From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #449 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, December 7 1998 Volume 07 : Number 449 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: You laughed you laughed I heard you laugh [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Amoeba stuff [Jason Thornton ] Cone preservation and fave discoveries ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Cone preservation and fave discoveries [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: dire tragedy for proggies (especially Susan) [Tom Clark ] Re: Uncorrected personality traits ["Capitalism Blows" ] next up, the GTO's [Eb ] Re: Catching up... [Gary Assassin ] Re: Catching up... [Tom Clark ] Re: Open letter on FegTree 1 [hal brandt ] Re: RE: Catching up... [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Re: Best of 98 / fave discoveries [Ben ] Re: Open letter on FegTree 1 ["Capitalism Blows" ] Fave Discoveries [Joel Mullins ] "spontaneous within the bounds of professionalism." ["Capitalism Blows" <] Spoken word tape and Randi (was RE: Catching up...) ["John B. Jones" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:42:18 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: You laughed you laughed I heard you laugh On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Eb wrote: > The original song "They're Coming > to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" is by Napoleon XIV, which was released on a > same-titled 1966 album. "Napoleon XIV" was the nom de plume for a comedy > writer named Jim Lehner. He appeared on Ready Steady Go when it was a UK hit, and there was a big fanfare and stuff about how he was going to take off his mask on the show. Eventually he did, and it was a huge anticlimax because everyone was expecting him to be Paul McCartney, or Bela Lugosi, or Victor Spinetti or something, and - nothing! there was just this ordinary looking bloke underneath. Bathos or what? And as for creative artist Paul Delvaux - chee! "Oh, I'll do a picture - I know, I'll put a skeleton in it"... "Time to do another picture - might as well put in a nude"... "Now what? Got it, this time I'll put in a skeleton _and_ a nude"... "I'm really running out of ideas - aha! I know, 6 skeletons and 4 nudes".. "Really stuck this time. Eureka! 8 nudes and 7 skeletons!" etc etc - - Mike G. "Merry go, merry go, merry go round" [Beep beep beep] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:07:04 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: ...the middle-aged suicide! Oi! >The other Personality Disorders are Narcissistic, Histrionic, Avoidant, >Schizotypal, Paranoid, Borderline, Dependent, and Obsessive-Compulsive. >I'll post a list of the diagnostic criteria, or just email privately, if >anybody's interested. > >Suggestions? Histrionic - anything by Tori Amos and/or Alanis DiFranco (come on! you saw that coming!) Borderline - I was friends with a person who was eventually diagnosed as Borderline. She was pretty fucking psycho. If I were to think of a song that summed her up... "She's Lost Control," maybe. Dependent - "If You Leave Me, Can I Come Too?" by... Mental as Anything? Is that what they were called? >somewhere in there you have to include "Mania" by Throwing Muses Ah, sorry. Mania isn't a personality disorder, it's a mood disorder. Turn in your copy of DSM-IV at the door, please... >I merely told Eb that I thought XTC is the second greatest band ever, >after The Beatles. I never gush in public. JH3 will have to do that, >now that Natalie has fallen from the garden. ;) Even at the height of my XTC fanaticism, I never claimed they were second only to the Beatles. Steve and John H. have me beat there, I'm afraid. :) That said, having heard some of the new material, I do think the forthcoming album(s) are going to be pretty darn good. >Rambling and fearing the time-loss of general anasthetic. >Je. -- under the knife Wednesday. Randy give me strength. Oooh, ouch. I hate general anesthesia. Good luck... and remember to get a popsicle afterwards. The hospital is obliged to give you a popsicle, at the very least. >Grant Lee Buffalo are performing here in Adelaide in Jan .Should I go and see >them ? I read a positive review of their live act once, what are they like >now ? Eb will, of course, violently disagree, but I saw them a few years ago and thought they rocked. I would probably go see them again if given the opportunity. procrastinatin' n. