From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #445 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 4 1998 Volume 07 : Number 445 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #444 [edoxtato@ssax.com] Re: Best of 1998 [Michael Wolfe ] Re: Shameless Self-Promotion [The Great Quail ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #444 [lj lindhurst ] Re: I think we're alone now [Eb ] Re: I think we're alone now [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] Re: I think we're alone now [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Best of 1998 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: I think we're alone now [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: Best of 1998 [amadain ] New Song at the QEH gig and Storefront screening ["Tony Blackman"] Re: Roofies [The Great Quail ] robyn dream that i had last night ["Capitalism Blows" ] Seam 'n' Come in DC 12/5/98 [Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Best of 1998 Capuchin explicated as follows: >On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Eb wrote: >> 6. Elliott Smith >> 64. Quasi (wow, hip choice!) >> 81. Spinanes > >Wow. maybe that Portland Scene thing might actually be breaking like >everyone predicted ten years ago. Not quite. Elliott Smith moved to New York and Rebecca Gates moved to Chicago. It looks like it's the ex-Portland scene that's breaking. My theory is that the beer's too good here to spend enough time sober to actually get any song-writing done. >Snickering madly, >J. -- who STILL used to have to get Janet Weiss to sign his expense >reports. Laugh-a while you can, monkey boy!! ;) - -Michael Wolfe np: The Paperboys, Molinos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 98 17:21:04 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Shameless Self-Promotion Shameless self-promotion, eh? Good only for today: http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/new.html Heh heh heh . . . By the way, I am still alive, believe it or not. My company is on the verge of a Real Big Deal, and I have had to put in an oodle of extra hours. This is not at all conductive to answering Feg mail, reflecting on Storefront Hitchcock (loved it!), whipping the Surreal Posse's horses until their eyes bleed, worshipping the Old Ones, or knitting socks for my minions of penguin warriors. But I am still alive, and Mark Gloster is still a big fat dork who likes to nibble the heads off of chickens. - --Quail PS: A U2 double AND a Rush triple live CD -- woo-hoo!!!! It's Christmas in Quail-land! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:25:12 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #444 Who is this Tiffany person, anyhow? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:35:35 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #444 >Who is this Tiffany person, anyhow? > Apparently, Eb is stalking her! As far as I can tell, he's got some kind of pink t-shirt or something, and he followed her into a hotel. Did you ever think that maybe TIFFANY sent the Bee King after you, Eb?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:37:17 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: I think we're alone now Terrence pondered: >Who is this Tiffany person, anyhow? A post-'60s musical act. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:56:17 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: I think we're alone now >Terrence pondered: >>Who is this Tiffany person, anyhow? > >A post-'60s musical act. > >Eb That's understating the matter. Tiffany was strictly a late-80's phenomenon. Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: I think we're alone now > >>Who is this Tiffany person, anyhow? > > > >A post-'60s musical act. > > > >Eb > > That's understating the matter. Tiffany was strictly a late-80's phenomenon. > That explains things. Back in '87 or so they asked me if I wanted Twisted Sister or The Beatles, and I chose The Beatles. Besides, I'm out of that 60s thing now. Now I'm listening to 1940s radio comedy and percussion jazz. (Note to Ed: I actually do like Charles Mingus. I've never been exposed to Parker, though, as far as I know of.) And I do have loads of post-60s stuff. I've got Rain Parade, Renaissance, Jon Anderson's solo albums, Stevie Wonder, The Soft Boys, The High Llamas, Blue Jays...the list goes on, man. Terrence Marks, who has a feeling Eb isn't going to be any more impressed with my new List of Bands than any of my old ones. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Best of 1998 On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Eb wrote: > Just because Elliott Smith made mainstream writers *aware* of the record > doesn't necessarily mean that they'd like it, much less rank it among the > best records of the year.... certainly true. hm. now that i can see the actual list, i would not call its creators mainstream at all, and i apologize for guessing from Eb's comment that Quasi was unusual among the selections in being somewhat obscure. they really like Dirty Three, don't they? anyway, the issue with Quasi is that people who write for the mainstream press often confuse stylistic obscurity with, i don't know, social obscurity. most of the new Quasi album (like Elliott Smith and unlike Sleater-Kinney) would not necessarily signal to a theoretical neutral listener that they could write it off as "not the kind of thing i usually hear". this is how it sounds in my ears, anyway. these are ears which hear more of Syd Barrett in the new Beck album than in any single disc of Robyn's, whatever that signifies. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:21:33 -0800 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: I think we're alone now Would you like some Parker on casette Terence? Since my life seems to be a bit crazy and always on the edge of change right now, I can make time for taping and I can also consider parting with the music collection I own. As a matter of fact, I may be parting with many of my possesions. Is this what they call a mid-life crisis? I'll keep my G3 laptop and a couple of photos and my Robyn and Nick and Tom Waits cds but right now everything else is for sale, from the house to the guitar to the Pathfinder to the first edition Eco and Pynchon ("The Letters of Wanda Tinasky"or "Entropy" [self published while he was at Cornell] Quail? How much would you pay???) To anyone who cares, I'm back from Belfast, considering a job in China (not Romania, I'm as shocked as you) and definately NOT in games anymore (unless that Lucas thang pans out...). Cheers, Carrie ps: How the hell is Randi? I hear nothing and am concerned. At 8.56 PM -0800 12/3/98, Terrence M Marks wrote: >Now I'm listening to 1940s radio comedy and percussion jazz. >(Note to Ed: I actually do like Charles Mingus. I've never been exposed >to Parker, though, as far as I know of.) "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 01:14:47 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Best of 1998 >this is how it sounds in my ears, anyway. these are ears which hear more >of Syd Barrett in the new Beck album than in any single disc of Robyn's, >whatever that signifies. Your ears are not alone in this. A few songs in particular, "Lazy Flies" is one. I also think many of the people who are calling it Robyn Hitchcock-esque (I've read this in a few places) are actually hearing Barrett/Dylan influence, but they may not have heard Barrett before so Robyn Hitchcock was the name that popped into their head as being the closest thing. "Tropicalia" is unlike anything any of them would do, of course :). Is that the single? I don't listen to the radio so I dunno, but I would have guessed it was. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:37:20 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: New Song at the QEH gig and Storefront screening I forgot to mention Robyn's brilliant new song that he played at the QEH gig and at the Oxford screening of the film. It's called something like "Sally was a legend" and I hadn't heard it before, nor do I recall hearing anything about it here (or haven't I been paying attention?) Robyn said it should make the new album that's just about complete. He also played 'Cheese Alarm' in Oxford which was as superb as usual. Robyn's tip..."if you plan to have a movie made of your concert performance, I can wholly recommend Jonathon and his team". Tony. P.S. Woj/Ed/Nigel .... tapes just about done, sorry for the delay! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:00:51 +0000 (GMT) From: toby Subject: RH + KR at SH in Cambridge last night I don't know if any other Fegs were at the showing of SH in Cambridge last night, but here's my report... I got there at 11:20pm to find a queue of about 100 people, which quite surprised me; on the other hand, when we got in the cinema was nowhere near full. I wandered down to the front, and to my extreme surprise bumped into Robyn + Kimberly chatting to a couple of other fans. Robyn said something like "do you want an autograph? You have that kind of look about you?" to which I said no, but asked if there was any chance of him playing Tonight. He said it was certainly possible, and that he remembered me requesting it a year ago at his last Cambridge gig (in fact, he said that he'd been carrying around the piece of paper that I'd handed him with the lyrics on for a whole year...). I got him to sign my ticket anyway before I sat down near the front. Robyn + Kimberly spent about 5 mins warming up, but I couldn't hear what they were playing. They then wandered over to the front of the cinema, whereupon Robyn announced that it was Kimberly's birthday, which got a big round of applause. Robyn asked Kimberly if he'd like to start with T or would feel more comfortable with QOE, before they launched into a nice version of QOE (both on acoustic guitars, as indeed they were for the other two songs) - lyrics pretty much as normal, except for "I wish I was stoned, I wish I was straight, She only wishes that you'd jump on her plate". Robyn then said something like "we're now going to play a song that this guy here requested when we played in Cambridge a year ago, and that I haven't played for about 18 years" before pointing straight at me. He said something about writing it in Dec 79, and muttered something about all these songs sounding slow now, before launching into a pretty great version of Tonight - all the lyrics were as Underwater Moonlight, except for something like "In the planes at the bottom of a lake". They finished with Beautiful Queen before the film started. I thought the film was excellent - I was completely gripped from start to finish - with a good selection of songs (though I still don't like Filthy Bird, and I'm not a great fan of Freeze either). It was also good to finally hear I Don't Remember Guildford (I still haven't tracked down the vinyl of SH, and I'm not going to get the CD), which was definitely a highlight. I didn't get the sense that he was playing that amazingly, though, and I also had a disconcerting desire to applaud after every song (as some people in the cinema did). All in all I thought it was a great evening, though I may well be biased on account of (i) Robyn playing Tonight for me, and (ii) My having realised just before I went to the cinema that I want to spend the rest of my life with my girlfriend... Finally, a couple of queries: i) How often has Robyn played Tonight over the years? I'm pretty sure I've got a version