From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #427 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, November 15 1998 Volume 07 : Number 427 Today's Subjects: ----------------- thanks & cost of storefront on vinyl? [Ken Sabatini ] Donovan (no RH) [Terrence M Marks ] Robyn is crusty [dlang ] Re: Robyn is crusty [tanter ] Re: Robyn is crusty ["Michael R. Runion" ] Resolution and revelation [VIV LYON ] Re: Robyn is crusty [Ross Overbury ] Re: Robyn is crusty [amadain ] "Beautiful" Storefront review [Tom Clark ] Re: Robyn is crusty ["Daniel Saunders" ] Re: Robyn is crusty [Zloduska ] Feg Twin Weirdness ["Karen Reichstein" ] Re: Robyn is crusty [Christy Cohen ] Delicious organ meat [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:45:26 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Sabatini Subject: thanks & cost of storefront on vinyl? eh o (that was my teletubbies impression), First off, thanks to Eb and the other person who identified gomez as the voice in those phillips commercials. I'd never had guessed this, as the only song I know by gomez has his voice pretty heavily processed/distorted. Secondly, someone mentioned the banjo playing hillbilly in the movie Deliverance. This is odd, as I just saw part of that movie on tv this past week, then the movie was referred to by at least 2 other people over the next few days (both in unlikely situations), and now it shows up here. I've only seen the tv version of this film, but does anyone know if the guy who was made to strip to his underwear and squeel like a pig by that backwoods fella was also sexually assaulted in the process? I wondered if it was more explicit in the unedited film. I'm asking because the other characters really seemed upset by what happened to this squeeler, but from what I could tell all he had to do was roll around a bit in the mud in his undies, while his friend had his neck belted to a tree and a shotgun in his face. Per Robyn--what is the typical price for the storefront hitchcock vinyl? merci, ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:28:05 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: thanks & cost of storefront on vinyl? On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Ken Sabatini wrote: > I've only seen the tv version of this film, but does anyone know if the guy > who was made to strip to his underwear and squeel like a pig by that > backwoods fella was also sexually assaulted in the process? um, what was it you were thinking, exactly, made him squeal like a (stuck) pig, anyhow? i think the answer to your question is "yes." - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:17:07 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: East Bay Boogaloo... Hey-- Was it just me or does someone else's calendar have a mark for Dan Bern in Berkeley on Nov. 20?? Was there some sort of activity planned?? I may be in the area on that day but am not sure. Details might help. Mr. Uber, was it you who mentioned it originally?? .chris (who is feeling daunted by moving, much less moving to high rent SF--he secretly hates the prospect of never having any free cash!! Ack!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 03:12:19 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Donovan (no RH) Does anyone here know the chords for Donovan's "lullaby of spring" or "magpie"? (I[d figure it out myself, but my guitar is missing two strings and out of tune, and my record player plays at 34 rpm, and it's just a real bother to work anything out until I get new ones.) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:02:35 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Robyn is crusty Its official folks, the teenager has spoken, I was driving my 13 year old daughter to her dance lessons and I happened to have the soft boys playing. Her response was ' do I have to listen to this crusty music " and of course my answer was -"Yes " She has in the past expressed mild interest in the songs with the sillier lyrics, being a little bit like me and liking that sort of thing, but now she has passed her verdict. So whats my point ?, well, those of you fegs with kids,( and I suppose most of you are too young to have kids in their teens ,, so this may be a small number ) how do they relate to Robyn ? Is he seen as an old fart, passe, cool or what ? The daughter actually does like early dylan as well as the usual shit like aqua, so I suppose shes not totally beyond help as yet, but do you think that there will be new generations of Fegs coming along , or are we all doomed to wither and age together on this list with no new blood from this present generation coming to join up. I mean whats the average age of folks at shows nowadays ? and also one last thing , who's the youngest feg on the list ? the real old crusty fart dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:58:21 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty At 09:02 PM 11/15/1998 +0930, dlang wrote: > >I mean whats the average age of folks at shows nowadays ? and also one last >thing , who's the youngest feg on the list ? well, he's not officially on the list but _our_ Robyn is 5 yrs, 4 months and 11 days and he likes his namesake. He prefers the upbeat stuff so he can dance to it (well, he jumps around the room, but he calls it dancing!!). Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:57:56 -0800 From: "Michael R. Runion" Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty dlang wrote: > So whats my point ?, well, those of you fegs with kids,( and I suppose most of > you are too young to have kids in their teens ,, so this may be a small number > ) how do they relate to Robyn ? Is he seen as an old fart, passe, cool or what ? Unfortunately, I think he's "old fart" now. Holly, my 15 year old stepdaughter, will listen if I've got him playing, but doesn't have much to say. Over the years, even his humorous stuff has probably worn thin to her. Bubby (Paul), my 12 year old stepson feels basically the same way. They're at the ages where they'd probably like "Balloon Man" (if they'd never been forced to listen to it before), but nothing else. Bubby really got into Hendrix last week after that one commercial that plays "Fire", so he was going through the CDs and I asked him to listen to other tracks like "Wind Cries Mary" and "May This Be Love", but he couldn't, saying they were just too slow and mellow. I tried to convince him to listen to the guitar work, but he just couldn't. Even when I bring home "new product" like Storefront, in the vain attempt to say "Hey, see, this guy is still vital...he's still putting out stuff...look, he's in a movie!", but the looks I get say "yeah, and when was the last time we heard him on the radio, how come none of my friends have ever heard of him, yeah, how come his movie isn't playing around here? Huh??" Ugh. I'm afraid the wheels just keep turning and the same old stuff like Zep and Hendrix and the Doors, etc. keeps rearing their (pick your adjective) heads, while the whole wealth of other things just gets tossed on the pile and only listened to by old farts like us. That's one reason I find Terrence's likes so refreshing. Weird, but refreshing. :) Ugh...now I'm depressed. Mike (who finally loaded Windows95 today so my little daughter Malina can play her new Blues Clues CD-ROM) n.p. My own stuff...I've been bitten by the bug and have been writing about a song a week. Anyone wanna hear some crusty stuff? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Resolution and revelation On the fourteenth day of the eleventh month in the year of Our Lord nineteen hundred and ninety eight, a great truth was revealed to Vivien Lyon. Voices from on high came in a visitation to her and made this proclamation: "Verily, ye shall journey to that Babylon of the East, there to meet the holy fegs, to join with them in communion and to witness the majesty of your very first Robyn Hitchcock concert, with the belatedness of which event God is very displeased and you'd better rectify it or receive judgement which will be unpleasing to you, yea, even as to make you upset and confused, with a feeling of regret. And it is better to regret the things you have done that the things you haven't done." And she heard them, and said, "Well, hell. I'd better go, then." So, she wrote then to those fegs with whom she had maintained a very brief and occult communication and requested of them this: Can someone who is familiar with New York tell me where I might accommodate myself in a cheap fashion? To be perfectly blunt, I have to been to New York exactly once, got very sick and remember nothing except that I agree with Robert Pirsig's assessment of it as 'the monster.' I'll probably take the train (a very long ride but this I do in remembrance of Him)on Thursday, arriving on Friday afternoon, and take the train back Sunday evening. I don't even know where the train station is. Look at me, as helpless as a kitten... Vivien up a tree and I couldn't be more excited. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 98 13:38:36 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty > I mean whats the average age of folks at shows nowadays ? and also one last > thing , who's the youngest feg on the list ? > the real old crusty fart I've been to exactly one Robyn show about 2 years ago, and his audience seemed to be mostly the college-age kids he's always attracted. I don't think he's ever attracted many teenagers or middle aged music lovers. My crusty old friends don't understand what I see in Robyn at all. Face it, if you like him at any age you're a bit unusual. - -- Ross Overbury -- the only feg in Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:40:48 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty >out stuff...look, he's in a movie!", but the looks I get say "yeah, and >when was the last time we heard him on the radio, how come none of my >friends have ever heard of him, yeah, how come his movie isn't playing >around here? Huh??" Ugh. Well, uh, that's kids for ya. Seriously. My SO's 17 year old nephew really basically likes what his friends saw on MTV. If he's not seeing it on MTV or hearing it on the radio, he isn't interested. This is pretty much what teenagers have always been like. When I was 17 I liked basically Bob Dylan, Beatles, the VU, Roxy Music, and Bowie but I was a pretty different kind of 17. A complete weirdo, actually. It's always going to be your atypical teenager that wants to seek out anything that isn't familiar and big with their buddies. Especially if it's........OLD! >adjective) heads, while the whole wealth of other things just gets >tossed on the pile and only listened to by old farts like us. Funny. At "Velvet Goldmine" last night I'd say the vast majority of the audience was people around my age (mid-late twenties), NOT older folks who would have been teenagers at the time. And they were a very enthused audience- I can't remember the last time I've been to a movie when people actually stood up and clapped at the end. Of course, 27 is probably still pretty close to old fart to a 15 year old :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:40:41 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: "Beautiful" Storefront review Gina Arnold does Robyn justice in this weeks San Jose Metro: http://www.metroactive.com/metro/robynhitchcock-9845.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:49:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Saunders" Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty > I mean whats the average age of folks at shows nowadays ? and also one last > thing , who's the youngest feg on the list ? I'm only a lurker, but I'm 18 and I've been reading the list for more than two years. The scary thing is that means my musical tastes have been molded almost entirely by the discussions on the list. Right now my CD player is holding the two CDs of Dan Bern's Smartie Mine and Beck's One Foot in the Grave, and beside the player there are albums by Neutral Milk Hotel, Julian Cope, Throwing Muses, and (this is really scary) Submarine Bells by the Chills. In fact the only album I bought recently that TV told me to buy was v2.0 by Garbage, which I immediately discarded once I saw they were on Eb's "currently dismissing" list (just kidding). I'd have to say I'm fairly atypical, but I noticed this is about the age when all my friends are starting to follow their own paths when it comes to music. I've got one friend who's getting into punk in a big way, one who's listening to electronic music and producing his own, and