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:41:28 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Amoeba stuff At 03:59 PM 12/6/98 -0800, J. Katherine Rossner wrote: >Wandering through Amoeba Records in Berkeley this afternoon, I looked >through the RH section. In the "used" area there were several >discs--Uncorrected Personality Traits, Perspex Island, You and Oblivion, >Invisible Hitchcock, Storefront--and one tiny one: a 3" (?) disc with >Globe of Frogs and two other songs (of course now that I'm posting I forget >what they are, but probably the rest of you know anyway). It was marked >rare and out of print, so I thought I'd mention it in case anybody's >looking for this... I think you're talking about the Balloon Man single. It's got the so-called "electric" version of Globe of Frogs, as well as a slightly different (ie, BETTER!) version of "The Ghost Ship." I love those little MiniDisc sized CD's. I have about 10 of them, including a couple of Rattle & Hum era U2 singles, and a copy of Skinny Puppy's "VIVIsectVI." I wish they had continued to release CD singles on that format - the larger CD's seem like such a waste of space for two or three songs. The longer, 18 remixes of the same song by groups like Depeche Mode, which "replace" 12" singles make more sense, of course. - --Jason "'OK Computer' is a fucking fantastic record" Thornton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:46:06 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Cone preservation and fave discoveries I have a suspicious feeling that the ink on my cone isn't going to last forever, so I figure some sort of preservation activity is in order. Has anybody done such a thing? Can anyone recommend a good spray-on glue or preservative? Oh, I don't have a favorite album of 1998. I've never paid that much attention to that sort of yearly thing. I usually have favorite *discoveries,* however. This year, my favorite discovery is Robert Wyatt. I bought "Shleep" a few months ago and many of my prayers have been answered. I've dabbled in the Soft Machine and some other Canterbury stuff (I'm a curious, closet Proggie), but after getting sick of angry, pretentious, overbusy music which tries too hard to make a point, I came upon, quite by accident, "Shleep." Wyatt's singing and music is soft and fuzzy and warm and it makes me smile, and I've been hooked ever since. I can see myself picking up everything he's ever recorded. Some of my favorite other discoveries this year are Calexico, "Starship Troopers," Texas Martinis, Mac OS 8.5, the fact that Rudy Rucker's "Software" is being made into a movie, Oban scotch, and the Soft Boys' "The Day They Ate Brick." All in all, it's been a good year for me. "As an alternative to harmful drugs like marijuana, encourage your kids to experiment with safe, legal substances like cigarettes and alcohol." -- The Onion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:58:53 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor Subject: XTC stuff <> Don't remember if fellow Chalkhiller James Dignan and somebody else has weighed in on this, but XTC's got two volumes of a record called _Apple Venus_ coming out, with the "orchestral" record in January, followed by the "electric" record in maybe February. Guns 'n' Roses indeed. Anybody who's got Patridge's AV demos will tell you both albums are going to be, in so many words, complete and total frog-stranglers which will wipe the landscape with other, lesser releases, in the process moving the goalposts, raising the bar, and widening the gutters re pop music in general. Honestly, if for nothing else other than that XTC deserves my cash for all those years of happiness, I'll try to be first in line at my local store when the first CD comes out. They'll be pretty damn good, and in my opinion, I think Partridge has turned another surprising corner as far as songwriting goes: this is a shift of _Mummer_-like proportions. marshall np Mingus at Antibes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:24:52 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Cone preservation and fave discoveries At 9.46 AM -0800 12/7/98, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >I have a suspicious feeling that the ink on my cone isn't going to last >forever, so I figure some sort of preservation activity is in order. Has >anybody done such a thing? Can anyone recommend a good spray-on glue or >preservative? > Try "Fixative" or, better yet, "Crystal Clear". The danger with Fixative would be that it would make the ink run or bleed. Crystal Clear is a much more effective sealant but could affect the plastic (can't remember, these cones are hard plastic, right? I stupidly didn't buy one thinking I'd get it at the next show...). If it's hard plastic, the Crystal Clear might not hurt it. I use "Blair Spray Fix" but, as I said, it's a workable, matte fix and might make the ink do strange things. I'm a big fan of "Krylon Crystal Clear" but any Acrylic spray coating will work. Oh, and work outside on a still day. This stuff is a disaster on your lungs! And of course, ALWAYS try these products on a similar surface and ink first before applying directly to the cone!!!! - - carrie np: Dylan's "John Wesley Harding" "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:30:31 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Gushing in public Steve S. writes: >I merely told Eb that I thought XTC is the second greatest band ever, >after The Beatles. I never gush in public. JH3 will have to do that, >now that Natalie has fallen from the garden. ;) ...And Natalie: >Even at the height of my XTC fanaticism, I never claimed they were second >only to the Beatles. Steve and John H. have me beat there, I'm afraid. :) Okay, just for the record, I rank XTC Numero Uno in virtually all categories, over the Beatles, Robyn, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Air