From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #439 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 25 1998 Volume 07 : Number 439 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Credit where credit is due. ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Credit where credit is due. [Bayard ] Re: mom [Christopher Donnell ] Re: m*u*m (he's English, remember? ;) [overbury@cn.ca] Christmas time again. [Patrick Welker ] Re: Christmas time again. [desmond in a tutu ] fwd: Christmas time again. [Russ Reynolds ] hamptons film festival [desmond in a tutu ] Re: hamptons film festival [lobstie@e-z.net] Re: m*u*m (he's English, remember? ;) [Capuchin ] Re: Let's do the numbers! [Bayard ] Re: Let's do the numbers! [Capuchin ] Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) [Ben ] RE: Waltz to Leppo ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] RE: Waltz to Leppo [Terrence M Marks ] Re: eddie and the post office [Capuchin ] Re: Waltz to Leppo ["JH3" ] Re: Waltz to Leppo [Eb ] Re: Waltz to Leppo [desmond in a tutu ] Re: hamptons film festival [VIV LYON ] Re: Waltz to Leppo [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Waltz to Leppo ["JH3" ] waltz [Russ Reynolds ] sign this---Shameless plug [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) [Danielle ] mum vs mummy [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, BJ, VD or STD) [Eb ] Re: EN [Zloduska ] "great is his faithfullness (sic)." --the marquee i saw on some church today ["Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Credit where credit is due. you're fuckin'-a right they were! (yours, not ours.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:17:28 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Credit where credit is due. To be precicer, here are the people who helped with lyrics under Jeme's masterful vision. aaron mandel eddie capuchin carole chris franz debora gary sedgewick mr. hal M R Godwin Nick Winkworth rob collingwood scary mary terrence M. marks and myself. It has indeed been a pleasure. If I am to be permitted, I may write something about the weekend, and perhaps reply to some back mail, soon. =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:59:22 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Re: mom - ---Aaron Mandel wrote: > "The narrator does not want to be called Reg. This is probably a reference > to Elton John." Well, he certainly doesn't want to be called Reg - because it's not his name. Not yet, anyway. (Maybe it's Elton John moving backwards in time.) == Christopher Donnell Hmmm.. you might as well check out my homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~qrys _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:26:10 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: m*u*m (he's English, remember? ;) Juventus/Johann/Giovanni/Jon/John said: > Concerning the James' subject line: > I don't know why, but I generally like English spellings over > American (the country of which I am a member) like grey instead of gray, > colour instead of color, fegmania instead of fegmayniah, etc. But I have > never liked "mummy." My mother surely isn't a rag-wrapped, dessicated, > myrrh-smeared corpse with her vital organs in canopic jars. Not that there's anything wrong with that.... You don't know it, but you're a Canadian at heart. We've got that Commonwealth colouring, but we're not raised by mummies, eh? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:54:50 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Welker Subject: Christmas time again. Does anyone know a current address to send Robyn a seasons greetings card? Pat. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:13:15 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Re: Christmas time again. also sprach Patrick Welker: > Does anyone know a current address to send Robyn a seasons greetings >card? i would try the address listed at the museum (which, incidentally, is the same address for the admin contact for the robynhitchcock.com domain): The Museum Of Robyn Hitchcock P.O.Box 14864 London W4-2GD UK +w n.p. wpkn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 07:36:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: Christmas time again. ======== Original Message ======== Does anyone know a current address to send Robyn a seasons greetings card? Pat. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== Sorry...I took the bastard off my list 'cause he never sends one to me. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:40:33 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: hamptons film festival fegs, last weekend, i received two notes from different folks who work for the hamptons film festival. unbeknownst to me, "storefront hitchcock" was shown twice at this festival which took place thsi past october. not only that, but robyn was also present at both screenings where fielded questions from the audience. afterwards, a gig was set up at the stephen talkhouse in amagansett. did anyone know about this? i confess that i still have not read most of the fegmail from october, but i scanned the messages for anything about this and saw nothing. was anyone able to attend? woj n.p. xtc -- the big express ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Re: hamptons film festival wow, how did all of us "usual feg watchdogs" miss this? the only thing i can think is that maybe we weren't meant to know. i mean, how many of us are at the hampton's weekly?? :) np: weeping tile (just in my head tho. i just found out they've released a new ep independently. if you can get me one i'll be your best friend) :) jbj On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, desmond