From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #420 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 9 1998 Volume 07 : Number 420 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mr. Jones [amadain ] Re: Aquarium lyric [amadain ] Re: Please confuse me [Capuchin ] Re: Mr. Jones [Terrence M Marks ] Loose Ends ["Tony Blackman"] zzzzzzzzzzz [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Checking in [Ross Overbury ] Stupid question, etc. (was Re: silly things) [Jason Thornton ] Re: Aquarium lyric [The Great Quail ] Storefront Elliott [Eb ] Sad news [Eb ] Archaeology [Michael Wolfe ] Re: Archaeology [Eb ] Re: Aquarium lyric [Danielle ] Hate to break it to you, GQuail, but... [Eb ] Re: Hummer (Monica Content 0%) [fred is ted ] Re: Aquarium lyric [Tom Clark ] Re: Storefront Hitchcock LP ["'Syd' Meats" ] Re: Aquarium lyric [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Storefront Hitchcock LP [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:43:12 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Mr. Jones >true... but heartfelt, and a stirring evocation of the author's somewhat >condescending viewpoint. whereas a song whose purpose is to explain >"Ballad Of A Thin Man" to people who didn't get it strikes me as >compounding everything that might have been wrong with the original, and >inheriting none of the charm. Well, the song doesn't actually -explain- anything, it sort of pokes fun at the people who were always asking Dylan who Mr. Jones was, as though it were his downstairs neighbor or some shit. I also always thought that was pretty stupid :). I read this one very differently. Actually I read it as implying that we've all got a bit of Mr. Jones in us somewhere, and that if you're so un-self-aware as not to realize that, you're the biggest Mr. Jones of all. OBRobyn- is "Ballad of A Thin Man" one he ever covered? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:46:57 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Aquarium lyric >Actually, it's because I didn't know the answer to these questions, though >maybe everyone else knows and simply wants to keep the Quailspiracy status >quo. I was just waiting to see the input from people who have actually worked on tabs/lyrics. My vote, FWIW, is that it sounds to me like "greasy ray". I honestly don't know the answers to the other questions. No quails were harmed in the production of this message. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Please confuse me On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, mondacello wrote: > >OK, kids. I'm going to be uploading some changes next week, but here's > >what you can use for now: > >http://www.teleport.com/~capuchin/lyrics.cgi > >Enjoy and let me know what you think. > I think I'm out of luck... the requested URL was not found on my server. > Thanks anyway sir. Um... yeah. Oops. As Bayard pointed out, I fudged the url. Again, the site will change look quite a bit later in the week when I implement the search function and upload the debugged bits that Bayard's been complaining about forever. http://www.teleport.com/~capuchin/fegmaniax/lyrics.cgi Got that? Enjoy. And yeah... we decided "greasy ray". Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:03:35 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Mr. Jones > OBRobyn- is "Ballad of A Thin Man" one he ever covered? > Didn't he do that on that ROyal Albert Hall thing? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:01:17 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: Loose Ends Well, "Loose Ends" on Saturday morning, BBC Radio 4 wasn't up to much. Robyn was a very minor guest. Just a quick couple of questions about the film and his relationship with Jonathon Demme, a bit of a plug for the London premiere and the QEH gig and then what I considered to be a fairly poor rendition of "1974". I guess that's the song he's "chosen" for all radio appearances! I recorded it anyway so if anyone's thinking of setting up a radio appearances tape tree (or anything similar), they're more than welcome to it and the last lot of GLR sessions. Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:26:26 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: zzzzzzzzzzz >Be vigilent Fegs!, arm yourself with black flag, mortein and fly swatters,for >if you let down your guard you may well find yourself overrun one of these >fine mornings and awake to find you have been subsumed into the collective >mind set of THE HIVE . It's too late. The assimilation began a long time ago.... in the summer of 1997, to be precise, when a certain tiny, humming insect joined the list.... Legend has it that the Emperor Titus was driven mad when a gnat took up residence in his ear. One of my illustrious ancestors, no doubt.... - - gNat zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 9:48:39 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Checking in > > http://www.ginov.com/40Intro.shtml > > And he's from Montreal! I'm so proud. Did you know he's also a Nobel laureate? Something to do with either gluons or chest hair; or maybe it was glue-on chest hair. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:31:23 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Stupid question, etc. (was Re: silly things) At 06:38 PM 11/8/98 EST, MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 11/8/98 9:59:57 AM, you wrote: > ><getting these albums,.righrt?>> > > Well, unless some other label picks them up. Hopefully, someone high up >at some other label is a Robyn fan and will have said label pick up his >catalog. I guess it depends on how much the price tag would be. If Rhino >owns all the rights now and are making money off of "Uncorrected Personality >Traits" (the compilation album; not the song), then, yeah, that might well be >"it" for all that material for the forseeable future. Totally sucks. Is there a noticeable sound quality difference between the Rhino reissues and the previous CD versions (whatever label they were on)? I own the older versions of "Fegmania!"* and "Element of Light" and am wondering if I should replace them WHILST THERE IS STILL TIME!!!!! It'd be nice to have the bonus tracks, too, I guess. I finally decided to replace my broken turntable(s) this weekend, after 5 or 6 years. Went to the Sony Outlet store, and almost bought this very cheap plastic one for about $60. I opened the box, and found that the metal disc with rubber covering that the record sits upon (I suppose there's a technical term for that) was off, and it looked as if the belt underneath was off its gears, so I decided not to purchase it. Everything at the Sony store is refurbished, anyhow...so it might not have been a very good idea, in any case. So, my uncle, after hearing my story, ended up giving me his old turntable, a Dual(?). Seemed well-built... metal parts and everything. Got it home and hooked to my stereo system, only to find that it'll only play one second of music, and then decide that it's reached the end of the LP, and the arm will automatically lift and return to its little holder (another technical term for this as well?) - no matter where on the record I start. Argh! So, the vinyl version of "Storefront Hitchcock" ("Storecock Hitchfront?") is owned, but still unheard. More mention of bees on last night's "X-Files." I'm just waiting for some slimy, long-clawed alien-human hybrid thingy to come barrelling out of Eb's chest. Perhaps it already has? By the way, why is it that almost all alien lifeforms (except on Star Trek, where all aliens look like deformed humans) always, always, always depicted as being covered in clear or snot-green slime? What exactly set the precedent for this gooey aspect of non-terrestrial anatomy? Black cars look better in the shade, - --Jason np: RH & TE, "Kershaw Sessions" (finally found it on CD) *=my spellchecker wanted to replace "Fegmania!" with "Began." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:19:43 -0500 From: Mike Runion Subject: Storefront Hitchcock LP Hey all, Well, I was pleasantly surprised to find both the Storefront LP and Smartie Mine lying on the kitchen table when I got home from work on Friday. I wasn't able to listen to the LP until late Saturday afternoon whilst wife and brood were off grocery shopping. Anyway, I LOVE it. Irregardless of overdubs or whatnot, which I'm not very adept at picking out anyway, I think it far surpasses it's CD cousin. All the between-song banter is different, and daresay it comes off cleaner, more spontaneous, and less self-conscious. Is anyone else annoyed by the CD's banter about being launched out over London and falling through the air only to stop 8' short? I mean, Robyn seems to stutter and says "uh" a lot and can't seem to find the right words. Or when it sounds like he uses "comtent" instead of "contempt" when talking about religion? I guess what I'm saying is that I feel the LP captures Robyn's live schtick far better than the CD. Now, the music. The inclusion of stunning versions of both "Statue With A Walkman" and "Eerie Green Storm Lantern" cement the LP in place far above the CD. "Airscape" comes off nicely as well. I know it isn't, but the LP has the feel of listening to one show, maybe a really great bootleg, where the CD just feels like an odd jumble of live songs with no real flow to it. It's odd how the inclusion of just a few more songs and, in many cases, more lengthy banter really turns this thing into "Fuck-Ass Rawk'n'Roll", to quote Robyn on the second