Supply, ELP, The Shaggs, Michael Bolton, and everybody else. Go 2 is still my all-time favorite album after 19 years. On the other hand, if someone were to ask me which of my fave rawk-starz I would most want to be LIKE, as in personally emulate, Robyn H. would probably #1, maybe in a tie with Screamin' Lord Sutch, whereas Andy & Colin would barely make the list. (Not that anyone should necessarily be interested in my aesthetic or personal values.) And yes, literally thousands of people, including myself, have copies of demos from the new XTC album (Apple Venus Vol. I, not Transistor Blast), and I've yet to hear anyone say they weren't absolutely bowled over by them. Natalie also writes: >"The Off-White Album" (Newell) and "Lizardland" (Brotherhood of Lizards, >duh) are both pretty good, but not quite up to the level of "Englishman." >I saw a Cleaners from Venus compilation in a shop a few months ago and >didn't buy it - now it's gone! D'oh! Rubbing It In Dept.: I might have mentioned this earlier, but "Golden Cleaners" and "Back to the Cleaners" are both far better albums than either "Off-White" or "Lizardland". And much harder to find, at least in the US. I think you can supposedly still get it from JARMusic, Newell's German label, whose address escapes me at the moment. John H. "Gliding Past" Hedges 'n' Clocks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:21:24 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: dire tragedy for proggies (especially Susan) >I have therefore decided, it is in my own, -- and in the band's -- best >interest, that I depart at this time and pursue my solo career. > >I am deeply grateful to all of the fans of ELP who have supported the band >over the years, and it goes without saying, that I sincerely wish Keith and >Carl the very best of luck in whatever future endeavors they may choose. > >Kind regards, >Greg Lake (CRICKET, CRICKET, CRICKET...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:48:33 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: it's too early for me to think of a subject line In a message dated 12/7/98 6:06:48 AM, you wrote: <<>2. Having now finally gotten Martin Newell's Greatest Living Englishman >(which I love!), which other Newell/Cleaners from Venus/Brotherhood of >Lizards would you recommend? Susan? Michael K.? Anybody?>> I missed this original post somehow. All I have is the Cleaners From Venus' "Golden Cleaners," which is a fantastic collection of some of their best material. It's hard to find, but I think there are a few places at GEMM (www.gemm.com) that list it as being available. I found it through there. Then again, I find almost everything obscure through GEMM! :-) - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:53:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Catching up... Jonh P. RE: Launch CD: >By the way, installing the CD / getting it to work was a massive >pain in the rear and further intensified my low regard for the >quality of Windows OS and application software. Hmmm, looked and sounded great on my Mac. I can't understand why the Windows version would suck so much... Carole R.: >Dream #1. What happened? Oh, not much. My sister & I and some other unseen >Fegs were in Robyn's house, for he was about to have a big party. Robyn >was out getting provision, I guess. In the meantime, I remember exploring >Robyn's house with a peculiar voyeuristic thrill..I peeked into the >kitchen, saw all the dishes & the dishrack and thought, "oh! that's the >dishrack in the "Driving Aloud" video!" I opened the fridge, and >delightedly found a six-pack of beer with the "thoth" symbol-logo on all >of them. Too cool! I woke up before Robyn came back, or before I could >drink a beer. Sad. > Funny, if you substitute "Quail" for "Robyn", this is what happened at FegFest last May! >Dream #2. I was in a completely dark room, holding >hands with some fellow, feeling quite happy, for it was Robyn's hand. >(hey, a girl can tell these things!) That's all that happened too. > Unfortunately, so did this... Katherine R.: >The other Personality Disorders are Narcissistic, Histrionic, Avoidant, >Schizotypal, Paranoid, Borderline, Dependent, and Obsessive-Compulsive. >I'll post a list of the diagnostic criteria, or just email privately, if >anybody's interested. > >Suggestions? Try an in depth analysis of the songs of Nick Drake or Daniel Johnston. - -tc The Furby Autopsy! http://www.phobe.com/furby/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:12:15 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Uncorrected personality traits <(and undoubtedly the most knowledgeable about the more unusual stuff> yeah, like how to shellack cones! i think carrie's post proves for once and for all that the fegs are #1. rah! rah! rah! fegs #1! i presume even eb could agree that you've gotta include some wesley willis here. Outburst is, really, an almost heartbreaking song. also see Chronic Schizophrenia and Don't Curse In God's House. and john's right: Jerusalem as a great example of megalomania. <> ha! that's a double negative. there's a nice discussion of it on the o'donoghue interview. says