From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #393 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 19 1998 Volume 07 : Number 393 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: More Meat [Danielle ] none administered ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: et al [Eb ] Re: More Power [amadain ] Re: More Power [Mike Runion ] Pete's love [Gregory Stuart Shell ] "Twinkle twinkle little bat. . . ." [The Great Quail ] [Eb ] Re: "Twinkle twinkle little bat. . . ." [Terrence M Marks ] This List Sucks! [roger jackson ] Storefront photo on CDNow [Tom Clark ] Live @ Cambridge (for RJ) [hal brandt ] Re: This List Sucks! [Tom Clark ] Re: Storefront photo on CDNow [Tom Clark ] ...eats schoolmarms for fucking breakfast [Eb ] Re: Storefront photo on CDNow [Eb ] Ice Ice Baby [hal brandt ] Re: This List Sucks! [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: More Meat Mr Godwin (for some reason you demand more respect than the rest of this rabble): > PS I always associate Meatloaf with Rocky Horror rather than Hair, but > maybe he was in both; can't have been a pretty sight... Actually, you know, he looked pretty OK in the Spice Girls movie. Better than Elvis Costello. And there's something which tickles me no end about him being their bus driver... rrrrreeeespect to him for taking *that* part. Dolph, I am deeply flattered by your proposal of marriage. May I think about it and get back to you? What's cool is, our names would be alliterative... ;) Danielle, who has even played the Spice Girls Playstation game, and is hating writing about the expansionist imperial policies of Jacksonian American more than words can say _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:04:00 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: none administered i was looking through The Golden Prince, trying to mine out some reviews for possible inclusion on the giglist, when i came upon an article written by ian storey in, it looks like, early '86. "regarding 'new' recordings, there are a plethora of vinyl delights in store which are due for release over the coming months both in the UK and the USA too. to make things as comprehensible as possible we'll take these albums one by one:" ok, then the first one was INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK. no big deal. now, here's the second one: MAUREEN AND THE MEATPACKERS this album contains pre-soft boys material which was recorded in 1976 at spaceward studios (later used by the boys themselves). maureen and the meatpackers didn't actually exist as a live performing unit although the matieral on the album was based on robyn's prior folk club/cabaret act which also involved two young ladies called ros and anst and a guy called paul who played guitar and sang. in order to undertake the meatpackers project further personnel were necessary and robyn obtained ther services of "a jazz drummer called hugh stacy, a bass player we used to call 'the tide of filth'" who's a lawyer now and another guitarist called hank. robyn parroted one of the meatpackers numbers, The Unpleasant Stain, during the solo set mentioned earlier. instrumentation on the album is acoustic guitars, bass and drums and the material "isn't nearly as paranoid as it became a couple of years later" (with the soft boys.) well, i *had* read this before, couple years back, whenever it was. but this either didn't register on me at the time, or i missed it somehow, or whatever. anybody know *anything* about this? was it ever actually released? i've never seen it on any discographies. the hamilton disco. lists Zip Zip, in the robyn guest appearances section, and spiffing's disco. - --which is just an adaptation of hamilton's-- lists Zip Zip as an album, though i'm sure this is a mistake. russ? partridge? bayard? what's the story? then the next thing listed is "1st soft boys sessions," which looks like stuff that eventually came out on 1976-1981, but i'm not aware of this having been released anywhere else, either. (the first tracks on disc one, the stuff recorded in robyn's living room.) "to put it in a sentence: bob dylan showed me what i wanted to do, and syd barrett showed me how i could do it. but having said that, i wouldn't want to be in either of their shoes today." --robyn, 1995 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:09:25 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: et al Stephen (one of the first folks after me to post raves about NMH, if memory serves): >Art is subjective, Case in point---one of my friends who is also a musician >(and doesn't write many love songs) has gone (at my prompting) to see a few >of Robyn's shows with me. He thinks R.H. is interesting enough and not that >bad....but in his opinion, Robyn's song forms "lack structure" and his >lyrics are "emotionally flat". "Emotionally flat"? What was that again? What? What? ;) >Van Morrison (bleh...IMHO). Hrmmm. Rich: >I think the expression Power Ballad only came into being during >the big hair heyday of the late 80's when groups like Poison >sang things like Every Rose Has a Thorn. It required a >certain kind of real sappy metal-guitar solo. I saw a recent PBS documentary on the Carpenters, which claimed that *Richard Carpenter* invented the power ballad when he asked a session guitarist to record a "heavy" solo for "Goodbye to Love." Huh. I guess that I can't post any strong argument to dispute this.... Mike: >I thought 'Behind Blue Eyes' was the last >decent song that Townshend wrote - can't stand things like 'Teenage >Wasteland' and 'Won't Get Fooled Again' (sorry James) for precisely the >reason that they sound to me like phoney power ballads. Are you really going to claim that Quadrophenia doesn't contain any "decent" songs? (Hell, I thought Townshend wrote a few good songs as late as the Face Dances era....) