From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #440 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 27 1998 Volume 07 : Number 440 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_P] Robyn on GLR [Gary Sedgwick ] Re: mum vs mummy [Michael R Godwin ] Robyn A-I;K-Z [Nigel.Jarman@frco.com] Newsday Sandy Denny Tribute [desmond in a tutu ] Poxy lexography [edoxtato@ssax.com] RE: Waltz to Leppo [Michael R Godwin ] Time signatures in Robyn's songs... [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: Give it to the Thoth Boys [Ben ] Robyn at the Sandy Denny show [Ben ] Re: Give it to the Thoth Boys ["Bret" ] Re: Vic Chesnutt [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: hamptons film festival [Gary Assassin ] mercury lounge setlist [desmond in a tutu ] Re: Vic Chesnutt [Eb ] lyrics: 'Fleshhead' [Bayard ] Re: Gotta Get This Hen! (out) [Bayard ] weenie-ism [griffith ] is that Rufus in the Gap ad? [Carole Reichstein ] Re: is that Rufus in the Gap ad? [Eb ] Thesort of reply you'd've been expecting from me [james.dignan@stonebow.o] Re: Vic Chesnutt ["Daniel Saunders" ] Storefront LP thoughts [hal brandt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:31:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) >>>>> "Michael" == Michael R Godwin writes: Michael> I have seen the spelling "sha'n't", but only in old, old Michael> books. If I could've remembered where, I'd've of shewn it Michael> to you. (-8 Check your Shaw. Old G B -- nudist, cyclist, photographer, sometime Hitler-sympathiser --- had very much his own idea about spelling and punctuation. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:43:56 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Robyn on GLR Don't know if any UK feg has got there before me, but Robyn is a guest on GLR this Saturday from 2 till 6. Mostly talking about / playing things from Storefront. I might record it... Gary - -------------------------------- For latest Fly news, info and samples, click on: http://www.flyonline.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:50:36 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: mum vs mummy On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, James Dignan wrote: > ah, but mum and mummy are as different as mom and mama! To expand: "Mum" is ordinary working class (as in "don't forget the fruit gums, Mum!") whereas "Mummy" is strictly upper-middle female usage. (But as far as I can make out it isn't top-drawer upper class: I just read Nancy Mitford's 'Love in a cold climate' and it's strictly 'mother' in that - and of course NM was the world authority on U and non-U). - - MRG "Kevin? Supper's ready." "Mum, I'm locked in!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:00:15 -0600 From: Nigel.Jarman@frco.com Subject: Robyn A-I;K-Z on Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:14:24 -0800 (PST) S Dwarf uttered: Nigel uttered: >>P.S. Now I have my Z song 'Zipper in My Spine' all I >>need is a J song to complete my A-Z. >what, pray tell is the "x"? I cheated. I used eXecutioner!!! Sorry, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:53:56 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Newsday Sandy Denny Tribute A Touching Tribute / The folk legend's music speaks for itself By Stephen Williams. STAFF WRITER LISTEN, LISTEN: The Music of Sandy Denny. Saturday night at the Arts at St. Ann's series, St. Ann's Church, Brooklyn. A touching, intelligent tribute to one of Britain's legendary folk singers. FOR THE SHORT TIME she was with us, Sandy Denny symbolized all that was pure and precise and harmonious about folk music. Denny, who so eloquently interpreted the English folk tradition as a soloist and as an integral part of Fairport Convention, was a mystery wrapped in a marvelous, smoky soprano, embellished by wispy blond hair, a come-hither gaze and a tragic coda. She died in 1978, after falling down a flight of stairs at a friend's house. She was 31 years old. Under the towering vaulted ceiling and the splendid stained glass of St. Ann's Church in Brooklyn Heights Saturday night, a terrific conglomeration of musicians, folk and otherwise, paid Denny a fitting and long-overdue tribute, capturing in nearly two dozen performances the art and atmosphere of Denny's superb songwriting. Denny, who was born in Wimbledon, was like so many of her contemporaries on both sides of the Pond in that she started singing in public in folk clubs (in London, in her case) in the '60s. Her solo careers bookended her success with Fairport, in which she played and wrote alongside Richard Thompson and recorded four albums. The music was mold-breaking: Finely crafted and stylized, it combined haunting, traditional material with edgy rock and roll rhythms. Denny went on to form a sequel to Fairport, called Fotheringay, with her husband-to-be, Trevor Lucas. During a hiatus in her career, she gave birth to her only child, Georgia. She returned to the stage in November, 1977, in