you supposed to put another period on there? it makes sense, but i can't remember ever having seen it. oh, as long as i'm asking idiotic questions, here's another: if you send an e-mail to a group of people, *and* bcc one or more people, and then someone replies-all, are the bcc'd folks included in that reply? just wondering.) well, the great thing about that is that it's gone through so many diferent arrangements. surely you can find *something* in there you like, matt? my brother was introduced to that song with the wild PERSPEX tour take on THOTH BOYS, and shortly after the bumbershoot show announced that he didn't like this acoustic geetar version. personally, i like them all, but i think i dig it on piano the most. too bad robyn feels like the only songs he's allowed to play live on piano are Flavour Of Night, The Lizard, and Ted, Woody And Junior! viv, i don't think i've ever forbid anyone from playing a non-robyn artist in my presence (of course, i may have been thinking to myself, "how could that fucking chump have chosen *this* over ROBYN?" but that's a whole other loom of cotton candy.) bayard? Obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy publications or writings, or mail containing information on where, how, or from whom such matter may be obtained, and matter that is otherwise mailable but that has on its wrapper or envelope any indecent, lewd, lascivious, or obscene writing or prinitng, and any mail containing any filthy, vile, or indecent thing is nonmailable (18 USC 1461, 1463). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:17:41 +0800 (SGT) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: soggie proggie froggie Ben wrote: > There's two songs with frog noises I can think of, one is on Eno's Ambient On > Land album, the other is a New Order song, but I can't remember the name. "Fine Time" off _Technique._ "...You know I've met a lot of cool chicks. But I've never met a girl with all her own teeth That's why I love you babe. That's why we could be..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:30:55 +0000 (GMT) From: toby Subject: UK vinyl of SH? Is SH available on vinyl in the UK? HMV claim it's only on CD, but they have two CD versions (one £15, one £20, I think...). Toby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:46:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: scotch/TeX/classical >>>>> "Marshall" == Marshall Joseph Armintor writes: Marshall> I have to second Gene about the greatness of Oban Marshall> scotch, neat Oabn's not a bad introduction. Laphroaig, Bunnahabhain and (the much lighter) Highland Park would be my choice. The latter two also seemed popular with my midwestern wedding guests, who destroyed my stock of them :-( And it's not scotch, it's whisky. I wouldn't clean spoons with the other stuff :-) Marshall> the old guard sticks with TeX. Why change if it's never been bettered? Marshall> Not exactly easy to use, though. Bah. It's dead simple. I've only been working with it for ten years, and I'm a semi-skilled beginner. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:24:18 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Plush and Discovery On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 lobstie@e-z.net wrote: > kick the monitor > pour tacks in the floppy slot > my program !=compile Programming and math? You surprise me, lobsterman Logic becomes you Helping while this monkey still can... Je. PS. Please let me kill her Crush her monster noggin skull Her heart won't go on Aching in the jaw Popping vicadin tic-tacs Fuck work on Friday (unoriginal, but a favorite: Oh dear, just begun And already fresh out of Syllab -- AH! MY EYE! ) ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: that classical stuff (Re: Susan) On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, The Great Quail wrote: > This letter is brought to you by "Dis," the slang, not the sppoky place. Robyn said "dis" in Seattle (okay, "dissed"). Still shocked me. > (How can you not like the last few movements of "Symphonie > Fantastique?") Oh, it's really easy. I promise. > PPS: Gnat pointed out that I omitted Michael Nyman -- aaaaargh! He is one > of my FAVORITES, and that was completely an oversight. Sorry. As > punishment, I will take three hits of acid and watch Prospero's Books > backwards while chanting random numbers. Well, sure... but how are you going to GENERATE the random numbers. Now that's interesting. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:09:56 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Plush and Discovery On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, VIV LYON wrote: > I recently got inexcusably irritated when my boyfriend fished out a > Billy Bragg tape in my car and put it in the tape deck. "What the fuck > is this?" I barked. I knew what it was, but it was jarring to hear > music by, you know, someone else. > (Yes, Dave, this is the true reason I was pissed that night. But it's > so stupid that I could only admit it in a public forum.) Dump him. Je. PS. You think I'm kidding? Dump him. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #454 *******************************