From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #407 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 28 1998 Volume 07 : Number 407 Today's Subjects: ----------------- going forward with jesus ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: going forward with jesus [MARKEEFE@aol.com] And Eddie wins... ["Chris!" ] Re: Another feg reading recommendation [JH3 ] onion interview now online ["John B. Jones" ] Re: going forward with jesus [Eb ] Up with Floyd Coen Hitchcock [Miles Goosens ] Re: Storefront Photo plus Tour News ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Storefront Photo plus Tour News [woj sven-woj ] Re: Julian Cope Book [Michael R Godwin ] RH Interview and ...gasp... novel info! [Gary Sedgwick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:46:57 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: going forward with jesus as you all know --because i've been ramming it down your throats every few days-- i've been listening to all my cd's in alphabetical orders. so, i just finished pink floyd. and, yet again, i have utterly failed to discern what is so damned detestable about post-barrett floyd. now, i love PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN a whole hell of a lot, but i still can't rank it any higher than fourth among all pink floyd albums. and, having just finished listening to THE WALL a few hours ago, i still feel ever so confident in choosing it as my second favorite record of all times. but any pink floyd album without syd's imprimatur is considered, uh, recorda-non-grata around this here list. (unless i've been reading things the wrong way.) not to mention that the biggest applause at any robyn concert the last few years is the line, "he's gonna have to be roger now for the rest of his life." i'm thinking of that episode of Springfield Squares where ranier wolfcastle is talking about his next movie: "...i'm horrified to discover that my son is a nerd." kent brockman replies that he's, "laughing already!" and when wolfcastle angrily comments that, "it's *not* a comedy," a noticeably shocked brockman can only elicit a wide-eyed, "oh!" eddie has been purchasing laserdiscs since 1991 --used where possible, though it's not nearly so easy finding what you want used as it is with cd's-- and is NOT EVEN about to switch to another fucking format. besides which, most observers consider laserdisc the superior format, quality-wise acknowledging that there are other factors, convenience and price being perhaps the two most notable.) i've never viewed a dvd, so i couldn't say. at the time i bought my first cd-player, in 1986, i only had about 70 long-players, so it wasn't too traumatic. weird though, to think about it now. it wasn't too terribly long ago that albums were released on vinyl and cassette, and the cd didn't show up until at least six weeks later. the first cd i can remember having been released concurrent with its vinyl and cassette cousins was THIRD STAGE. by the way, negativland wrote a pretty good article for The Baffler (can't remember just which number, but it was the one titled "The Cultural Miracle." hey, the current Baffler --which has admittedly been out for some time-- titled "The Folklore of Capitalism," is superior. one of the best-ever issues of this wonderful periodical, and that's really saying something. interestingly, many places that do not stock, let's say, Z or Multinational Monitor or the like, *do* stock The Baffler) discussing industrys' attempts to force new formats down and/or up our cornholes every few years. for example, lp to 8-track to cassette to cd to minidisc. has the music industry started selling albums by simply charging you to download and burn them yourselves? or is this still a pirate thing? p.s. the last computer i bought was an amiga 500, in the summer of '92, although i am getting fairly close to being ready to buy a new one. but i've been saying that for three years, so, we'll wait-see what the morrowbrings. LISTEN UP, AND LISTEN UP GOOD, YOU MOTHERFUCKING CORNFED HERETIC. if you do not retract this, your latest in an apparently interminable series of blasphemies perpetrated upon the coen family honor, IMMEDIATEMENT, i will be forced to tell about the time i semi-intentionally crapped my pants while playing atari 2600. seriously though, you really don't like Miller's Crossing? this is the movie i've seen more times than any other. 