From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #425 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 13 1998 Volume 07 : Number 425 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Beck v. Spirit [Bayard ] Storefront Pooka [lobstie@e-z.net] Re: You are no longer under covert surveillance [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Beck v. JLH [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Accidental gifts... [Aaron Mandel ] Robyn in Launch [bhuddell@gs.net] Re: Robyn in Launch [lobstie@e-z.net] you asked for it....:-) [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: wafflehead [VIV LYON ] Re: Robyn vs. Elvis Costello [VIV LYON ] The man who invented the saxophone [VIV LYON ] Swiss Family Hitchcock ["Matthew Knights" ] AllStar news [Eb ] Re: AllStar news ["Chris!" ] what kind of a name is newt anyway? [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (J] Re: Fuel cells and a little Robyn dilemma [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_P] The Orchard (0 RH) [Gary Sedgwick ] secret code that was Allstar ["Chris!" ] Re: secret code that was Allstar [Eric Loehr ] Re: secret code that was Allstar [Chris Gillis ] Re: secret code that was Allstar [Capuchin ] NYC next weekend. [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:57:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Beck v. Spirit Ebintom: > >Anyone else dumbfounded at how "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" is > >being promoted almost *purely* as a star vehicle for JL Hewitt's breasts? > > Frankly, I don't have a problem with that. If this one is anything like > the first, she'd better be naked and covered in chick peas to get my $8. that's quite a thread wrapup from the past few months... tomatoes, Hummers, chick's pee, stripping, and now loves-ta-hew-it's skin! i washed my hands, =b (soon to be walking back up 6th av) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:17:54 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Storefront Pooka found this page today while searching for those "Where Are They Now?"-type bands I still like: http://www.mygale.org/05/grm/pooka/ I guess the middle pic is the one that reminded me of some of the storefront pics I've seen lately. Does anyone like Pooka besides me and Mitchell Dickerman? Hey, and what ever happened to Weeping Tile? The fact that their last album didn't see US distribution was a crying shame. Sarah Harmer has one' of the most incredible voices I've ever heard. - -jbj, whose mouth is still on fire from last nights feggathering at Thai Orchid restaurant. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:23:36 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: You are no longer under covert surveillance In a message dated 98-11-12 00:53:18 EST, you write: << > The Man Who Iinvented Himself yanks me forcibly out of my depression There were saxophones on the original mix of this song, but when they released the album on Rhino, a different mix was used. As a result, I never traded in my first copy. I still don't know what that's all about. >> Really?! Wha tha . . ? Boy, I guess I've never listened to the Rhino version. I think "Fegmania!" is the only CD I own as a Rhino reissue (well, and "You and Oblivion," but there's not much to be done about that, is there?). Hmph. No saxophones. That's insane. - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:34:24 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Beck v. JLH In a message dated 98-11-12 04:27:04 EST, you write: << The new Beck is good. Not great. But I certainly like it better than anything by Spirit (and I do own four Spirit albums, including three of the reissues). >> No comment on Spirit albums, but I'm listening to the new Beck right now for the first time and am actually enjoying it (unlike all the other Beck albums). Well, track 6 "Tropicalia" is really stupid, but the rest is cool. << Anyone else dumbfounded at how "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" is being promoted almost *purely* as a star vehicle for JL Hewitt's breasts? >> I didn't even know she had breasts. I can't imagine what the interest in her is on any level. - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:38:08 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Accidental gifts... On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 edoxtato@ssax.com wrote: > I still love his stuff, but it's really fucking hard for me, y'know? > Even hearing Lennon's stuff on the radio-- I enjoy it, and then I feel > quite sad. i kind of know what you mean. listening to personally revealing music by people who've died -- especially if their career had something to DO with them dying -- gives me this creepy feeling, like "well, it's all over now. we can look back and say whether he took the right drugs, pined for the right girls... we can say what worked out in the end and what turned out to be futile because once you die, you can't put anything right anymore." i know it's not really reasonable; just trying to put that mometary burst of psychological cold air into words. this went on for a week last month when i heard that Jon Easley had overdosed... he wrote some really good music, but nothing with that sense of self-containment