in a tutu wrote: > fegs, > > last weekend, i received two notes from different folks who work for the > hamptons film festival. unbeknownst to me, "storefront hitchcock" was shown > twice at this festival which took place thsi past october. not only that, > but robyn was also present at both screenings where fielded questions from > the audience. afterwards, a gig was set up at the stephen talkhouse in > amagansett. > > did anyone know about this? i confess that i still have not read most of > the fegmail from october, but i scanned the messages for anything about > this and saw nothing. was anyone able to attend? > > woj > > n.p. xtc -- the big express > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:51:02 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: m*u*m (he's English, remember? ;) On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Jon Fetter wrote: > I don't know why, but I generally like English spellings over > American (the country of which I am a member) like grey instead of gray, > colour instead of color, fegmania instead of fegmayniah, etc. But I have > never liked "mummy." My mother surely isn't a rag-wrapped, dessicated, > myrrh-smeared corpse with her vital organs in canopic jars. Speak for yourself, Jonny. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Let's do the numbers! On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, JH3 wrote: > Recently I've been doing a little work on this Robynbase thing of Bayard's. JH is a but-kickin' programmer. The stuff he's put together makes entering robyn data seamless and slick. I'd like to put some screen shots on my site so you can see how cool this is. Anybody got a screen capture thingie? > Once Bayard is done entering setlists, he'll probably be posting a list of > gigs still in need of them. That would be a long list! I've entered maybe 50 or so lists, tops. And I understand Lobsterman Jones has his j cards in data format. IF anyone else has any setlists or j cards, please send 'em along! I can accept the following formats: emailed text web pages FAXes binaries snail mailed photocopies whatever The song names should be unabbreviated, but if the first word is an article it need not be included. like: man with the lightbulb head abandoned brain etc. One song on a line, no slashes semicolons or other characters, if possible. Other than that, practically all of the data is > in there now, so at some nebulous future time you'll be able to call up a > web page specifically for your favorite Robyn Hitchcock song, with a listing > of every discography item that song appears on, and every gig it's known to > have been performed at! You'll even be able to choose a city and get a > listing of every live appearance Robyn has ever made there! I'd of mentioned this, but I told some people at NewYorkFest and they looked at me like I was nuts. to me, fellow goobies! =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Let's do the numbers! On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Bayard wrote: > > Recently I've been doing a little work on this Robynbase thing of Bayard's. > JH is a but-kickin' programmer. The stuff he's put together makes > entering robyn data seamless and slick. I'd like to put some screen shots > on my site so you can see how cool this is. Anybody got a screen capture > thingie? You run Windows garbage, right? Try alt+printscreen to capture the active window or just printscreen to grab the whole screen. This puts the thing on the clipboard. Open Paint or whatever and paste away. > The song names should be unabbreviated, but if the first word is an > article it need not be included. like: > man with the lightbulb head > abandoned brain > etc. > One song on a line, no slashes semicolons or other characters, if > possible. You need some text processing tools. Learn Perl. :) > I'd of mentioned this, but I told some people at NewYorkFest and they > looked at me like I was nuts. Errm... "I'd of"? I once had an english teacher write that in her comments on a grammar exam of mine. I pointed it out and she got angry with me. I'm sure bayard is going to do the same. By the way, am I the only one that uses multiple contractions? I'll often say "I'd've" or "He'dn't've". Does that weird things too much? Oh... and speaking of verbing: We were trying to come up with words that are self-descriptive the other day. I think we started with "awkward" (which is exactly that). Nathan continued with "sesquipidalian" (also, rather that). Now, it's easy to come up with words that are entirely NOT self-descriptive. "Long" comes to mind, as does "abbreviated". So I mentioned "verb", which is both. In the original sense, it is a noun, which is not a verb. But as a verb (as in, to verb), it means to make a word that is not a verb into one... which is exactly what must be done in order to use it. So far that's my best example. I'd love to hear more. Nathan insists that "word" is the best example, but I'm still a fan of "verb". Anyone? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:11:35 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) > > I'd of mentioned this, but I told some people at NewYorkFest and they > > looked at me like I was nuts. > > Errm... "I'd of"? I once had an english teacher write that in her > comments on a grammar exam of mine. I pointed it out and she got angry > with me. I'm sure bayard is going to do the same. > No, this is perfectly acceptable. Remember, we don't speak English, we speak American! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:23:58 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Waltz to Leppo In praise of the classy lyric search page http://www.teleport.com/~capuchin/fegmaniax/search.cgi? . I know quality when I see it and this page stands out a mile. Used it to identify a mystery song on an old bootleg tape. Just typed in 'sirens' and out popped 'Glass'. Awesome. Thankyou Data-Fegs. I've realised some of Robyns songs have interesting time signatures. I'm thinking of Trilobyte, Chinese Bones, Glass. Can any guitar muso fit time signatures to these three? Robyn's biggest, loudest song with an odd time signature has to be Leppo and the Jooves. {start troll attempt} I can't think of any other rock song in 3/4 time {end troll attempt) . God Damn it you could Waltz to Leppo if you were fit enough. Is it worth adding a time signature column to the Access song table. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:39:45 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: Waltz to Leppo "Glass" is all in 4/4 except for the instrumental bridge which is in 7/4. "Chinese Bones" is all in 4/4 isn't it? Oddly accented, maybe, but all in 4/4. "Trilobite" is in off time. This is a time signature which is associated with people like (Moris Tepper's ex-boss) Captain Beefheart, Robert Johnson, and (yes) Syd. It's almost 4/4. Sometimes 3.9/4, sometimes 4.2/4. Dolph, muso ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: RE: Waltz to Leppo Dont' some Soft Boys songs have two time signatures at once (bass and vocals in 3/4, guitar and drums in 4/4 or suchlike)? Mind you, Capt. Beefheart didn't invent this. The chorus of Gershwin's "Fascinating Rhythm" has a melody in 7/8 and a bassline in 4/4. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: eddie and the post office > Eddie sig filed: > "Obscene, lewd, lascivious or filthy publications or writings, or mail > containing information on where, how or from whom such matter may be > obtained, and matter that is otherwise mailable but that has on its > wrapper or envelope any indecent, lewd lascivious or obscene writing or > printing and any mail containing any filthy, vile or indecent thing is > nonmailable (18 USC, 1461, 1463)." On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Carole Reichstein wrote: > Ha! So the post office finally refused to mail one of your creatively > decorated mail packages? For shame! Myself, I quite enjoyed the > cut-out cartoon of Charlie Brown say, "I'm gonna kick your motherf***ing > ass!" Oh, and Bill Gates' head pasted on Bob "Supermasochist" Flanagan's > body. The best envelope I ever received was from my friend Therese from college who mailed me a padded yellow envelope with the requisite magazine pastings all over the outside. Now, mostly it was the typical stuff. A picture of Mindy Cohn from The Facts of Life, a miniature snapshot of the cover of the soundtrack album for a film called Jailbait, numbers that play the theme to Popeye The Sailor Man when punched on a telephone, etc. However, the best was a picture of Julie Andrews from The Sound of Music. That shot of her on the hilltop with her arms outstretched... only some joke had gone in with a 3d rendering thingie and put a huge wooden cross behind her. Damn. I love that picture. I want a huge poster in my bedroom. Bored at work and going through the inbox. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:05:46 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Waltz to Leppo Matthew Knights writes: >Robyn's biggest, loudest song with an odd time signature has to be Leppo >and the Jooves. {start troll attempt} I can't think of any other rock song >in 3/4 time {end troll attempt) . God Damn it you could Waltz to Leppo if >you were fit enough. Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? I believe you're right, "Leppo" is in 3/4, but I don't think it's technically a waltz - a better example might be the beginning of "Superman" from Queen Elvis, which also gets my vote for weirdest Robyn time signature, what with that sort of segue thing from the 4/4 part back to 3/3. (That must've been pretty hard on Morris...) Let's see, other good examples of waltzes by pop musicians... How about "Army Dreamers" by Kate Bush or "Rebel Waltz" by the Clash? Those are nice. (That was yet another troll attempt, wasn't it? Sorry.) >Is it worth adding a time signature column to the >Access song table. Why not? There's a "Shirts" column in the gig table. Problem is, the person who makes the suggestion has to do the data entry. (Heh heh.) John "Muso-Abuso" Hedges III ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:14:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Waltz to Leppo >Matthew Knights writes: > >>Robyn's biggest, loudest song with an odd time signature has to be Leppo >>and the Jooves. {start troll attempt} I can't think of any other rock song >>in 3/4 time {end troll attempt) . God Damn it you could Waltz to Leppo if >>you were fit enough. > >Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? Ouch. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:12:52 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Re: Waltz to Leppo >>Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? > >Ouch. he says, rubbing the feeling back into his stepped-on left foot. +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:35:28 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: hamptons film festival - ---lobstie@e-z.net wrote: > i mean, how many of us are at the hampton's weekly?? :) Why don't you check out Gary's website? That should answer your question. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:41:08 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Waltz to Leppo In a message dated 98-11-24 18:04:16 EST, you write: << >Robyn's biggest, loudest song with an odd time signature has to be Leppo >and the Jooves. {start troll attempt} I can't think of any other rock song >in 3/4 time {end troll attempt) . God Damn it you could Waltz to Leppo if >you were fit enough. Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? >> Well, John, as you've guessed by now, no, a waltz isn't in 3/3 time; it is, in fact, in 3/4 time. ONE-two-three, ONE-two-three, ONE-two-three, ONE- two-three. 3 beats per measure, each beat represented by a quarter note. Um, that's correct, isn't it? It's been a while since I've thought about time signatures. I guess they've become more intuitive for me at this stage. - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:15:02 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Waltz to Leppo >>> Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? >>Ouch. >Well, John, as you've guessed by now, no, a waltz isn't in 3/3 time; it >is, in fact, in 3/4 time....Um, that's correct, isn't it? It's been a while... Yes, you're right, I was wrong. Sorry about that. I should always remember to look these things up first. I never liked that time signature anyway! John H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 16:38:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: waltz >Isn't a waltz actually 3/3? let's see...three beats to the measure, and a third note gets one beat? I don't remember ever seeing a "third note" on any sheet music. a waltz is traditionally 3/4. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:00:24 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: sign this---Shameless plug On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:06:38 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >But after all, what can one say? "I love your music." "What is that >one lyric all about, anyway?" "Could you sign this?" I just wish I'd >had a Harrison Ford poster. Has anybody ever done this? I actually DO have one (which I will keep rolled up in my desk), which I would like to see him sign, just for the reaction... Next number nine line gig, this saturday, Cafe Guru in Eastport Annapolis... -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:18:57 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) > > Errm... "I'd of"? > No, this is perfectly acceptable. Remember, we don't speak English, we speak > American! You know, I don't think it's acceptable even in American usage. Danielle, who often thinks 'shan't' should have two apostrophes _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:15:59 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: mum vs mummy >Concerning the James' subject line: > I don't know why, but I generally like English spellings over >American (the country of which I am a member) like grey instead of gray, >colour instead of color, fegmania instead of fegmayniah, etc. But I have >never liked "mummy." My mother surely isn't a rag-wrapped, dessicated, >myrrh-smeared corpse with her vital organs in canopic jars. >Jon (spelled "Juventus" in parts of coastal Norway) ah, but mum and mummy are as different as mom and mama! BTW - my favourite Americanism compared to its "English" equivalent is dove/dived, FWIW. James PS - Good luck next time you play against Inter Milan! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:16:54 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, BJ, VD or STD) >> > Errm... "I'd of"? > >You know, I don't think it's acceptable even in American usage. > >Danielle, who often thinks 'shan't' should have two apostrophes My pet peeve with contractions is folks who use (for instance) "he's" as a contraction for "he has." Nope, this just doesn't scan with me (though sometimes when transcribing an informal quote, it becomes necessary to use it rather than violate the rhythm of the speech). Things may be pretty slow on the list, until January. Few worthwhile releases left to come out (or discuss) this year, beyond perhaps that XTC/BBC box (got an eight-song sampler yesterday...sounds pretty good). December is always really slow for concerts too, though Buffalo Tom, Einsturzende Neubauten and Placebo are stopping in LA before Xmas. I checked out www.robynhitchcock.com for the first time today. Not bad, but it's glaringly short on substance for now. Needs more biography/articles/lyrics/album credits, and that type of thing. Some outside RH-related links wouldn't hurt either, though I'm sure we'll all spend a lot of time checking out that tomato site. More difficult to navigate than it needs to be, but then, I suppose that's Robyn's style. Oh, and nice job on the lyric search engine, Capujeme. I'm seeing Vic Chesnutt tonight, but I'm not much looking forward to it. The new album is a bit disappointing, and anyway, I wouldn't have made plans to go if I had known he would be solo (I was hoping for some accompanying Lambchop dudes). In other news, I just saw Rufus Wainwright's Gap commercial for the first time, moments ago. Yay! I was getting mighty sick of Johnny Mathis and the ever-dismal Everclear. Look out, naysayers -- Rufus will become a household word yet. Eb, #1 with a bullet on Robert Fripp's hit list ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:29:35 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: EN Eb sed- >December is always really slow for concerts too, though Buffalo Tom, >Einsturzende Neubauten and Placebo are stopping in LA before Xmas. Hey, I just got tickets to see EN tonight, and I'm curious: Are any Chicago-area fegs going to see them at the Metro in Chicago (12/19) or in Milwaukee (12/18) ??? Halber Feg, ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:25:23 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "great is his faithfullness (sic)." --the marquee i saw on some church today [editor's note: you will be receiving this post either zero, one, two, or three times. we've no idea which. thank you for your kind attention.] fucking FINALLY got LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL into my hands. (remind me to fucking never order anything from those assjackers again. "intergalactic garage" or something. fucking bunch of nitwits. i ordered the thing, what, two months in advance was it, mike? after it'd been out a few weeks, i wrote asking what was up, and they wrote back saying they'd sent it out. three weeks later, i wrote again asking them if they'd sent it by pack mule? and if they didn't want my money blah blah blah. five days after that, it shows up on my doorstep. fucking nitwits.) anyways, it's great! hal, did you say it has crummy sound? i don't agree with that. i think it sounds excellent. hessu's name isn't anywhere on there, and if you can believe robyn's liner notes, the sound guy was called "max." it's more less the first gig of the "driving aloud" tour. by which i mean, it's got that RESPECT and accompanying tour sound: the acoustic instruments played frenetically. (i guess you could call that the "violent femmes sound" if you wanted to.) three songs from RESPECT, three from PERSPEX, and four others. the tracklisting on the sleeve is incorrect, incidentally. all the songs are right, just got the order all fucked up. the backing vocals are *beautiful*! that's one thing (among many) i quite miss about the egyptians, really. and morris steals the show here. robyn takes a nice baritone on Personality Traits. i'm almost certain this is the first time i've heard the egyptians perform Satellite, and it's probably the highlight of the set (if only for the "newness" of it. but it's still dynamite. i wish they'd done more shit and more often off TRAINS back in the days...) only one, brief, story, for The Yip Song. but he did alter lyrics in most every song. my fave: "the wax on my module," instead of, "the wax on my body." the packaging is mighty fine, if the notes are a little sparse. top-notch, all the way 'round. excepting, as hal did mention, it clocks in at a measly 34 minutes. jeez, couldn't they have found some other live stuff from that era to tack on? or, even some of the other artists at that festival? still, minute-for-minute, it's probably the best thing i've heard this year. (save SMARTIE MINE, of course. chris, i assume you now recognize what a wise purchase you have made? by the way, the reviews of that show on the dan list were mixed. some guy even flew in from toronto only to be massively disappointed. but it did look like, near as i can make it, that he was trying to "not repeat himself," for which, i think, he deserves a lot of credit. also, it appears that the people that were right in the front couple rows liked it a lot more than anybody who was even a little ways back, said patrons apparently being up fuck creek. but everybody *did* seem to agree that the first set was excellent.) songs mentioning "pope:" (i thought there'd be more mentions of the old fucker. guess if we included all the stories, there would be a LOT more...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ August Hair Deep inside this ghostly haze-o Meet a pope you 20 Still amaze me -- Ahh [...] Surgery You'll never have the damn thing out Or meet the pope and kiss his neck And like him more than you expect [...] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sounds like you need to get yourself to the archives, young lady. dave, do you have the "most embarrassing robyn moments" on your site? you oughta. um, john. did you just say what it looks like you just said? did you *really* say that you...have...no...idea...why...anyone...would... actually...need...such...a...resource...? no offense man, but are you out of your motherfucking mind??????? by the way bayard, don't type up any setlists of shows that appear on my list. i'm working on it, and getting close to finishing. permitted? how does "required" sound? if i don't see a setlist but soon, i'm gonna fly out east and start bashing some fucking skulls in. permatree #2, bayard? recommended: noam chomsky, PROPAGANDA AND CONTROL OF THE PUBLIC MIND. brand fuckin' spankin', from ak press audio (and alternative tentacles.) 2 cd's, 112 minutes. it's not *just* about "thought control in democratic societies," it runs the damned gamut. this is probably the best chomsky speech (includes a q&a session) i've ever heard (and i guess i've heard upwards of 250 of them.) Obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy publications or writings, or mail containing information on where, how, or from whom such matter may be obtained, and matter that is otherwise mailable but that has on its wrapper or envelope any indecent, lewd, lascivious, or obscene writing or prinitng, and any mail containing any filthy, vile, or indecent thing is nonmailable (18 USC 1461, 1463). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:04:13 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Grammar (0% RH, RT, NMH, JLH, or BLT) > > > Errm... "I'd of"? > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Danielle wrote: > You know, I don't think it's acceptable even in American usage. Agreed (though what would I know, I'm English). It's spelt something like "I'd've" and is an abbreviation for "I would have". But when spoken it comes out sounding like "I'd of". > Danielle, who often thinks 'shan't' should have two apostrophes I have seen the spelling "sha'n't", but only in old, old books. If I could've remembered where, I'd've of shewn it to you. (-8 - - Mike G. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #439 *******************************