35, give or take. how could you not find the scene at the schmotta kid's funeral, when leo tries to make up with tom, and tom just tells him to humph off, completely devastating? admittedly not quite as devastating as the final scene of Barton Fink, but, if there's one thing you can count on the coens for, it's to *not* fuck up the ending (or, "third act," as i always hear roger ebert saying.) nothing ruins a good movie more, in my opinion, than fucking up the ending (or, "third act," as i always hear roger ebert saying.) see what you've gone and done, lj? you've got me on about the coens again! just when i hadn't posted word one about them for a good four hours! now you're sorry... ha ha, suckers. i had the foresight to order my copies from our very own michael keefe, and he'll be mailing them out tomorrow. uh, right michael? i will note here that as i was dropping off its allotment of this week's eat the state!s to the local tower rekkids, i found them to have stocked ZERO copies of the STOREFRONT *cd*, let alone vinyl, while there was a massive floor display of not only the vinyl and cd versions of UP, but some weird gift-wrapped long-box thing. considering that i, and everyone else in the jam-packed auditorium was completely knocked on our collective ass by the movie, i've been not a little surprised to see so many lukewarm, and even downright hostile reviews of the album here. what gives? did they choose the worst version of each song for the soundtrack, while choosing the best for the theatrical print? (certainly a bit of an interesting concept. how many concert movies have had four different, nearly identical, gigs from which to choose source material?) even if they had, i couldn't imagine it being anything other than stellar. what did you think at the time of recording, lj? were you as blown away as we all were watching the movie. "Like a zoologist being cross-examined by apes." --a witness' descritpion of Bertolt Brecht's testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:26:48 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: going forward with jesus In a message dated 10/27/98 9:02:44 PM, you wrote: <> Here, here! "Dark Side," "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals" are fantastic albums (sorry, "The Wall" depresses the hell out of me)! Hey, I like a psychedelically-tinged pop song as much as the next guy (except for those days when Robyn and I sit together in the cafeteria), but there's more to life. - -----Michael K., who feels us NW Fegs who like 70's Floyd gotta stick together - -- right, everyone? Um . . . everyone? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:59:51 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: And Eddie wins... a dit Mr. Tews... >and, having just finished listening to THE WALL a few hours ago, i >still feel ever so confident in choosing it as my second favorite >record of all times. And for that last one, Eddie wins a trip to the biggest little city in the world where he can not only listen to "The Wall" and other pot-rock classics, but do so while hanging out with my domestic abusing, pot smoking, pregnant-gettin' and crank snorting neighbors. This prize is non-tranferable, non-redemable, and has no cash value. Local, state or federal taxes apply. .chris (who thinks anything after Ummagumma [sp?] is not worth its weight in salt is concerned) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:54:32 -0600 (CST) From: JH3 Subject: Re: Another feg reading recommendation Er... Sorry, I got distracted by work stuff. Susan asked about "Unknown Legends of Rock 'n' Roll": >I have some questions. Is this a relatively recent book? Who's the >publisher and could I get it at say, a neighborhood bookstore or a >hip-type record store, or would I have to order it from Amazon? Is >there a webpage for it somewhere? Lessee, it was published this year by Miller Freeman Books (ISBN 0-87930-534-7). You should be able to find it almost anywhere; I found this one at the Barnes & Noble in fun 'n' fabulous Peoria, Illinois, and if you can find it in Peoria... In fact I went there earlier tonight to see if they had "Storefront Hitchcock" (they did!) and the December Musician magazine which supposedly has an interview with Nick Lowe in it (they didn't!), and they had three more copies of the book, all with their bonus CD's intact. This may or may not be interesting, but there's another book, also printed this year, called "The Secret History of Rock 'n' Roll" by someone named Roni Sarin (sp?). These two books are practically identical. They cover almost all the same artists, including the Young Marble Giants, from essentially the same perspective. And they even mention Robyn Hitchcock in exactly the same sections (the ones about Syd Barrett and Nick Drake, to be specific). But "Secret History" doesn't come with a CD stuck to the back cover, and it never mentions XTC or Andy Partridge at all, so for me the choice was obvious. On the other hand, it does give you more complete