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:23:07 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: More Power >Did you cats see the TV adaptation of David Lodge's "Nice Work"? Or read >the book? In the TV show, it was 'Power of Love' that the businessman >(Warren Clarke) In the book it was this song by Jennifer Rush that he really liked, I can't remember the title but it goes something like..."'Cause I'm your laaaady/And you are my maaaaaaan". I loved that book! Haven't seen the TV version. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:18:20 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: More Power Mike G. wrote: > > Did you cats see the TV adaptation of David Lodge's "Nice Work"? Or read > the book? In the TV show, it was 'Power of Love' that the businessman > (Warren Clarke) was always playing, but in the book I think it was > something different. Very moving and funny attempt to get inside the > personality of someone who actually likes that stuff. Reminds me of Bret Easton Ellis' "American Psycho". Amidst graphic depictions of really horrible acts, the main character found time to write a whole shining critical treatise on the complete works of Huey Lewis and The News, one of his all time favorite groups. Hysterical. Mike - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:34:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Pete's love > Rich: > >I think the expression Power Ballad only came into being during > >the big hair heyday of the late 80's when groups like Poison > >sang things like Every Rose Has a Thorn. It required a > >certain kind of real sappy metal-guitar solo. 'Poison' is just a really sappy ass group all together. When I think about any of their recordings, power, expression and ballad are not exactly popping up in my head as words I could use to describe those sappy ass "songs". But I can say that terms like sloppy, soupy, emotionless, powerless, balladless, worthless etc.., do come to mind. > Mike: > >I thought 'Behind Blue Eyes' was the last > >decent song that Townshend wrote - can't stand things like 'Teenage I guess that is the most recent song by Pete you have heard. Listen to "The Shout" and I bet you will change your mind. It was recorded during a single evening in 1984 with a Portastudio 224, using Roland Drumtix,a Martin guitar, a Gibson bass and a piano. Regards, Gregory S. Shell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 15:58:48 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: "Twinkle twinkle little bat. . . ." Jon "Lost in Taiwan" Fetter writes, > According to FZ, whenever a thermometer would break in the Zappa >home, Mr. Zappa would give the mercury to the young Frank to play with. He >considered that to be the only chemical influence in his life. Yes, I read that too -- Frank claimed he had many dust-fuzzy balls of mercury constantly rolling around under his bed. For those of you not in the know, mercury vapour causes dain bramage, affecting the CNS and giving people nervous tics and twitches, stutterings, and general symptoms of "madness." This was the origin of the phrase "mad as a hatter," as Victorian-era haberdashers used mercury fulminate in the pressing of felt, breathing in Hg vapours all day long, la la la. . . . I can't really say what the White Rabbit was on, though. . . . . - --The Dorquail np: Bayard's amazing "Madonna of the B-sides." Ahh, the Shenandoah Valley . . . . the frogs . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:25:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: none administered On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > MAUREEN AND THE MEATPACKERS > this album contains pre-soft boys material which was recorded in 1976 at > spaceward studios (later used by the boys themselves). maureen and the > meatpackers didn't actually exist as a live performing unit although the > matieral on the album was based on robyn's prior folk club/cabaret act > which also involved two young ladies called ros and anst and a guy > called paul who played guitar and sang. in order to undertake the > meatpackers project further personnel were necessary and robyn obtained > ther services of "a jazz drummer called hugh stacy, a bass player we > used to call 'the tide of filth'" who's a lawyer now and another > guitarist called hank. robyn parroted one of the meatpackers numbers, > The Unpleasant Stain, during the solo set mentioned earlier. > instrumentation on the album is acoustic guitars, bass and drums and the > material "isn't nearly as paranoid as it became a couple of years later" > (with the soft boys.) All I know is, its release was blocked by Rosalyn Kunath ("Ros" above) ... and I'd like to hear it. Aidan Merritt no doubt knows more... Aidan? "honey don't you panic when you're feeling organic" =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:52:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: My computer may be on the verge of crashing again. Is there some reason why adding a new RAM memory card (as of about a week ago, I'm at 40 mB instead of 16 mB) would result in Norton Utilities *destroying* system software instead of maintaining it??? It seems like "optimizing" with the Speed Disk now equals "hacking tiny chunks out of the operating system." :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: "Twinkle twinkle little bat. . . ." > Yes, I read that too -- Frank claimed he had many dust-fuzzy balls of > mercury constantly rolling around under his bed. For those of you not in > the know, mercury vapour causes dain bramage, affecting the CNS and > giving people nervous tics and twitches, stutterings, and general > symptoms of "madness." This was the origin of the phrase "mad as a > hatter," as Victorian-era haberdashers used mercury fulminate in the > pressing of felt, breathing in Hg vapours all day long, la la la. . . . The way I heard it, the etymology of Lewis Carrol's "mad hatter" was a corruption of "mad as an adder" (that's "mad" as in "venemous" or "harmful"). Of course, this was probably from the source that told me that pure mercury was mostly harmless, that mercury compounds were the real carcinogens. Unrelatedly, I'd like to say a few things in defense of alcohol. It's a cheap, low-tech antibiotic. Alcohol was essential to European city-building, and generally helped keep the plagues down to a resonable level and let cities grow beyond a few thousand without extensive sanitary engineering. I'm not too fond of it (or other substances) myself, though. And was Steve Martin on drugs or not? On "Let's Get Small" he repeatedly claims that he is and isn't on drugs, which leads me to wonder. Terrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: So You Think You're In Love? Sing Louder! I'm going with Plumb on this one. I'd always understood the term "power ballad" to refer to one of those pseudo-romantic abortions done by a metal band--hence, the "power." Kiss' "Beth" being a prototype. The whole genre rapidly went to the Wagnerian extremes--something I hate about the Mega-Ballad genre. They're the aural equivalent of a couple making out in public. Great, so you're in love--making a spectacle of it is less than edifying for others. As I recall, metal PBs became big in the late 80's, as part of the MTV-hair band hegemony--yep, Poison was one of the culprits, along with Whitesnake, Crue, DefLep, et.al. (ooh, gotta stop, getting queasy). Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "Twinkle twinkle little bat. . . ." On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > The way I heard it, the etymology of Lewis Carrol's "mad hatter" was a > corruption of "mad as an adder" (that's "mad" as in "venemous" or > "harmful"). > Of course, this was probably from the source that told me that pure > mercury was mostly harmless, that mercury compounds were the real > carcinogens. Um... if you're playing with Mercury, cancer should be one of your last concerns. The brain-rot comes first. And yeah, mad as a hatter. Both felt and fur were treated with mercury way back when (it was a big problem in colonial America as well). Haberdashers went loopy on a regular basis. And by something of a coincidence, I have Martin Gardner's The Annotated Alice on my desk at work here and will cite for you as follows: There is a good reason to believe that Tenniel [the most famous Alice illustrator, responsible for the images we all know and recognise of the long-blonde Alice and the Hatter with a big hat and nose-- J.] adopted a suggestion of Carroll's that he draw the Hatter to resemble one Theophilus Carter, a furniture dealer near Oxford (and no grounds whatever for the widespread belief at the time that the Hatter was a burlesque of Prime Minister Gladstone). Carter was known in the area as the Mad Hatter, partly because of his eccentric ideas. His invention of an "alarm clock bed" that woke the sleeper by tossing him out on the floor (it was exhibited at the Crystal Palace in 1851) may help explain why Carroll's Hatter is so concerned with time as well as with arousing a sleepy dormouse. One notes also that items of furniture -- table, armchair, writing desk -- are prominent in this epsiode. I'm kind of an Alice freak. Don't beat me up. It's a mathematician thing. > Unrelatedly, I'd like to say a few things in defense of alcohol. > It's a cheap, low-tech antibiotic. Alcohol was essential to European > city-building, and generally helped keep the plagues down to a resonable > level and let cities grow beyond a few thousand without extensive sanitary > engineering. I'm not too fond of it (or other substances) myself, though. It might be interesting to note also that the reason for the spread of disease and plague in Europe is largely due to the the Christian habit of burrying the dead in churchyards in the heart of town. Before the Christian invasion of Europe, the dead were taken far from the city proper and burried away from the water supply and daily activity. Christianity was essential to the spread of the black death and European city destruction. I'm not too fond if it (or other religions) myself, though. > And was Steve Martin on drugs or not? On "Let's Get Small" he repeatedly > claims that he is and isn't on drugs, which leads me to wonder. Steve Martin was most assuredly doing a bit of cocaine and, if I recall, some pills of sorts. Probably uppers and downers typical of showbiz in the seventies and early eighties. However, he's a fucking genius without them as can be seen in his recent playwriting. I'm sure my neighbor Jill knows, as she is the world's largest Steve Martin freak and a truly wonderful human being. If it's always six o'clock, I never have to be at work. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: roger jackson Subject: This List Sucks! Greetings Fegmaniax, I have lurked on this list, on and off, for several years and just can't take it anymore. I regularly contribute to similar lists concerning Led Zeppelin, Roy Harper, and Julian Cope. These lists are vibrant, for the most part, and full of practical info and possibilities for the serious and casual fan alike. This list, however, is miserable. Posts about trees, trades, or anything even remotely related to Robyn are rare. Instead, we get personal anecdotes, incidental remarks, and just plain foolishness. Perhaps this is exacerbated by the "wackiness" of Robyn himself. Please, people, it is pathetic to fill the list with your surrealistic insipidities. It's barely tolerable from Hitchcock himself at this point in his career, let alone a bunch of stoned students. In the past few weeks, I haven't seen anything substantial about the Cambridge disc, very little on Storefront Hitchcock, and nothing in the way of possible treed material. I have, however, seen stuff on Zappa, aging, and whatever movie various members thought was cool that day. Give me a break. I know there are others who feel this same way. Maybe a new list devoted to substantial info concerning Robyn needs to be started. On the Roy Harper list, if there isn't anything to talk about, then nothing is sent. On our list, people feel the obligation to send their mental fluff at all times regardless of pertinence, and it is immediately deleted by one and all. I've participated in tons of trades through the Zeppelin list. Learn from these other lists or change, but please stop wasting my time. roger jackson _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:44:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Storefront photo on CDNow cdnow.com recently added the Storefront CD (the vinyl's been up there for a while). The CD listing includes a snapshot of the cover for those so interested. (Warning: Long rant ahead containing unimportant details of my personal hell, ...er, life) RE: Power Ballads/Elton John/Celine Dion/Tori Amos/Frank Zappa Driving home from work Friday night, I switched on Russ' station and they were playing "Your Song" (I think that's what it's called) by Elton John. I was helpless to change the station, so I had to sing along. By the third verse I was laughing hysterically because a)The song is so insipid, b)I knew all the words and c)I was delirious from watching iMacs boot all day. Anyway, it was fun. When I got hiome I popped a beer and flipped on the tube where the listings said VH1 was showing another installment of "Before They Were Rock Stars" and Frank Zappa was gonna be featured in one of the segments. So I switch to VH1 just in time to catch the end of "Divas Live" where Aretha and Celine are belting out this gospel number only dogs and anal retentives could tolerate. Luckily it ended before I could get the gun loaded and pointed at my temple... Surviving this, I waded through bios of Tiffany, John Travolta, Gloria Estefan and Tori Amos before they showed about 1.5 minutes of Zappa on the Steve Allen show where he plays a bicycle and gets insulted by the host. Smeday I'd like to see all of this segment. Getting back to Tori - I'd like to ask a question of those who consider themselves fans. From her bio, it looks like she grew up very talente,,d musically and as an actor. She bounced around from commercials to soaps to her 80's bighair band, and then fell into the c ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:09:09 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Live @ Cambridge (for RJ) roger jackson wrote: > I haven't seen anything substantial about the > Cambridge disc That's because the disc isn't substantial. I, too, wish I had heard more details before I purchased the damn thing, what with it's $20.99 import price tag for 34 mins. of mostly mediocre live music and out-of-order track listings. RobynH seemingly sanctioning this tripe with his liner notes makes it all the worse. The Mrs. Wafflehead tapes were far superior and cheaper, too. The Kershaw Sessions at least filled up the playing time on the disc. C'mon, Robyn, don't start issuing shoddy stuff like this...I expect more. You could've at least drawn a cover or something. > please stop wasting my time. Oops, too late. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:06:44 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: This List Sucks! On 10/19/98 5:43 PM, roger jackson wrote: >roger jackson So does your keyboard playing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:05:34 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Storefront photo on CDNow On 10/19/98 5:44 PM, Tom Clark wrote: >She bounced around from commercials to soaps >to her 80's bighair band, and then fell into the alterna-chick that she is now. So, does this taint her in your eyes? It kinda reminds me of the Vanilla Ice "Now I'll do reggae and see if that works" syndrome. Ob Robyn: He's had his career transformations, but how would we feel about him if we knew that once he was on an Australian soap opera? screw you guys, i'm going home. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:17:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: ...eats schoolmarms for fucking breakfast Roger: >This list, however, is miserable. Posts about trees, trades, or >anything even remotely related to Robyn are rare. Instead, we get >personal anecdotes, incidental remarks, and just plain foolishness. In other words, you're here to trade bootlegs. OK, but maybe that isn't such a top priority with other Fegs. Deal. >Maybe a new list devoted to substantial info concerning >Robyn needs to be started. There is one, dummy. Join feg-announce, and you'll get nothing but the bonedry collector weenieism you crave. >On our list, people >feel the obligation to send their mental fluff at all times regardless >of pertinence, and it is immediately deleted by one and all. Boy, talk about presumptious. "One and all"? Sheesh. >Learn from >these other lists or change, but please stop wasting my time. I don't see anyone twisting your arm to stay, bub. Eb PS Uh, maybe there aren't so many posts about Storefront Hitchcock because most people haven't heard the album yet? Could be, could be. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:20:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Storefront photo on CDNow Clark: >Getting back to Tori - I'd like to ask a question of those who consider >themselves fans. From her bio, it looks like she grew up very talente,,d >musically and as an actor. She bounced around from commercials to soaps >to her 80's bighair band, and then fell into the c I'm just DYING to know how this sentence would've ended, had the message not been unduly cut off.... crevice? compacter? crapper? clutches of the Great Quail? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:34:51 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Ice Ice Baby Tom Clark wrote: > It > kinda reminds me of the Vanilla Ice "Now I'll do reggae and see if that > works" syndrome. I just got a free sampler cassette of Vanilla Ice's new 'song'. It's called "Fuck Me" (no foolin'!) and it's really sad. A whole lot of Ice SCREAMING "Fuck you!" to his critics. Only in America. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:33:46 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: This List Sucks! At 05:43 PM 10/19/98 -0700, roger jackson wrote: >I have lurked on this list, on and off, for several years and just >can't take it anymore. I regularly contribute to similar lists >concerning Led Zeppelin, Roy Harper, and Julian Cope. These lists are >vibrant, for the most part, and full of practical info and >possibilities for the serious and casual fan alike. You know, I needed a good laugh today, and what ho, I got one! The very idea that For Badgeholders Only (the Zep list) is "vibrant... and full of practical info and possibilities" made me laugh out loud! >This list, however, is miserable. Posts about trees, trades, or >anything even remotely related to Robyn are rare. Instead, we get >personal anecdotes, incidental remarks, and just plain foolishness. Hm, things that all are characteristic of a community of friends, not just a couple o' hundred strangers comparing boot lists... There's plenty of off-topic stuff, yes, but as I scan the headers from the last few months, I see a substantive discussion about the meaning of "The Yip Song," several lyric threads, lots of posts gearing up for the NYC premiere of STOREFRONT, mention of Soft Boys live material. Seems like Robyn Hitchcock information and discussion today. Regardless, might I make a radical suggestion: If you want to see these kinds of threads, why not start one yourself? As you've noted, people here are talky, and who knows, they might just respond >Please, people, it is pathetic to fill the list with your surrealistic >insipidities. That was my favorite Jefferson Airplane record. >It's barely tolerable from Hitchcock himself at this >point in his career, let alone a bunch of stoned students. In the Yeah, man, it's like an internet mail list -- but on acid! >past few weeks, I haven't seen anything substantial about the >Cambridge disc, very little on Storefront Hitchcock, and nothing in >the way of possible treed material. There's a tree going on right now. Bayard posted about eight billion times about the "permatree," which is now in operation. How long did you say you'd been here again? :-) >Give me a break. I know there are others who feel this >same way. Maybe a new list devoted to substantial info concerning >Robyn needs to be started. As Woj has pointed out more than once, there is a fegmaniax-announce list for news only. And in the past, whenever this list or my other favorite (Loud-Fans, the Game Theory/Loud Family list) have gone through spasms of "should we be this off-topic?" guilt, usually the disgruntled have remained quiet or made a less-than-impressive showing. >On our list, people >feel the obligation to send their mental fluff at all times regardless >of pertinence, and it is immediately deleted by one and all. Speak for yourself. I read every word of Ebbishness, Quailspew, Shark-stew, Dodge-ball, or whatever appellations you want to use. Sometimes I even enjoy it! :-) >I've >participated in tons of trades through the Zeppelin list. Even if that was your sole criteria for determining the worth of a list (it sure sounds like it's a major component), if you had been paying attention, and perhaps not so readily deleting large chunks of list mail, you could have had more than a dozen shows from 1998 alone. >Learn from >these other lists or change, but please stop wasting my time. Unsubscribe instructions are at http://www.fegmania.org/fegmaniax.html. Some useful information for you, I'd warrant? later, Miles ================================================== Miles Goosens R. Stevie Moore website, now with sound! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal page, all silent all the time: http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles Join the Wire Mailing List: http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/wire ================================================== ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #393 *******************************