From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #410 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 30 1998 Volume 07 : Number 410 Today's Subjects: ----------------- silencing the whiners [Ken Sabatini ] toronto! [woj sven-woj ] Re: silencing the whiners [The Great Quail ] Re: silencing the whiners [Eb ] Re: slipping fish [amadain ] Re: slipping fish [Terrence M Marks ] Re: slipping fish [Tom Clark ] Re: Up with Floyd Coen Hitchcock [Ken Ostrander ] boring anecdote/UAL [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: silencing the whiners [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: silencing the whiners [woj sven-woj ] Re: silencing the whiners [fred is ted ] a recap [fred is ted ] gig listings [MichaelHooker ] This list blows! [Jonathan Demme ] Re: This list blows! [Gary Assassin ] re: This list blows! [Russ Reynolds ] re: This list blows! [The Great Quail ] Tape tree update [Bayard ] mac tech help: scsi jumpers for hard drive???? ["John B. Jones" ] bootleg question [Mike Runion ] Re: slipping fish [amadain ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:17:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Sabatini Subject: silencing the whiners Here's something that I don't understand. I'll try to keep it brief. Every once in a while a feglist member comes out of the woodwork and complains to the list as a whole. Sometimes the complaint is about a particular thread that's going on for too long, other times its about the lack of Robyn content in the last few days of postings, and other times its a direct and itemized list of specific complaints: too many seemingly random and unconnected observations, way-too-long personal narrritives, too much Eb jargon, too little Eb jargon, etc. At times these messages are sincere pleas for the list to change in some way, while at other times they are essential "before I leave, let me tell you why you all suck." The typical response to such postings is something like "if you don't like what's being posted, then just delete it," "switch to the news only list if you don't like it here," "who are you to criticize us?" "keep your complaints to yourself," "start your own topics if you don't like the current ones," and the like. Here's what I don't understand: the essential message in most of these responses is that it is off limits for anyone to make general criticisms about the list's content. But, at the same time it is perfectly fine for people to criticize *this* person's complaints. So the complainer is told that its not appropriate to complain about and attempt to limit list content, while the content of his posts are simultaneously complained about and limited. Sure this explanation is at a 3rd grade level, but ain't it what's happening: john complains about the list content, mary tell him such content complaints are off limits, yet mary's response to john's content complaint is a content complain in itself. Maybe I just don't see the rules. Perhaps general complaints are off limits, but complaints *about* general complaints are acceptable. I guess this post would be a complaint about the way general complaints are subsequently complained about. Ken(no "t" after the "n") PS Last night's Belle & Sebastian show was fantastic. It definitely lived up to all the hype. Catch them if you can, although I think they're only playing a half-dozen shows in the US. That they came to Athens is a huge surprise. Plus they allowed a local band to open for them--a bunch of 19-20 yr old's in a Kindercore band named The Masters of the Hemisphere. Add that to your vitae boys: Opened for Belle & Sebastian, 10/98. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:51 -0500 From: woj sven-woj Subject: toronto! hola fegs and 'philes! in a couple hours, i'm about to jump on a flight to toronto for a fun weekend of computer system upgrades (wheee!). saturday and sunday are going to be shot working, but i should have some time friday evening and, depending on how long i'm there, maybe monday night. anyone have any suggestions for fun on friday? anyone want to meet up and say hi? let me know off-list -- barring laptop disasters, i should be able to check in friday morning and afternoon. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 98 17:18:49 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: silencing the whiners Ken writes a lot of complaining stuff, to which I say: Well, Ken, if you don't like what's being posted, delete it. If there's too much complaining, why don't you switch to the news only list if you don't like it here. I mean, who are you to criticize us? Just keep your complaints to yourself -- or better yet, start your own topics if you don't like the current ones. Sheesh. - --UAL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:31:04 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: silencing the whiners (list meta) >Sure this explanation is at a 3rd grade level, but ain't it what's >happening: john complains about the list content, mary tell him such >content complaints are off limits, yet mary's response to john's content >complaint is a content complain in itself. > >Maybe I just don't see the rules. Perhaps general complaints are off >limits, but complaints *about* general complaints are acceptable. Well, the way I see it is..... (I started typing that and realized I wasn't quite sure, I'm of two minds on