discographies, and it includes more artists, especially punk/post-punk acts like Wire, Gang of Four, etc. FWIW. So, two almost-identical books in the same year... I wonder if this is a trend? Maybe someone has decided that obscurity sells. Kind of an oxymoronic concept, but hey, it's the age of the Internet... not much makes sense anymore. >>Scott Walker... >See, I definitely have to get this. He's so damn difficult to get >information on. He only even gives interviews once every millenia. I doubt you'd learn all that much more about Scott Walker from this book, even though he rates one of the larger sections at 8 pages. True to form, he apparently turned down Unterberger's interview requests, so he had to settle for interviewing people who've worked with him. Oh well, that's more than most people manage, I suppose. >Is Momus in this book? I think he ought to be but he may be too >recent for their scope. OTOH he isn't really more recent than >Mr. Newell. Hmmm, indeed, no Momus. But I was a bit surprised to learn that Martin Newell has been releasing homemade cassettes, with an unusual degree of success, since 1980, which is about 12 years before I ever heard of him. Which is as good an excuse as any to mention that I've only recently heard some of the Cleaners From Venus stuff (thanks to a kindly fellow feg) and it's reeeeeallllly good! Definitely worth seeking out, it is. Finally, I'm up to page 326 (of 405) and still no mention of Claudine Longet. I guess she lost any claim to the "obscure" tag after vaulting into the international headlines for pulling the trigger on Spider Sabich? I guess she'll always be known mostly for that one otherwise uncharacteristic incident, just as I'll always be known for... oh, never mind. JH3 PS. The Benign Essential Blepharospasm list has metamorphosed into a web-based bulletin board. If you have a tendency towards blinking and painful facial tics, check out this URL: http://www.blepharospasm.org/~bebrf/wbdemo/wwwboard.shtml Please don't tell them I sent you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:37:12 -0800 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: onion interview now online http://avclub.theonion.com/index.html i promise, no dirty pictures at this url. - -jbj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:36:31 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: going forward with jesus Eddie: > > >i'm thinking of that episode of Springfield Squares where ranier >wolfcastle is talking about his next movie: "...i'm horrified to >discover that my son is a nerd." kent brockman replies that he's, >"laughing already!" and when wolfcastle angrily comments that, "it's >*not* a comedy," a noticeably shocked brockman can only elicit a >wide-eyed, "oh!" OK, that's the SECOND private email of mine which has been answered publicly today. You know, I DO avoid posting to the list where I can. Check those headers more closely, people. ;) >LISTEN UP, AND LISTEN UP GOOD, YOU MOTHERFUCKING CORNFED HERETIC. if >you do not retract this, your latest in an apparently interminable >series of blasphemies perpetrated upon the coen family honor, I don't recall any other "blasphemies." Did I post my "actors as chess pieces" metaphor at one time or another? ;) >seriously though, you really don't like Miller's Crossing? this is the >movie i've seen more times than any other. 35, give or take. I liked it, but it wasn't a major event for me. "Oh neat, yet another well-made movie about gangsters." Didn't break any new ground for me. And it's nothing, compared to, say, GoodFellas or the first two Godfather films. Random nod: "Sports Night" is the only good new show of this television season (that I've seen, anyway). Oh, and speaking of couch potatoism, a central plot point of tonight's "Mad About You" was a character dying of...A BEE STING. Ooooooooooooh. Gilmour, are you behind this? Eb np: Einsturzende Neubauten/Ende Neu (so-so) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:07:47 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Up with Floyd Coen Hitchcock My comments about STOREFRONT happen to be at the end, if you just want to skip all this and head straight for the Robyn Content. :-) Chris Gross fumes: >pppps: Tower wants $17.99 for _Storefront Hitchcock_, the bastids. My >momma told me, you better shop around. Yeah, same as our fucking Tower. Unfortunately for us Nashvillians, Tower is the only store in town that gives a damn about having stuff on the first day, and having it out promptly when the store opens. I was gonna buy REM's UP and STOREFRONT at Media Play instead, but when I went there at lunch, they hadn't gotten their only copy of STOREFRONT off of the truck. When I came back