a performance captured on an Island CD issued this year called "Gold Dust." Six months later she was dead. At St. Ann's, few words were wasted during the two-hour concert. Each singer came to the stage unintroduced, sang and left the stage. None of the songs was introduced. Peter Holsapple was apparently aiming to let the music speak for itself; it was the proper tack. Holsapple, former leader of the highly respected db's, constructed an appropriate set list, mixing a couple of obscure compositions with Denny's standards, and a vocalist guest list that included R.E.M's Mike Mills, Darius Rucker of Hootie and the Blowfish, Robyn Hitchcock, Susan McKeown and ex-Bangles Michael Steele and Vicki Peterson. McKeown nearly walked away from the rest with a stunning version of the traditional Fairport tune "Tam Lin," a driving, spiraling song punctuated by the steely notes of Holsapple's piano and the inspired backing of his band, the Continental Drifters. McKeown's transparent vocals ricocheted off the stone walls of the church; the effect was electric. On the other hand, Rucker couldn't get around the dirgelike "Blackwaterside." He seemed to swallow some of the notes, and what he didn't swallow, the acoustics did. I don't know how the songs were paired with the singers, but he could've made a better choice. R.E.M.'s Mills was reedy but convincing on Denny's powerful ballad, "It Suits Me Well," and Hitchcock contributed flavorful harmonica to the rousing "Mattie Groves." Steele soared with the compelling "North Star Grassman and the Raven," Susan Cowsill was suitably low-key on "At The End of The Day," Amanda Thorpe was elegantbut a bit distanton the encore, "Farewell, Farewell." It is among Sandy Denny's best songs and a bittersweet epilogue to the evening. Copyright 1998, Newsday Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:00:56 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Poxy lexography >>> Errm... "I'd of"? >> No, this is perfectly acceptable. Remember, we don't speak English, >>we speak American! >You know, I don't think it's acceptable even in American usage. I'm afraid Danielle is correct. The correct American form is "I'da", as in "Ida know what that Robyn Hitchcock puts in his tea, but I'da like to get some of that for Christmas. Too bad I'm just gonna get a Hickory Farms giftpack instead." >Danielle, who often thinks 'shan't' should have two apostrophes Now who's being picky? - -Doc n.p. Mix tape, current tune is a The Tragically Hip's "Ahead By A Century" (live) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:15:04 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Waltz to Leppo On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > Mind you, Capt. Beefheart didn't invent this. The chorus of Gershwin's > "Fascinating Rhythm" has a melody in 7/8 and a bassline in 4/4. I have a feeling that Gershwin chucks in a couple of notes' rest at the end of the melody line to tidy this up. Otherwise wouldn't the bass end up permanently out of synch? Playing triplets 'inside' 2/4 or 4/4 is fairly standard - it makes it sound as if the tune is going to switch to 6/8 or 12/8. It only sounds odd if you play 4/4 _against_ 3/4 with identical bar lengths, because then you've got two different crotchets, the one being 33% longer than the other. I think this is what is going on in the unlistenable 'Superman'. - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:34:02 -0500 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Time signatures in Robyn's songs... The drummer in my last band always got all goose-pimply about the "way-cool" time signature of "Asking Tree" off of the Soft Boys "Invisible Hits" album. I think it was in 9/8, I could be wrong though. S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:15:22 -0800 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Gotta Get This Hen! (out) In my recent frenzied panic over the deletion of Robyn's albums from the Rhino catalogue, I noticed that one I didn't have was also one of the rarest: Gotta Let This Hen Out! So is it worth getting? I've already got Give it to the Thoth Boys and Live Death, and a poor quality videotape called Gotta Let This Hen Out!, so should I spend the effort to hunt it down? I wouldn't mind a version of Listening to the Higsons on CD... While I'm here, I might as well give my thoughts on the Storefront Hitchcock LP, which I just purchased. It's kind of odd, because I already have multiple versions of all these songs, some in arrangements which sound almost exactly the same, so I look at it more in terms of what it adds to my collection. The unquestioned highlight for me was "Eerie Green Storm Lantern", which I think is just a masterpiece of mystery and sinister insinuations. Favourite line: "they gaze at you reproachfully, like a face in a frying pan." The introduction added quite a bit to it as well, talking about how it was Mr. Jarrold's thoughts about sex and death on a cold November