from 1987 (with Kimberly???) somewhere... ii) What are the URLs for the pages of setlists/songlists that everyone keeps mentioning? Finally, last night made me realise that after 6 months of listening to nothing but stuff like Einsturzende Neubauten, Mogwai and Aphex Twin made me realise that I miss trading Robyn tapes, so... I know I was meant to be on the tape tree, but that all went haywire when me email address changed, but if anyone want to trade with me I'm off home for Christmas in a couple of weeks and will have access to all my tapes. My Robyn collection isn't that stunning (though I do have loads of stuff by other artists) - probably the most interesting things I have are a Soft Boys gig from NY in 1980, a 1st-gen-from-DAT-master of the Cambridge Boat Race gig from 4/12/97 (a year ago today!), and 4 Tim Keegan/Homer gigs. So, if anyone wants to trade, email me... Apologies for the length of this post, Toby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 98 12:01:31 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Roofies Terrence scribbles, >That's the second-scariest website I've seen in a while. (The scariest >was "Cartoon chicks I wanna nail". Pepperming Patty was on the list. >*PEPPERMINT PATTY*. I don't think I need to say any more about that guy.) Yeah, I mean, we all know that Marcy is the hottie. Sheesh. - --Quail PS: As a former, um, Velma (of Scoobie Doo) stalker, I have to ask whether you, er, don 't have that URL around anywhere . . . ? Not that I'd visit the site, um, of course, eh. . . . +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:44:18 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: robyn dream that i had last night robyn was playing at some festival, sort of early-afternoonish. and all day long, i was participating in a softball tournament on the same grounds. so, i was sitting there in the dugout just kind of minding my own business, when it struck me that i'd left my recorder at home. it was getting into the afternoon, and i knew it was going to take me a while to get home and back because the route i would usually take was closed due to a "hostage situation," and on the alternate route i would be taking, you were only allowed to drive it in reverse. so i just up and left the softball team, and went searching for the office, found it, and there were a bunch of people lounging around in there. i asked, "what time will robyn hitchcock take the stage?" "about 4:30, but his show is sold out." (yeah, i guess you had to purchase tix separately for each act.) needless to say, i was horrified. thinking on my feet, i asked where the ticket-holders line was? they said there wasn't one, but that people were already getting into their seats. i went hurrying to the seating bowl to scalp a ticket, and happened to pass robyn walking in the other direction (wearing rather short hair and an earring.) "robyn! is there any way you can get me into the show? i didn't know you had to get tickets once you were already inside the festival!" he started fussing around in his pocket, and i told him how much i'd loved the great american music hall show. that it'd been a highlight of my year so far. he said thanks, and pulled a crumpled up piece of paper out of his pocket, then said: "we can use this asparagus pen and this impromptu clamp." the "asparagus pen" was just a nail, as far as i could tell. and the "impromptu clamp" was a small pineapple wedge. we didn't even actually use the asparagus pen. i just held it in my hand the whole time. but he held the paper up to a wall, and handed me the pineapple wedge, which had blue pool-cue chalk on the point. he had me write "robyn" from right-to-left in the middle of the paper, and "my wife and my dead life" around the perimeter. "my dead *life*?" i asked. "yeah, well, you know." i didn't really know, but i wasn't going to worry about it just then. as i was writing that out, i told him about how i had to run home and get my recorder, and that i might be a little late returning, so could he hold off on starting the show until i gave him the "signal" that i'd returned and was ready to go? he just kind of chuckled. then when i was finished writing that out, i said, "thanks! thanks A LOT! oh, and are you going to be playing the Two Bells tomorrow?" "what are you talking about? i only go there to have a few drinks once in a while." "no, you don't! you've played three 'secret' gigs there, none of which i knew about until a few days after they'd already taken place!" but i woke up before he could respond. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:48:29 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Seam 'n' Come in DC 12/5/98 Hey! Just wanted to see if anyone out there in Feg-land, especially the parts of it near Washington DC, was interested in going to see Seam and Come at the Black Cat this Saturday night. I'm not familiar with Seam, but their writeup in this week's City Paper (p. 65) makes them sound pretty interesting. ("Moody pop songs," eh? A little vague, but it sounds Feg-friendly to me!) And I'm a long-time fan of the opening band, Come, and you can just keep your dirty jokes to yourself. I'm still bitter about missing the Come/Helium/Sleater-Kinney show last spring, so I don't want to miss this one. That's Saturday Dec. 5, at the Black Cat, supposedly starting at 9:30, tickets $9. Come one, come all.... Come trivia: In an interview once the core members, Thalia Zedek and Chris Brokaw, reminisced about the trouble they had choosing a name. At one point they seriously considered calling themselves the Marshall Fucker Band. I almost died laughing when I read that. Call me easily amused.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #445 *******************************