From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #433 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 19 1998 Volume 07 : Number 433 Today's Subjects: ----------------- film forum fun [Jeff Rosedale ] STOREFRONT ROLLING STONE [Ken Ostrander ] Grrrr.... [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #432 (3d6+2% RH content) [edoxtato@ssax.com] Re: Grrrr.... [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Robyn's covers/Interpretive Covers [Tom Clark ] A cheeping came across the List. . . . [The Great Quail ] Re: don't even begin to let the thought even ponder the notion of crossing your mind that I might be wrong about something cuz I'm not and I say so, so there. [] Re: don't even begin to let the thought even ponder the notion of crossing your mind that I might be wrong about something cuz I'm not and I say so, so there. [] Re: Grrrr..../Guilty Displeasures [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:46:23 -0500 From: Jeff Rosedale Subject: film forum fun I'm posting this in case I was the only feg there (not bloody likely...) Last night's sound bytes: Robyn looking shaggily well, appearing directly in the center of the room at the SOB cocktail party. He somehow looked fluorescent- purple trousers and green-with-black-diamond-pattern shirt. High point for me came as I went down below to get my and wife's coats and randomly found Robyn with co-conspirator Peter Buck (the latter on banjo) rehearsing Chinese Bones and SeaTac to a mesmerized half-dozen and admiring coat check attendant. There were lots of suspiciously tall and slim people at the party. The free Brooklyn IPA was especially appreciated. Deni was in attendance, as well as Rick Gershon and many important-looking others. Robyn was quite sociable and talked to lots of folks but I had no idea what to say to the man, so I let him be. Then it was around the corner to the theatre for the movie. Jonathan gave a polite and brief intro; Robyn and Peter got up and played a great Chinese Bones, and the show was on. I won't spoil Storefront- see it for yourselves. It was very well filmed and the use of odd components like microphone stands, minimalist props and street motion was a great backdrop for the unbridled self-expression. The shot selection and editing really preserved the intimacy of the performance. I only wish they had used the version of Glass Hotel that I saw filmed, with a slightly sheepishly smiling Robyn glowing orange alongside a three-pronged candelabra (sp.?). Afterwards I glazingly passed Lou Reed and Laurie Anderson to find Robyn and Peter outside playing SeaTac, Wild Mountain Thyme and a really nice Queen of Eyes in what felt like very cold streetcorner air (I had missed a song that they played before I was able to observe). The theatergoing crowd soaked in the extra songs and more or less dispersed, but not before Peter and Robyn posed for a photo with the dollar bill one of the spectators had tossed into Robyn's guitar case. Jonathan stayed for the whole street performance. Then the two musicians-- guitar and banjo in hands, respectively-- and a small entourage sauntered across the street, into the bar next door. Given the situation, I imagine that more music was played- but I did not witness it. Looking forward to the VHS release, and considering forcing certain friends to see it on the big screen at Film Forum before it vanishes. --Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:53:18 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: STOREFRONT ROLLING STONE from the DECEMBER 10 issue #801 HITCHCOCK LIVE A NEW FILM BY JONATHAN DEMME CAPTURES ROBYN HITCHCOCK PERFORMING ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK "STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK," Jonathan Demme's fifteen-song, eighty-two-minute film that documents a December 1996 street performance by English cult fave Robyn Hitchcock, is finally seeing limited release in conjunction with a soundtrack album of the same name. Arriving on the heels of Demme's much-celebrated movie BELOVED and staged more sedately than his well-received 1984 Talking Heads concert film, STOP MAKING SENSE, STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK was slated to premiere at Manhattan's Film Forum November 18th. Demme shot the film against the backdrop of New York's Fourteenth Street, with curious passersby supplying atmosphere. The director has commented that Hitchcock's cannily dense songs are "exceptionally visual. He makes movies in our minds with his lyrics." In the nearly two years since this concert was filmed, Hitchcock has stayed busy, writing a novel and recording an album JEWELS FOR SOPHIA, due next spring. Hitchcock says