night. It makes me think of J. Alfred Prufrock, Rhapsody on a Windy Night, Ballad of a Thin Man, H.P. Lovecraft, and everything good. I think it was Carol Reichstein who posted a really good description of it as part of her thoughts on Christmas Party. Any chance you still have that on file somewhere, Carol? Some of the other introductions were very illuminating as well, especially his explanation of the Yip Song. This is one song which *does* have a specific interpretation, and he was nice enough to tell it to us. Another one was Airscape. "My ghost will be pacing in the air fifty feet above the beach." Finally another good thing about the album is that I'm starting to appreciate "I don't remember guildford". That song never got me until now. I was a little disappointed with "Statue with a Walkman" - a great song, but I didn't like the spoken word bits in the middle as well as the single or the one live version - but overall the album is solid, and there's enough good stuff on it to make it worthwhile. Gotta love that gatefold sleeve! - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 09:59:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Give it to the Thoth Boys >In my recent frenzied panic over the deletion of Robyn's albums from the >Rhino catalogue, I noticed that one I didn't have was also one of the >rarest: Gotta Let This Hen Out! So is it worth getting? I've already got >Give it to the Thoth Boys ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is this available on CD? I'm one of the few on this list who isn't too fond of HenOut. I'm not a big fan of live albums in general (unless they've got a gatefold sleeve so I can clean my weed) but I think my disapointment stems mostly from the fact that there isn't much talking, there's too much Roger Jackson, and RH really didn't vary his sets much back then...having seen several shows and heard tapes of several more I was basically burnt on it by the time it was released. But I would definitely snag it if you don't have it. >Finally another good thing about the album is that I'm starting to >appreciate "I don't remember guildford". That song never got me until >now. That one rolls over the closing credits, doesn't it? Definitely the best tune of the bunch. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:10:51 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: Give it to the Thoth Boys I personally like that "Hen" has barely any chatter at all. When listening to a live performance more than once, the between song banter becomes tiresome, and I would rather just hear music. Of course I never understood why comedians released records, if you've heard the joke once why do you need to hear it again? I even know a lot of Deadheads complain that the live albums cut out the endless tuning the Dead would often do between songs... hello?!?! Anyways I would say get "Hen" ASAP as it is a fantastic performance (dare I say "it rawks?!?!"), you get to hear stuff like an electric "Wish I Was A Pretty Girl" and a bizzare treatment of "Only The Stones", and as usual Rhino did an excellent job with the packaging and sound. Russ Reynolds wrote: > >In my recent frenzied panic over the deletion of Robyn's albums from the > >Rhino catalogue, I noticed that one I didn't have was also one of the > >rarest: Gotta Let This Hen Out! So is it worth getting? I've already got > >Give it to the Thoth Boys > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > is this available on CD? > > I'm one of the few on this list who isn't too fond of HenOut. I'm not a big > fan of live albums in general (unless they've got a gatefold sleeve so I can > clean my weed) but I think my disapointment stems mostly from the fact that > there isn't much talking, there's too much Roger Jackson, and RH really > didn't vary his sets much back then...having seen several shows and heard > tapes of several more I was basically burnt on it by the time it was > released. But I would definitely snag it if you don't have it. > > >Finally another good thing about the album is that I'm starting to > >appreciate "I don't remember guildford". That song never got me until > >now. > > That one rolls over the closing credits, doesn't it? Definitely the best > tune of the bunch. > > -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:20:35 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Robyn at the Sandy Denny show I just read on the RT list that Robyn covered "Matty Groves" at the Sandy Denny tribute. If you want to hear Sandy's vocal it's on Fairpot Convention's "Liege and Lief" and there is a version with RT on vocals on the live album "House Full". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:13:27 -0600 From: "Bret" Subject: Re: Give it to the Thoth Boys I'm one of the few on this list who isn't too fond of HenOut. I'm not a big fan of live albums in general (unless they've got a gatefold sleeve so I can clean my weed) but I think my disapointment stems mostly from the fact that there isn't much talking................... STEMS? nice choice of words there...... :) - -b NP: Live Seeds - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:10:00 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Vic Chesnutt In a message dated 98-11-24 22:20:17 EST, you write: << I'm seeing Vic Chesnutt tonight, but I'm not much looking forward to it. The new album is a bit disappointing, and anyway, I wouldn't have made plans to go if I had known he would be solo (I was hoping for some accompanying Lambchop dudes). >> As Eb already knows, I heartily disagree with him about the new Vic Chesnutt album. I think it's great! Then again, I've never been a big Chesnutt fan in the past, so I enjoy the fact that it's a departure for him. If you're familiar with Lambchop at all, then you'll have a good idea of what the music sounds like. And, actually, the cadence of Vic's vocals is pretty similar to Kurt Wagner's. But Vic is a bit more crotchety and acidic than Kurt, which makes for a really nice coupling (these qualities in Vic, mixed with the pleasant, rich, Owen-Bradley-ish Lambchoppy music). I think Eb gave it a 13/20 (IIRC), but I'd be more inclined to give it 17/20. Definitely amongst my year's Top 10, and perhaps Top 5 (need to see how it settles a bit first). At the very least, it's definitely worth a listen! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:36:49 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: hamptons film festival I did not know about this, but if it were in the summer I would have been there, as we all know my summer stories, right lj? Steven Talkhouse is excellent, but quite further than even the Hamptons. another 45 minutes past West Hampton, at least. No more from me. I just got home. ------------------------------------ If you have a condom and sunscreen SPF 15 or greater, than it's safe to look at http://www.panix.com/~gsa/index.html On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, desmond in a tutu wrote: > fegs, > > last weekend, i received two notes from different folks who work for the > hamptons film festival. unbeknownst to me, "storefront hitchcock" was shown > twice at this festival which took place thsi past october. not only that, > but robyn was also present at both screenings where fielded questions from > the audience. afterwards, a gig was set up at the stephen talkhouse in > amagansett. > > did anyone know about this? i confess that i still have not read most of > the fegmail from october, but i scanned the messages for anything about > this and saw nothing. was anyone able to attend? > > woj > > n.p. xtc -- the big express > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:37:38 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: mercury lounge setlist sorry for the delay... main set: * cheese alarm * ? (about walking in new york, eating at the cafe figaro, maybe "flesh head"?) * nasa clapping * nietsche's way [enter deni] * arms of love * de chirico st. * sinister but happy * let's go thundering [exit deni] * no, i don't remember guilford [enter terry edwards] * rainy day woman #12 & 35 (dylan) * america * adoration of the city [enter deni] * listening to the higsons encore #1: * san francisco [enter mike mills (12-string)/michael stipe (music stand)] * electrolyte (r.e.m.) encore #2: * gene hackman * the yip! song [exeunt] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:09:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Vic Chesnutt MK: > As Eb already knows, I heartily disagree with him about the new Vic >Chesnutt album. I think it's great! Then again, I've never been a big >Chesnutt fan in the past, so I enjoy the fact that it's a departure for him. Hrm. >If you're familiar with Lambchop at all, then you'll have a good idea of what >the music sounds like. And, actually, the cadence of Vic's vocals is pretty >similar to Kurt Wagner's. But Vic is a bit more crotchety and acidic than >Kurt, which makes for a really nice coupling (these qualities in Vic, mixed >with the pleasant, rich, Owen-Bradley-ish Lambchoppy music). I think Eb gave >it a 13/20 (IIRC), but I'd be more inclined to give it 17/20. Definitely >amongst my year's Top 10, and perhaps Top 5 (need to see how it settles a bit >first). At the very least, it's definitely worth a listen! Last night's show was very entertaining, though I did definitely miss the Lambchop boys. The crowd was an irritant, however -- I haven't seen Vic live in a few years, and during the interim, he has gained a lot of new fans, and many of them are what I might call "Beamers." Ugh. You know the type -- those adoring, ever-smiling folks who laugh too loud at all the jokes, constantly exchange knowing smiles with their concertmates as they silently bask in the wonderfulness of themselves and the evening, call out "You're great/We love you, Vic!" between songs and -- most importantly -- yell requests during all the breaks, while grinning vacantly and looking