that everyone assumed that people would get tired of the "rap" in the middle after a few listens, so they cut a version without it, and it somehow didn't seem right. and, even after twenty listens, robyn himself had not gotten tired of it. by the way, eb, did you know that on this disc, robyn says that andy and morris are too good to be slumming it with him, and that they really should be playing with elvis costello? two more suggestions for your kids' tape, natalie: Sister Ray and My Ding-A-Ling. and i'm serious! if you put those on there, i should think you'd be a cinch for the feg-o'-the-year award. i mean, how much would you pay to hear a whole kindergarten class singing along to Sister Ray? KEN "Omak Stampede" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:21:57 -0800 From: "Partridge, John" Subject: RE: Catching up... > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark@apple.com] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 10:53 AM > To: Fegmaniax! > Subject: Catching up... > > > Jonh P. RE: Launch CD: > >By the way, installing the CD / getting it to work was a massive > >pain in the rear and further intensified my low regard for the > >quality of Windows OS and application software. > > Hmmm, looked and sounded great on my Mac. I can't understand why the > Windows version would suck so much... Tell me about it - I was a Mac developer at Microsoft long long ago in a galaxy far far away. Knowing and seeing how to do the job the *right* way makes experiencing Win95 all the more excruciating. By the way, this talk about Robyn interviews sparked a thought: what's the status of the spoken word tape? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:29:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: next up, the GTO's JH3: >Okay, just for the record, I rank XTC Numero Uno in virtually all >categories, over the Beatles, Robyn, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Air Supply, >ELP, The Shaggs, Michael Bolton, and everybody else. Go 2 is still my >all-time favorite album after 19 years. Huh. And yet Go 2 is my least favorite XTC album. Go Figger. Stewart: >So if Greg has left the band, they're looking for a vocalist and bass >player with a last name starting with L . . . > >step forward, Geddy Lee! Yes, the proggie newsgroup is way ahead of you on this one. Tony Levin was also mentioned. Personally, I liked a deviant suggestion much better: Lemmy! Gene: >Oh, I don't have a favorite album of 1998. I've never paid that much >attention to that sort of yearly thing. I usually have favorite >*discoveries,* however. This year, my favorite discovery is Robert Wyatt. > >Some of my favorite other discoveries this year are Calexico, "Starship >Troopers," Texas Martinis, Mac OS 8.5, the fact that Rudy Rucker's >"Software" is being made into a movie, Oban scotch, and the Soft Boys' "The >Day They Ate Brick." Yup, "discoveries" is a category which I think about, too. My discoveries this year include Rufus Wainwright (of course), Air, Snowpony, Sean Lennon, Club Off Chaos, Sugarsmack, Arnold Schoenberg, Super Furry Animals, Money Mark, Kristian Hoffman, the Grays, the Hang Ups, the Grassy Knoll, Photek, Little Red Rocket, Tubetop, Fluid Ounces and Firewater. I can't say that any of these finds truly excited me, however, beyond Rufus and Schoenberg. Mayyybe Super Furry Animals. Such a jaded, oversaturated f*ck am I. Eb, still dismissing Grant Lee Buffalo as "music for lighter-waving" Fave rec.music.progressive quote of the week: "I haven't been able to get a hold of Ulf in months." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: Catching up... What is this Launch CD I keep hearing about? Where can I get it? > Jonh P. RE: Launch CD: > >By the way, installing the CD / getting it to work was a massive > >pain in the rear and further intensified my low regard for the > >quality of Windows OS and application software. > > Hmmm, looked and sounded great on my Mac. I can't understand why the > Windows version would suck so much... > > Carole R.: > >Dream #1. What happened? Oh, not much. My sister & I and some other unseen > >Fegs were in Robyn's house, for he was about to have a big party. Robyn > >was out getting provision, I guess. In the meantime, I remember exploring > >Robyn's house with a peculiar voyeuristic thrill..I peeked into the > >kitchen, saw all the dishes & the dishrack and thought, "oh! that's the > >dishrack in the "Driving Aloud" video!" I opened the fridge, and > >delightedly found a six-pack of beer with the "thoth" symbol-logo on all > >of them. Too cool! I woke up before Robyn came back, or before I could > >drink a beer. Sad. > > > > Funny, if you substitute "Quail" for "Robyn", this is what happened at > FegFest last May! > > >Dream #2. I was in a completely dark room, holding > >hands with some fellow, feeling quite happy, for it was Robyn's hand. > >(hey, a girl can tell these things!) That's all that happened too. > > > > Unfortunately, so did this... > > Katherine R.: > >The other Personality Disorders are Narcissistic, Histrionic, Avoidant, > >Schizotypal, Paranoid, Borderline, Dependent, and Obsessive-Compulsive. > >I'll post a list of the diagnostic criteria, or just email privately, if > >anybody's interested. > > > >Suggestions? > > Try an in depth analysis of the songs of Nick Drake or Daniel Johnston. > > -tc > The Furby Autopsy! > http://www.phobe.com/furby/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:54:47 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Catching up... On 12/7/98 11:41 AM, Gary Assassin wrote: >What is this Launch CD I keep hearing about? Where can I get it? http://www.launchcdrom.