after work, they had sold it to someone else (I suspect Gary Parker!) even though I had told them to hold it for me! I ended up buying STOREFRONT Blockbuster for $1 more than I would have spent at Media Play, but I was pissed. And I sure wasn't paying Tower that ransom, and I wasn't gonna wait till Friday to see if Media Play got another one. (Special to Mike Runion -- the Peter Murphy EP is indeed out. I bought one tonight.) Hal growls: >On another note, I special ordered the vinyl >Storefront from two (count 'em two!) vinyl specialty shops >here in Denver and both came up empty. Both places had multiple >copies of the new R.E.M. on vinyl though. Grrr.... I share your frustration. Mine is on order from Tower, though they didn't have vinyl copies of UP today either. Bummer that vinyl specialists should fail you though! Nevertheless, I don't think it should surprise anyone that retailers would have vinyl copies of UP but not STOREFRONT -- after all, no matter how "poorly" NEW ADVENTURES IN HI-FI sold or what you think of REM, NEW ADVENTURES sold at least ten times as many copies as MOSS ELIXIR. If I were a retailer, I'd stock the new ones in the same proportions. And speaking of the new REM (apologies to those of you on Loud-Fans who have already seen me say just about the same thing)... First listens are no guide to future enjoyment, at least in my experience, but here goes: After reading the (very positive) ROLLING STONE review of UP, I was concerned that the album might actually contain "thirteen ballads" just as the reviewer said. After taking off the shrinkwrap and enjoying the heck out of the first four or five songs, I was thinking "what kind of drugs was the reviewer on? This thing's got lots of different feels and cool sounds!" But then the next thing I knew, I saw the readout of the player flash "10" and realized that my mind had completely wandered during a sequence of (you guessed it) umpteen ballads in a row. I perked back up for "Daysleeper" through the end of the album, but I'm fearful that we've got another DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME on our hands. Learn from Billy Bragg's mistake: if you string four or five or six midtempo songs together, your album becomes a snoozearama, no matter how good the individual ballads are. I'm not declaring UP a snoozearama yet. Official opinions can be delivered only after three plays, if then. And I'm midway through play #2. "The Apologist" is working better this time... we'll see. Eddie Tews sez: >as you all know --because i've been ramming it down your throats every >few days-- i've been listening to all my cd's in alphabetical orders. >so, i just finished pink floyd. and, yet again, i have utterly failed >to discern what is so damned detestable about post-barrett floyd. I think it's just my WV background showing again (too many hours hanging out with the stoners in the boys' room playing AC/DC on the 8-track!), but I like Floyd in all its stages, I like Zeppelin, I like AC/DC. Maybe I'll outgrow Floyd as I head toward 40, but instead I seem to be liking them even better than I used to. I will admit that I've moved away from my teenage infatuation with THE WALL and THE FINAL CUT and more toward the space noodling of UMMAGUMMA, MEDDLE, and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS. >seriously though, you really don't like Miller's Crossing? this is the >movie i've seen more times than any other. 35, give or take. how could >you not find the scene at the schmotta kid's funeral, when leo tries to >make up with tom, and tom just tells him to humph off, completely >devastating? admittedly not quite as devastating as the final scene of >Barton Fink, but, if there's one thing you can count on the coens for, >it's to *not* fuck up the ending (or, "third act," as i always hear >roger ebert saying.) As the list's second-biggest Coen fanatic, I... well... had more of an Ebbish reaction to MILLER'S CROSSING. Maybe because it's the Coen Bros. movie that's least like a Coen Bros. movie, I dunno. But despite its terrific acting, directing, etc. (and its central message, which I read as "just shoot the damn guy!"), I never have warmed up to it. I like my Coens in all-out digressive full force. Here's my heretical ranking of Coen feature films: Bugfuck Weird Masterpieces 1) RAISING ARIZONA 2) THE BIG LEBOWSKI Truly Excellent Runners-Up 3) BLOOD SIMPLE 4) THE HUDSUCKER PROXY (very very underrated IMO) Better Than 99% of Hollywood Crap, Still Worth Four Out of Five Stars, But Underachieving Compared To the Rest of the Coen Oeuvre 5) BARTON FINK 6) MILLER'S CROSSING 7) FARGO I also believe that both Coen Brothers are married to Frances McDormand. >considering that i, and