around for validation. Eekoofarrgh. Those shows always give me the heebie-jeebies (the last one I vividly remember was the Blue Nile, but that was awhile ago so I'm probably forgetting a couple). Anyway, so the show turned into this erratically paced all-request night, where there was a two-minute break between every song while Vic sorted through requests and said "No, I won't do that," "I can't remember that one," "That one I can do," etc. Kinda frustrating, seeing him reduced to a jukebox. Still, the songs were great, and his phrasing always has a delightful inherent sense of comic timing (the most amusing thing about his performance was the way he tended to widen his eyes and nod a "uh-HUH" confirmation to punctuate the ends of lines -- I dunno, perhaps you had to be there to understand). Vic also had a keyboard onstage, which was somewhat of a surprise. It was interesting, watching him "play" it -- given his handicap, he had to use his right hand essentially as a "peg," just dropping his fist down on sparse selected notes. His left hand was a bit more agile, but not much. The same carries over to his guitar-playing, of course, where his right hand just strums woodenly while the left tentatively fingers. The downside of the extra instrument was that he sang from behind the keyboard the whole show, and the keyboard table had this big black drape in front, which meant you couldn't see his guitar fingerings unless you moved way to the side. Unfortunate. And it was hard enough to see him from the crowd anyway, because of course he sits rather than stands. Vic wore a big, silly wool cap that covered his ears...kinda like something Joe Pesci would wear in one of his "idiot" roles. I was wearing a red shirt, a heavy jacket, pants, socks and undergarments. And oh, as of late night, I may have someone to date. Perhaps. Not gonna namedrop.... Eb np: Jack Logan/Bulk, which falls squarely in the "appreciate, but not enjoy" category ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:01:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: lyrics: 'Fleshhead' another great new song. i think i like the current crop a bunch better than the ME/ME tunes. Note: the feg-bunch went and got queasy at cafe figaro the next night after the film! also, lj's bathroom door doesn't fit too well... _________________________________________________________________ hello, thank you for calling the old planet but we're all away as you know our civilization is based on gelatine from ancient greece to the new york city police new york's finest we have class and you have rays fleshhead yum yum yum fleshhead walk along the 4th st down to bleeker and mcdougal there is the cafe figaro where a meal is only 13 bucks away the bathroom door doesn't fit too well but we're not talking planes here, are we now? the old planet supplied the slaves and the masters too i knew you when your face was young and unstable fleshhead yum yum yum fleshhead new york so good they names it and new jersey-- is it really the tumour state? and if it is which is the state of sodomy and whatever's decomposing underneath our bedroom floor isn't here fleshhead yum yum yum fleshhead Flies were out again last night But I don't blame them it's the ones who are down on their knees while standing behind you with a whip, that ya got to watch out for on layfayette i saw a tv set with a baby's head on it flies around its eyes while slick white roots sucked the life out of the rich black earth you watch so much tv, fleshhead yum yum yum fleshhead Michele was feeling kind of queasy so we left the cafe figaro a dude was approaching on our side of the road it was richard butler [for the glossary: Etymology: French gilatine edible jelly, gelatin, from Italian gelatina, from gelato, past participle of gelare to freeze, from Latin] =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:34:39 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Gotta Get This Hen! (out) > called Gotta Let This Hen Out!, so should I spend the effort to hunt it > down? I wouldn't mind a version of Listening to the Higsons on CD... I think there is a studio version on the reissue of Invisible Hitchcock. It even features a water-filled wok, which is quite nice if you like that sort of thing. It's probably better than the nutty sax-and-disturbed- violin version i'm listening to right now. I like gotta let this hen out!. The cd, not the video. (; In fact, I would count it among my very favorite egyptians albums. but that's just me. no, really, i am the only one. =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:42:51 -0800 (PST) From: griffith Subject: weenie-ism just wondering... is there a cassette version of "Storefront"? If so, is it different? griffith I'm off to celebrate my 29th b-day tonight, and eat some turkey tomorrow...talk to fegs later.... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: is that Rufus in the Gap ad? Last night in bed, I saw a dark haired, mopey young man sitting at a piano and singing/droning some song about New Year's Eve. Odd. Then the "GAP" logo flashed on the screen. Heh! Is this Rufus Wainright? No, I haven't bought any of his records, but I heard him singing on NPR last week. Eb, can you confirm this hunch? :) Curiously, Carole (who kind of liked his droney, mopey way of singing) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:03:42 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: weenie-ism um, kind of. yes. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:40:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: is that Rufus in the Gap ad? >Last night in bed, I saw a dark haired, mopey young man sitting at a piano >and singing/droning some song about New Year's Eve. Odd. Then the "GAP" >logo flashed on the screen. Heh! Is this Rufus Wainwright? No, I haven't >bought any of his records, but I heard him singing on NPR last week. > >Eb, can you confirm this hunch? :) Yes, it's him. I've commented about this ad twice already.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:24:20 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Thesort of reply you'd've been expecting from me >Nathan insists that "word" is the best example, but I'm still a fan of >"verb". noun, adjectival, adverbially... >> > Errm... "I'd of"? > >> No, this is perfectly acceptable. Remember, we don't speak English, >we speak >> American! > >You know, I don't think it's acceptable even in American usage. not in either English or American usage. It is, however, widely used by first year psych students (sigh...) >Danielle, who often thinks 'shan't' should have two apostrophes heh... I'm pedant enough to want to spell placenames like AberYstwyth, InverCargill and DunEdin when they have a proper noun as part of their formation! >"Glass" is all in 4/4 except for the instrumental bridge which is in 7/4. >"Chinese Bones" is all in 4/4 isn't it? Oddly accented, maybe, but all in >4/4. >"Trilobite" is in off time. This is a time signature which is associated >with people like (Moris Tepper's ex-boss) Captain Beefheart, Robert Johnson, >and (yes) Syd. It's almost 4/4. Sometimes 3.9/4, sometimes 4.2/4. 'You'll have to go sideways' is 7/4, thus joining the like of Pink Floyd's "Money" and Peter gabriel's "Solsbury Hill", and the verse of the Bootles' "All you need is love". They also wandered all over the shop in the bridge of "Here comes the sun". Pete Shelley's "I generate a feeling" is in 13/4 or 13/8 or al;ternating 6/8 and 7/8 (someone more up on theory can probably tell which). The last song in 5/4 to hit the top ten was possibly as long ago as Jethro Tull's "Living in the Past", although Pentangle's "Light Flight" (alternating 7/4 and 5/4 with a chorus in 3/4) was around the same time. As for King Crimson... >Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? t'ain't be no such thing as 3/3. the denominators are always powers of 2. Other notable 3/4 rock songs include Norwegian Wood, James (np - Back in Judy's Jungle, some Eno 3/4) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:22:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Saunders" Subject: Re: Vic Chesnutt > If you're familiar with Lambchop at all, then you'll have a good idea of what > the music sounds like. And, actually, the cadence of Vic's vocals is pretty Lampchop, eh? I thought Shari Lewis was dead. - -- Daniel Saunders, looking forward to Lamp Chop's Special Chanukah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:04:30 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Storefront LP thoughts Daniel Saunders wrote: > I might as well give my thoughts on the Storefront > Hitchcock LP, which I just purchased. > The unquestioned highlight for me was > "Eerie Green Storm Lantern" I was so glad he included this one. For a while I thought Eerie was going to end up a lost gem ala Shadowcat or Surfer Ghost. > Another one was Airscape. "My ghost will be pacing in the air > fifty feet above the beach." I like the part where he talks about the ghosts costumes changing as they get farther away from the coast until finally you see Cro-magnon ghosts beating each other with clubs about a mile offshore. Then he adds, "I'm sure there will be more of those inland as well." > I was a little disappointed with "Statue with a Walkman" - a great song, > but I didn't like the spoken word bits in the middle as well as the > single or the one live version I disagree here. Statue is another highlight for me. The three elements that must be present on every one of the second "old geezer" raps are a) the judge b)listening to Don Henley albums digitally remastered on CD, and c)"that ol' Statue w/a Walkman readin' a book to hisself in the moonlight...yeah!" The rest is all adlib and on the SH LP, Robyn goes off and gives a bravura performance unequaled on any other tape I've heard to date. I loved it. /hal ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #440 *******************************