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:21:30 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Open letter on FegTree 1 steve wrote: > > My branch on FegTree 1 failed to respond to my two emails so I asked one > of the "super dupers" if he could help me out. Turns out that he never > got the tapes from *his* contact. > > So folks, if you're going sign up for a tape tree, PLEASE fulfill the > responsibility you're taking on. FegTree 1 should have been finished > *weeks* ago. I'm having similar problems with tree #1. If you don't want to do the dubs, contact Bayard and have him delete you from the tree. John wrote: > > By the way: what's > the status of the spoken word tape? Perpetual limbo. Frustrated, /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:22:06 -0800 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Re: RE: Catching up... > By the way, this talk about Robyn interviews sparked a thought: what's > the status of the spoken word tape? Randi still has it. We figured she could just keep it and work on it when she's finally free and away from that damn hospital. Keep the faith... Anyone received any news of Randi lately? Mike __________________________________________ Sent using WebInbox. "Your email gateway." Check us out at http://www.webinbox.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 15:20:32 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: Best of 98 / fave discoveries Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Oh, I don't have a favorite album of 1998. I've never paid that much > attention to that sort of yearly thing. I usually have favorite > *discoveries,* however. This year, my favorite discovery is Robert Wyatt. This is a good point, looking at all the top 50 lists this year (I personally am making a top 50 list of other top 50 lists), it seems 1998 has been the year of.... BOB DYLAN?!?!?! My favorite discovery of the year was the cool, rare boxed version of "Ziggy Stardust", for only $10! Reissue, repackage, regurgitate : ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:30:13 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Open letter on FegTree 1 > By the way: what's > the status of the spoken word tape? Perpetual limbo. Frustrated,> actually, randi has it. i think we can all understand her taking a little extra time! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 14:36:25 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Fave Discoveries I liked Gene's idea about his favorite discoveries of the year. That usually makes more of an impression on me too. So here's my favorite of the artists I discovered during the past year, some of which I should have discovered years ago: John Cale Elvis Costello (thanks to you guys) David Bowie "Aladdin Sane" Nick Drake (once again thanks to you guys) Liz Phair Morphine And now I can probably add Elliot Smith to that list (yes, thanks to you guys). That's probably my favorite thing about this RH list. The discussions on Robyn are great, but I love the fact that I can usually trust your opinions on other music. It's a great way for me to get introduced to new music that I've never heard of before. And one of the most exciting things in life is getting really turned on to a new artist/band. So, everyone give yourself a big pat on the back. You've helped make my year in music a wonderful experience! Thanks Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:46:45 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "spontaneous within the bounds of professionalism." coupla notes on the museum's disco: - --GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS is listed, while WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? is not. - --a&m's GREATEST HITS is listed, but there's no link for the tracklist/cover art. presumably we can take this to mean that robyn doesn't endorse this record, although i did once hear him say that he thought they'd done a pretty good job trying to mix in the rarities with the "hits." well, hopefully they've just not gotten around to putting this info. up. i like GREATEST HITS quite a bit. - --it's spelled DeChirico Street, while his name is apparently (judging from the "further study" area) spelt de Chirico. - --he rates the sleeves for all the bootlegs! how cool is that? 1980 REHEARSALS = "lousy" THE SOFT BOYS = "poor quality" LIVE, NOVEMBER '86 = "sub-standard" THE MAN WHO INVENTED HIMSELF = "great" TIN OF CRABS = "exemplary" MORE SONGS ABOUT CHURCHES AND FISH = "fine" A SOFT BOY NO MORE = "good" THE HOODED ONE = "great" hey, i didn't know there was a boot of the 2nd bingo hand job gig. do you have these, mr. partridge? "Bingo Hand Job. Robyn played at both of these shows at the Borderline in 1991. The LP and CD of the second show (15 March 1991) includes only "Listening To The Higsons," with Robyn's Billy Bragg's and Peter Holsapple's solo parts appearing only on the tapes. "Higsons" was performed by the entire "cast" of BHJ on the 15th only. The Egyptians played on the first night; only Robyn and Morris played on the second night." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:32:33 -0800 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: Spoken word tape and Randi (was RE: Catching up...) >By the way, this talk about Robyn interviews sparked a thought: what's >the status of the spoken word tape? Well, Randi has it. I've written her a few times, just to mention it, but have never heard back. Not that I'm ticked or anything, considering what she has been going through for the past many years. That makes me wonder: We haven't heard from Randi lately, or even from Tim. Anyone know how she's doing??? Marcy, did you get the goodies sent off to her? And if so, have you heard back from her? =jbj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:40:15 -0800 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Groovy Decoy: what the hell happened? I realized that Groovy Decoy has its defenders, and I would agree that some of the songs are worthwhile, but I think the consensus is that the production on the album is horrible, and a couple of the songs are really bad. So what happened? I have a general idea of the circumstances surrounding the album: problems with alcohol, an uncertain future, inexperience in the studio, rotten session musicians. But does anyone know the whole story? I was thinking about this recently because I was reading a book about Bob Dylan called Behind the Shades, which is an extremely detailed account of his concerts and recording sessions to date, even up to the point of including a "sessionography". Far from dismissing Dylan's below average output in the late eighties and early nineties, the book breaks down what happened in those sessions: how the musicians were chosen, the unused tracks, the remixing and overdubs, etc. It really shed light on how the final compositions came about, and it ocurred to me that Robyn only has a little of that kind of documentation for the album recordings (via the Rhino re-issue liner notes) and virtually none regarding his tours. That might be a worthwhile project for someone, pulling together raw data like names and dates and places with quotations and speculation. It's certainly something I'd like to read. - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:30:51 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: A show I'm sure Eb missed... I love writeups like this.... - -tc - --------------------------------------------------------------- REVIEW/MUSIC: Goo Goo Dolls slide to new depths Goo Goo Dolls (Palace; 1,250 capacity; $16.50) By Troy J. Augusto HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Guitarist Johnny Rzeznik and bassist Robby Takac, the two core members of Goo Goo Dolls, whose first punk-edged album was released in 1987, deserve credit for surviving together as a band for as long as they have, considering they spent most of that time toiling in cult-level alt-rock obscurity. But a long-awaited taste of popularity, which first came in 1996 with their hit song ``Name,'' has sent the Goo Goos stumbling down a dismal road of cheesy, Top 40-oriented songwriting and rock-star posing that culminated at a sold-out Palace show that was apparently geared for young fans who've only just now heard of the band. Beginning with ``Dizzy,'' the first song on ``Dizzy Up the Girl,'' their new Warner Bros. album (and sixth overall), the band played to the screaming girls in the front as if this was finally the big time they've always dreamed of -- coming across under all the bright, colored lights more like Rick Springfield than the bands they used to emulate, such as the Replacements. As should be expected from such a veteran outfit, the playing throughout the tedious show was tight and concise, but the bland new material, and the condescending way in which it all was presented, left much to be desired. Did it really take more than five self-indulgent minutes of inane banter for the band members to introduce themselves to the audience? Rzeznik was especially offensive, as he spun pointless between-song yarns about ``French guys on Melrose who push pants in my face'' and a disgruntled fan (whom he called ``Mr. Indie-Punk-Rock Guy'') who supposedly wrote to him to say his new music stinks. The truth is, it does stink. Disposable numbers like current single ``Slide,'' 1995's ``Long Way Down'' and ``Iris,'' a smash song featured in ``City of Angels'' which Rzeznik performed solo under a dramatic spotlight, are middle-of-the-road, go-nowhere songs about a whole lot of nothing, indicative of a band more than happy to give easy-to-please listeners exactly what they want. Presented by Goldenvoice. Band: Johnny Rzeznik, Robby Takac, Mike Malinin, Nathan December, Dave Schulz. Reviewed Dec. 3, 1998. 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