everyone else in the jam-packed auditorium was >completely knocked on our collective ass by the movie, i've been not a >little surprised to see so many lukewarm, and even downright hostile >reviews of the album here. what gives? I have yet to see the movie (though I'm hopeful that someone will run it here), but I think that we keep forgetting that there are plenty of preexisting Robyn fans who are *not* on Fegmaniax, and who *have not* heard all these songs on seventeen different live tapes. Many of them may not have even seen a Robyn show. If I hadn't moved from southern West Virginia to Nashville, it's not friggin' likely that I would have ever seen one, so I would have been damn grateful to have the STOREFRONT soundtrack. I think all of us on FEGMANIAX have heard tapes with even better performances of these songs, or spoken-word bits of which we're more fond, so we tend to nitpick. This blinds us to the fact that STOREFRONT is hardly a SONG REMAINS THE SAME-like embarrassment. If the CD is a reliable guide, I think STOREFRONT will thrill fans as well as curious non-fans.* later, Miles *"Curious non-fans" being the kind of people who'd read a review of STOREFRONT and think "this might be my kind of thing!" Think of how many of us first heard of Robyn through reviews of his albums; the film will almost certainly get scads more press than even GLOBE OF FROGS or PERSPEX ISLAND. I'm not predicting millions of new fans, but thousands seems hardly out of the question. ================================================== Miles Goosens R. Stevie Moore website, now with sound! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal page, all silent all the time: http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles Join the Wire Mailing List: http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/wire ================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:25:05 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Storefront Photo plus Tour News am i the only one whose first thought upon seeing this was, "huh. i wasn't *trying* to access the starr report."? ok, ok... i just feel like, we're all adults here. we're all perfectly capable of *individually* deleting that material which we find offensive and/or not worth our time; be it improperly threadcoded posts, grateful dead flamewars, the ignorant ravings of right-wing dimbulbs, gratuitous links to fishporn, or what have you. "paul fox" and "roger jackson" are obviously the same person. (gee, i wonder whose name he'll purloin next week? jim melton? ian penman? peter holsapple? the possibilities are endless, and the suspense is *killing* me!) and it's just as clear that his raison d'etre here is simply to see just how riled up and righteously indignant he can cause us to become. well you know, i'm sure that it takes him a lot longer to each week set up a new account, think of something suitably flammable, type same in and send it out, than it does for us to delete and move on. and, if we do simply IGNORE it, he'll soon enough decide that it's not worth *his* time and effort, and *he'll* move on. (on the other hand, last week's posts spurred a lot of *interesting* and *thoughtful* reactions. (you could say the same of "robyn the spaz?") maybe not what *he* was hoping for, but i for one found it well worth *my* time. besides which, i thought the salutation, "greetings drones," was very funny. the fact that this would be the last group of people that you'd ever expect to hear labeled, "drones," made me chortle all the merrier.) so yeah, i guess i'm saying that i'd feel more comfortable were the list not moderated. (but if that pecker even *dreams* of dragging captain sensible's name through the mud, he's a-gonna find an oaken rowing oar planted up his asshole right quick!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:02:48 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Re: Catfight Sue wrote >We have got forensics teams in Chicago, you know :). Frankly I think >it's a bit suspect that YOU want the party box AND know the condition of Quail's jocks. What goes on? No mystery. But you have forced me to break cove. Naturally , we at FOF have thought it expedient to put the Great Quail under covert surveillance. I don't want to let the quail out of the bag, but we DO have our spies out and that's how we know the state of his nether garments. In fact we had a cam of our own under there and then bloody Eb had to choose the same spot . So we have had to move it elsewhere. But never fear, it is secreted somewhere where the Quail will NEVER find it . We understand that you are quite advanced in Chicago and even have electricity on occasions , so I'm sure your forensic bods