that JEWELS features "a lot of men standing on their hind legs playing guitar - my most upbeat record since GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT!," from 1985. Among the men involved are the Young Fresh Fellows, R.E.M.'S Peter Buck and Grant Lee Phillips of Grant Lee Buffalo. STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK, originally financed by the now-defunct Orion Pictures, became the property of MGM when it bought Orion. Given the studio's reluctance to promote the film, the marketing has been left to Demme's production company. "[MGM] unzipped their stomach to see what was there," says Hitchcock, "found STOREFRONT wiggling around and basically decided to throw it back in the water. I think they said, 'This doesn't have any commercial appeal' or something." Larry Gleason, MGM's president of worldwide distribution, says the company tested the commerical waters, but the film "was rejected by the Canne, Telluride and Sundance film festivals." He added, "If it had been directed by somebody else, it would have been on video six months ago." Hitchcock is philosophical about the film's uncertain theatrical fate: "It's a great document," he says. "Eventually it will find its place - which may be people saying on Saturday night, 'Hey, let's get a couple of beers and rent STOREFRONT." - -FRED SCHRUERS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:21:48 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Grrrr.... >>>>p.s. I bet I'm even grumpier than Eb! > >>>That's as may be, but I believe I hold the record for all out >crabbiness. > >>Can I have 'bloody irritated', please? > >Well, I'm somewhat miffed. Great. We're all annoyed. Maybe we should all get together for a beer or something, and get in a fight over something really trivial, like shoelaces. >Two words. "Pet Sounds". > >I just don't get it. Yup. The Beach Boys in general, actually, and Dylan too. And "Shoot Out the Lights." Nothing against any of this stuff, but it doesn't do anything for me. >But Lem's most wonderful works are the hilarious, playful short stories >contained in books like "The Cyberiad" and "The Star Diaries". Yes!! These are great books and you must go and buy them now! There's the bit where Trurl the robot conquers a country by shooting a cannonade of babies at it - or the bit where Ion Tichy, the hapless space explorer, goes through a series of time loops and ends up with a ship full of future and past versions of himself - and then there's the killer potatoes, the sado-masochistic robots who speak Chaucerian English, and oh so much more. I like "The Futurological Congress" a lot, too - very Phil Dickian, lots of "What is reality?" mindfucking. Though I confess that I can't tolerate Lem's other serious fiction... too ponderous for me. (The film of "Solaris" was the only movie I ever walked out of.) short attention span n. np: some fucking horrible rendition of "My Favorite Things" that the receptionist is playing on her CD-ROM drive. (She was playing Garth Brooks earlier... HELP ME.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:23:56 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #432 (3d6+2% RH content) Terry wrote: >Oh, and last night I went to see Meat Beat Manifesto. I hate techno >music, but I rather liked these dudes. Ohmigod. Terry sees a techno band, and he starts using words like "dudes". I can't wait until he starts to groove on Mingus and Parker. He'll start to shine with boptalk. Ida Know wrote: >Anybody else have this problem with some album that's always written up as a >classic album and which everyone else seems to love, but you just like it >fine? Any Richard Thompson album. I just don't get it. He plays beautifully, does beautiful arrangements, writes some interesting lyrics... and it's all a big :::shrug::: to me. It's all so slick that there's no interest. Nirvana. Me no get neither. I can lissen to it and it makes no differmints to me. Jane's Addiction, Black Flag, The Rollins Band. Likewise. Paul McCartney. The guy's been ripping himself off since '70. Ewic Cwapton. Him I don't get neither. He's always struck me as someone who can ape so many bluesmen, that his own voice never comes out. On the other side of the coin, I bought the new Midnight Oil album, and I really do like it. The passion that seemed to be missing in their last release has come back, and while it took a few spins for me to get into, I find I like it very much. Oddly, the singing on this disc is the thing I like the best. Their harmonies are very tight and not buried in the mix (which has some big driving guitars and drums). The new Catherine Wheel album (well, new-ish), "Adam And Eve". It's a pretty good rekkid. Rob & co. are doing some different stuff, with regard to production and instrumentation (dig the slide guitar in the first tune), and the songs are actually kind of fun, rather than the heavy ponderous stuff that's been in their other rekkids. Finally, I got a copy of "Storefront Hitchcock" - L.P. Version. This is a MUCH BETTER album than the CD version. The spoken word bits are better, and I like the inclusion of "Eerie Green Storm Lantern" and "Statue With A Walkman". Now, all I have to do is find someone who can burn this onto a CD for me... I still haven't listened to the Lennon boxed set yet. Look after yerselves... - -Ed, Doc, Anyone into the BBC2 comedy "Big Train"? Is it any good? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:42:52 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Grrrr.... On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Yup. The Beach Boys in general, actually, and Dylan too. And "Shoot Out > the Lights." Nothing against any of this stuff, but it doesn't do anything > for me. Beach Boys, yeah. Dylan, i thought i didn't get it until i listened to a whole album of him rather than the Dylan mixes my friend made. and the Beatles... i just tried the white album again and i still don't get it. you could convince me it was influential, but not that it hasn't been thoroughly overtaken by the people who came after it. > or the bit where Ion Tichy, the hapless space explorer, goes > through a series of time loops and ends up with a ship full of future and > past versions of himself is that the story where his dead uncle, in very close orbit around the space capsule, inexplicably starts chiming the hours? the Tichy books and The Cyberiad have a special place in my heart, but i can't get into the serious stuff either. Don DeLillo. i've only read one of his books (White Noise) and tried unsuccessfully to read another (Ratner's Star) but i do NOT see what all the fuss is about him. and for a supposed tour de force, Infinite Jest reveals a lot more holes in DFW's ability than arrows in his quiver -- at least in the first 200 pages. i don't give up on books easily, but these two just gave me no reason to continue. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:00:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Robyn's covers/Interpretive Covers On 11/19/98 7:43 AM, Stephen Buckalew wrote: >Robyn's covers have always struck me as very "un-interpretive." He tends >not to fiddle much with them. "Wind Cries Mary" was the cover of his that I >enjoy the most I think. Robyn seems to work best with his own material. >Maybe he spends all his wild imagination currency on his own stuff, and >playing a cover for him is like a nice quiet evening at home with a cup of >tea? Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier this morning. I was wondering why he chooses the covers he does, and I can only imagine that in most cases it's the lyrics. "Wind Cries Mary" and "Ghost In You", for example, are very Robyn-esque. Metaphysical and surreal, yet they make sense somehow. These are the ones he plays with the most emotion. I say "in most cases" because I think other covers are just homages to artists he really likes - Syd, Capt. Beefheart, Roxy Music, et al. Just my caffiene-induced .02, - -tc, who's been SO grumpy lately he almost yelled at Steve Jobs the other day. "Must stay in control..." "Must stay in control..." "Must stay in control..." "Must stay in control..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:24:43 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: A cheeping came across the List. . . . Michael, > Aw, c'mon Quail! A reference to Pynchon! That one was way >*too* easy. > You're getting sloppy ;-) Viv, >What was he supposed to do? Now I'm nervous... I, yr. humble narrator, did have, or should I say I laboriously prepared, an email that would have been a wonder to post, being in its nature a five-hundred-and-seventy-five page epic of quailspew written in the modus operandi of Gravity's Rainbow; and taking from Pynchon's style that long and winding road (with certain apologies to Beatle references, the Beatles being disbanded and perhaps not as topical as, say perhaps, Oasis) of tangled syntax, wherein every thread and topic of the last eight weeks was glorious intertwined (and in your mind, You Always Knew the Quail Would Do Something Like That, didn't you?) and mixed and related and dissected and explicated, yes, flowing with a panoply of marmets and phyla and bees and chrises and hedblades, a veritable cornucopia that would have spilled its golden contents across the monitors of all Fegdom, pixels dancing -- PIXELS 001-899: (Bossa Nova) Here we are, ha-ving a good TIME, Being pixelatted