it) First mind- I get annoyed by complaints about "non-content" because these posts are in and of themselves non-content. If things aren't interesting, well, this isn't exactly helping. If it serves any purpose other than venting I sure don't know what it is. I also get annoyed when someone says "you guys are boring me, talk about things which interest me, NOW!". As if this one post is going to MAKE everyone change their posting habits- "that'll show em!". I mean, some of these posts are phrased as if they are orders. I know I'm far from being the only Feg with a slightly anti-authoritarian bent, and that I can't be the only one whose hair stands on end when seeing that tone used. I'm also a big advocate of lurking around, listening in, and figuring out how things are done in Rome before you start pointing out to the Romans what you don't like about their city. I often (not all the time) get the impression that people who are complaining haven't done this. People who HAVE generally get much gentler rebukes, you'll notice, as with John Partridge's complaint just recently. It's not at all odd that people are going to be irritated with someone whose first introduction to them constitutes "You guys are boring", and might lash out at same person. If someone introduced themselves to you in real life with that kind of opening line, how would you be inclined to regard them? Second mind- I can see where someone would join this list, thinking it was like many other lists and forums on the net, i.e., kept somewhat strictly to topic. The only other list I'm on that's even close to this digressive/chatty/community-ish is the John Cale list. Most mailing lists pretty much cover only the topic at hand. So I can see some surprise and dismay and it's not at all odd that that would be one reaction. I can also see where someone joins this list not for conversation or to be part of a community, but simply to read Robyn information/discussion, and they're annoyed with what to them is irrelevant garbage. I think sometimes those of us who have been in the community for a long time tend to forget, because it is so familiar to us, that to a new person this place could be intimidatingly cliquish, boring, or totally irrelevant. I understand that better than they might think I do (being as I'm one of the most prolific and offtopic people around, you might not think I would). However, I'm not sure what a churlish toned post about how much we suck is going to accomplish. I still think a more productive approach is- if there's something you want to see, put it out there yourself and see if people take the bait. Otherwise, you might want to consider the fact that the list may not be for you. If you can't adjust to the list as is, that's a problem, because 50 or so people (I'm thinking that's about how many names I see regularly) aren't going to change their habits because 2 or 3 have a beef with 'em. That may sound harsh or snotty, but I'm trying to be realistic here. Would you really EXPECT that everyone was going to just change overnight? There are lots and LOTS of things I'd like to change about the RL community I live in, however, a balance needs to be struck between others needs and one's own. I can't just blithely go about telling everyone how to behave in RL or be like "hey, the train station is too far away from my house, could you pick it up and move it closer?". Why should this be different? It's cyberspace, but it's composed of humans, after all. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:20:11 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I Dream of Fishwoman; UP-LiftENDE NEUmechanimals On 10/29/98 8:03 AM, The Great Quail wrote: >PPS: It's true, by the way. LJ doesn't own any underwear. Didn'y you guys >know she's a nudist? Why do you think she's a work-at-home freelancer? Sounds like a good use for a webcam! Which reminds me, my beta webcam is at http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark/cams/cam1.html I'm moving offices Friday, so it may be down for a while. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:19:31 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Webcams (0 RH) >Sounds like a good use for a webcam! Chicagoans- might want to check out "We're Geniuses In France", on public access channel 19 on Friday nights at 10. I love cable access. The other day I saw people racing snowmobiles on a lake. You'll never see that on UPN. Anyway, this show has a very funny webcam parody, wherein the main guy just sorta sits around on his bed, calls up people he knows to ask for phone sex and is rejected, and does entertaining musical performances with sock puppets. I wor crackin' up! The irony is- yeah, I get the joke but, a real webcam probably isn't even THAT eventful. Love on ya, Susan P.S. Non-Chicagoans can't catch them at all, I'm afraid, but fear not- they have a website at http://miso.wwa.com/~bjh - it's hit or miss and sometimes a bit tasteless, but what's funny is REALLY funny (e.g., "Despair", "Open Letter to Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain"). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:08:46 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: silencing the whiners I'd like to complain about the rash of posts complaining about posts that complain about complaining posts. Thanks, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:34:02 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: slipping fish >I agree with Susan, especially since we had no way of knowing what the >picture would be when we clicked on the url. Well, that was the joke, wunnit? If he'd said "hey guys, there's some pic from alt.binaries.tasteless with a chick and a fish", how many people would have been like "oooh, I have to go see this!"? Probably not that many :). >this kind of garbage brings down the tenor of the group. The guy is >obviously sick but that doesn't mean that we should have to deal with him. Oh, I wouldn't say "obviously sick". He just wanted to play a prank. "This guy is obviously possessed of a pre-adolescent sense of humor" would be how I'd phrase it. I really did read it as a gesture equivalent to "haha fuck you guys! gotcha!". To me at least, it's not about "You are OBSCENE!", it's more about, "Some of us are a little annoyed that you took the liberty of pissing on the living room floor". Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:46:37 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: slipping fish > Oh, I wouldn't say "obviously sick". He just wanted to play a prank. > > "This guy is obviously possessed of a pre-adolescent sense of humor" would > be how I'd phrase it. I really did read it as a gesture equivalent to "haha > fuck you guys! gotcha!". To me at least, it's not about "You are OBSCENE!", > it's more about, "Some of us are a little annoyed that you took the liberty > of pissing on the living room floor". Hmm... we got some guy calling himself "Roger Jackson" going and making himself a ruckus. THen we get some guy calling himself "Paul Fox" going and making himself a slightly bigger ruckus. What say if the list gets mail by "Matt Seligman", "Sara Lee", "Chris Cox", "James A. Smith", "Kimberly Rew" or either James or Otis Fletcher we don't open it? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:58:50 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: slipping fish On 10/29/98 4:34 PM, amadain wrote: >>this kind of garbage brings down the tenor of the group. The guy is >>obviously sick but that doesn't mean that we should have to deal with him. > >Oh, I wouldn't say "obviously sick". He just wanted to play a prank. I think he just wanted to slip us the midnight fish, so to speak. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:17:40 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Up with Floyd Coen Hitchcock >>pppps: Tower wants $17.99 for _Storefront Hitchcock_, the bastids. My >>momma told me, you better shop around. > >Yeah, same as our fucking Tower. in cambridge i had no trouble finding the vinyl at newbury comics. of course, it was twenty clams! i had to have it though. they had at least six copies. >I have yet to see the movie i haven't seen any listings for STOREFRONT in the boston area. what cities is it actually playing in? did i somehow miss it? >And speaking of the new REM ... we'll see. yeah, it's growin' on me bit by bit like a fungus. i had a huge laugh when i saw an ad in a magazine that claimed "at their thunderous best". the storm seems so far away. i put it in the changer last night with WHITECHOCOLATESPACEEGG, IS THIS DESIRE?, THE MISEDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL, & THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP and they sounded great together. it gave me a chance to listen to the individual songs and not get bogged down in the mellow quagmire. ADVENTURES really grabbed me the first time i put it on, as have most of their albums, so being underwelmed was a big suprise. >I will admit that I've moved away from my >teenage infatuation with THE WALL and THE FINAL CUT and more toward the >space noodling of UMMAGUMMA, MEDDLE, and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS. wow, me too. i used to listen to THE WALL religiously but i haven't pulled it out in years. i keep MEDDLE and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS at work. hmmm... >Here's my heretical ranking of Coen feature films: i just can't believe you put MILLER'S CROSSING and FARGO below THE HUDSUCKER PROXY! >I also believe that both Coen Brothers are married to Frances McDormand. i think their next flick is going to be called POLYAMOROUS. ken "burnt out bureacrat" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:50:49 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: boring anecdote/UAL >This is a city where a guy goes into a downtown Walgreen's dressed as Jesus >and carrying a cross and buys a pack of MnMs and people barely give him a >second glance. hm. reminds me of the time I was giving a friend a lift to a fancy dress party, and he suddenly remembered he needed to take some munchies of some kind to it. We were running kinda late, so I was a bit miffed that he wanted us to stop, but he promised he'd only be about 30 seconds. So we stopped outside what appeared to be a fairly busy dairy (um... milk bar? corner store? whatever) and Graeme leapt from the car. Despite the crowd, he was back within seconds... apparently he'd rushed in, said "I'm in a hurry - someone needs me! Quick! Some lemonade and chips!" - threw down the cash on the counter, and leapt out again, leaving the other people inside a little stunned. Oh, did I mention he was dressed as Superman? >> UAL Zey off curse ztant fer zat wannerfool Rabben Eetchcauk zawngg "Ueltra Anbeliffabaule