LP. Can you tell I like this record? It really sucks that few will hear it since it's on vinyl. Now, I've only listened to the first disc of Smartie Mine, which came off really good. I'll hold off further comments until I've listened to the whole thing a few times...but so far I think it kicks butt over 50 Eggs. Mike n.p. Love And Rockets - Lift p.s. I listened to my wife's copy of Beck's Mutations last night driving around and was quite impressed. Nowhere near as sparse and acoustic as they've led us to believe. A swell CD if you ask me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 15:00:11 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Aquarium lyric Susan writes, >No quails were harmed in the production of this message. But what about after? What about *after,* for the love of God? - --Q PS: Yes, and Robyn *did* cover "Ballad of a Thin Man" at the Royal Jelly Albert Mall gig. He did alter it, though, by adding the word "fuck" where I believe Bob only said "Belgium." PPS: Robyn also drops off my favorite verse of "Desolation Row," but doesn't add any spurious "fucks." PPPS: This fucking letter was brought to you by the word "Fuck," courtesy of Eddie fucking Tews, and the word "Belgium," courtesy of TGQ Douglas Adams In-Joke/Allusion, Inc. PPPPS: And no Susans were harmed during the production of this message, but a Danielle and and an Ethyl Ketone where severely whacked about the head with a bag of stale fucking twinkies. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. . . . . +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:59:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Storefront Elliott FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: "STRANGE PARALLEL" A short film featuring Elliott Smith, directed by Steve Hanft, and introducing Robot Hand Film to have Academy Award qualifying run November 14 at Laemmle Theater in Los Angeles ***** Assorted cable TV runs across the U.S. to follow! Elliott Smith has teamed up with Steve Hanft and Jason Mason to co-write a short film about his life and music that is equal parts documentary, fiction, and dream. The film travels through Smith's haunts in Portland, New York City, and various stops in between, and features footage of Smith recording and performing, as well as interviews with filmmaker Gus Van Sant ("Good Will Hunting"), Portland duo Quasi, and Smith's bartenders, fans and friends. The film also introduces the soon-to-be-famous Robot Hand. "Strange Parallel" can be described as a guide through Elliott Smith's musical life presented as a series of surreal daydreams connected by nothing more than his beautiful songs. The 30-minute short was directed by Steve Hanft, frontman of Ventura, California, band Sexy Death Soda, and director of music videos for Beck, The Cure, Veruca Salt and the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, as well as the feature film "Kill The Moonlight." "Strange Parallel" had it's world debut at this month's CMJ Conference. DreamWorks Records hopes to secure distribution for the film and plans to screen it at future film festivals. Currently, the film is not expected to be released to home video. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:38:26 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Sad news This is probably of little interest to most of you, but.... [Forwarded from another mailing list] >Some sad news just coming in. >Apparently Simeon and Danny of the Silver Apples have had a serious car >smash, involving at least 5 rolls of the hired van they were in. Danny >fortunately walked away from it relatively unscathed, but Simeon suffered a >broken neck. At the moment he's paralysed, and will obviously never play >(or paint, or cook - his other two passions) again, but "might" be able to >walk eventually according to the doctors in New York. Peg hopes to get him >home to Baltimore as soon as possible. > >It'd be nice to think "we" (as in his fans) might be able to organise some >kind of benefit for him, or at least some way of showing we care, in due >course - but right now I'm too stunned to think straight to be honest. >Anyone wanting to send messages of support should write care of Peg Udall, >since she'll be at home (when she can get away from the hospital) at: >Whirlybird Records, 28 Decatur Ave., Annapolis MD 21403 USA > >Terrible huh? > >Nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:23:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Archaeology Elocuted by tongues various and sundry: > < Chess was "One Night in Bankok", wasn't it?