with - a - slice - of LIME Dancing on the screen at seventy-two Dee Pee Eye, A-and Ebby a-wondrin' if dat damn bird is HIGH PIXELS 900-1048: Hey - hey, wel-come a-board, It's the Quail! He won't be ig-nored Tappin' tappin' Alanis's dir-ty FEET Wazzat Capuchin? Gonna, hit, DELETE? . . . but let's leave off the Berkley Busby action, these are serious pixels, pixels enervated by secret currents of ones and zeroes and the karmic drive of electricity, a whirlwind of quailic thought cascading down from the broken vessels of Creation, ghosts of thought driven like Shelley's dead leaves across the universe (I spoze the Beatles can surface again, rilly, this being, as they say, a "hip" crowd and quite used to this sort of thing, call it a triumph of naturalism, post-modernism, or at least MacList-Lennonism) and animating each screen, each glowing Tube connected to the ghost in the machine, the great consensual hallucination dreaming itself into being each and every second, the cosmic OM humming its mantra of Now Now Now, each glowing eye a window into the Invisible Mansion of this great world-within-a-world, and all are, for an ephemeral instant -- or shall I say *would have been* for I never mailed the damn thing, having lost the 575 page file when a German-engineered marmet landed on my delete key (DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!) -- connected to the mind of the Overbird, Der Ubervoegel, Quaalmensch, the Great Quail -- but not now. Lost. As B/4, TGQ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:24:34 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: More Misc. Subjects than Eddie! I have been so very, very busy -- alas! I have wanted to respond to many fun things, but this last week has been Work Hell, a place I know many of you have frequented as well. So forgive me for responding to a bunch of stuff all at once. I. Things I Should Like but Don't Aaron writes, >Don DeLillo. i've only read one of his books (White Noise) and tried >unsuccessfully to read another (Ratner's Star) but i do NOT see what all >the fuss is about him. and for a supposed tour de force, Infinite Jest >reveals a lot more holes in DFW's ability than arrows in his quiver -- at >least in the first 200 pages. i don't give up on books easily, but these >two just gave me no reason to continue. I would like to second this dislike of DeLillo. I found "White Noise" to be alternatley boring, pretentious, shrill and unbelievable. I know this is a "postmodern classic," but I contend that Pynchon dealt with the same subjects (TV, family relationships, modern morality) in "Vineland" and simply blew DeLillo out of the water. Vineland is much funnier, sharper, and cleverer than "White Noise." (Not to mention that Pynchon writes circles around DeLillo.) Now, my "Things I Should Like But Don't Really" List includes: Woody Allen movies, "Howard's End," Jazz, Courtney Love, HUGE paintings of chocolate bunnies, "The Princess Bride," and Cy Twombley. II. Mozilla The Smiths: I love 'em! I just wanna give ol' Moz a real big hug, you know, scruff his hair a bit and say, "Cheer up, man, it's not all that bad!" And seriously, I think that they were the tightest 80's band around (right up there with the Egyptians; and I have said before I hear similarities) and Moz could pen some really wonderful songs. (There is A Light, Cemetary Gates, Frankly Mr. Shankly, etcetera etcetera ET-CET-ER-A). Man, nothing fits that sulky mood like a good Smiths disc! (And Michael, "Strangeways" is also my favorite!) III. FYI Rolling Stone: Here's an excerpt from the "Alanis Cover" RS, from the short Beck article on page 39: "Mutation's out of time quality - as if Beck and Robyn Hitchcock had decided to remake Pink Floyd's 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn' -- lends it a bizarre, otherworldly feel. . . ." Oooh! Beck, Robyn, and Syd -- *and* Alanis' dirty feet! Yaaay! IV. Eddie Tews Department I was in Blockbuster the other day, and on that board of upcoming releases, they had "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride!" I wonder what that's all about? Do I detect your influence, Eddie? Do you have shares of Blockbuster stock, or just some sort of weird powers? Did you threaten them with the marmet? (I hope it was the marmet.) V. <> VI. REM's "Up." So far, I like it in a lukewarmy way, but it has not yet really won me over -- I do agree partially with Eb. But seeing how I just *love* REM, I am willing to let it grow, to extrude upon my subconcious over repeated listenings. And hey, Stipe mentions "oblique strategies," which makes me chuckle happily. But I miss Bill Berry's eyebrow(s). - --Quail, listening to Teardrop Explodes while imagining Holger Czukay playing "Jehovakill" by the Dingle Penninsula Ogham Stone. PS: Um, Mike Runion? How many cool points did I score? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: More Misc. Subjects than Eddie! On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, The Great Quail wrote: > I was in Blockbuster the other day, and on that board of upcoming > releases, they had "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride!" I wonder what that's all > about? Do I detect your influence, Eddie? Do you have shares of > Blockbuster stock, or just some sort of weird powers? Did you threaten > them with the marmet? (I hope it was the marmet.) For God's sake, it's marmot! MarmOt! With an O! Sorry, but I could remain silent no longer. Now, ask me about Marmocet (tm).... - --Chris ps: Tom, go ahead and yell at Steve Jobs. By all accounts he's a peaceful, mellow sort. I'm sure he'd understand.... ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:29:10 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: don't even begin to let the thought even ponder the notion of crossing your mind that I might be wrong about something cuz I'm not and I say so, so there. - ---Capitalism Blows wrote: > > on the K single are identical.> > > the man on the k single is robyn's uncle. does this mean robyn's dad > and uncle were identical twins? > Weeelll. I suggest you fetch the pictures and see for yourself. i'm not talking resemblance here, I saying that it's abviously the same person. Now, for all we know, Robyn's dad could have been his uncle. Or Robyn (or whoever said it) could have been, for some unfathomable reason, lying. The picture that I'm talking about is one the back flap of Sink the Lusitania, as I think I mentioned. Am I being touchy, or what? > fun fact of the day! there are now more brand names than there are > species... Um, I think that was a joke in the Onion. Of course, it won't be a joke for much longer. Vivien touchee. (that's how I used to pronounce 'touche,' you know the word that everyone says when they pretend to fence.) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Grrrr..../Guilty Displeasures > ---Aaron Mandel wrote: > Beach Boys, yeah. Dylan, i thought i didn't get it until i listened to a> whole album of him rather than the Dylan mixes my friend made. and the> Beatles... i just tried the white album again and i still don't get it.> you could convince me it was influential, but not that it hasn't been> thoroughly overtaken by the people >who came after it. Hmmm. I *kinda* liked Dylan's early albums and stopped there. Then I heard the Albert Hall electric disc--I'm a fan of the early electric stuff now. Never did like Abbey Road or the White album overall, good individual cuts notwithstanding. Let It Be is a goodie, despite a maudlin tune or two. Some "They get it, I don't" artists. Sonic Youth--Daydream Nation, Sister, etc. I like some of their recent stuff, but for a long time they just seemed to noodle around with no sense of purpose. Elvis Costello (after Armed Forces). I gave up after King of America, as he seemed to be repeating himself. Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica. This gets praised by critics everywhere! See Sonic Youth. Doc at the Radar Station was more like it. > Infinite Jest> reveals a lot more holes in DFW's ability than arrows in his quiver -- at> least in the first 200 pages. i don't give up on books easily, but >these two just gave me no reason to continue. I prefer Wallace's shorter pieces. "A Supposedly Fun Thing..." has some LOL essays. His recent piece in Harper's (IIRC) "Bad Men" was sharper than a serpent's you-know-what. Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: don't even begin to let the thought even ponder the notion of crossing your mind that I might be wrong about something cuz I'm not and I say so, so there. I must ask, why does VIV always have these 10 lines or so of blank space at the beginning of every message? It must be bugging other people too. And don't tell me that it isn't. you're just too scared or embarrased to admit it. Oh, and now I fell honored that my name is in lowercase, along with woj and lj. I'll bet every one of you wants your name in lowercase too, but you can't! Sorry. ------------------------------------ If you have a condom and sunscreen SPF 15 or greater, than it's safe to look at http://www.panix.com/~gsa/index.html On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, VIV LYON wrote: > > > > > > ---Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > > > > Robyn > > on the K single are identical.