Lerfe" James (oor Zhemze eef yu prifeur) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:00:05 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: silencing the whiners In a message dated 98-10-29 19:14:34 EST, Eb griped: << I'd like to complain about the rash of posts complaining about posts that complain about complaining posts. >> Maybe you oughtta subscribe to fegmaniax-boohoo@smoe.org. It'd be more up your alley, and it's got higher traffic ;-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:18:55 -0500 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: silencing the whiners basically, susan summed up my feelings on this matter -- however verbosely. ;) i just have one twist and one approach to add. the twist: you have to consider the expectations of of long-time subscribers as well as new subscribers. way back when, in days of yore, fegmaniax was a very quiet list. on some days, we were lucky to get a single post at all. i'm sure there are some who were around then who wouldn't mind if the list was like that still. of course, that's unlikely to happen (and that's what fegmaniax-announce was created for), but you shouldn't forget them. the approach: the list info on the website and majordomo is sadly out of date and doesn't really reflect the nature of feg today. i'm going to re-write it, but i seem to remember that sharkboy was (allegedly) working on a listfaq. that would be the ideal place to make sure people know what they are getting into before they join the list. combining the rewritten listinfo with a faq would be the best way to make sure new blood know what's going on. woj n.p. air conditioning p.s. the list is back to unmoderated ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:11:30 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: silencing the whiners - ---Eb wrote: > I'd like to complain about the rash of posts complaining about posts that> complain about complaining posts. "It's about time something was done about it" (16 ton weight is dropped on complainer). Ahh, Monty P :) Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: a recap And now, a blurry 270 feg posts read in a jet-lag haze summary of the past week and a half. Bees, Quails on acid, Liam creaming, burnt CDs, looming censorship, angry Egyptians, and yes, RH content! (Storefront reviews). Thank you and good night. Ted "the melatonin isn't working" "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: MichaelHooker Subject: gig listings hi, im in the NYC area. where can i find the best listings for gigs. wilma.com is pretty crappy, it doesnt even have listings for gigs that i already know about. the village voice.com is ok, but doesnt seem to give them very much in advance. sidewalkNY.com is also ok, but not great. is there a source that is really comprehensive and up to date? maybe a subscription to time out NY? thanks, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:34:05 -0800 From: Jonathan Demme Subject: This list blows! I subscribed to this list to talk about gear! What kind of guitar does Robyn Hitchcock play? I want one. Our their books out they're to teach you how to play one? I love my brand new shiny "Storefront Hitchcock" CD, especially the pictures of scenes from the film. Nice cover. I bet the movie is wonderfully shot. And where does our Robyn get his hair cut? He's just dreeeeeeeeamyyy.... Here's a good picture of him singing "1973": http://ugr8.ucsd.edu/Arthur/Arthur5.jpg What's all this talk about bees and acid and JPEG's and shit? Who's this E flat guy? Moderation is censorship... and socialism is for commie pinko godless freakazoids! Less gab, more talk about Robyn! Ah, forget it. I'm unsubsrikbean, cuz ur a bunch a tools. Fishfuckers! - --JD! (no, I'm not the Walrus) - ----------------------------------------------- Check out "Beloved," now playing at a theatre near you. - ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:22:12 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: This list blows! Wow, I would think that Janathan Demme would know how to spell "Are" and would get a free copy of Storefront Hitchcock, along with remembering how he himself shot the movie. ;) On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Jonathan Demme wrote: > > I subscribed to this list to talk about gear! What kind of guitar does > Robyn Hitchcock play? I want one. Our their books out they're to teach > you how to play one? I love my brand new shiny "Storefront Hitchcock" CD, > especially the pictures of scenes from the film. Nice cover. I bet the > movie is wonderfully shot. And where does our Robyn get his hair cut? > He's just dreeeeeeeeamyyy.... > > Here's a good picture of him singing "1973": > > http://ugr8.ucsd.edu/Arthur/Arthur5.jpg > > What's all this talk about bees and acid and JPEG's and shit? Who's this E > flat guy? > > Moderation is censorship... and socialism is for commie pinko godless > freakazoids! > > Less gab, more talk about Robyn! > > Ah, forget it. I'm unsubsrikbean, cuz ur a bunch a tools. > > Fishfuckers! > > --JD! > > (no, I'm not the Walrus) > > ----------------------------------------------- > Check out "Beloved," now playing at a theatre > near you. > ----------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 98 10:31:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: re: This list blows! >Here's a good picture of him singing "1973": > >http://ugr8.ucsd.edu/Arthur/Arthur5.jpg that's disgusting! Woj, I thought you were going to keep this kind of smut off our list? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 98 14:26:12 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: re: This list blows! >>Here's a good picture of him singing "1973": >> >>http://ugr8.ucsd.edu/Arthur/Arthur5.jpg This kind of bestial nudity -- and "doggie style to boot!" -- is uncalled for. I say, bring back the fish. - --Quail PS: Was that a Chapman Stick I saw somewhere in the background. . . .? +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:58 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Tape tree update It has come to my attention that some people have not been "putting out feelers" (tendrils??) for the Permanent Feg Tape tree. Remember, you can't sit idly by and wait to get emailed about the tree. Branch or Leaf, you should email the people above you and below you in the tree structure. Here is the URL again: http://158.72.105.122/gh/tapetrees.htm Don't say i never gave ya nothin, Rog. (BTW, is that you on "The Fly," or a sequencer?) > but any pink floyd album without syd's imprimatur is considered, uh, > recorda-non-grata around this here list. not a-tall - my favs are meddle and wish you were here. mighty good stuff. they have to be one of my top 3 bands of all time. if they had a great list, i might even listen to them. > IMMEDIATEMENT, i will be forced to tell about the time i > semi-intentionally crapped my pants while > playing atari 2600. which game? =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:15:03 -0800 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: mac tech help: scsi jumpers for hard drive???? I hate to be posting such techno weenie questions here, but like Robyn says, the people that are drawn to his music are most likely people who wear glasses, are intelligent, and work with computers. So, anyway, I was given a hard drive by a friend, and I am trying to install it in my Quadra 840av. The hard drive has served as an external drive for me for quite awhile, but now I want to make it an internal drive. The problem is that the drive came without any documentation, and I can't figure out how to change the scsi id #. In the past, the jumpers have been labeled on the bottom of the drive, but this time there's no labelling anywhere. :::::::::: just ten sets of two pins like you see above, and TWO jumpers. Anyway, I don't dare move them around. I'm sure one jumper is for the scsi id #, and the other controls some functioning of the drive itself. I put it in my Quadra, and it registers as scsi id #2. Which is okay, i guess. It boots up and everything, it just takes awhile each time for the computer to find it. I really would like to set it to scsi id #0 The drive is a Digital brand. scsi probe gives me this info: DEC DSP3105S T384. let me know if you have any suggestions. Technoweenie signing off..... - -jbj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 98 12:44:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: vinyl storefront Bummer...I was hoping one disc would be side 1 & 4 and the other side 2 & 3...you know...so I could use the ol' stacker. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:49:19 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: bootleg question Hey all you RH tape addicts out there (Eddie?), I've got a tape here but have lost the date and venue. I traded for it recently with someone, but of course have forgotten who. It may have come paired with a copy of the 6/26/98 show up in Seattle. Anyway, it's an Egyptians show from the '92 time frame. The set list is as such: Birds in Perspex / Chinese Bones / SYTYIL / Lysander / The Living Years / Vegetation & Dimes / Uncorrected Personality Traits / Oceanside / Airscape / Globe of Frogs // Ultra Unbelievable Love / When I Was Dead / Clean Steve / Glass Hotel / Alright Yeah / The Yip Song / One Long Pair Of Eyes / My Wife And My Dead Wife It's an audience tape. Robyn speaks in a husky Godfatherish voice at the beginning, asking if anyone in the audience is named Kent, and saying hello to anyone wearing spectacles. Lots of piano, especially on side 2. Several tracks are similar to those on Live Death. Lots of audience talk and someone keeps yelling Freebird on the first side. Any help tracking this down would be greatly appreciated. Thanks... Mike - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:50:42 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: slipping fish >What say if the list gets mail by "Matt Seligman", "Sara Lee", "Chris >Cox", "James A. Smith", "Kimberly Rew" or either James or Otis Fletcher we >don't open it? The guy is concentrating on later phases of Robyn's career, seemingly. He can't use Deni, we'd recognize that as a fake cause she has her own email addy and it's not Yahoo. Hmmm.......maybe he'll do an about face into the early phases and pretend to be Chris Hamburger next. In some ways this fake is less scary than others. You're on the Kinks list Terry, so you might remember the person pretending to be Ray Davies and soliciting fan mail? After she was caught she insisted that she was in touch with Ray and still wanted mail to forward on to him. This guy, at least, has pretty transparent, simple motives. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #410 *******************************