could manage to delve into the innards of the box and ferret out any Eb strains that linger within, but would your people have sufficient security clearance and have sworn loyalty oaths to protect all Fegs against the forces of the Anti Quail AND Vinnie ?. I doubt it. Of course , I wouldn't *mind* having a look at the party box, but to think that I would dream up this entire ferago just so I could get my clutches on it is ludicrous. I'm surprised at your Sue. perish the thought. Nothing was further from my mind........ dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:50:32 -0500 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: Storefront Photo plus Tour News also sprach Capitalism Blows (etews@hotmail.com): >i just feel like, we're all adults here. we're all perfectly capable of >*individually* deleting that material which we find offensive and/or not >worth our time; be it improperly threadcoded posts, grateful dead >flamewars, the ignorant ravings of right-wing dimbulbs, gratuitous links >to fishporn, or what have you. i don't disagree with you, but i feel that there are some things, whether we are all adults or not (a questionable theory, knowing the quail), that don't really need to find a conduit for free speech on fegmaniax. >so yeah, i guess i'm saying that i'd feel more comfortable were the list >not moderated. fret not, fair eddie, the list should be back to unmoderated tonight. i have a couple ideas for a bozo filter that i want to implement before switching it back. i just don't have time to take care of this right now. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:57:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Julian Cope Book > Mike G. joyously ended a post with: > > PS Julian Cope has a new book out on megalithic sites. On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Mike Runion wrote: > For those that care, it's a hardcover, 430 page epic of essays on > megalithic sites around the UK; over half the book is devoted to a full > color gazatteer of individual sites that Julian has visited and studied, > along with photos. I guess it's being marketed over in Britain as a > major historical/archaelogical work. What's the dirt in the street over > there, Mike? I've seen at least two substantial reviews in the broadsheet newspapers. Quite respectful in a slightly patronising "good effort for a hippie" way. I was slightly worried about the fact that in one review it appeared that JC was deliberately confusing the god Lugh, bringer of light, with the verb "to lug" in the context of lugging big stones about, but I suppose you are bound to get that sort of thing in speculative archaeology. However, JC has obviously done a lot of legwork and measurement, so it should be worth buying for the facts alone. - - Mike G. PS My favourite barmy archaeology books are T C Lethbridge's amazing account of excavating white hill-figures (he certainly believes what he's doing even if no-one else does) and, a little further out, Guy Underwood's "The pattern of the past". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:15:22 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: RH Interview and ...gasp... novel info! http://avclub.theonion.com/index.html Gary, back in London now PS Storefront Hitchcock is scheduled on Tuesday Nov 10th, 6.15pm at the London film festival - see http://www.lff.org.uk/ for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:46:38 -0500 From: "Scott (Ferris) Thomas" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V7 #405 > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:32:42 -0800 (PST) > From: griffith > Subject: Halloween Sessions @ West 54th > > The man clad in black and sometime RH influence > That would be Johnny Cash? Still striving for blissful distraction - -ferris. np: Belle & Sebastian...still. __________________ F. S. Thomas programmer FUNNYBONE Interactive fthomas@cendantsoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:48:06 -0600 From: edoxtato@ssax.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #406 Eb said: >It was very relevant, because you were positively *fuming* about the >rockstar posturing of the Gallaghers. And your beloved Jarvis is guilty of >the same. And the problem with "rockstar posturing" is...? I can't see the problem. - -Doc n.p. Robyn Hitchcock, "I Often Dream Of Trains" (Rhino re-issue) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:27:07 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: going forward with jesus sorry eb! you're right, i had just assumed that was a post. i get lazy more often than i have any right to, eh capuch'n? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #407 *******************************