> > > > > the man on the k single is robyn's uncle. does this mean robyn's dad > > and uncle were identical twins? > > > > Weeelll. I suggest you fetch the pictures and see for yourself. i'm > not talking resemblance here, I saying that it's abviously the same > person. Now, for all we know, Robyn's dad could have been his uncle. > Or Robyn (or whoever said it) could have been, for some unfathomable > reason, lying. The picture that I'm talking about is one the back flap > of Sink the Lusitania, as I think I mentioned. > > Am I being touchy, or what? > > > fun fact of the day! there are now more brand names than there are > > species... > > Um, I think that was a joke in the Onion. Of course, it won't be a > joke for much longer. > > Vivien > touchee. > (that's how I used to pronounce 'touche,' you know the word that > everyone says when they pretend to fence.) > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:09:12 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: don't even begin to let the thought even ponder the notion of crossing your mind that I might be wrong about something cuz I'm not and I say so, so there. Jet! writes: >I must ask, why does VIV always have these 10 lines or so of blank space >at the beginning of every message? It must be bugging other people too. >And don't tell me that it isn't. you're just too scared or embarrased to >admit it. now see aren't you going to be embarrassed when you MEET Viv (oh sorry, I mean, "viv") tomorrow night and she kicks your sorry ass???? your friend, - --Space Ambassadeur Du Poopay! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 14:20:31 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Grrrr..../Guilty Displeasures As a recent Elvis fan, let me take this before LJ, Eb, Natalie, Viv, etc., can respond: Fred, who calleth himself Ted, speaks: >Elvis Costello (after Armed Forces). I gave up after King of America, >as he seemed to be repeating himself. Repeating himself, eh? Then you probably gave up at the wrong time! Consider: "Almost Blue," Elvis does GREAT country songs that rip yer heart out; "Spike," Elvis writes in full banded 80s pop and does it phenomenly well; "The Juliet Letters," Elvis writes songs to the Brodsky Quartet and rips yer heart out again, possibly my favorite Elvis disc; "Painted from Memory," Elvis and Burt in 60 Lounge Pure Pop Tick Tock Drum mode, continues the tradition of ripping yer heart out (But I do have trouble with the Burt part). AND additionally there were several songs styled as Irish traditional music with the Cheiftains and/or Christy Moore, two or three Kurt Weill songs, piano only live songs with Nieve, "classical" songs w/ John Harle, jazzy interpretations with Bill Frisell, and the Elvis Does Polka Bootleg Collection. And of course, "What's the Story Morning Glory." I'm not suggesting that you may still "get it," but I am saying that maybe you should sample some of his more recent stuff. Of course, maybe you think that what he's repeating is, um, ripping yer heart out, in which case. . . . - --quail, in "gary-brand" lowercase +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:27:02 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: don't even begin... Gary Assassin writes: >I must ask, why does VIV always have these 10 lines or so of blank space >at the beginning of every message? It must be bugging other people too. >And don't tell me that it isn't. you're just too scared or embarrased to >admit it. I think what happens is that e-mail clients that are capable of composing both plain text and HTML-encoded messages using the same multi-line edit control can't always seem to correctly decide what constitutes a new paragraph; in HTML these are coded as

line

, whereas in plain text it's just a carraige-return/linefeed pair. So when you think you're entering a single new line, you're sometimes entering two, and when you think you're entering two, sometimes it's four, etc. At work I use Outlook Express, and what I usually do is save the message in the "Drafts" folder, then open it again and fix it before sending it. But I only do this for feg-messages, because I know Gary's out there, watching, waiting... And yes, obviously I have too much time on my hands. John H. Hedges PERSONAL DATA: Favorite Smiths Album: Meat is Murder Last Time I Listened to Meat Is Murder: Sometime before 1992 Do I Really Think Meat is, in fact, Murder: Yes Do I Eat Meat Anyway: Sometimes Do I Feel Bad About It: Occasionally Number of Indian Restaurants within 100 Miles of My House: 0 Why This is Relevant: Don't know, I just like to bellyache about it US Release Date of XTC's "Transistor Blast" Box Set: 11/24/98 Why You Should Buy "Transistor Blast": 'Cuz I say so ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #433 *******************************