From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #417 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 6 1998 Volume 07 : Number 417 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) [Tom Clark ] lyrics [Bayard ] Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston [Michael Wolfe ] Hartman. [Capuchin ] Re: lyrics [Capuchin ] Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) [Zloduska ] Uz Jsme Doma ve Washingtone, 12. listopadu [Christopher Gross ] Re: junkmale ["Chris!" ] Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... [amadain ] Re: Eb wherabouts [Jon Fetter ] Re: Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston [Tom Clark ] Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... [Aaron Mandel ] Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:58:56 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, The Great Quail wrote: >> but a little bit of research showed that he was relatively straight, >> except for that fetish he shares with Troy MacLure. >As a RH *AND* Simpsons fan, I should get this reference. I must be getting >forgetful in my old age. Can someone please 'splain? Fish. Ewww. From the episode where Troy marries Patty or Selma. Personally, I do prefer fish but feel lucky there are more options. Happies, - -Markg "Hey Lisa, how do you like your tongue sandwich?" - -Patty or possibly Selma Bouvier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:24:28 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) On 11/5/98 1:58 PM, Mark Gloster wrote: >On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, The Great Quail wrote: > >>> but a little bit of research showed that he was relatively straight, >>> except for that fetish he shares with Troy MacLure. > >>As a RH *AND* Simpsons fan, I should get this reference. I must be getting >>forgetful in my old age. Can someone please 'splain? > >Fish. Ewww. From the episode where Troy marries Patty or Selma. >Personally, I do prefer fish but feel lucky there are more options. > >Happies, >-Markg > >"Hey Lisa, how do you like your tongue sandwich?" >-Patty or possibly Selma Bouvier It was Selma. Remember at the end of "Stop The Planet Of The Apes, I Want To Get Off!" when Troy thanks her? Troy: "It's great to be back. I just want to say, I wouldn't be here without the support of a very special lady, my always outrageous fiance, Selma. Take a bow, sugar beet!" Selma (Standing): "Oh, hem, um..." Homer: "Down in front!" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:00:18 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: lyrics On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, mondacello wrote: > I've a question to ask, truly Robyn related... is there a fairly > complete Hitchcock Lyric site out there? Capuchin, you are being paged! Jeme Capuchin Brelin is going to have a nifty robyn lyrics site up - unfortunately, he's got a job now and it's really cutting into his free time. I can field a certain amount of lyrics requests via email in the meantime. Let me know what you need. Oh, and I'll have the lyrics in the database as well. Our very own JH3 is providing enourmous amounts of help. Before you know it, he may be on two or even three people's lists of fav fegs. And welcome! =b ps. I still need help with setlists and giglistings - for instance, did robyn play St. Catherine's HALL, or St. Catherine's HILL in '90? Is the club in Portland OR called Berbaties Pan or Berbati's Pan? was the German Club RH plated on 02/17/85 Onkel Po's , or Onkel Poe's? etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:35:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston Mr. Uber elucidated thusly: >> but a little bit of research showed that he was relatively straight, >> except for that fetish he shares with Troy MacLure. > > As a RH *AND* Simpsons fan, I should get this reference. I must be getting > forgetful in my old age. Can someone please 'splain? There was an episode back in, oh, 96 I think, where Troy's film career is in shambles due to rumors of his having some kind of sick icthyo-philia. He bumps into Selma...? Patty? One of the two. Anyway, the press assumes that they're dating, and when it's discovered that he actually has an interest in something human (or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof) his career soars. Of course, this brings us back --as all topics of conversation eventually must-- to the Planet of the Apes. The episode features the wonderful Planet of the Apes: The Musical sequence, which the newly rejuvenated Troy lands a part in. With tunes blatantly (and hilariously) lifted from Chess ("Ooh! Help me Doctor Seaus!") Homer's reaction is "I love legitimate thee-ay-ter." Requesiat In Pacem, Phil Hartman On a different note, I'm surprised that the fellow at Apple wouldn't listen to Robyn just because he thought he was gay. Seems like a ridiculous criterion for judging musical merit to me. And just what the hell did he listen to during the early and mid 80's? - -Michael Wolfe n.p. The Kershaw Sessions (imagine that!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:12:42 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: lyrics >=b > >ps. I still need help with setlists and giglistings - for instance, did >robyn play St. Catherine's HALL, or St. Catherine's HILL in '90? Is the >club in Portland OR called Berbaties Pan or Berbati's Pan? was the German >Club RH plated on 02/17/85 Onkel Po's , or Onkel Poe's? etc. stop it, stop it!! the room is spinning! yours truly, msr. le smelly-butt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:19:27 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Hartman. On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Michael Wolfe wrote: > Requesiat In Pacem, Phil Hartman Speaking of Phil... Is anyone else a little upset that they're billing Small Soldiers as a Phil Hartman movie now? The film version went with a more tasteful (and accurate) trailer that described the battle betweent these toy things. The video trailer says that it's His (Hartman's) struggle to keep his property and healthy and sanity against these toys. It doesn't say his name or the character's name in the trailer, but it keeps saying "Watch HIM" and "HE can't find..." It's terrible. Such a poor play. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: lyrics On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Bayard wrote: > Is the > club in Portland OR called Berbaties Pan or Berbati's Pan? Berbati's Pan. Berbati's is a greek restaurant. The Pan is the bar in the back. Probably the most crowded Robyn show ever. Not to mention the site of my first underage bar experience (thanks Robyn!). Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:39:26 -0600 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Notes from the Real World(TM) Michael K wrote: > Well, you know, the Beatles *are* one of only 7 musical categories >to exist prior to the advent of disco: > >1) Elvis Presley >2) The Beatles >3) that jazzy stuff; you know, anything with a saxophone >4) old country, like that guy. . . what's his name? Hank Williams, Jr.'s dad >. . . >5) classical [snooze] >6) lame old records that really old people like -- Lawrence Welk and stuff >like that. >6a) well, I mean, I like Sinatra and everything. Hey, the Chairman, right! >7) Hendrix & the Doors, man! Hey man, that's JIVE. What about the BLUES, man? And Reggae? ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:36:10 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Uz Jsme Doma ve Washingtone, 12. listopadu Attention, Fegs! Uz Jsme Doma, the little Czech band that could, will be playing at the Black Cat in Washington DC on Thursday, Nov. 12. Those in the DC area should definitely treat themselves to this show. The rest of you should scan the newspapers for word of a show near you. (I apologize to any Washington State residents who got all excited at the Washington in the subject line, only to have their hopes dashed.) To quote from the flyer for this show: "UJD's music cackles and honks, snickers and sputters, involving beer-garden singalongs at one moment and surf-rock the next ... it's sardonic and driven, disrupting Old World traditions with the mechanization of modernism and the jump cuts of the information age. For all its precision, it's never far from comedy." -- Jon Pareles, New York Times Plus, they're Czech! What could be cooler than that? In the meantime, I'll be at the PJ Harvey show at the 9:30 Club tomorrow. Can I expect to see any other Fegs there? And next Tuesday Meat Beat Manifesto will play at the Black Cat, which should be fun, although I don't know if I can make it there myself.... - --Chris (who has no financial stake in any of these concerts) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:53:07 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #416 >Thanks to all for welcoming, and accepting me (bad spelling and all)... >Quail, rUss, Ross and Aaron. sorry, but that should be "Quails R Us", Ross and Aaron. James. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:26:58 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston >On a different note, I'm surprised that the fellow at Apple wouldn't >listen to >Robyn just because he thought he was gay. I kinda wonder about those guys who are always detecting gayness in everything and trying to avoid it all costs. Do they think they'll get infected with gayness or what? Why are they constantly on the gay alert? > Seems like a ridiculous criterion for judging musical merit to me. As indeed it is. >And just what the hell did he listen to during the >early and mid 80's? Music by people who were in fact heterosexual but wore makeup and talked a lot about how bi they were cause they thought it was very cool and Bowie was their hero. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:13:30 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: junkmale desmond in a tutu wrote: > > also sprach .chris: > > >(4) Picked up a vinyl copy of a Robyn show labeled as "Washington > >3.28.98." This was put out on Feg You Records with no date of release, > >but I assume that it was of late eighties vintage. It features what > >claims to be a R. Crumb drawing on the front and a typical 86-ish > >photo of our man. Total of 11 tracks. I have not had the time to > >listen to it yet. Has anyone heard of this? Know the story behind it. > > _the hooded one_. vinyl bootleg. i don't remember when it appeared, but it > might have been 1988 or so. the date of the show according to the label is > 28 march 1986, but i don't know if that is correct or not. it's an average > audience recording. note the midnight records address brazenly printed on > the back. > I finished listening to it and the overall quality is lacking. The sound quality is what it must sound like up Bayard's sleeve or stuffed in Eddy's jacket. Because that was what the tape sounded like. That or it was recorded in the venue's bathroom. Very low volume with lots of low end. One thing I did like about it, that really made an impact after hearing the Storefront stuff, was the stories. They were just that, actual stories that started somewhere and ended with a conclusion, none of this rambling for the sake of improvising. On the boot the stories are really good on their own (what got Mr. H known for concert banter), as intros to the songs, and without being "look at this weird rambling" sort of thing. Just what is missing from many of the more current stories we all are familiar with. Not that he can't still pull off brilliant moments... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:43:51 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... >C'mon Dolph, you still have a chance. Still haven't heard >the vinyl storefront. I guess we'll see how Stan Ridgway >stax up. Aw, there's a new Beck too. We haven't all heard that yet. I have a feeling it's gonna kick my ass from what I've heard about it. There's also Momus's "Little Red Songbook". And of course.....the BAWB stuff, though that isn't really new so I suppose it doesn't count. I'm waiting to see what else comes down the pipeline before I make any decisions about 1998 Top 10s- fall seems to be the season when they really stick it to the quality record buying public. Only thing I know is "This is Hardcore" and "As Above, So Below" will definitely be on mine. All further judgements pending :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:28:12 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Eb wherabouts. label . . . I was saying that they also signed the band Creeper Lagoon and that i was really surprised at the diversity of songs on their (CL's) recent disc, given what the single sounded like. Eb politely nodded and smiled slightly in response, but I could tell he didn't like the disc. the Kenster reprised his feg dream for us and spoke thus- >Eb and I were talking about the Dreamworks label . . . I was saying that they also signed the band Creeper Lagoon and that i was really surprised at the diversity of songs on their (CL's) recent disc, given what the single sounded like. Eb politely nodded and smiled slightly in response, but I could tell he didn't like the disc. So now we know where Eb is, stuck inside Ken's subconscious. Unless....dire thought..... Ken is the KING BEE ? Buzzing around Eb's hive ? I see it now , poor Eb, perfectly preserved in amber by the striped minions of the vile KB . Looking out on us Feg's as we post.Doomed to observe but not contribute over the millenia.... alas poor Vinnie!!.A foul pergatory for him. Who will venture to release him from his golden prison ? I would, but distance prevents me from attempting it. Perhaps the US members of the surreal posse will ride to his rescue? Lets face it, its not the same without him. Of course there could be a perfectly simple explanation, such as Eb's Mac could be fucking up again, but I know which one I prefer.... dave NP -Captain Beefheart Boston 72 ( which obviously brings out the weirdo in me ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 98 08:11:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Cambridge Folk Fest I just bought a copy of the Cambridge Folk Fest CD (import $20--ouch!) and I must put out a positive word since all we've heard so far has been negative. Overall I enjoy this CD. Though it's only 10 songs they're 10 good ones..."Yip song" is spirited, nice semi-acoustic "globe of frogs", one of the best live "uncorrected personality traits" I've heard (that song often really sucked live), nice version of "Railway shoes." The playing or singing is a little sloppy on a couple of numbers but that was par for the course back then. I like the way it sounds in my living room. Liner notes include a story by RH about a grounded UFO blocking the rout to the festival and the Egyptians forging their way to the stage through tunnels and alleys. - -rUss R. us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 01:00:21 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Eb wherabouts Eb may not have been stung by "a bee"...he may have been stunned by a Tarantuala Hawk. He was able to make it back to his computer before collapsing on his back with his legs and arms all folded up. The pursuing wasp, who had wasted a whole evening waiting for this, settled on his stomach to lay a solitary egg... Why would a Tarantula hawk sting Eb? Well, if you've ever seen a tarantula pounce on an unexpecting cricket, and if you've seen Eb grab a misguided newby's (or anyone else's) e-mail in his slavering chelicerae, you'd be confused too. Jon, who misses Eb's posts too and hopes Eb and the larva are doing fine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:38 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston On 11/5/98 10:26 PM, amadain wrote: >>On a different note, I'm surprised that the fellow at Apple wouldn't >>listen to >>Robyn just because he thought he was gay. > >I kinda wonder about those guys who are always detecting gayness in >everything and trying to avoid it all costs. Do they think they'll get >infected with gayness or what? Why are they constantly on the gay alert? Well, while Susan does have a point, I feel the need to defend the person mentioned. He is not one of "those guys." The point he was making was that whatever CD it was - we still don't know - had a gay theme. Anything wrong with that? Of course not, it's just not something he's interested in. I mean, if I bought a CD and found that most of the lyrics revolved around NASCAR Racing, I don't think I'd listen to it that much. Sorry I brought it up, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:45:14 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, amadain wrote: > There's also Momus's "Little Red Songbook". sadly, this album abruptly kicked me from the "Momus is a literate troubadour" camp to "Momus is a smarmy asshole" camp. not that the two are mutually exclusive, i suppose. anyway, the condescension of "Who Is Mr. Jones?", the wink-wink isn't-transsexualism-naughty attitude in the song about Walter Carlos... big turnoffs for me. he comes off as not knowing just how pedestrian some of his transgressions are. so why aren't Monsters Of Love or Circus Maximus in print? a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:34:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Timewasting trivia dept (0% content) I was thumbing through 'Rock File 3' and 'Rock File 4' the other day and came across some chart trivia from 'Record Mirror' (UK) and 'Billboard' (USA). So, two quick quiz questions: 1) Pete Townshend wrote a number of hit singles in the 60s and 70s for his band, The Who. One of those hit singles has a co-writing credit to a Mr R Daltrey. Which one? 2) The Beatles, a popular beat combo of the 1960s, had a large number of hit records. But _two_ of their US #1 hits were not even released as singles in the UK. Which two? - - Mike G PS And I was right about 'Son of my father' by Chicory Tip being the first big Moog record - they were playing it on the radio the other day and it still sounds fresh. It hit #1 on 5 Feb 1972, more than 5 months before 'Hot butter' by Popcorn, which charted on 26 July 1972 and only made #5. I was also interested to see that Giorgio Moroder, of Munich Disco fame, was one of the writers of SOMF... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:53:58 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: Timewasting trivia dept (0% content) 1) "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" 2) "Yesterday" and "The Long And Winding Road" la. Dolph whose CD will be released officially on 15 Nov 1998 (worldwide) ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:48:44 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... In a message dated 98-11-06 12:49:04 EST, you write: << sadly, this album abruptly kicked me from the "Momus is a literate troubadour" camp to "Momus is a smarmy asshole" camp. not that the two are mutually exclusive, i suppose. >> Hmm. I kinda like this album (as I was telling Susan). No, I don't think the two concepts are mutually exclusive and I kind of admire him for having the audacity to be both. I don't know if I'd like to hang out with Nick Currie, but he's interesting. << so why aren't Monsters Of Love or Circus Maximus in print? >> I believe they both are, as imports, anyway. You might check www.sirencd.com, because they've had them there before. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:58:24 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Hitchcock, McClure, and Heston >Well, while Susan does have a point, I feel the need to defend the person >mentioned. He is not one of "those guys." The point he was making was >that whatever CD it was - we still don't know - had a gay theme. >Anything wrong with that? Of course not, it's just not something he's >interested in. Well, allright, that's certainly fair enough, but I still wonder a bit about his imagination. God knows I've listend to all of Robyn Hitchcock's albums hundreds of times of the years and I don't recall any of them having a gay theme. Now you have me wondering. I dunno why we can't get "Circus Maximus" either Aaron. It annoys me. I've been reading about how cool it is for a couple years now, but our station's copy is gone, natch. Re: "Little Red Songbook"- I actually don't own it so I can't make any top ten comments. I've actually liked the songs I've heard *ducks*. "Everyone I've Ever Slept With Is" is pretty damn funny. I just get a big kick out of "Darling, you really were CECIL B. DEMILLE!". And you know, the original "Mr Jones" (aka "Ballad of a Thin Man" :)) is rather condescending, too. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:59:05 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: woody 'n' bob, dan, 'n' bruce... On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > I believe they both are, as imports, anyway. You might check > www.sirencd.com, because they've had them there before. i had never heard of this place, but it looks like it will be of considerable use to me. thanks! no Friendloverplane2, though. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:13:34 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Momus. This post contains the word sex. Minors be warned. > Hmm. I kinda like this album (as I was telling Susan). No, I don't >think the two concepts are mutually exclusive I don't either, actually. But I'd also like to turn this in a different light for a second. To me, Momus seems to be on a one man crusade to make the world be sexually honest, and to talk about aspects of sexuality that nobody else will even touch. This will involve being perceived as smarmy, and in bad taste, and sometimes he is. But actually I think it's for a greater cause than mere self-aggrandizement. If that were all he were about, he wouldn't be very interesting. Also, he does try to get people to laugh about sex. This is a GOOD thing. Unfortunately lots of people don't like that, because they're so uptight about sex they can't even joke about it, and they -especially- can't joke about (ooooh!) perverted (oooh!) sex. I'm not saying this is what your problem is Aaron, I'm just trying to explain my POV here. He does seem to really like being a rarified taste tho. I think he really relished that nasty NME review of "Hippopotomomus" :). If a wider audience started listening to him I think he'd be mighty bewildered by it. Actually, so would I. >having the audacity to be both. I don't know if I'd like to hang out with >Nick Currie, but he's interesting. I really would. I only got to for a couple minutes, but I think we might have a lot to talk about actually, and I suspect he's probably a clever conversationalist in the right setting. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:32:55 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Doo Wah Diddy Back when I was in elementary school, they used to keep putting 'Doo Wah Diddy' on the Christmas program along with other seasonal things like 'Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer' and 'Frosty the Snowman'. It never struck me until a few days ago how incongruous this was, and I never got around to posting it until now. Is this a purely regional thing, or am I the only one who grew up thinking that that song by Manfred Mann was a holiday classic? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #417 *******************************