many others who are just investigating different avenues. And we're all discovering David Bowie. I've gotten at least two of my friends seriously interested in Our Man Robyn, but they are all aware or his existence now. :) To change the subject: the Canadian equivalent of MTV, MuchMusic is having an all-request weekend. Why then are they simply playing the same old crap which was in heavy rotation the whole rest of the week?! I'd call up and request something interesting, but I can't be bothered to sit around until it comes up. Daniel Saunders "Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:24:43 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty The Question was posed by dlang: >So whats my point ?, well, those of you fegs with kids,( and I suppose most of >you are too young to have kids in their teens ,, so this may be a small number >) how do they relate to Robyn ? Is he seen as an old fart, passe, cool or what ? Well, speaking as a 'teenager', I 'd have to say that Robyn is definitely KEWL, d00d! Heh. I just wish my parents were as 'kewl' as you guys are, and listened to RH. Yes, my father is the one who turned me onto Pink Floyd, Neil Young, and Janis Joplin, and my jesus-freak aunt did so with King Crimson, but they are still not hip enough for me in this respect. Well, my dad appreciates music like I do, and likes some of what I do, but my mother cannot be saved, she likes shit like Julio Iglesias. But I digress... And then Michael said- >Unfortunately, I think he's "old fart" now. Holly, my 15 year old >stepdaughter, will listen if I've got him playing, but doesn't have much >to say. Over the years, even his humorous stuff has probably worn thin >to her. Bubby (Paul), my 12 year old stepson feels basically the same >way. They're at the ages where they'd probably like "Balloon Man" (if >they'd never been forced to listen to it before), but nothing else. >Bubby really got into Hendrix last week after that one commercial that >plays "Fire", so he was going through the CDs and I asked him to listen >to other tracks like "Wind Cries Mary" and "May This Be Love", but he >couldn't, saying they were just too slow and mellow. I tried to >convince him to listen to the guitar work, but he just couldn't. Damn, "May This Be Love" was the first Hendrix song I ever heard, that that's what made me fall in love with his music. "Wind Cries Mary" is another favorite. Well, I wasn't very far from 15 when I was introduced to Robyn HItchcock's music, and I immediately took to it. The first song I heard was "Autumn Sea". I thought, "I *must* hear more. I love this guy." And am I weird for not initially thinking that his music was very weird? then Susan spake- >When I was 17 I liked basically Bob Dylan, Beatles, the VU, Roxy Music, and >Bowie but I was a pretty different kind of 17. A complete weirdo, actually. >It's always going to be your atypical teenager that wants to seek out >anything that isn't familiar and big with their buddies. Especially if >it's........OLD! That's how I was/am. I had slightly different tastes in the classic music department than that, but all the old music still hold magic for me, and that is what I sought out. But it wasn't until around that age, 16 or so, when I discovered Sonic Youth that I never saw music the same again, and that opened my eyes to so many other good bands, and actual *quality* music. Once I started being attracted to all the old music, along with newer and more unconventional bands, all of the shiet they play on the radio and Mtv was completely ruined for me. And so, fortunately, I found the internet, which is still the only place that I can find numerous others who share very similar tastes in music with me, other than the old farts at the record store. ;-) ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:27:06 PST From: "Karen Reichstein" Subject: Feg Twin Weirdness So Carole and I just found out: On the exact same night, in different cities, both Carole and I purchased the same Richard Thompson album (You? Me? Us?). Both of us were in the presence of fellow Feg list members (me: Chris Franz, Carole: Michael Keefe)And in both circumstances, the vinyl Storefront Hitchcock album was also purchased in the same transaction. (okay, so Chris bought this copy) Coincidence or psychic oddity? karen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:43:20 -0500 From: Christy Cohen Subject: Re: Robyn is crusty "Michael R. Runion" wrote: > Unfortunately, I think he's "old fart" now. Holly, my 15 year old > stepdaughter, will listen if I've got him playing, but doesn't have much > to say. Over the years, even his humorous stuff has probably worn thin > to her. Strangely enough, I was fifteen, getting ready to go on sixteen when I discovered Robyn. It seemed logical at the time. I was a teenager, and the way I remember it, the whole point was to be as weird as possible. What better way than to start listening to the Soft Boys? I was sixteen and standing in a record store when I first heard Queen Elvis, and this man in a business suit, probably in his late forties, showed me the tape and urged me to buy it. So I don't think age really has much to do with whether you like Robyn. I tend to blame it on inner oddness ;) It's been over six years, and I wish I could find that man again. "See what you started???" Christy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:43:21 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: Delicious organ meat I just got back from a national midwifery conference in northern Michigan. Among other things, I now have a recipe for powdered, dried placenta, which apparently in Chinese medicine has powerful tonifying and nourishing effects. Write to me privately for further details. I had a dream about the Quail while I was at the conference, but I don't remember what happened in it. One of the people I was riding with mistook "Queen Elvis" for the Verve when I played it in the car. And when I returned home, my kitchen had been overrun with tiny ants... Is the Insect Nation once more wrecking its revenge on an innocent Feg? Mr. Lang, surely you must have a theory. n., who could do without any more mention of babies for a week or ten ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #427 *******************************