>> > > Yeah, I don't think the two had anything to do with one another ("Chess" > and "Rock Me Amadeus"). Yes, you're both right. I feel like a nitwit now. The only thing connecting them is the over-the-top new-waviness that they share, and a vague similarity in the time frame of release (i.e., my pre-adolescent years.) Oh well, at least I didn't get it confused with "Puttin' on the Ritz" by Taco. :) Incidentally, has it occured to anyone that maybe "electronica" is to grunge what new wave was to punk? Just a little parallel that I drew while typing this. Ken Sabatini pontificated as follows: > Well, I probably shouldn't even ask this as no one responded to my request > for clarification on RH's "Aquarium" lyrics: "greasy rail" "green sea > ray" etc. But mabye that was too overtly Robyn-related. > Come to think of it, no one answered my questions about Hummers (the > vehicles) either: whether they were a make or a model . . . (followed by much gnashing of teeth about the Philistines Jr. (which I can't help with) and behavioral psycology.) Hummers: I just know that they're the US armed forces new General Purpose (or GP, which is, incidentally, where the word Jeep came from) vehicle. I'm not entirely sure of the difference between a "make" and a "model" of car, but I do know that the Hummer is not some whacked-out, heavily modified version of some normal civilian car (like, say, a Geo Metro.) It is its own class of car. As for the Aquarium lyrics, that rang a bell with me. For some reason, a post made way back in 1993 to this very mailing list has stuck in my memory all this time (maybe because I had a similar experience at that very aquarium to the one he described.) Anyway, this very question has been answered before, and rather than try and relate the answer third hand, I did about ten minutes of digging in the archives and found just the thing. Maybe I'm just odd, but I think that it says something remarkable about a post that it's recalled after 5 years, so I thought it'd be nice to share it with you. Heck, I don't even remember most of the posts _I_ made 5 years ago! He didn't sign it, and lord only knows if the address is still valid, but here it is: <> "i've just got back from a two-week driving trip in california. when the others said "next stop, monterey", i said "let's go stroke a greasy ray". they said "what are you talking about, you silly hippy?", but of course you all understand, don't you?" "so we had dinner at the sardine factory where the service comes with a flourish and an obseqious "if i may", and onto the aquarium. where i was amazed to see a tank full of small rays which apparently liked being stroked by people. so i stuck my hand in the water and one swam up and i stroked it. and guess what it felt like? sort of gelatinous and slippery." "it's an amazing thing to unexpectedly stumble across the inspiration for one of robyn's songs. it's also humbling to realise how expertly he turns an interesting experience into a beatifully haunting song." "for the record the fish do go through the trees - there's a kelp forest with fish swimming in and out which you can view from under the water through glass walls. there's also a circular tank about four feet across where thousands of sardines just swim round and round. my favourite exhibit (not mentioned in the song) was the cuttlefish which sat there watching me watching it with its skin gently scintillating and opalescing." To which one Andy Holyer replied: "I agree. Eye had never really grabbed, me, but last year I went to an HCI conference in.. Monterey. The conference reception was in the aquarium. The Kelp forest is really something - it's three storys high. Personally I loved the tank of anchovies - a cylinder, and all these flashing silvery fish swimming round, and round, and round, and..." "A few months ago, I gave "Eye" another go. And what did I find? It was a real "Aha!" moment. Cynthia must have *loved* taking Robyn there, it's such a Robyn place." "It's just a shame that Monterey itself reminded me of a Californian Eastbourne. And Carmel? Sheesh, don't get me started, I go into my Lionel Bart accent and then I have to go and lie down..." So, that is what was said on this very subject 5 years ago. "Greasy ray" It's just one possible opinion, but it seems a well founded one. Rays don't tend to be green, they're more grey (at least the ones that I've seen.) Ken Sabatini further queried: > Ok, here's the question: There's this Magnavox commercial--for their flat > tv technology--that has a few seconds of a the Beatles's song "Getting > Better" being sung. Specifically, the line, "its getting better all the > time" is sung by a raspy male voice. Who is singing this? My guess is that > its the singer of Grant Lee Buffalo . . . or is that someone's name: Mr. > "Grant Lee Buffalo?" This is a wild guess as I only know about 2 songs > from GLB. Any answers out there? Okay, now to wrap up this omnibus