and hence resolution that truly brilliant songs have. he might have done, though, if he'd had longer... a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:31:58 -0600 From: bhuddell@gs.net Subject: Robyn in Launch I've missed a few digests so my apologies if this is old news. There's a Storefront feature in the December *Launch* CD- ROM magazine (Shirley Manson's mouth on the cover). Some half-decent interview clips with Demme and Robyn, AND a full- length performance of Cheese Alarm (that last is not mentioned anywhere on the packaging; a nice surprise). I got a sensation not entirely unlike seasickness from watching a tiny little Robyn twitching on my computer monitor. Highly recommended. - --brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:54:58 -0800 (PST) From: lobstie@e-z.net Subject: Re: Robyn in Launch WOW! Brian, thanks so much for this tip. I NEVER would've known about this if not for you. On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 bhuddell@gs.net wrote: > I've missed a few digests so my apologies if this is old news. > There's a Storefront feature in the December *Launch* CD- > ROM magazine (Shirley Manson's mouth on the cover). Some > half-decent interview clips with Demme and Robyn, AND a full- > length performance of Cheese Alarm (that last is not mentioned > anywhere on the packaging; a nice surprise). I got a sensation > not entirely unlike seasickness from watching a tiny little Robyn > twitching on my computer monitor. Highly recommended. > > --brian > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:52:54 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: you asked for it....:-) EST >From: Ross Overbury >Subject: Re: Down w/ SUV's! > >luther sed: >[stuff about fuel cells snipped] >> As I work for an enviro, Ican tell you that such technology is just >> now on the way... >> ...but Americans seem to prefer SUV's anyway, like the gas >> will last foreve.r... >> > > > >Basically I prefer that idea to the continued use of fossil fuels, but >doesn't most American "hydro" power come from coal and nuke plants? Depends on definitions.... > >And "real" hydro, while clean at the receiving end, is just the lesser of >evils. Damming releases mercury into the floodplain and methane into >the air, and tends (here in Quebec) to displace a whole lot of Indians. > Well, Mr. Overbury, there are many different kinds of renewable energy. Didn't know you were in for a lesson, huh? :-) ("hydro" is a very small part of the spectrum). There is biomass (they can get fuel off methane rising from decomposing wastes and garbage!), fuel cells, solar cells (Clinton, when he wasn't busy getting his carrot waxed, pushed for a million roof-top solar cell intitiative, which makes sense--- even though the Solar Industry Association (SEIA) is basically financially fucked. Want more on renewable energy? www.ase.org In other news, of Raymond songs to start the movie with, WHY "yip"? "You and Oblivion" is a MUCH better song, IMO. I just wish he did it acoustic, too.. -luther ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:43:27 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: wafflehead - ---Eb wrote: > >My ears > >prick up, however, when he plays Wafflehead while we make waffles. I > >suddenly realize that he wants to have sex with me. I also suddenly > >think of him in a sexual context for the first time. > > Well, that's a new wrinkle to appreciating "Wafflehead".... > I have to say, I am mortally offended that so many people on this list seem to dislike, nay, revile this song. I find it unbearably sexy and absurd at the same time, just the sexual act. > >First, throughout the past year I have been deep in the throes of an Elvis > >Costello obsession. > > Way to get on my good side. ;) > I am honored. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:24:39 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: Robyn vs. Elvis Costello - ---Zelda Pinwheel wrote: > It seems like several folks on the list hold Robyn and Elvis in similar regard. Not similar, except in intensity. Elvis' songs seem like lovely artifacts that one can appreciate (read-fetishize) to no end but that never seem to change. Robyn's songs are more organic, less perfect but alive and pulsating. I'm sort of expecting to be castigated for this remark, but I swear I don't mean it as denigrating to either guy. > Here's my question: if Elvis and Robyn were both playing in "Yourtown" on > the same night who'd you go see? Right now, Robyn because I've never seen him, and frankly I'm a little smitten with him in more than just a musical sense. Now if it was EC and A, and RH alone, then probably the former. > P.S.-In Robyn's bio at Hitchcock.com, he makes a few cute parallels between > his career and Elvis Costello's. I especially like his attribution of Underwater Moonlight to Elvis. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:36:12 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: The man who invented the saxophone - ---MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > There were saxophones on the original mix of this song, but when they > released the album on Rhino, a different mix was used. > > Really?! Wha tha . . ? Boy, I guess I've never listened to the Rhino > version. Hmph. No saxophones. That's insane. I'm beginning to suspect that I am again unable to post (this keeps happening) but I'm answering anyway. I have never heard the saxamophone version. I have the Rhino reissue. Saxophones. That's crazy talk. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:22:29 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Swiss Family Hitchcock Robyn Siempre Sera! I've resubscribed say what a joy it was to see Storefront Hitchcock at the NFT this week. I lcan't wait to see it again. There must be a way to describe the eerie feeling you have when reality and illusion collide. This is how I felt as I caught the Guildford train home with "I don't remember Guildford" ringing in my ears. I refute what the 'disapointed' fellow poster said about the screening of the film. To me Robyn's 'wise words' arrived spontaneously just like a gig and were not seem forced. Also, to me the theatre seemed 80% full not two thirds full. I was told there were only five tickets left when I bought mine. This means at least 296 out of the 300 tickets were sold or allocated. My guess is that any empty seats were left vacant by people who had been given free tickets and then not turned up ie Media Types/PR Types/hangers on. High points: A rare sighting of Swiss Family Hitchcock (Robyn, mother and daughter) disappearing up the NFT spiral staircase as a family group. Looking at the audience gathered outside and realising - these are my kind of people. "I don't remember Guildford" - my first hearing of this excellent song. Low points: Failed to persuade friends and part time Robyn fans KlarkeHead and No.1 to join me at the NFT. I came alone. Failed to seek out an old school friend I spotted in the audience from the 70's. He and his brother got me into the Soft Boys all those years ago. NFT pizza - luke warm, cardboard base, cardboard topping I was surprised at the orientation of the audience/store/Robyn/camera. I expected to see the audience to be on the pavement/sidewalk with Robyn on the other side of the glass as a kind of 'performing shop display' facing the road. My ideal film would have had Ntchuks joining Robyn on Devil's Radio, Andy joining Robyn on the Yip Song, and Airscape played faster. I feel Airscape falls apart as a song when Robyn plays it so slowly. For me it loses impact and I like it a bit more 'up-tempo'. No trolling intended but I wish Freeze and I Am Not Me had been dropped from the film. I know they are Robyn's Telecaster Standards but I think they are weak numbers. I would have preferred 'Statue', Arthur Lee' or 'Feelers'. I agreed with Robyn's view that organised religion is highjacking peoples spirituality. I'm looking forward to Robyn at the Queen Elizabeth Hall. The last time I went there was in '91 to see the excellent Durutti Column. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:19:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: AllStar news www.allstarmag.com Captain Beefheart Box Set Due In March Legendary avant garde blues/ jazz/ rock experimentalist Captain Beefheart will be forever immortalized on an upcoming box set, entitled Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Grow Fins, on Revenant Records in late March. The five-disc set, which features a hardbound book, will include two CDs of rehearsals from the Trout Mask Replica sessions, Beefheart's 1968 masterpiece, as well as a live disc, an enhanced CD, and two CDs of odds and sods spanning Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band's 18-year career. All tracks on the box set are previously unreleased. Although Beefheart (whose real name is Don Van Vliet) left the music business shortly after the release of the 1982's Ice Cream for Crow to pursue painting in the Mojave desert and is not involved in the project, several members of the Magic Band, most notably John "Drumbo" French, have been directly involved in its planning and development. French is also writing the liner notes for the set. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 19:28:21 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: AllStar news 022000 pasted for our edification... > Although Beefheart (whose real name is Don Van Vliet) > left the music business shortly after the release of > the 1982's Ice Cream for Crow to pursue painting in > the Mojave desert Does anyone know where "in the Mojave desert"? Does this mean a trailer in Niland or something more exotic? wondering, .chris (I am also wondering how many copies of Withnail and I Mr. Tews owns on laser disc and would be shocked in no uncertain terms if he had not seen it!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:57:23 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: what kind of a name is newt anyway? >It still embarrasses me. I really think you have to be male to truly >appreciate this one. We all feel as though we should be in a bathroom, >all the time. s[peak for yourself. I feel as though I should be out hunting giraffes or something. James PS - welcome to ALL tyhe new fegs! Thay seem to be arriving from everywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:34:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Fuel cells and a little Robyn dilemma Chris> many fuel cell plans use the Chris> hydrogen contained in relatively safe chemicals like Chris> ammonia. Woow - welcome to the world of hydrogen embrittlement! Hydrogen in usable concentrations does very bad things to steel, like make it crumble in a cookie stylee. Dilemma: - Robyn supports Storefront Hitchcock at the Cameo Cinema in Edinburgh on Monday evening. - Catherine & I have a very important wedding logistics meeting on Monday evening. What to do? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:13:21 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: The Orchard (0 RH) Has anyone come across a company called The Orchard? They're offering the service of distributing unsigned bands' CDs through on-line stores such as cdnow and amazon, giving the bands 70% of the sales. You have to become a member, which costs $29 minimum (extra photos, sound clips etc. cost more). Our band has been approached by them, and I was wondering if anyone else had. Their website is at http://www.theorchard.com , but there's not much on it at the moment. They've sent us an agreement form to sign, but I wanted to find out more about them first. If you've got any info, or if anyone wants to take a look at the agreement (especially if any of you have had experience of such things - Mark G?), e-mail me off-list. Thanks, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:06:29 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: secret code that was Allstar MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/12/98 7:34:33 PM, you wrote: > > <<022000 pasted for our edification...>> > > Guitar tab? I don't get it. Wouldn't that be some kind of an AMsus4? > Or am I reading it upside down? Oh, cuz then it would be EBEGBE, right? I'm > confused, Chris. Fear not for I have a remedy. You will of course remember what chord this is in a round about way, no? And you remember that Eb wrote the original message, no? If that does not give it away, I have no beeznezz explaining further!! Oh, and damn my spelling, too. That should have been "posted" not "pasted." I think the list is above pasting for the time being. .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:25:35 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: secret code that was Allstar On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Chris! wrote: > MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 11/12/98 7:34:33 PM, you wrote: > > > > <<022000 pasted for our edification...>> > > > > Guitar tab? I don't get it. Wouldn't that be some kind of an AMsus4? > > Or am I reading it upside down? Oh, cuz then it would be EBEGBE, right? I'm > > confused, Chris. > > > Fear not for I have a remedy. You will of course remember what chord > this is in a round about way, no? And you remember that Eb wrote the > original message, no? If that does not give it away, I have no > beeznezz explaining further!! > > Oh, and damn my spelling, too. That should have been "posted" not > "pasted." I think the list is above pasting for the time being. > > .chris > Uh, isn't that and E minor (Em) chord, or am I completely missing the point? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:39:49 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Gillis Subject: Re: secret code that was Allstar On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Eric Loehr wrote: > Uh, isn't that and E minor (Em) chord, or am I completely missing the > point? True. My mistake. I realized that soon after the original post. But, how far am I allowed to stray off course? O.K. not that far. In local news, there is a structure floating in the sky here that resembles a tomato on a cone in striking terms. It is above a car dealership and it looks damn close to the real thing, if it were not made of balloons. Red tomato on the top part, and a solid green based (no stripes and a bit straight for a cone, too). If you were familiar with such things you would say there is a direct influence, but not out here. Although, you would wonder why every housing development has some mention to quail this or quail that out here. I think more than a direct influence, more than some Spencerian response to the presence of these small flightless birds, more than chance, I say... mistaken, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: secret code that was Allstar On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Chris Gillis wrote: > Although, you would wonder why every housing development has some > mention to quail this or quail that out here. I think more than a direct > influence, more than some Spencerian response to the presence of these > small flightless birds, more than chance, I say... There are housing developments here with quail in their names as well. Dozens of them. Mostly in the Tigard area. It's the strangest thing. I was going to post on it months ago, but I don't believe I did. What's this? Is Allen a big real estate tycoon? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: NYC next weekend. OK... here's the question: Do I buy the nifty old rotary valve trumpet or do I go to NYC to see Robyn and the film next weekend? I have to decide by end of day today. I can't believe this is tearing me up. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #425 *******************************