post. I don't have a tv, so I haven't seen the commercial. Sorry. But the lead singer of Grant Lee Buffalo is Grant Lee Phillips. Having listened to two whole albums rather religiously for the last few months, I am of the opinion that Phillip's voice does not, as a general rule tend towards raspy. Well, not a complete set of answers, but hopefully helpful. - -Michael Wolfe np - Calobo, Live at the Crystal Ballroom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:19:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Archaeology >Hummers: I just know that they're the US armed forces new General Purpose (or >GP, which is, incidentally, where the word Jeep came from) vehicle. I'm not >entirely sure of the difference between a "make" and a "model" of car, but >I do >know that the Hummer is not some whacked-out, heavily modified version of >some >normal civilian car (like, say, a Geo Metro.) It is its own class of car. Isn't the vehicle called a "Humvee," not a "Hummer"? I thought hummers were, um, something else. (Ask our resident expert LJ for more details.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:47:22 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: Aquarium lyric Quail: > PPPPS: And no Susans were harmed during the production of this message, > but a Danielle and and an Ethyl Ketone were severely whacked about the > head with a bag of stale fucking twinkies. You know, it's funny you should mention that. I had my very first fucking Twinkie a few weeks ago. It wasn't too bad. I'm slowly working my way through the various sweetmeats on offer in this fair land - though I have yet to eat an Oreo. I welcome recommendations - what on earth *is* a Baby Ruth, anyway? Last week's experiment was Butterfinger, which came off rather well, especially considering that I find peanut/chocolate combinations almost as distasteful as Eb finds Vegemite. Actually, on the Eb tip, I tried a very pleasant honey liqueur on Friday night, and ate some (*black with yellow packaging*) Vegemite the next morning. Who's been playing Bee Thousand lately? 'Fess up... Danielle, who was attacked by a cockroach when visiting relatives on Saturday - though I don't think that has the makings of a very romantic conspiracy theory NP The sound of 115 sophomore history essays begging to be graded _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:59:02 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Hate to break it to you, GQuail, but... ...D# has found a new concern, thanks to some other ampf-er's Enigmabait -- apparently, Phish has a song called "AC/DC Bag" which clearly implicates the band as being Enigma co-conspirators as well. Among other lines, the lyrics contain: "Mr. Palmer is concerned with the thousand dollar question Just like Roger he's a crazy little kid I've got the time if you've got the inclination So cheer up Palmer, you'll soon be dead The noose is hanging, at least you won't die wondering Sit up and take notice; Tell it like it is If I were near you I wouldn't be far from you I've got a feeling you know what you did " Both "Mr. [Carl] Palmer" and "Roger" [Waters, OR Barrett...] mentioned by name! Not to mention [Shine You] "Crazy" [Diamond]. Eh oh.... I'm concerned that you concealed this vital information from us, Quail. Eb np: "LJ & The Quail," season 2, episode 4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Hummer (Monica Content 0%) - ---Ken Sabatini wrote: > Come to think of it, no one answered my questions about Hummers (the> vehicles) either: whether they were a make or a model . . . Well, all ya have to do is enter "Hummer" on a search engine. You'll get plenty of info that way. AM General is the make. Hummer is the model name. As M. Wolfe pointed out, they are the newish US military utility vehicle. The military acronym is HMMMV or something like that, hence the nicknames. Smarty-pants grad student-type hip ten years ago consumer culture critique follows: When driven by civilians, the Hummer is the ultimate in automotive "futile consumption." Wasteful of resources, drives horribly, wholly impractical. Much like SUVs, the Hummer has no redeeming features whatsoever (well, maybe safety), except to prove you have money to waste and that your shaky status needs conspicuous protection. Thus its symbolic popularity with movie stars, rappers and anxious middle-class limo renters. [Hey, don't knock it, this kind of yammering gets published]. I'm pissed at SUVs at the moment cuz a good friend was nearly t-boned in his "regular" car by a red-light running at 40 mph Ford Explorer this morning. Fortunately the other driver hit the left front and missed the driver area by a couple of feet. Reminds me to go rent "Crash." Thank you and good night Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:20:59 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Aquarium lyric On 11/9/98 3:47 PM, Danielle wrote: >You know, it's funny you should mention that. I had my very first >fucking Twinkie a few weeks ago. It wasn't too bad. I'm slowly working >my way through the various sweetmeats on offer in this fair land - >though I have yet to eat an Oreo. I welcome recommendations - what on >earth *is* a Baby Ruth, anyway? Last week's experiment was >Butterfinger, which came off rather well, especially considering that >I find peanut/chocolate combinations almost as distasteful as Eb finds >Vegemite. Try a Clark Bar! - -tc (no relation) p.s. Candy trivia: The Baby Ruth was NOT named after Babe Ruth. It was named after the company's grandaughter. Or something to that effect. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:34:14 +0000 From: "'Syd' Meats" Subject: Re: Storefront Hitchcock LP In article <3647323F.2C4B@palmnet.net>, Mike Runion writes > All the >between-song banter is different, and daresay it comes off cleaner, more >spontaneous, and less self-conscious. > I >guess what I'm saying is that I feel the LP captures Robyn's live >schtick far better than the CD. > I've not heard the LP, but have to agree that the CD does not really capture Robyn's live spontaneity. There are some fine renditions of the songs, but the in-between banter sounds awkward and self-conscious. RANT MODE ON Actually I'm really pissed off by this dual format CD/LP thing. I've just spent fifteen and a half quid on the CD, and I'm buggered if I'm going to buy the LP as well. I fell for it last time with Moss Elixir, but I'm not doing it again. Why can't there just be one decent version of the album ? It's ridiculous that we've got two versions of Storefront Hitchcock at a time when so many other albums are being deleted. RANT MODE OFF Well I'm off to see the film later. I must remember to avoid felafels on the way home. Syd - ----------------------------------------------------- 'Syd' Meats, Southampton, UK mailto:Syd@Meats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:38:02 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Aquarium lyric >p.s. Candy trivia: The Baby Ruth was NOT named after Babe Ruth. It was >named after the company's grandaughter. Or something to that effect. The way I heared it, it was after Grover Cleveland's daughter, Ruth. I think they're a good candy bar, myself. np-Harry Nilsson, THe Point ("You been goofin' with the bees?") Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Storefront Hitchcock LP On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, 'Syd' Meats wrote: > I've not heard the LP, but have to agree that the CD does not really > capture Robyn's live spontaneity. There are some fine renditions of the > songs, but the in-between banter sounds awkward and self-conscious. For the record, I prefer the LP as well. > RANT MODE ON > Actually I'm really pissed off by this dual format CD/LP thing. I've > just spent fifteen and a half quid on the CD, and I'm buggered if I'm > going to buy the LP as well. I fell for it last time with Moss Elixir, > but I'm not doing it again. Why can't there just be one decent version > of the album ? It's ridiculous that we've got two versions of Storefront > Hitchcock at a time when so many other albums are being deleted. > RANT MODE OFF Well, first off, you all know I disagree with this on principle. I'm all for multiple versions of things precisely because of the money. I mean, if WB has to squeeze more money out of the diehard fans to keep Robyn on contract and not feel like they're wasting cash on a no-seller, fine. So be it. I'll fork over thirty dollars every two years for Robyn IN ADDITION to the fifty or so I spend a year on his live shows. Really, is that going to kill you? It keeps Robyn's demand up and his income steady. Support the man that gives you so much. Second, I still think the multiple format thing works. The different versions have different feels and are of different values. Here's an odd idea. I think I like who Robyn is better than he does. Robyn said that Mossy Liquor was the quickly shot-off version and the CD had less sugar and more substance. Well, guess which one I prefer? Even in the long haul? Robyn and I don't share too many musical tastes. What Robyn does on stage is infinitely better, in my opinion, than what he's done recently when he has time to hang out in the studio and fiddle with something. In the studio, he takes the time to make something HE likes. When he's on stage, he can only do what he does. I like what he does, but not really what he likes. Just a thought. Words. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #420 *******************************